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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 42233 cases, 1196 deaths, 5966 active, 35071 recovered in T&T

Postby drchaos » August 18th, 2021, 10:11 am

adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:Allu men know how to lie with stats

The study you posted above says a well fitted cloth mask works as well as a surgical masks. Surgical masks don’t work either.

It’s like saying humans can fly really well, in fact a study found they can fly as well as elephants
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Surgical Masks and the Activated Carbon mask on the picture work the same mechanically. So this is basically BS.

if you can't spell Activated Carbon Properly then you don't deserve to be a reference.
So it proves my point, Thanks.

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 18th, 2021, 10:36 am

Covid 19 is a respiratory virus. They made up all that handwashing bs at the start and obviously they don't want to remove it because it would look like yet another flip flop.

And masks. If you all believe in masks so much, then go to a hospital with covid patients wearing a cloth mask.

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Postby aaron17 » August 18th, 2021, 12:09 pm

Ppl gonna say dais jus whan study.

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Postby teems1 » August 18th, 2021, 12:29 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:Covid 19 is a respiratory virus. They made up all that handwashing bs at the start and obviously they don't want to remove it because it would look like yet another flip flop.

And masks. If you all believe in masks so much, then go to a hospital with covid patients wearing a cloth mask.


The spike proteins of the virus attaches itself to mucous membranes in your nasal passage, throat or esophagus. From there it will replicate and cause havoc on your body.

You don't have to breathe in the virus to get it.

If someone with Covid coughs into his hand, then you shake his hand, then you bite your nails

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 18th, 2021, 12:40 pm

teems1 wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:Covid 19 is a respiratory virus. They made up all that handwashing bs at the start and obviously they don't want to remove it because it would look like yet another flip flop.

And masks. If you all believe in masks so much, then go to a hospital with covid patients wearing a cloth mask.


The spike proteins of the virus attaches itself to mucous membranes in your nasal passage, throat or esophagus. From there it will replicate and cause havoc on your body.

You don't have to breathe in the virus to get it.

If someone with Covid coughs into his hand, then you shake his hand, then you bite your nails


Who really shaking hands these days?

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Postby timelapse » August 18th, 2021, 1:08 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
teems1 wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:Covid 19 is a respiratory virus. They made up all that handwashing bs at the start and obviously they don't want to remove it because it would look like yet another flip flop.

And masks. If you all believe in masks so much, then go to a hospital with covid patients wearing a cloth mask.


The spike proteins of the virus attaches itself to mucous membranes in your nasal passage, throat or esophagus. From there it will replicate and cause havoc on your body.

You don't have to breathe in the virus to get it.

If someone with Covid coughs into his hand, then you shake his hand, then you bite your nails


Who really shaking hands these days?
One word...boogers

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Postby hover11 » August 18th, 2021, 1:24 pm

Can we have travel restrictions placed on certain countries now?
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Postby Dohplaydat » August 18th, 2021, 1:39 pm

hover11 wrote:Can we have travel restrictions placed on certain countries now?FB_IMG_1629307403461.jpg


U mean like the world? That plan has been scrapped, borders open in the south still.

Time to vaccinate, no excuses.

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Postby aaron17 » August 18th, 2021, 2:25 pm

Are we in an endemic? Or thats a dream?

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Postby aaron17 » August 18th, 2021, 2:46 pm

Can someone tell me why is 'Time' not a factor of testing vaccines? A long period vs a short one.

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Postby Dohplaydat » August 18th, 2021, 2:55 pm

aaron17 wrote:Can someone tell me why is 'Time' not a factor of testing vaccines? A long period vs a short one.


Testing what exactly? Safety? Efficacy?

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Postby aaron17 » August 18th, 2021, 2:58 pm

yea....

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Postby drchaos » August 18th, 2021, 3:03 pm

teems1 wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:Covid 19 is a respiratory virus. They made up all that handwashing bs at the start and obviously they don't want to remove it because it would look like yet another flip flop.

And masks. If you all believe in masks so much, then go to a hospital with covid patients wearing a cloth mask.


The spike proteins of the virus attaches itself to mucous membranes in your nasal passage, throat or esophagus. From there it will replicate and cause havoc on your body.

You don't have to breathe in the virus to get it.

