The Religion Discussion

[eitech]

^^ eitech. That above, is that correct?

Still at it huh? LOL. Carry on.

Yes or no would suffice. Just making it abundantly clear.

Hahahahahaha.

[matr1x]

What about zombie jesus?

Mary got pounded out and lied.

[meccalli]

Both Islam and Christianity fighting for first place in the atrocities Olympics.

And your napoleon example lacks credibility since the goal was never in the name of atheist.

For Christians, the rape, kill, and pillage in the name of christ.

Original sin, is original stupid.

What's the name of the God of atheism? Is atheism a structured organisation or a movement, maybe a religion you're a part of? I'm not sure if you're intentionally acting like an idiot or legitimately are one. Stalin had a God, his name was Stalin, likewise Napoleon. They were of their own authority, their acts were a product of their own intentions bolstered by their natural philosophy, that is atheism personified and bearing much fruit.

What lacks credibility is the statement in bold, #atheistlogic can't possibly degrade further into fantasy and absolute nonsense. If i were living in that alternate universe of yours, I could commit genocide in your name and the only logical conclusion we could draw, is that you're the one to blame for my actions.

And they say theists are deluded..here's irrefutable proof the opposite is true.

[sMASH]

A Muslim dude once said that what ever u dedicate ur life to doing, putting other things of for, that is ur god. U like to work and don't be home, work is ur god, u like to the if money, money is ur god, u like to drink rum, rundown down oman, gamble, or be intentionally vague and drawn out...

[De Dragon]

A Muslim dude once said that what ever u dedicate ur life to doing, putting other things of for, that is ur god. U like to work and don't be home, work is ur god, u like to the if money, money is ur god, u like to drink rum, rundown down oman, gamble, or be intentionally vague and drawn out...

Then Rowley is your God.

[megadoc1]

^^ eitech. That above, is that correct?

Still at it huh? LOL. Carry on.

Yes or no would suffice. Just making it abundantly clear.

Eitech I am glad you realise is that all he wants to do is put your thoughts against that of Meccalli's ,it have already been established that meccalli views comes from one of those reformist movement out of the usa
This is just another Muslim tactic


But he forgot in the days of AdamB the Muslim lunatic had him running out of this ched. Let him continue

[meccalli]

,it have already been established that meccalli views comes from one of those reformist movement out of the usa

Where do you think original sin gained it's footing? Augustine coined it and reformers luther and calvin defined and ran with it. Calvinism is a reformed tradition. I however get my theology from the Bible.
You familiar with limbo?
Here's Augustine for you,

5th century CE: St. Augustine of Hippo (354 - 430) convinced the Council of Carthage (418 CE) to reject the concept of limbo "of any place...in which children who pass out of this life unbaptized live in happiness." According to the Catholic Encyclopedia:

"St. Augustine and the African Fathers believed that unbaptized infants share in the common positive misery of the damned, and the very most that St. Augustine concedes is that their punishment is the mildest of all."

In countering Pelagius, Augustine was led to state that infants who die without Baptism are consigned to hell.
Cf. De pecc. mer. 1.16.21 (CSEL 60, 20f.) ; Sermo 294.3, Patrologia cursus completa, series latina (PL), J.P. MIGNE (ed.), 38, 1337; Contra Iulianum 5.11.44 (PL 44, 809).

I hope you're talking about smash with Adamb, we had extensive discussions. At least he walked the walk, I wonder if he's still alive.

[matr1x]

Atheist being a religious org, is as much as abstinence is a sex position.

[megadoc1]

,it have already been established that meccalli views comes from one of those reformist movement out of the usa

Where do you think original sin gained it's footing? Augustine coined it and reformers luther and calvin defined and ran with it. Calvinism is a reformed tradition. I however get my theology from the Bible.
You familiar with limbo?
Here's Augustine for you,

first the doctrine of original sin is just that a doctrine ,whether one believe in it or not. Does not affect ones salvation however we read that thru one man sin(adam) all became sinners
Romans 5
( 12When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned. 13Yes, people sinned even before the law was given. But it was not counted as sin because there was not yet any law to break. 14Still, everyone died—from the time of Adam to the time of Moses—even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol, a representation of Christ, who was yet to come. 15But there is a great difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gracious gift. For the sin of this one man, Adam, brought death to many. )

I hope you're talking about smash with Adamb, we had extensive discussions. At least he walked the walk, I wonder if he's still alive.

yes that's right smash was regularly blasted for his watered down western version of islam

[Kasey]

Ok i tink u should go back and edit cuz only u understood what u wrote.
Oh wait. Dont waste ur time. It not gonna make sense regardless

LOL. I understand why you don't understand. Nothing will make sense to you that you do not subscribe to.

