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Postby viedcht » August 14th, 2021, 7:28 pm

hover11 wrote: So what happens when a child wants to vaccinate and the parents refuse or vice versa lol that is going have a societal fall out.


This already happening in the US, Europe, other countries with proven vaccines against Polio, Smallpox, etc. Mindless people surround us.

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Postby hover11 » August 14th, 2021, 7:31 pm

Some parents honestly have grown accustom to their children being home and learning through the online methods I wouldn't be surprised if that is a permanent switch for most
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hover11 wrote: So what happens when a child wants to vaccinate and the parents refuse or vice versa lol that is going have a societal fall out.


This already happening in the US, Europe, other countries with proven vaccines against Polio, Smallpox, etc. Mindless people surround us.

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Postby drchaos » August 14th, 2021, 7:35 pm

viedcht wrote:Maybe this is the depopulation we need. 3-4 yrs of constant Covid & Covid-Plus/variants with global financial instability and hoarding depleting resources, then Global Conflict. When people can't hear, let them feel.


I also really hope Bill gates is depopulating the world with these vaccines.

Some people on this chat and in the country really shouldn't procreate.

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Postby rexsmith » August 14th, 2021, 7:37 pm

why is it 2 weeks for your 2nd dose but AZ is 6 to 8 weeks i took AZ this week and 2nd dose is October

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Postby viedcht » August 14th, 2021, 7:43 pm

drchaos wrote:
viedcht wrote:Maybe this is the depopulation we need. 3-4 yrs of constant Covid & Covid-Plus/variants with global financial instability and hoarding depleting resources, then Global Conflict. When people can't hear, let them feel.


I also really hope Bill gates is depopulating the world with these vaccines.

Some people on this chat and in the country really shouldn't procreate.
I understand Bill part in it is funding. I not into the microchip or killing out black/coloured people with the vaccine... But the way people in this place going, and with an "ineffective' vaccine, it likely we heading downhill. How far before the world becomes irrecoverable?

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 14th, 2021, 8:18 pm

viedcht wrote:
drchaos wrote:
viedcht wrote:Maybe this is the depopulation we need. 3-4 yrs of constant Covid & Covid-Plus/variants with global financial instability and hoarding depleting resources, then Global Conflict. When people can't hear, let them feel.


I also really hope Bill gates is depopulating the world with these vaccines.

Some people on this chat and in the country really shouldn't procreate.
I understand Bill part in it is funding. I not into the microchip or killing out black/coloured people with the vaccine... But the way people in this place going, and with an "ineffective' vaccine, it likely we heading downhill. How far before the world becomes irrecoverable?


This is part of the push towards a global government.

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Postby Kenjo » August 14th, 2021, 8:45 pm

rexsmith wrote:why is it 2 weeks for your 2nd dose but AZ is 6 to 8 weeks i took AZ this week and 2nd dose is October

Hasn’t AZ been available in Trinidad since March and this is the first time people hearing of thus ? Has the fb and social media info dissemination been more efficient than official sources?

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Postby redmanjp » August 14th, 2021, 9:01 pm

Perhaps all vaccines should have the 8 weeks interval. I think there's a study where Pfizer was given out with a longer interval in the UK and the immunity is longer lasting

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Postby aaron17 » August 14th, 2021, 9:15 pm

https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/2 ... 9-vaccines


This is an old article? I wanna know if tnt following WHO or usa?
Or we jus following the science or whoever we see fit?

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Postby redmanjp » August 14th, 2021, 9:32 pm

aaron17 wrote:https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/2021/06/21/who-says-children-should-not-receive-covid-19-vaccines


This is an old article? I wanna know if tnt following WHO or usa?
Or we jus following the science or whoever we see fit?


WHO gave EUA for Pfizer to be used in children 12 and up.

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Postby adnj » August 15th, 2021, 6:52 am

US sees record number of children in hospital with COVID

14 Aug 2021

The number of children hospitalised with COVID-19 has hit a record-high in the United States, which continues to grapple with the rapid spread of the highly contagious Delta variant, especially in areas with low vaccination rates.

