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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluefete » February 10th, 2022, 11:55 am

timelapse wrote:Lev 18:23“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Do you even bible bro?


I was waiting for him to post the same thing but like he is picking and choosing as well.

Romans 1:

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness ...

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluefete » February 10th, 2022, 12:58 pm

zoom rader wrote:Bible is a book of made up stories for idiots

There is no proof that the bible is real .

Ancient man predates the Bible

https://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-bib ... -evidence/


Actually, much of what is in the Bible is only now starting to be proved by science.

Scientists were stunned to see how quickly the universe expanded after the big bang. I have linked an article from Space.com / January 2022 which tries to explain the early life of the universe. I will then show what Genesis says.

Scientists are actually proving the Creation in Genesis in this article.

https://www.space.com/52-the-expanding- ... today.html

"The universe was born with the Big Bang as an unimaginably hot, dense point. When the universe was just 10-34 of a second or so old — that is, a hundredth of a billionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second in age — it experienced an incredible burst of expansion known as inflation, in which space itself expanded faster than the speed of light.

During this period, the universe doubled in size at least 90 times, going from subatomic-sized to golf-ball-sized almost instantaneously."

For the first 380,000 years or so, the universe was essentially too hot for light to shine, according to France's National Center of Space Research (Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales, or CNES). The heat of creation smashed atoms together with enough force to break them up into a dense plasma, an opaque soup of protons, neutrons and electrons that scattered light like fog.

Roughly 380,000 years after the Big Bang, matter cooled enough for atoms to form during the era of recombination, resulting in a transparent, electrically neutral gas, according to NASA.

This set loose the initial flash of light created during the Big Bang, which is detectable today as cosmic microwave background radiation. However, after this point, the universe was plunged into darkness, since no stars or any other bright objects had formed yet.

About 400 million years after the Big Bang, the universe began to emerge from the cosmic dark ages during the epoch of reionization. During this time, which lasted more than a half-billion years, clumps of gas collapsed enough to form the first stars and galaxies, whose energetic ultraviolet light ionized and destroyed most of the neutral hydrogen.


Look at the chronological order of Genesis as it explains the creation in simple terms.

It was not until the 4th day that God created the stars, sun and moon. The Bible had it all along and it was just for science to prove it.


Genesis

Chapter 1
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.


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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bamfo_dennis » February 10th, 2022, 1:23 pm

lol wut? the bible explain d big bang? "The Bible had it all along and it was just for science to prove it."
u does talk rellllllll sheit dawg lolllllll
y u eh try out in Beijing 2022 for the mental gymnastics ??

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby zoom rader » February 10th, 2022, 1:35 pm

bluefete wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Bible is a book of made up stories for idiots

There is no proof that the bible is real .

Ancient man predates the Bible

https://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-bib ... -evidence/


Actually, much of what is in the Bible is only now starting to be proved by science.

Scientists were stunned to see how quickly the universe expanded after the big bang. I have linked an article from Space.com / January 2022 which tries to explain the early life of the universe. I will then show what Genesis says.

Scientists are actually proving the Creation in Genesis in this article.

https://www.space.com/52-the-expanding- ... today.html

"The universe was born with the Big Bang as an unimaginably hot, dense point. When the universe was just 10-34 of a second or so old — that is, a hundredth of a billionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second in age — it experienced an incredible burst of expansion known as inflation, in which space itself expanded faster than the speed of light.

During this period, the universe doubled in size at least 90 times, going from subatomic-sized to golf-ball-sized almost instantaneously."

For the first 380,000 years or so, the universe was essentially too hot for light to shine, according to France's National Center of Space Research (Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales, or CNES). The heat of creation smashed atoms together with enough force to break them up into a dense plasma, an opaque soup of protons, neutrons and electrons that scattered light like fog.

Roughly 380,000 years after the Big Bang, matter cooled enough for atoms to form during the era of recombination, resulting in a transparent, electrically neutral gas, according to NASA.

This set loose the initial flash of light created during the Big Bang, which is detectable today as cosmic microwave background radiation. However, after this point, the universe was plunged into darkness, since no stars or any other bright objects had formed yet.

