COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[Mmoney607]

well, given that u can be immune to it and still spread it, then in this case yeah, its not all that. most u will get is heard immune to going to hospital

Lol so True ...

The statement that Unvaccinated people are a danger is only half the truth ...

The real statement is ... Unvaccinated and Vaccinated people are a danger.
Since they are both spreaders.

Why people still saying that unvaccinated people less likely to spread?

[drchaos]

for arguments sake

if you take 100 vaxxed trinis and 100 unvaxxed trinis and let them loose in florida to be in a high covid environment
what would the outcomes of the two groups be ?

how many and how long would those in either group get covid for?
we know 2-3 of the unvaxxed will die for sure

That's the case fatality rate, which means you have to have caught it plus be detected.

The infection fatality rate is your actual chance of dying if you caught it.
which is can be less than 1% and some stats even show it to be as low as 0.09%

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Nothing will happen to healthy young people.

That is not true.
And so far there is not enough data on the long-term effects of Covid.

[Mmoney607]

America has started booster shots. How they now know people need booster shots?

If someone who fully vaccinated gets infected, when they recover do they need to get vaccinated again?

[Mmoney607]

Nothing will happen to healthy young people.

That is not true.
And so far there is not enough data on the long-term effects of Covid.

Just like the data they have on the long term effects of the vaccine.

[drchaos]

Nothing will happen to healthy young people.

That is not true.
And so far there is not enough data on the long-term effects of Covid.

Just like the data they have on the long term effects of the vaccine.

Smack down!

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Nothing will happen to healthy young people.

That is not true.
And so far there is not enough data on the long-term effects of Covid.

Just like the data they have on the long term effects of the vaccine.

Or of strawmen and red herrings

[RedVEVO]

This is hoping that no new variants emerge

so if covid here to stay and will be around for now on you telling me that every time i get the flu i will have to take a pcr test of covid test and get 14-21 days home no matter if i get the normal flu, dengue, chick v, chicken pox or malju ?

when enough ppl get immune either through vaccination or natural infection AND hospitalizations fall dramatically and stay so for months despite relaxation of all covid restrictions then perhaps not. that might be a couple years from now.

that's why getting vaccinated asap is critical worldwide. wherever covid is spreading unchecked increases the chance of variants.

Oh gosh man. I know I would've had to post this again

Herd immunity a ‘mythical’ goal that will never be reached, says Oxford vaccine head

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

“But we know very clearly with the coronavirus that the delta variant will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus.”

[aaron17]

This is hoping that no new variants emerge

so if covid here to stay and will be around for now on you telling me that every time i get the flu i will have to take a pcr test of covid test and get 14-21 days home no matter if i get the normal flu, dengue, chick v, chicken pox or malju ?

when enough ppl get immune either through vaccination or natural infection AND hospitalizations fall dramatically and stay so for months despite relaxation of all covid restrictions then perhaps not. that might be a couple years from now.

that's why getting vaccinated asap is critical worldwide. wherever covid is spreading unchecked increases the chance of variants.

Oh gosh man. I know I would've had to post this again

Herd immunity a ‘mythical’ goal that will never be reached, says Oxford vaccine head

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

“But we know very clearly with the coronavirus that the delta variant will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus.”

And that is why vaccinated ppl will play d azz...wearing no mask/improperly around ppl as if they are superior.

[RedVEVO]

This is hoping that no new variants emerge

so if covid here to stay and will be around for now on you telling me that every time i get the flu i will have to take a pcr test of covid test and get 14-21 days home no matter if i get the normal flu, dengue, chick v, chicken pox or malju ?

when enough ppl get immune either through vaccination or natural infection AND hospitalizations fall dramatically and stay so for months despite relaxation of all covid restrictions then perhaps not. that might be a couple years from now.

that's why getting vaccinated asap is critical worldwide. wherever covid is spreading unchecked increases the chance of variants.