If someone with Covid coughs into his hand, then you shake his hand, then you bite your nails


This is extremely unlikely to the point we don't need to worry about this.
The amount of virus your will get from biting your nail is extremely insignificant. Those said viral particles need to not be exposed to light as they get inactivated. They also need to survive your saliva which is antiviral, then your innate immune defenses need to be evaded.

Its possible for you to be struck by lightning today but highly improbable.

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Postby drchaos » August 18th, 2021, 3:10 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Can someone tell me why is 'Time' not a factor of testing vaccines? A long period vs a short one.


Testing what exactly? Safety? Efficacy?


Efficacy and short term safety can be decided very quickly and so most of these vaccines have proven this.

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Postby hover11 » August 18th, 2021, 3:12 pm

What about medium and long term effects along with prolonged usage and of course the effects on the body due to the unregulated mixing of these multiple vaccines?
drchaos wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Can someone tell me why is 'Time' not a factor of testing vaccines? A long period vs a short one.


Testing what exactly? Safety? Efficacy?


Efficacy and short term safety can be decided very quickly and so most of these vaccines have proven this.
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Postby aaron17 » August 18th, 2021, 3:23 pm

drchaos wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Can someone tell me why is 'Time' not a factor of testing vaccines? A long period vs a short one.


Testing what exactly? Safety? Efficacy?


Efficacy and short term safety can be decided very quickly and so most of these vaccines have proven this.


what about reaction to the body overtime(long term)?

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Postby redmanjp » August 18th, 2021, 3:28 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:Covid 19 is a respiratory virus. They made up all that handwashing bs at the start and obviously they don't want to remove it because it would look like yet another flip flop.

And masks. If you all believe in masks so much, then go to a hospital with covid patients wearing a cloth mask.


cloth masks are to prevent the wearer from spreading the virus to others, not necessarily to protect himself- for that you need the N95 or KN95.

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Postby redmanjp » August 18th, 2021, 3:30 pm

aaron17 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Can someone tell me why is 'Time' not a factor of testing vaccines? A long period vs a short one.


Testing what exactly? Safety? Efficacy?


Efficacy and short term safety can be decided very quickly and so most of these vaccines have proven this.


what about reaction to the body overtime(long term)?


we would by now have a almost year of data from ppl involved in the trials as well as months of data from 100s of millions of ppl worldwide who got the vax. if something were seriously wrong then by now we would have seen it. take the shot bro.
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Postby drchaos » August 18th, 2021, 3:36 pm

hover11 wrote:What about medium and long term effects along with prolonged usage and of course the unregulated mixing of these multiple vaccines?
drchaos wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Can someone tell me why is 'Time' not a factor of testing vaccines? A long period vs a short one.


Testing what exactly? Safety? Efficacy?


Efficacy and short term safety can be decided very quickly and so most of these vaccines have proven this.


We really just do not know.
There is a good chance they may have long term safety since the short term safety was relatively ok.
But we will get that data later on.

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Postby aaron17 » August 18th, 2021, 3:44 pm

drchaos wrote:
hover11 wrote:What about medium and long term effects along with prolonged usage and of course the unregulated mixing of these multiple vaccines?
drchaos wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Can someone tell me why is 'Time' not a factor of testing vaccines? A long period vs a short one.


Testing what exactly? Safety? Efficacy?


Efficacy and short term safety can be decided very quickly and so most of these vaccines have proven this.


We really just do not know.
There is a good chance they may have long term safety since the short term safety was relatively ok.
But we will get that data later on.


Would the long term times be like 5 years? Jus like other times in previous pandemics?

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Postby adnj » August 18th, 2021, 3:47 pm

drchaos wrote:
teems1 wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:Covid 19 is a respiratory virus. They made up all that handwashing bs at the start and obviously they don't want to remove it because it would look like yet another flip flop.

And masks. If you all believe in masks so much, then go to a hospital with covid patients wearing a cloth mask.


The spike proteins of the virus attaches itself to mucous membranes in your nasal passage, throat or esophagus. From there it will replicate and cause havoc on your body.

You don't have to breathe in the virus to get it.