About 400 million years after the Big Bang, the universe began to emerge from the cosmic dark ages during the epoch of reionization. During this time, which lasted more than a half-billion years, clumps of gas collapsed enough to form the first stars and galaxies, whose energetic ultraviolet light ionized and destroyed most of the neutral hydrogen.


Look at the chronological order of Genesis as it explains the creation in simple terms.

It was not until the 4th day that God created the stars, sun and moon. The Bible had it all along and it was just for science to prove it.


Genesis

Chapter 1
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Hog wash

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Chimera » February 10th, 2022, 1:38 pm

What's the scene with the Bible and covid.
This is one of the predictions?

Jesus coming this year for sure?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » February 10th, 2022, 3:05 pm

Jesus was coming down in a flying chariot, but akhmed crash into him with a plane

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluefete » February 10th, 2022, 3:51 pm

zoom rader wrote:Hog wash


bamfo_dennis wrote:lol wut? the bible explain d big bang? "The Bible had it all along and it was just for science to prove it."
u does talk rellllllll sheit dawg lolllllll
y u eh try out in Beijing 2022 for the mental gymnastics ??



Matthew 11:25-26 KJV: At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluefete » February 10th, 2022, 4:11 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:What's the scene with the Bible and covid.
This is one of the predictions?


7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?
....

10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.



Jesus coming this year for sure?


Mark 13:

32But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.


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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » February 10th, 2022, 4:31 pm

In other words he doh know and only reposting scripture because parrots don't think

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby timelapse » February 10th, 2022, 7:24 pm

So Nostradamus predicted Corona, So did Dan Brown, Simpsons too ,methinks.But I suppose they don't count because they aren't the bible.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby zoom rader » February 10th, 2022, 9:39 pm

bluefete wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Hog wash


bamfo_dennis wrote:lol wut? the bible explain d big bang? "The Bible had it all along and it was just for science to prove it."
u does talk rellllllll sheit dawg lolllllll
y u eh try out in Beijing 2022 for the mental gymnastics ??



Matthew 11:25-26 KJV: At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
Jesus never existed dude.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluefete » February 11th, 2022, 8:20 am

matr1x wrote:In other words he doh know and only reposting scripture because parrots don't think


It seems the scriptures are posing a challenge to you.

timelapse wrote:So Nostradamus predicted Corona, So did Dan Brown, Simpsons too ,me thinks. But I suppose they don't count because they aren't the bible.


People expect God to give names, dates and times. If not, He does not exist.

zoom rader wrote:Jesus never existed dude.


People expect God to give names, dates and times. If not, He does not exist.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » February 11th, 2022, 8:58 am

Scripture is just someone else's garbage. Not an action explanation

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby zoom rader » February 11th, 2022, 10:20 am

bluefete wrote:
matr1x wrote:In other words he doh know and only reposting scripture because parrots don't think


It seems the scriptures are posing a challenge to you.

timelapse wrote:So Nostradamus predicted Corona, So did Dan Brown, Simpsons too ,me thinks. But I suppose they don't count because they aren't the bible.


People expect God to give names, dates and times. If not, He does not exist.

zoom rader wrote:Jesus never existed dude.


People expect God to give names, dates and times. If not, He does not exist.
Jah did not write the Bible

Doh get tie up

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Cantmis » February 11th, 2022, 10:23 am

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby timelapse » February 11th, 2022, 11:26 am

Cantmis wrote:.
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Some how I feel some cuck wrote that

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluefete » February 11th, 2022, 11:58 am

Cantmis wrote:.
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timelapse wrote:Some how I feel some cuck wrote that


Actually it was a unmarried man named Paul.

1Corinthians14:

34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.




Now this same Paul who was unmarried said that if you want to be a priest, you should be married.

Peter who the Catholics claim to be the first pope was a married man.

But the same Catholic church telling men that if they want to be priests, they must not be married. It gives a whole set of passages why not. No wonder they have a pedo problem.

1 Timothy 3:1-12

3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not double-tongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;

9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.