Oh gosh man. I know I would've had to post this again

Herd immunity a ‘mythical’ goal that will never be reached, says Oxford vaccine head

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

“But we know very clearly with the coronavirus that the delta variant will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus.”

And that is why vaccinated ppl will play d azz...wearing no mask/improperly around ppl as if they are superior.

Another unvaccinated idiot roams and lurks

Go get vaccinated and then join the Superior Peeps

You basically protect YOU since if you get COVID and you weak physically or over 40 years - YOU may die.

1,151 deaths already in T&T and for T&T's population this is a dramatic alarming tragedy

[hover11]

1151 out of 40k cases....over 30k recovered why not highlight that?

This is hoping that no new variants emerge

so if covid here to stay and will be around for now on you telling me that every time i get the flu i will have to take a pcr test of covid test and get 14-21 days home no matter if i get the normal flu, dengue, chick v, chicken pox or malju ?

when enough ppl get immune either through vaccination or natural infection AND hospitalizations fall dramatically and stay so for months despite relaxation of all covid restrictions then perhaps not. that might be a couple years from now.

that's why getting vaccinated asap is critical worldwide. wherever covid is spreading unchecked increases the chance of variants.

Oh gosh man. I know I would've had to post this again

Herd immunity a ‘mythical’ goal that will never be reached, says Oxford vaccine head

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

“But we know very clearly with the coronavirus that the delta variant will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus.”

And that is why vaccinated ppl will play d azz...wearing no mask/improperly around ppl as if they are superior.

Another unvaccinated idiot roams and lurks

Go get vaccinated and then join the Superior Peeps

You basically protect YOU since if you get COVID and you weak physically or over 40 years - YOU may die.

1,151 deaths already in T&T and for T&T's population this is a dramatic alarming tragedy

[adnj]

1151 out of 40k cases....over 30k recovered why not highlight that?

This is hoping that no new variants emerge

when enough ppl get immune either through vaccination or natural infection AND hospitalizations fall dramatically and stay so for months despite relaxation of all covid restrictions then perhaps not. that might be a couple years from now.

that's why getting vaccinated asap is critical worldwide. wherever covid is spreading unchecked increases the chance of variants.

Oh gosh man. I know I would've had to post this again

Herd immunity a ‘mythical’ goal that will never be reached, says Oxford vaccine head

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

“But we know very clearly with the coronavirus that the delta variant will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus.”

And that is why vaccinated ppl will play d azz...wearing no mask/improperly around ppl as if they are superior.

Another unvaccinated idiot roams and lurks

Go get vaccinated and then join the Superior Peeps

You basically protect YOU since if you get COVID and you weak physically or over 40 years - YOU may die.

1,151 deaths already in T&T and for T&T's population this is a dramatic alarming tragedy

For what purpose? What are you trying to accomplish here? Most people don't need affirmation to get or refuse vaccination.

But you seem to pushing really hard to get an opinion echo.

[hover11]

No bro if you stating facts don't just state half to support your opinions...state the full facts that's all....recoveries outweigh deaths by a large percentage. For the ppl that are on the fence and looking on they need to see you have a high chance of survival even without the vaccine, if you have co morbidities hiv,diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity etc consult with your MD and make your choice to be vaccinated

1151 out of 40k cases....over 30k recovered why not highlight that?

This is hoping that no new variants emerge

that's why getting vaccinated asap is critical worldwide. wherever covid is spreading unchecked increases the chance of variants.

Oh gosh man. I know I would've had to post this again

Herd immunity a ‘mythical’ goal that will never be reached, says Oxford vaccine head

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

“But we know very clearly with the coronavirus that the delta variant will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus.”

And that is why vaccinated ppl will play d azz...wearing no mask/improperly around ppl as if they are superior.

Another unvaccinated idiot roams and lurks

Go get vaccinated and then join the Superior Peeps

You basically protect YOU since if you get COVID and you weak physically or over 40 years - YOU may die.

1,151 deaths already in T&T and for T&T's population this is a dramatic alarming tragedy

For what purpose? What are you trying to accomplish here? Most people don't need affirmation to get or refuse vaccination.