Paediatric hospitalisations hit 1,902 on Saturday, according to data from the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) – accounting for about 2.4 percent of the country’s total coronavirus-related hospitalisations.

Children below 12 years of age are not eligible to receive the coronavirus vaccine, leaving them more vulnerable to infection from the highly transmissible variant.

“This is not last year’s COVID. This one is worse and our children are the ones that are going to be affected by it the most,” Sally Goza, former president of the American Academy of Pediatrics, told CNN on Saturday.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/1 ... with-covid
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Postby timelapse » August 15th, 2021, 7:13 am

hover11 wrote:Which leads me to believe the government does not care about our health so many products that are not fda approved, unknown side effects are knowingly sold to the citizens but when it comes to the vaccine ....we care about your health please take the jab
hover11 wrote:He said it to make a point , ppl studying the side effects but the best sellers in pharmacies are things that are not even fda approved, yet ppl take them religiously and they are taken with no hesitation
bluefete wrote:Rowley really mentioned "horny goat weed" in the presser today??????
FDA is merican.Has zero jurisdiction here.

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Postby Kenjo » August 15th, 2021, 7:37 am

timelapse wrote:
hover11 wrote:Which leads me to believe the government does not care about our health so many products that are not fda approved, unknown side effects are knowingly sold to the citizens but when it comes to the vaccine ....we care about your health please take the jab
hover11 wrote:He said it to make a point , ppl studying the side effects but the best sellers in pharmacies are things that are not even fda approved, yet ppl take them religiously and they are taken with no hesitation
bluefete wrote:Rowley really mentioned "horny goat weed" in the presser today??????
FDA is merican.Has zero jurisdiction here.

A lot of items are possibly sold as Suppliments even in the USA so they don’t use fda approval . It’s confusing but you won’t get a medical doctor prescribing it but you can buy it over the counter .

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Postby adnj » August 15th, 2021, 7:49 am

timelapse wrote:
hover11 wrote:Which leads me to believe the government does not care about our health so many products that are not fda approved, unknown side effects are knowingly sold to the citizens but when it comes to the vaccine ....we care about your health please take the jab
hover11 wrote:He said it to make a point , ppl studying the side effects but the best sellers in pharmacies are things that are not even fda approved, yet ppl take them religiously and they are taken with no hesitation
bluefete wrote:Rowley really mentioned "horny goat weed" in the presser today??????
FDA is merican.Has zero jurisdiction here.


It's typically a formality. Many supplements and pharmaceuticals that have Latin American approvals are REJECTED by the US FDA.

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The CRS (CARIBBEAN REGULATORY SYSTEM) currently accepts applications for review of finished pharmaceutical products granted marketing authorization by one of the following Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) designated National Regulatory Authorities of Regional Reference (NRA/RR). These authorities have been assessed by PAHO to meet reference standards in accordance with PAHO Directing Council Resolution CD50.R9. The NRAs/RR provide support for capacity-building to other regulatory authorities in the region. The NRAs/RR of the following countries are eligible:

Argentina: Argentinian National Institute of Drugs / Administración Nacional de Medicamentos, Alimentos y Tecnología Médica (ANMAT)

Brazil: Agencia Nacional de Vigilancia Sanitaria. Ministério da Saúde (ANVISA)

Canada: Canadian Health Products and Food Branch Inspectorate (HPFBI) – Health Canada / Santé Canada

Chile: Instituto de Salud Pública (ISP)

Colombia: Instituto Nacional de Vigilancia de Medicamentos y Alimentos (INVIMA)

Cuba: Centro para el Control Estatal de la Calidad de los Medicamentos, Ministerio de Salud Pública (CECMED)

Mexico: Mexican Federal Commission for the Protection Against Sanitary Risks / Comisión Federal para la Protección contra Riesgos Sanitarios (COFEPRIS)

United States Food and Drug Administration (US FDA).

https://carpha.org/What-We-Do/CRS/Operational-Policy

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Postby Dohplaydat » August 15th, 2021, 8:02 am

New studies show evidence of Long Covid Penis Problems

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Postby hover11 » August 15th, 2021, 9:00 am

A 71 year old man with a history of heart problems got covid and lived to tell the tale...he seems to be doing fine. As we see him nearly every week on TV , I will take my chances

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Postby gastly369 » August 15th, 2021, 9:08 am

Why did the 71yr old decide to take the vaccine still then?

