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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 40104 cases, 1129 deaths, 5966 active, 33009 recovered in T&T

Postby hover11 » August 11th, 2021, 4:43 pm

Delta is a whole new game that was months ago and we didn't have quality vaccines to begin with tbh ....sinopharm will be put to the test. We should also make law as to mask wearing now as delta surges that cloth masks are not enough we need surgical or N95
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hover11 wrote:I foresee roll backs when delta emerges more, regardless of vaccinations....vaccinated aren't dying from the virus but that doesn't mean they would not require hospitalization in some cases
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hover11 wrote:How is that irrelevant when less than 20 percent of our population is vaccinated
DMan7 wrote:The cases are irrelevant since we have vaccines those cases won't be hospitalized since the vaccines prevent hospitalization.


Why are we re-opening when the cases are rising? It's clear that the Ministry's policy is that vaccines are now available and that will now be the basis for everything going forward. Those number of cases are not important if they don't require hospitalization, since it can cause the health system to collapse. That will only happen if everyone gets vaccinated to prevent hospitalization.


We had less cases than what we are getting now a few months ago and we went on lockdown. The difference between now and a few months ago is that we have vaccines and that is what the Ministry is using as the basis for re-opening and no more lockdowns. It's now the burden of responsibility lies in society to go get vaccinated.

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Postby widdyphuck » August 11th, 2021, 4:43 pm

All dem cases today...wtf going on.. we right back where we started.

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Postby hover11 » August 11th, 2021, 4:44 pm

We literally opened back with the same number of cases before the lockdown what do you think was going to happen
wtf wrote:All dem cases today...wtf going on.. we right back where we started.

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Postby elec2020 » August 11th, 2021, 4:52 pm

^ said it before and I will say it again. Our leaders have really let us down. I foresee lockdowns starting back up ending September. Just in time for the national budget.

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Postby pugboy » August 11th, 2021, 5:03 pm

vaxxed positives are counted in there ?

DMan7 wrote:The cases are irrelevant since we have vaccines those cases won't be hospitalized since the vaccines prevent hospitalization.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 11th, 2021, 5:05 pm

pugboy wrote:vaxxed positives are counted in there ?

Yes

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Postby bluefete » August 11th, 2021, 5:20 pm

A man says his father, mother, and brother all died of COVID-19 after getting 'caught up' in anti-vaccination claims and refusing to get the shot
Marianne Guenot
Tue, August 10, 2021, 6:44 AM


https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-says-fat ... 57989.html

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Postby pugboy » August 11th, 2021, 5:22 pm

are they gonna start providing those numbers ?
it might be dodgy using verbal info from a person to say if yes/no they were vaxxed

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pugboy wrote:vaxxed positives are counted in there ?

Yes

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Postby elec2020 » August 11th, 2021, 5:25 pm

pugboy wrote:are they gonna start providing those numbers ?
it might be dodgy using verbal info from a person to say if yes/no they were vaxxed

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pugboy wrote:vaxxed positives are counted in there ?

Yes


most likely yes. To ramp up the narrative that unvaccinated bad.

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Postby bluefete » August 11th, 2021, 5:28 pm

Ministry does not give breakdowns.

Easier to massage the figures.

Will everyone on the flight now be made to mandatory quarantine under state control?

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Postby MaxPower » August 11th, 2021, 5:38 pm

Team,

The Delta is here as we know. WHAT is being done about ineffective masks and sanitizers?

There are just TOO many loopholes with PCR tests, quarantines and vaccines.

We must focus on controlling the spread of germs from person to person and a strict emphasis MUST be applied to our Personal Protective Equipment (PPE).

We are heading right back to wear we started if we are yet again incapable of controlling the spread.

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Postby j.o.e » August 11th, 2021, 6:22 pm

Vaccines are here and available. I feel no sympathy for an unvaccinated adult

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Postby Dohplaydat » August 11th, 2021, 6:23 pm

j.o.e wrote:Vaccines are here and available. I feel no sympathy for an unvaccinated adult


If Facebook comments are too be believed, half the country appears anti vax.

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Postby hover11 » August 11th, 2021, 6:25 pm

400k willing to take the vax , 200k on the fence and 400k will never take the vaccine based on MFO
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j.o.e wrote:Vaccines are here and available. I feel no sympathy for an unvaccinated adult


If Facebook comments are too be believed, half the country appears anti vax.

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Postby elec2020 » August 11th, 2021, 6:37 pm

j.o.e wrote:Vaccines are here and available. I feel no sympathy for an unvaccinated adult


sounds like u wishing ill-harm on people. Wow

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Postby redmanjp » August 11th, 2021, 6:51 pm

hover11 wrote:How is the ventilation in an airplane if they coughed without their masks on for some reason or sneezed wouldn't the ppl close to them be subject to the virus
pugboy wrote:are they contact tracing nearby seated passengers like before or we not bothering with that as the “virus already here”

hover11 wrote:How many persons would they have spread this to while on the plane?


if they coughed without their masks with this delta variant the whole plane at risk- not just ones close by. first of all a cough alone with any variant travels several feet, don't feel it stopping at 6 feet. secondly, viral loads are >1000 times that of the original strain :shock: . that whole plane should be tested.