11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.

12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » February 12th, 2022, 5:28 am

It's Saturday. Goddammit Saturday!!!!



Can't you you join the 21st century, you 4th century barbarians? Set an alarm

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby timelapse » February 12th, 2022, 7:49 am

bluefete wrote:
Cantmis wrote:.
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timelapse wrote:Some how I feel some cuck wrote that


Actually it was a unmarried man named Paul.

1Corinthians14:

34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.




Now this same Paul who was unmarried said that if you want to be a priest, you should be married.

Peter who the Catholics claim to be the first pope was a married man.

But the same Catholic church telling men that if they want to be priests, they must not be married. It gives a whole set of passages why not. No wonder they have a pedo problem.

1 Timothy 3:1-12

3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not double-tongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;

9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.

11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.

12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
You mean Saul

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluefete » February 12th, 2022, 5:00 pm

timelapse wrote:You mean Saul


Saul’s name was also Paul. The custom of dual names was common in those days. Acts 13:9 describes the apostle as “Saul, who was also called Paul.”

From that verse on, Saul is always referred to in Scripture as “Paul.”

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby timelapse » February 12th, 2022, 6:28 pm

bluefete wrote:
timelapse wrote:You mean Saul


Saul’s name was also Paul. The custom of dual names was common in those days. Acts 13:9 describes the apostle as “Saul, who was also called Paul.”

From that verse on, Saul is always referred to in Scripture as “Paul.”
Poppycock.That would be the corruption by King James and crew.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby zoom rader » February 12th, 2022, 6:55 pm

matr1x wrote:It's Saturday. Goddammit Saturday!!!!



Can't you you join the 21st century, you 4th century barbarians? Set an alarm
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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby timelapse » February 12th, 2022, 7:22 pm

I will jharay allyuh with spaghetti.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » February 12th, 2022, 7:55 pm

zoom rader wrote:
matr1x wrote:It's Saturday. Goddammit Saturday!!!!



Can't you you join the 21st century, you 4th century barbarians? Set an alarm
Bluefete needs a Puja and some horns blowing on him.

One eye just needs licks and a Bush bath with some UNC yellow power on his chest

I referred to Ali baba and he 40 thieves

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby abducted » February 13th, 2022, 10:45 am

Why doesn’t god just destroy the devil?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » February 13th, 2022, 2:05 pm

One imaginary creature cannot kill another imaginary creature

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby zoom rader » February 13th, 2022, 3:45 pm

abducted wrote:Why doesn’t god just destroy the devil?
Cause according to the Bible stories Satan was most loved by god.

Then Judas was Jesus was number 1 disciple and again the most loved

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby Rovin » February 15th, 2022, 2:19 pm

FIRST HINDU TEMPLE TO BE BUILT IN TOBAGO: THE SOD WAS TURNED ON SATURDAY, IN SIGNAL HILL.




really ?, it never had any b4 or somebody put out incorrect info ? ... :|

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby redmanjp » February 15th, 2022, 4:25 pm

all baptisms invalidated due to one word. and subsequent sacraments will have to be repeated as well.

so get baptized again, then 1st communion, then confirmation, and perhaps remarry again? :shock:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/14/us/pastor-invalid-baptisms-resignation/index.html

A pastor baptized people for decades using one wrong word. Now those are all considered invalid
By Chuck Johnston and Steve Almasy, CNN

Updated 0257 GMT (1057 HKT) February 15, 2022

(CNN)A Catholic priest has resigned after a church investigation found he performed invalid baptisms throughout most of his more than 20-year career, according to Bishop Thomas Olmsted of the Diocese of Phoenix.

Father Andres Arango, who performed thousands of baptisms, would say, "We baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." But Olmsted explained the words "We baptize" should have been "I baptize" instead.
"The issue with using 'We' is that it is not the community that baptizes a person, rather, it is Christ, and Him alone, who presides at all of the sacraments, and so it is Christ Jesus who baptizes," Olmsted wrote in a message to parishioners posted last month.
The error also means that because baptism is the first of the sacraments, some people will need to repeat other sacraments, according to the diocese webpage for frequently asked questions. CNN has reached out to the diocese for comment on other sacraments.
Arango resigned as pastor of the St. Gregory Parish in Phoenix as of February 1.