[Kasey]

Atheist being a religious org, is as much as abstinence is a sex position.

He cannot fathom that the universe can well be infinite., and that's it.......

But he can fathom (or so he believes) God is infinite, and that's it............

[meccalli]

Atheist being a religious org, is as much as abstinence is a sex position.

Very original, did you learn to google recently? I hope you realise you're the one arguing in favour of it.

in the name of atheist.

[Kasey]

Atheist being a religious org, is as much as abstinence is a sex position.

Very original, did you learn to google recently? I hope you realise you're the one arguing in favour of it.

in the name of atheist.

Believing something does not exist, and not believing something exists, are two entirely different things. But a lot of people wouldn't get it.

Another thing, one doesn't need the belief in a God to be good and do good. You religious fundamentalists think that people need the belief and fear of god to do good, and that's the reason why you live your lives the way you do. For you its either reward or punishment from some being. You simply cannot fathom that atheists do good because they choose to.

Me? I am not an atheist, but I also do not be a good person because I think that I'm going to get religious points, I do good because I think it makes sense, and I believe that if everyone just pulls their own weight, we can actually survive happily on this small planet. On the other hand, I do not do bad because I fear punishment, I refrain from bad deeds because I don't think it makes logical sense, and I would not like to be on the receiving end (we as a people cannot survive happily if there is much wrong doing).

I don't hide behind verses and texts to defend my way of life, I use my own common sense.

Cheers.

[meccalli]

For you its either reward or punishment from some being. You simply cannot fathom that atheists do good because they choose to.

Once again, we see an example of someone who hasn't a clue of what they're arguing about because they don't understand the source material of their dissensions.

Christians don't do good either are they good by any definition you should choose. Jesus himself asked,
"Why do you call Me good?" Jesus replied. "No one is good except God alone. Luke 18:19

A so called 'Good work' are the works of God according to hebrew scripture, whether a theist or an atheist carries it out. It's God using him, to achieve his plan, whether you like it or not.

Paul goes as far as to refer to righteous works of self before God as ,'sheit', σκύβαλον skubalon in the greek, translators put it nicely as dung. Christians do good, because we are vessels for God's use, no one is justified before God because of what he's done, but what God has done through Christ's selflessness.

[Kasey]

For you its either reward or punishment from some being. You simply cannot fathom that atheists do good because they choose to.

Once again, we see an example of someone who hasn't a clue of what they're arguing about because they don't understand the source material of their dissensions.

Christians don't do good either are they good by any definition you should choose. Jesus himself asked,
"Why do you call Me good?" Jesus replied. "No one is good except God alone. Luke 18:19

A so called 'Good work' are the works of God according to hebrew scripture, whether a theist or an atheist carries it out. It's God using him, to achieve his plan, whether you like it or not.

Paul goes as far as to refer to righteous works of self before God as ,'sheit', σκύβαλον skubalon in the greek, translators put it nicely as dung. Christians do good, because we are vessels for God's use, no one is justified before God because of what he's done, but what God has done through Christ's selflessness.

So let me get this straight, I can't have an opinion unless I reference source material?

[matr1x]

If you want to feel protection. ..join the jehova witness protection program.


Explain this immaculate conception thing? Was piggy involved?

[timelapse]

If you want to feel protection. ..join the jehova witness protection program.


Explain this immaculate conception thing? Was piggy involved?

Speaking of Adam.He and his wife Eve had two boy chirren.They were the ONLY people on earth.Later in the bible it says that Cain killed Abel and moved out.Then he met his wife .Wey she come from?

[megadoc1]

^do a search in this very ched ,it have been discussed before or stop being lazy at least google what you asking here and educate yourself on the peoples beliefs/worldview

Explain this immaculate conception thing? Was piggy involved?

immaculate conception is simply Jesus being born free from the sin nature passed on thru man

immaculate:
adjective
1.
free from spot or stain; spotlessly clean:
immaculate linen.
2.
free from moral blemish or impurity; pure; undefiled.
3.
free from fault or flaw; free from errors:
an immaculate text.
4. Biology. having no spots or colored marks; unicolor.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/immaculate

[meccalli]

So let me get this straight, I can't have an opinion unless I reference source material?

You read my response and came up with this arbitrary question with regard to correlations between having an opinion and being ignorant of material you're addressing? If you have trouble differentiating between the two.

[eitech]

Wey boi all dis ackshun i miss today?

[matr1x]

^do a search in this very ched ,it have been discussed before or stop being lazy at least google what you asking here and educate yourself on the peoples beliefs/worldview

Explain this immaculate conception thing? Was piggy involved?

immaculate conception is simply Jesus being born free from the sin nature passed on thru man

immaculate:
adjective
1.
free from spot or stain; spotlessly clean:
immaculate linen.
2.
free from moral blemish or impurity; pure; undefiled.
3.
free from fault or flaw; free from errors:
an immaculate text.
4. Biology. having no spots or colored marks; unicolor.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/immaculate

If he was free from sin, did mary have labor pains?