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Postby hover11 » August 15th, 2021, 9:15 am

How did the 71 year old survive though
gastly369 wrote:Why did the 71yr old decide to take the vaccine still then?

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Postby st7 » August 15th, 2021, 9:19 am

gastly369 wrote:Why did the 71yr old decide to take the vaccine still then?


leave him be and let him take his chances. he made his choice.

he keeps posting here for validation.

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Postby hover11 » August 15th, 2021, 9:25 am

Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state ALL the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects

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Postby st7 » August 15th, 2021, 9:32 am

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine? :|

also learn to punctuate your non-sensible rants. reading ur posts is already a pain, and reading it over 2-3 times to make sense of what you saying is another.

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Postby hover11 » August 15th, 2021, 9:34 am

You should be the last person to tell me anything about English bro,remember you "get" a G in English? Yeah that's not your strong suit, stick to what you good at
st7 wrote:who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine? :|

also learn to punctuate your non-sensible rants. reading ur posts is already a pain, and reading it over 2-3 times to make sense of what you saying is another.

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Postby st7 » August 15th, 2021, 9:36 am

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine? :|

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Postby Dohplaydat » August 15th, 2021, 9:38 am

hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects


Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.

Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.

So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.

Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.

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Postby st7 » August 15th, 2021, 9:42 am

Dohplaydat wrote:
hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects


Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.

Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.

So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.

Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.


they all complain and make excuses... yet provide no solutions. typical lazy keyboard-failures who probably cover their laptop cameras because they 'know better' while using their phones freely

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Postby hover11 » August 15th, 2021, 9:43 am

Nobody does that anymore just use a vpn so they can't track
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Dohplaydat wrote:
hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects


Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.

Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.

So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.

Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.


they all complain and make excuses... yet provide no solutions. typical lazy keyboard-failures who probably cover their laptop cameras because they 'know better' while using their phones freely

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Postby hover11 » August 15th, 2021, 9:47 am

You said millions died while that is true , there are a greater number of millions that survived probably double or even triple that number.... we have to continue our protocols mask wearing, sanitizing and distancing, it is the only way a vaccine is not a cure as seen by vaccinated persons can contract the virus so you say vaccination will get us out of this pandemic . Question, what happens when the virus learns to overcome these vaccines and we back to square one, when alpha variant first came on the scene it was said children were not really affected , now we have delta which is affecting them ..so what happens when vaccinated are affected...what then?
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hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects


Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.

Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.

So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.

Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.

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Postby Dohplaydat » August 15th, 2021, 9:56 am

hover11 wrote:You said millions died while that is true , there are a greater number of millions that survived probably double or even triple that number.... we have to continue our protocols mask wearing, sanitizing and distancing, it is the only way a vaccine is not a cure as seen by vaccinated persons can contract the virus so you say vaccination will get us out of this pandemic . Question, what happens when the virus learns to overcome these vaccines and we back to square one, when alpha variant first came on the scene it was said children were not really affected , now we have delta which is affecting them ..so what happens when vaccinated are affected...what then?
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hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects


Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.

Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.

So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.

Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.


Why does it matter that millions survived? If the mortality rate was 50% would you still say well millions surviving? Stop looking at numbers in isolation and look at the big picture. Businesses and freedoms have stopped due to this virus, does that not upset you and make you think, well sheit covid is a problem.

Viruses don't 'learn', that's not how they work. They work by random mutation is happens far more in an unvaccinated population. By reducing spread and cases we reduce variants.