But you seem to pushing really hard to get an opinion echo.

[sMASH]

1151 out of 40k cases....over 30k recovered why not highlight that?

This is hoping that no new variants emerge

that's why getting vaccinated asap is critical worldwide. wherever covid is spreading unchecked increases the chance of variants.

Oh gosh man. I know I would've had to post this again

Herd immunity a ‘mythical’ goal that will never be reached, says Oxford vaccine head

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

“But we know very clearly with the coronavirus that the delta variant will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus.”

And that is why vaccinated ppl will play d azz...wearing no mask/improperly around ppl as if they are superior.

Another unvaccinated idiot roams and lurks

Go get vaccinated and then join the Superior Peeps

You basically protect YOU since if you get COVID and you weak physically or over 40 years - YOU may die.

1,151 deaths already in T&T and for T&T's population this is a dramatic alarming tragedy

For what purpose? What are you trying to accomplish here? Most people don't need affirmation to get or refuse vaccination.

But you seem to pushing really hard to get an opinion echo.

34k of the 41k that was detected. a lot more people had it and got over it than would have been detected.

thats good enough odds to not inject a chemical in ur body that doesnt have a long track record.
from the onset of this thing, all the procedure was able to avoid covid, could just continue doing the same tings in the same places, cause it helping to keep away the flu too.

once we have a choice, we good to go. and if we go, that is we problem.

[adnj]

No bro if you stating facts don't just state half to support your opinions...state the full facts that's all....recoveries outweigh deaths by a large percentage. For the ppl that are on the fence and looking on they need to see you have a high chance of survival even without the vaccine, if you have co morbidities hiv,diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity etc consult with your MD and make your choice to be vaccinated

1151 out of 40k cases....over 30k recovered why not highlight that?

that's why getting vaccinated asap is critical worldwide. wherever covid is spreading unchecked increases the chance of variants.

Oh gosh man. I know I would've had to post this again

Herd immunity a ‘mythical’ goal that will never be reached, says Oxford vaccine head

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

“But we know very clearly with the coronavirus that the delta variant will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus.”

And that is why vaccinated ppl will play d azz...wearing no mask/improperly around ppl as if they are superior.

Another unvaccinated idiot roams and lurks

Go get vaccinated and then join the Superior Peeps

You basically protect YOU since if you get COVID and you weak physically or over 40 years - YOU may die.

1,151 deaths already in T&T and for T&T's population this is a dramatic alarming tragedy

For what purpose? What are you trying to accomplish here? Most people don't need affirmation to get or refuse vaccination.

But you seem to pushing really hard to get an opinion echo.

1151 out of 40k cases....over 30k recovered why not highlight that?

that's why getting vaccinated asap is critical worldwide. wherever covid is spreading unchecked increases the chance of variants.

Oh gosh man. I know I would've had to post this again

Herd immunity a ‘mythical’ goal that will never be reached, says Oxford vaccine head

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... d-vaccine/

“But we know very clearly with the coronavirus that the delta variant will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus.”

And that is why vaccinated ppl will play d azz...wearing no mask/improperly around ppl as if they are superior.

Another unvaccinated idiot roams and lurks

Go get vaccinated and then join the Superior Peeps

You basically protect YOU since if you get COVID and you weak physically or over 40 years - YOU may die.

1,151 deaths already in T&T and for T&T's population this is a dramatic alarming tragedy

For what purpose? What are you trying to accomplish here? Most people don't need affirmation to get or refuse vaccination.

But you seem to pushing really hard to get an opinion echo.

34k of the 41k that was detected. a lot more people had it and got over it than would have been detected.

thats good enough odds to not inject a chemical in ur body that doesnt have a long track record.
from the onset of this thing, all the procedure was able to avoid covid, could just continue doing the same tings in the same places, cause it helping to keep away the flu too.

once we have a choice, we good to go. and if we go, that is we problem.

Neither one of you are stating facts.