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Postby hover11 » August 11th, 2021, 7:00 pm

Actually the fact that they were unvaccinated means that they went into quarantine automatically on arrival. If they were in fact vaccinated then they would have been amongst the population spreading it. Just a different perspective for you to indulge in
PariaMan wrote:Unvaccinated people again causing problems

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Postby widdyphuck » August 11th, 2021, 7:03 pm

Forget the delta variant for a while. Are you guys seeing 315 cases today?
That will easily reach 500..

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Postby sMASH » August 11th, 2021, 7:07 pm

wtf wrote:Forget the delta variant for a while. Are you guys seeing 315 cases today?
That will easily reach 500..

well more places open up and vaccine sites running like market in rain... some of them. u will get a bump. once the deaths remain low, all is acceptable.

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Postby widdyphuck » August 11th, 2021, 7:10 pm

sMASH wrote:
wtf wrote:Forget the delta variant for a while. Are you guys seeing 315 cases today?
That will easily reach 500..

well more places open up and vaccine sites running like market in rain... some of them. u will get a bump. once the deaths remain low, all is acceptable.
More cases = More Deaths. Retailers set to open Monday 16th and cases gone back up.
Things not looking good.

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Postby hover11 » August 11th, 2021, 7:12 pm

It would be lundacris to open a mall with these numbers tbh
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sMASH wrote:
wtf wrote:Forget the delta variant for a while. Are you guys seeing 315 cases today?
That will easily reach 500..

well more places open up and vaccine sites running like market in rain... some of them. u will get a bump. once the deaths remain low, all is acceptable.
More cases = More Deaths. Retailers set to open Monday 16th and cases gone back up.
Things not looking good.

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 11th, 2021, 7:14 pm

So we giving the best vaccine to those with the lowest risk. But anyway plenty people who should've gotten from the 351000 pfizer doses made available since February done dead already.

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Postby sMASH » August 11th, 2021, 7:17 pm

hover11 wrote:It would be lundacris to open a mall with these numbers tbh
wtf wrote:
sMASH wrote:
wtf wrote:Forget the delta variant for a while. Are you guys seeing 315 cases today?
That will easily reach 500..

well more places open up and vaccine sites running like market in rain... some of them. u will get a bump. once the deaths remain low, all is acceptable.
More cases = More Deaths. Retailers set to open Monday 16th and cases gone back up.
Things not looking good.

we here are just stating the obvious. the govt knows and understands all this. but they still implemented the actions.

so, move away from asking 'how' and ask 'why'.

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Postby aaron17 » August 11th, 2021, 7:19 pm

MaxPower wrote:
aaron17 wrote:We know that vaccinated or not..you can still get the virus.
But the best bet of not getting it is to wear proper masks, social distance , wash hands and be in proper ventilated areas?


Hello aaron,

Yes that is the best bet.

Follow the protocols and you will be okay.
Cool

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Postby DMan7 » August 11th, 2021, 7:24 pm

People are not looking at the number of new daily cases in the context of where we are currently but where we were months ago. Where we are currently is having alot of vaccines to distribute to citizens who the burden of responsibility is placed on to get it and reduce hospitalizations and death. You can't look at the daily number of cases from the old context when we didn't have vaccines available.

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Postby MaxPower » August 11th, 2021, 7:30 pm

redmanjp wrote:
hover11 wrote:How is the ventilation in an airplane if they coughed without their masks on for some reason or sneezed wouldn't the ppl close to them be subject to the virus
pugboy wrote:are they contact tracing nearby seated passengers like before or we not bothering with that as the “virus already here”

hover11 wrote:How many persons would they have spread this to while on the plane?


if they coughed without their masks with this delta variant the whole plane at risk- not just ones close by. first of all a cough alone with any variant travels several feet, don't feel it stopping at 6 feet. secondly, viral loads are >1000 times that of the original strain :shock: . that whole plane should be tested.


Well whats the difference with them coughing without their masks and coughing with an ineffective mask on?

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Postby redmanjp » August 11th, 2021, 7:35 pm

sMASH wrote:
wtf wrote:Forget the delta variant for a while. Are you guys seeing 315 cases today?
That will easily reach 500..

well more places open up and vaccine sites running like market in rain... some of them. u will get a bump. once the deaths remain low, all is acceptable.


it could be more than just a lil bump unless vax rates dramatically go up like 15000 per day. and even so it takes 6 weeks for full protection with sino and 10 weeks for AZ- u have to include 2 weeks after the second shot, especially with sino.

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Postby j.o.e » August 11th, 2021, 7:46 pm

elec2020 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:Vaccines are here and available. I feel no sympathy for an unvaccinated adult


sounds like u wishing ill-harm on people. Wow


How is that wishing ill-harm? You have a viable option and made a decision that you’re at peace with. What am I supposed to do ?
I feel sorry for people who died before vaccines were available worldwide, or people who didn’t meet the criteria in the early days or minors.

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Postby aaron17 » August 11th, 2021, 9:08 pm

https://www.rt.com/news/531776-eu-inves ... ign=chrome

Well ...more side effects poppin up. Still beats being dead?

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 11th, 2021, 9:19 pm

aaron17 wrote:https://www.rt.com/news/531776-eu-investigating-side-effects-covid-vaccine/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

Well ...more side effects poppin up. Still beats being dead?

According to that news report 43 million doses of Moderna and 330 million doses of Pfizer in Europe saw just a few of these reactions.

A few = 3 cases?
Even if they had 100 of those very rare cases - that is 0.000027%
Compared to the 2% death rate globally
You are 74,000 times more likely to die from Covid than getting these sides effects from the Covid vaccines.

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