Wait, don't you find it.weird that they give jesus.a white man complexion for someone born in middle.east??

Christianity : the religion where logic does not exist

[meccalli]

On another note, ^ here's a texbook example of what colonialism does to some, and boy did it do a number on him. Reads a dictionary definition of immaculate and thinks about white skin.

Logic of reckoning byzantine and renaissance artists as theologians and geneticists.

My brain: logic does not exist

[matr1x]

Lol, I do my own thinking. You require the bible to do yours.


Anyways, let's talk about Jews and Palestinian conflict. That is a fight that no one will win. Perood.

[sMASH]

^do a search in this very ched ,it have been discussed before or stop being lazy at least google what you asking here and educate yourself on the peoples beliefs/worldview

Explain this immaculate conception thing? Was piggy involved?

immaculate conception is simply Jesus being born free from the sin nature passed on thru man

immaculate:
adjective
1.
free from spot or stain; spotlessly clean:
immaculate linen.
2.
free from moral blemish or impurity; pure; undefiled.
3.
free from fault or flaw; free from errors:
an immaculate text.
4. Biology. having no spots or colored marks; unicolor.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/immaculate

Wait whut, wait whut

Where in the bible is there anything about immaculate concpeption?
And why are u associating it with jesus?

[megadoc1]

^do a search in this very ched ,it have been discussed before or stop being lazy at least google what you asking here and educate yourself on the peoples beliefs/worldview

Explain this immaculate conception thing? Was piggy involved?

immaculate conception is simply Jesus being born free from the sin nature passed on thru man

immaculate:
adjective
1.
free from spot or stain; spotlessly clean:
immaculate linen.
2.
free from moral blemish or impurity; pure; undefiled.
3.
free from fault or flaw; free from errors:
an immaculate text.
4. Biology. having no spots or colored marks; unicolor.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/immaculate

Wait whut, wait whut

Where in the bible is there anything about immaculate concpeption?
And why are u associating it with jesus?

seems like your difficulty is with the word immaculate lol ,if one is to look up Jewish custom ,to make atonement for sin would require one to get an animal without spot or blemish to sacrifice, all this was a shadow pointing towards the messiah to come , Jesus was the lamb of God to take away the sins of the world that's the significance of the virgin birth he need to be born without spot or blemish without fault without sin =immaculate
when john the baptist saw Jesus he said “Look! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

immaculate conception is a term coined ,based on what is gathered from the bible ,just as the doctrine of original sin,the deity of Christ or the concept of the trinity
its strange that muslims ask to see this in the bible yet they don't even believe what is written in the bible



immaculate:
adjective
1.
free from spot or stain; spotlessly clean:
immaculate linen.
2.
free from moral blemish or impurity; pure; undefiled.
3.
free from fault or flaw; free from errors:
an immaculate text.
4. Biology. having no spots or colored marks; unicolor.


con·cep·tion
kənˈsepSH(ə)n/
noun
noun: conception; plural noun: conceptions

1.
the action of conceiving a child or of a child being conceived.
"an unfertilized egg before conception"
synonyms: inception of pregnancy, conceiving, fertilization, impregnation, insemination
"from conception until natural death"
the forming or devising of a plan or idea.
"the time between a product's conception and its launch"
synonyms: inception, genesis, origination, creation, invention; More
beginning, origin
"the product's conception"
2.
the way in which something is perceived or regarded.
"our conception of how language relates to reality"


if you still have difficulty try it this way
was Jesus born? if yes conception took place
was he without sin? if yes immaculate
its that simple

[sMASH]

It wasn't in the bibel as it is a coined term, and that coined term is not in reference to Jesus

[megadoc1]

It wasn't in the bibel as it is a coined term, and that coined term is not in reference to Jesus

Stop, playing dunce

[sMASH]

It's a Catholic invention, pertaining to mary. To explain her suitability to bare the christ

[megadoc1]

It's a Catholic invention, pertaining to mary. To explain her suitability to bare the christ

Ok thanks for your input ,however the virgin birth is more about Jesus than it is about Mary , the scriptures teach that Jesus was without sin ,it also teaches that he was conceived however you want to put it you can't deny that the bible teaches such. I think even you in the past if I am not mistaken try to argue against Jesus sinless nature by claiming he disrespected his mother ,it is a common petty argument put fort by Muslims to discredit Jesus' sinless nature which plays a crucial role in his atonement for mankind

The view held by Catholic church is error
No where does the bible teach that Mary is without sin

[sMASH]

Conception and birth are different things