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hover11 wrote: So what happens when a child wants to vaccinate and the parents refuse or vice versa lol that is going have a societal fall out.
viedcht wrote:hover11 wrote: So what happens when a child wants to vaccinate and the parents refuse or vice versa lol that is going have a societal fall out.
This already happening in the US, Europe, other countries with proven vaccines against Polio, Smallpox, etc. Mindless people surround us.
viedcht wrote:Maybe this is the depopulation we need. 3-4 yrs of constant Covid & Covid-Plus/variants with global financial instability and hoarding depleting resources, then Global Conflict. When people can't hear, let them feel.
I understand Bill part in it is funding. I not into the microchip or killing out black/coloured people with the vaccine... But the way people in this place going, and with an "ineffective' vaccine, it likely we heading downhill. How far before the world becomes irrecoverable?drchaos wrote:viedcht wrote:Maybe this is the depopulation we need. 3-4 yrs of constant Covid & Covid-Plus/variants with global financial instability and hoarding depleting resources, then Global Conflict. When people can't hear, let them feel.
I also really hope Bill gates is depopulating the world with these vaccines.
Some people on this chat and in the country really shouldn't procreate.
viedcht wrote:I understand Bill part in it is funding. I not into the microchip or killing out black/coloured people with the vaccine... But the way people in this place going, and with an "ineffective' vaccine, it likely we heading downhill. How far before the world becomes irrecoverable?drchaos wrote:viedcht wrote:Maybe this is the depopulation we need. 3-4 yrs of constant Covid & Covid-Plus/variants with global financial instability and hoarding depleting resources, then Global Conflict. When people can't hear, let them feel.
I also really hope Bill gates is depopulating the world with these vaccines.
Some people on this chat and in the country really shouldn't procreate.
rexsmith wrote:why is it 2 weeks for your 2nd dose but AZ is 6 to 8 weeks i took AZ this week and 2nd dose is October
aaron17 wrote:https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/2021/06/21/who-says-children-should-not-receive-covid-19-vaccines
This is an old article? I wanna know if tnt following WHO or usa?
Or we jus following the science or whoever we see fit?
FDA is merican.Has zero jurisdiction here.hover11 wrote:Which leads me to believe the government does not care about our health so many products that are not fda approved, unknown side effects are knowingly sold to the citizens but when it comes to the vaccine ....we care about your health please take the jabhover11 wrote:He said it to make a point , ppl studying the side effects but the best sellers in pharmacies are things that are not even fda approved, yet ppl take them religiously and they are taken with no hesitationbluefete wrote:Rowley really mentioned "horny goat weed" in the presser today??????
timelapse wrote:FDA is merican.Has zero jurisdiction here.hover11 wrote:Which leads me to believe the government does not care about our health so many products that are not fda approved, unknown side effects are knowingly sold to the citizens but when it comes to the vaccine ....we care about your health please take the jabhover11 wrote:He said it to make a point , ppl studying the side effects but the best sellers in pharmacies are things that are not even fda approved, yet ppl take them religiously and they are taken with no hesitationbluefete wrote:Rowley really mentioned "horny goat weed" in the presser today??????
timelapse wrote:FDA is merican.Has zero jurisdiction here.hover11 wrote:Which leads me to believe the government does not care about our health so many products that are not fda approved, unknown side effects are knowingly sold to the citizens but when it comes to the vaccine ....we care about your health please take the jabhover11 wrote:He said it to make a point , ppl studying the side effects but the best sellers in pharmacies are things that are not even fda approved, yet ppl take them religiously and they are taken with no hesitationbluefete wrote:Rowley really mentioned "horny goat weed" in the presser today??????
gastly369 wrote:Why did the 71yr old decide to take the vaccine still then?
gastly369 wrote:Why did the 71yr old decide to take the vaccine still then?
st7 wrote:who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine?![]()
also learn to punctuate your non-sensible rants. reading ur posts is already a pain, and reading it over 2-3 times to make sense of what you saying is another.
hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects
Dohplaydat wrote:hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects
Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.
Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.
So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.
Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.
st7 wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects
Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.
Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.
So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.
Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.
they all complain and make excuses... yet provide no solutions. typical lazy keyboard-failures who probably cover their laptop cameras because they 'know better' while using their phones freely
Dohplaydat wrote:hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects
Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.
Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.
So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.
Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.
hover11 wrote:You said millions died while that is true , there are a greater number of millions that survived probably double or even triple that number.... we have to continue our protocols mask wearing, sanitizing and distancing, it is the only way a vaccine is not a cure as seen by vaccinated persons can contract the virus so you say vaccination will get us out of this pandemic . Question, what happens when the virus learns to overcome these vaccines and we back to square one, when alpha variant first came on the scene it was said children were not really affected , now we have delta which is affecting them ..so what happens when vaccinated are affected...what then?Dohplaydat wrote:hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects
Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.
Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.
So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.
Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.
Dohplaydat wrote:hover11 wrote:You said millions died while that is true , there are a greater number of millions that survived probably double or even triple that number.... we have to continue our protocols mask wearing, sanitizing and distancing, it is the only way a vaccine is not a cure as seen by vaccinated persons can contract the virus so you say vaccination will get us out of this pandemic . Question, what happens when the virus learns to overcome these vaccines and we back to square one, when alpha variant first came on the scene it was said children were not really affected , now we have delta which is affecting them ..so what happens when vaccinated are affected...what then?Dohplaydat wrote:hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects
Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.
Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.
So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.
Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.
Why does it matter that millions survived? If the mortality rate was 50% would you still say well millions surviving? Stop looking at numbers in isolation and look at the big picture. Businesses and freedoms have stopped due to this virus, does that not upset you and make you think, well sheit covid is a problem.
Viruses don't 'learn', that's not how they work. They work by random mutation is happens far more in an unvaccinated population. By reducing spread and cases we reduce variants.
Saying the unvaccinated are a risk to everyone isn't hyperbole, it's a fact because if you all don't adhere to restrictions when we inevitably open back up, then the possiblity of vaccine beating variants arising increases, sending us back to 2020.
We honestly don't know if covid-19 will evolve into something harmless or something worse, by all accounts though, not a single variant has had a lower mortality rate so the answer seems to be no, it won't get better.
And reinfections from variants have been happening quite frequently as natural immunity does not hold up as well as vacine induced immunity.
Dohplaydat wrote:hover11 wrote:You said millions died while that is true , there are a greater number of millions that survived probably double or even triple that number.... we have to continue our protocols mask wearing, sanitizing and distancing, it is the only way a vaccine is not a cure as seen by vaccinated persons can contract the virus so you say vaccination will get us out of this pandemic . Question, what happens when the virus learns to overcome these vaccines and we back to square one, when alpha variant first came on the scene it was said children were not really affected , now we have delta which is affecting them ..so what happens when vaccinated are affected...what then?Dohplaydat wrote:hover11 wrote:Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects
Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.
Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.
So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.
Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.
Why does it matter that millions survived? If the mortality rate was 50% would you still say well millions surviving? Stop looking at numbers in isolation and look at the big picture. Businesses and freedoms have stopped due to this virus, does that not upset you and make you think, well sheit covid is a problem.
Viruses don't 'learn', that's not how they work. They work by random mutation is happens far more in an unvaccinated population. By reducing spread and cases we reduce variants.
Saying the unvaccinated are a risk to everyone isn't hyperbole, it's a fact because if you all don't adhere to restrictions when we inevitably open back up, then the possiblity of vaccine beating variants arising increases, sending us back to 2020.
We honestly don't know if covid-19 will evolve into something harmless or something worse, by all accounts though, not a single variant has had a lower mortality rate so the answer seems to be no, it won't get better.
And reinfections from variants have been happening quite frequently as natural immunity does not hold up as well as vacine induced immunity.
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