"It saddens me to learn that I have performed invalid baptisms throughout my ministry as a priest by regularly using an incorrect formula. I deeply regret my error and how this has affected numerous people in your parish and elsewhere," Arango wrote in his own message on the site.
Olmsted said the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in 2020 affirmed that when a baptism is conferred with the formula "We baptize ..." it is invalid and people need to be baptized again.
The diocese has set up a website for anyone who believes they had an invalid baptism. The diocese said baptisms Arango conducted after June 17, 2021, are presumed valid.
According to Katie Burke, a spokesperson for the diocese, some new baptisms have already taken place.
Arango began his career in Brazil in 1995. He will continue to be a priest, and will dedicate his energy and time to help those who had invalid baptisms.
Olmsted said he did not believe Andres intended to harm any of the parishioners.
"I too am sincerely sorry that this error has resulted in disruption to the sacramental lives of a number of the faithful. This is why I pledge to take every step necessary to remedy the situation for everyone impacted," Olmsted said.
According to the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, there are seven sacraments in the Catholic church: baptism, confirmation, Eucharist, reconciliation, anointing the sick, marriage and holy orders.
"Through the Sacraments, God shares his holiness with us so that we, in turn, can make the world holier," the conference says on its website.


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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby timelapse » February 15th, 2022, 4:33 pm

redmanjp wrote:all baptisms invalidated due to one word. and subsequent sacraments will have to be repeated as well.

so get baptized again, then 1st communion, then confirmation, and perhaps remarry again? :shock:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/14/us/pastor-invalid-baptisms-resignation/index.html

A pastor baptized people for decades using one wrong word. Now those are all considered invalid
By Chuck Johnston and Steve Almasy, CNN

Updated 0257 GMT (1057 HKT) February 15, 2022

(CNN)A Catholic priest has resigned after a church investigation found he performed invalid baptisms throughout most of his more than 20-year career, according to Bishop Thomas Olmsted of the Diocese of Phoenix.

Father Andres Arango, who performed thousands of baptisms, would say, "We baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." But Olmsted explained the words "We baptize" should have been "I baptize" instead.
"The issue with using 'We' is that it is not the community that baptizes a person, rather, it is Christ, and Him alone, who presides at all of the sacraments, and so it is Christ Jesus who baptizes," Olmsted wrote in a message to parishioners posted last month.
The error also means that because baptism is the first of the sacraments, some people will need to repeat other sacraments, according to the diocese webpage for frequently asked questions. CNN has reached out to the diocese for comment on other sacraments.
Arango resigned as pastor of the St. Gregory Parish in Phoenix as of February 1.

"It saddens me to learn that I have performed invalid baptisms throughout my ministry as a priest by regularly using an incorrect formula. I deeply regret my error and how this has affected numerous people in your parish and elsewhere," Arango wrote in his own message on the site.
Olmsted said the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in 2020 affirmed that when a baptism is conferred with the formula "We baptize ..." it is invalid and people need to be baptized again.
The diocese has set up a website for anyone who believes they had an invalid baptism. The diocese said baptisms Arango conducted after June 17, 2021, are presumed valid.
According to Katie Burke, a spokesperson for the diocese, some new baptisms have already taken place.
Arango began his career in Brazil in 1995. He will continue to be a priest, and will dedicate his energy and time to help those who had invalid baptisms.
Olmsted said he did not believe Andres intended to harm any of the parishioners.
"I too am sincerely sorry that this error has resulted in disruption to the sacramental lives of a number of the faithful. This is why I pledge to take every step necessary to remedy the situation for everyone impacted," Olmsted said.
According to the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, there are seven sacraments in the Catholic church: baptism, confirmation, Eucharist, reconciliation, anointing the sick, marriage and holy orders.
"Through the Sacraments, God shares his holiness with us so that we, in turn, can make the world holier," the conference says on its website.

His pronouns were he/we .
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