You're regurgitating conjecture.

You're highlighting risks and mitigating benenefits.

You are both here consistently making the same argument that only presents the side of vaccination as a serious health risk.

You are both arguing that there needs to be a balanced conversation while never having a balanced conversation.

You both exhibit the same behavior post after post, thread after thread.

So, again:

For what purpose? What are you trying to accomplish here? Most people don't need affirmation to get or refuse vaccination.

But you seem to be pushing really hard to get an opinion echo.

[Dohplaydat]

Anti-vaxxers prefer to think covid is mild and as such, they would continuously quote a 99% survival rate saying it's safe. Completely forgetting that 5-10% have to be hospitalized and will have long-term recoveries and might never regain their full strength. They will ignore any study (and there are countless) that show even asymptomatic covid leaves lasting damage on the body. Also completely ignoring that due to its high infection rate, hospitals get overwhelmed.

Anti-vaxxers DO NOT use logic because they fail to see that the low vaccination rates will just prolong the pandemic and lead to more lockdowns and restrictions.

The anti-vaxxers I know IRL fall into 3 camps:
1. Neckbeard edge lords who just want to see chaos and everything fall apart around them because they've failed at life and want others to join them.
2. Loser weed men or natural herbalists who are literally some of the stupidest people I know
3. cats who either fraid injections or have some fear of new things.

[K74T]

[teems1]

The deeply religious from those small churches seem to have large number of anti vax persons.

Also staunch UNC who follow Kamla's every word.

I see Kamla took the AZ. Maybe her dumb supporters will follow now.

[sMASH]

how does not taking the vaccine affect u all? cause u still need all the precautions of before the vaccine, even if u got vaccinated.

all the vaccine is doing is saving ur own self. vax, wear ur mask and dont do business with anyone who not vaxed.

bring the vax pass port and chill

[widdyphuck]

Is the Pfizer vaccine only for children?
I want that vaccine.

[pugboy]

so how do the antivaxxers see the way forward?
do they think things will suddenly get better and the virus will go away?
or are they happy with the new normal restricted way of life?

Anti-vaxxers prefer to think covid is mild and as such, they would continuously quote a 99% survival rate saying it's safe. Completely forgetting that 5-10% have to be hospitalized and will have long-term recoveries and might never regain their full strength. They will ignore any study (and there are countless) that show even asymptomatic covid leaves lasting damage on the body. Also completely ignoring that due to its high infection rate, hospitals get overwhelmed.

Anti-vaxxers DO NOT use logic because they fail to see that the low vaccination rates will just prolong the pandemic and lead to more lockdowns and restrictions.

The anti-vaxxers I know IRL fall into 3 camps:
1. Neckbeard edge lords who just want to see chaos and everything fall apart around them because they've failed at life and want others to join them.
2. Loser weed men or natural herbalists who are literally some of the stupidest people I know
3. cats who either fraid injections or have some fear of new things.

[sMASH]

Is the Pfizer vaccine only for children?
I want that vaccine.

300k doses right now, 900k doses expected. enough for for all first and second of all chirren, so it will have remain over . is who they will offer it to, when it remains. i thinking their minstry staff.

on another note, one fo the american vaccines, i think moderna,,,, cant remember which, is developing specifically for the delta right now. so expect delta specific in a couple months.
and then u will get ur boosters to meet the variants, and then it will become just like flu and cold.

[PariaMan]

Regrets

[hover11]

Alot of parents on fb saying they not giving their children pfizer some willing to give the ones 16 and over

[DMan7]

My mom's uncle passed away 2 days ago from covid, he had taken only 1 shot of the sinopharm. Get your both shots people!

[justheretoreadthecomments]

how does not taking the vaccine affect u all? cause u still need all the precautions of before the vaccine, even if u got vaccinated.

all the vaccine is doing is saving ur own self. vax, wear ur mask and dont do business with anyone who not vaxed.

bring the vax pass port and chill

Exactly, I got my vaccine to protect MYSELF from Covid, and I do not care if the person next to me is vaccinated or not... because if the vaccines work as well as they say they do, I can still become infected and still spread Covid, however the severity (if any) of the symptoms will differ. Its a personal protection plan to some extent.