Saying the unvaccinated are a risk to everyone isn't hyperbole, it's a fact because if you all don't adhere to restrictions when we inevitably open back up, then the possiblity of vaccine beating variants arising increases, sending us back to 2020.

We honestly don't know if covid-19 will evolve into something harmless or something worse, by all accounts though, not a single variant has had a lower mortality rate so the answer seems to be no, it won't get better.

And reinfections from variants have been happening quite frequently as natural immunity does not hold up as well as vacine induced immunity.

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Postby st7 » August 15th, 2021, 9:59 am

Dohplaydat wrote:
hover11 wrote:You said millions died while that is true , there are a greater number of millions that survived probably double or even triple that number.... we have to continue our protocols mask wearing, sanitizing and distancing, it is the only way a vaccine is not a cure as seen by vaccinated persons can contract the virus so you say vaccination will get us out of this pandemic . Question, what happens when the virus learns to overcome these vaccines and we back to square one, when alpha variant first came on the scene it was said children were not really affected , now we have delta which is affecting them ..so what happens when vaccinated are affected...what then?
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hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects


Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.

Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.

So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.

Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.


Why does it matter that millions survived? If the mortality rate was 50% would you still say well millions surviving? Stop looking at numbers in isolation and look at the big picture. Businesses and freedoms have stopped due to this virus, does that not upset you and make you think, well sheit covid is a problem.

Viruses don't 'learn', that's not how they work. They work by random mutation is happens far more in an unvaccinated population. By reducing spread and cases we reduce variants.

Saying the unvaccinated are a risk to everyone isn't hyperbole, it's a fact because if you all don't adhere to restrictions when we inevitably open back up, then the possiblity of vaccine beating variants arising increases, sending us back to 2020.

We honestly don't know if covid-19 will evolve into something harmless or something worse, by all accounts though, not a single variant has had a lower mortality rate so the answer seems to be no, it won't get better.

And reinfections from variants have been happening quite frequently as natural immunity does not hold up as well as vacine induced immunity.


it's typical ignorant behaviour. throw a bunch of random stats to prove a non-existing point over and over again. revolving door brain.

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Postby hover11 » August 15th, 2021, 10:06 am

It matters because you are advising that perfectly healthy people take an emergency use vaccine that they may more than likely survive on their own with their natural immunity.If any complications develop from the use of these "vaccines " short, medium or long term they have no recourse due to the waiver they signed. It is sad the world is not like how it was before but you have to understand that normal is no more.Come to terms with reality, this is the new normal and similar to that of the virus we must learn to adapt to survive, if it means changing our business practices and methods of conducting transactions.
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hover11 wrote:You said millions died while that is true , there are a greater number of millions that survived probably double or even triple that number.... we have to continue our protocols mask wearing, sanitizing and distancing, it is the only way a vaccine is not a cure as seen by vaccinated persons can contract the virus so you say vaccination will get us out of this pandemic . Question, what happens when the virus learns to overcome these vaccines and we back to square one, when alpha variant first came on the scene it was said children were not really affected , now we have delta which is affecting them ..so what happens when vaccinated are affected...what then?
Dohplaydat wrote:
hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects


Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.

Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.

So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.

Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.


Why does it matter that millions survived? If the mortality rate was 50% would you still say well millions surviving? Stop looking at numbers in isolation and look at the big picture. Businesses and freedoms have stopped due to this virus, does that not upset you and make you think, well sheit covid is a problem.

Viruses don't 'learn', that's not how they work. They work by random mutation is happens far more in an unvaccinated population. By reducing spread and cases we reduce variants.

Saying the unvaccinated are a risk to everyone isn't hyperbole, it's a fact because if you all don't adhere to restrictions when we inevitably open back up, then the possiblity of vaccine beating variants arising increases, sending us back to 2020.

We honestly don't know if covid-19 will evolve into something harmless or something worse, by all accounts though, not a single variant has had a lower mortality rate so the answer seems to be no, it won't get better.

And reinfections from variants have been happening quite frequently as natural immunity does not hold up as well as vacine induced immunity.

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