If someone with Covid coughs into his hand, then you shake his hand, then you bite your nails


This is extremely unlikely to the point we don't need to worry about this.
The amount of virus your will get from biting your nail is extremely insignificant. Those said viral particles need to not be exposed to light as they get inactivated. They also need to survive your saliva which is antiviral, then your innate immune defenses need to be evaded.

Its possible for you to be struck by lightning today but highly improbable.
Why is washing your hands still important?

The CDC still stresses the importance of hand hygiene, and doctors agree that regularly washing your hands (or using hand sanitizer in a pinch) is still a crucial step in preventing the spread of COVID-19.

“People invariably touch their face,” says Richard Watkins, M.D., infectious disease physician and professor of internal medicine at the Northeast Ohio Medical University. If there happens to be enough coronavirus particles surviving on a surface you just touched, you still have a slim chance of getting sick, especially if you are not yet fully vaccinated.

https://www.prevention.com/health/a3603 ... sion-risk/

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Postby adnj » August 18th, 2021, 3:51 pm

drchaos wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Can someone tell me why is 'Time' not a factor of testing vaccines? A long period vs a short one.


Testing what exactly? Safety? Efficacy?


Efficacy and short term safety can be decided very quickly and so most of these vaccines have proven this.
Studies follow participants two months for an EUA and six months for full approval. More time is spent enrolling participants, summarizing data for review, and responding to the review board questions than the actual clinical study.

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 18th, 2021, 4:00 pm

adnj wrote:
drchaos wrote:
teems1 wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:Covid 19 is a respiratory virus. They made up all that handwashing bs at the start and obviously they don't want to remove it because it would look like yet another flip flop.

And masks. If you all believe in masks so much, then go to a hospital with covid patients wearing a cloth mask.


The spike proteins of the virus attaches itself to mucous membranes in your nasal passage, throat or esophagus. From there it will replicate and cause havoc on your body.

You don't have to breathe in the virus to get it.

If someone with Covid coughs into his hand, then you shake his hand, then you bite your nails


This is extremely unlikely to the point we don't need to worry about this.
The amount of virus your will get from biting your nail is extremely insignificant. Those said viral particles need to not be exposed to light as they get inactivated. They also need to survive your saliva which is antiviral, then your innate immune defenses need to be evaded.

Its possible for you to be struck by lightning today but highly improbable.
Why is washing your hands still important?

The CDC still stresses the importance of hand hygiene, and doctors agree that regularly washing your hands (or using hand sanitizer in a pinch) is still a crucial step in preventing the spread of COVID-19.

“People invariably touch their face,” says Richard Watkins, M.D., infectious disease physician and professor of internal medicine at the Northeast Ohio Medical University. If there happens to be enough coronavirus particles surviving on a surface you just touched, you still have a slim chance of getting sick, especially if you are not yet fully vaccinated.

https://www.prevention.com/health/a3603 ... sion-risk/


Doctors would never come out and tell people not to wash their hands

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 18th, 2021, 4:01 pm

redmanjp wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:Covid 19 is a respiratory virus. They made up all that handwashing bs at the start and obviously they don't want to remove it because it would look like yet another flip flop.

And masks. If you all believe in masks so much, then go to a hospital with covid patients wearing a cloth mask.


cloth masks are to prevent the wearer from spreading the virus to others, not necessarily to protect himself- for that you need the N95 or KN95.


Well find some people with covid, let them wear cloth mask and spend an hour with them in an enclosed environment. You let me know the results.

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 18th, 2021, 4:04 pm



I don't see why not. If unvaccinated people with mild symptoms develop it then vaccinated people who would only get mild symptoms should develop it also.

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Postby DMan7 » August 18th, 2021, 4:58 pm

194 / 4

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 18th, 2021, 5:09 pm

DMan7 wrote:194 / 4

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When they give out 20 j&j? And no children get Pfizer today?

Also the grim milestone of 1200 deaths.

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Postby DMan7 » August 18th, 2021, 5:16 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
DMan7 wrote:194 / 4

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When they give out 20 j&j? And no children get Pfizer today?

Also the grim milestone of 1200 deaths.


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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 42233 cases, 1196 deaths, 5966 active, 35071 recovered in T&T

Postby pugboy » August 18th, 2021, 5:16 pm

not a grim milestone,
only 2-3% die according to some here and once its not anybody related to you its neither here nor there as 98% chance you will survive if you get covid

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