With regard to the vaccine passport, I think that once a person's medical situation would allow for it, persons should be vaccinated to protect THEMSELVES against the virus, however, I disagree with the approach to have only unvaccinated persons having to fork out approximately $3000TTD per month on PCR Tests as anyone, vaccinated or not can spread the virus. Maybe this is the business sector way of pushing for staff to be vaccinated but what about those who simply cannot take it? Would reasonable accommodation be given in such cases? Anyway, my view is that incentives and public education > punishment for vaccine hesitancy (with acknowledgment that the "vaccine hesitant" and "anti-vaccine" is not synonymous).

[adnj]

Is the Pfizer vaccine only for children?
I want that vaccine.

98% survival rate. No need to vaccinate. Remember?

Eat healthy. Drink some juice.

*the level of sarcasm can't be described*

#fukinpopuphypocrit

[hover11]

You know it had ppl who contracted covid and didn't even know they had it right both gamma and Wuhan....soon yea 98 percent chance survival...they highlight the hospitalizations

Is the Pfizer vaccine only for children?
I want that vaccine.

98% survival rate. No need to vaccinate. Remember?

Eat healthy. Drink some juice.

*the level of sarcasm can't be described*

#fukinpopuphypocrit

[Dohplaydat]

so how do the antivaxxers see the way forward?
do they think things will suddenly get better and the virus will go away?
or are they happy with the new normal restricted way of life?

Anti-vaxxers prefer to think covid is mild and as such, they would continuously quote a 99% survival rate saying it's safe. Completely forgetting that 5-10% have to be hospitalized and will have long-term recoveries and might never regain their full strength. They will ignore any study (and there are countless) that show even asymptomatic covid leaves lasting damage on the body. Also completely ignoring that due to its high infection rate, hospitals get overwhelmed.

Anti-vaxxers DO NOT use logic because they fail to see that the low vaccination rates will just prolong the pandemic and lead to more lockdowns and restrictions.

The anti-vaxxers I know IRL fall into 3 camps:
1. Neckbeard edge lords who just want to see chaos and everything fall apart around them because they've failed at life and want others to join them.
2. Loser weed men or natural herbalists who are literally some of the stupidest people I know
3. cats who either fraid injections or have some fear of new things.

I have asked and the most likely answer you'll get is remove lockdowns and who dead dead. They'll say it's only the old and sick dying and the rest of the population will get natural immunity. They will use Sweden as an example, though they forget that while Sweden didn't mandate much regulations, however most of the population adhered to public health recommendations so they were pretty much like every other country in terms of adherence to guidelines.

And also their death rate is twice ours so there are costs to do.

Even economic arguements don't hold up because if a deadly virus is raging no one goes out to dinner, lime and shop as much.

Your best solution is vaccination by far. Vaccines have save our assess for a century, yet for some reason (stupid ppl propaganda) they've become loaded with trepidation.

[Dohplaydat]

You know it had ppl who contracted covid and didn't even know they had it right both gamma and Wuhan....soon yea 98 percent chance survival...they highlight the hospitalizations

Is the Pfizer vaccine only for children?
I want that vaccine.

98% survival rate. No need to vaccinate. Remember?

Eat healthy. Drink some juice.

*the level of sarcasm can't be described*

#fukinpopuphypocrit

Asymptomatic doesn't mean you got off with no longer term effects.

My friend's wife in California (who is a Trini) is part of study examining children who got Covid (almost always asymptomatic) and they're noticing decreased lung capacity, worse blood sugar levels and slower congnition in many. It's a big study that when released will be very very impactful on policy going forward so they aren't releasing the preprint.

Regardless if these effects are temporary or not (too soon to conclude) cognitive impairment at an age when you're supposed to be learning can set you back for life.

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/07/96501401 ... 8867905833