COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[st7]

She trusting flccc site

Show her this:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... 90108.html

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w

If she still insists, then you take your jab and let her take ivermectin whenever it is approved beyond clinical trials.

And then you will have some tough decisions to make.

Always remember that your health is your wealth.

but your wife has a knife--- wait i'm not helping here... sorry about that

[widdyphuck]

Reading an article that says 20% of all new COVID-19 cases across the US are children.
Definitely Not good.

[De Dragon]

also vaxxed persons if they get infected are sick much shorter timeframe

so less time to be spreadable and less strain on human resources being shutdown

but they don’t see it this way

they only studying vaxxed can still spread

Another thing, the more vacinated people are the less likely we are to develop new and dangerous variants.

Divide and conquer, vaccination style.

Well this is a new one from the anti vax camp.
Soldier there are many, many proven ways to divide people like race, religion politics etc. Why TF would BILLIONS of people create a pandemic to do what has been successfully done via other means for hundreds of years? Division Immunity?

In the psychology information vid I posted confirms what you are saying, mass psychosis.
In chess the pawns go first, your point is?

No one creates a vast conspiracy like a pandemic to divide already very divided people

[hover11]

Misdirection is a form of deception in which someone draws attention to one thing to distract it from another

also vaxxed persons if they get infected are sick much shorter timeframe

so less time to be spreadable and less strain on human resources being shutdown

but they don’t see it this way

they only studying vaxxed can still spread

Another thing, the more vacinated people are the less likely we are to develop new and dangerous variants.

Divide and conquer, vaccination style.

Well this is a new one from the anti vax camp.
Soldier there are many, many proven ways to divide people like race, religion politics etc. Why TF would BILLIONS of people create a pandemic to do what has been successfully done via other means for hundreds of years? Division Immunity?

In the psychology information vid I posted confirms what you are saying, mass psychosis.
In chess the pawns go first, your point is?

No one creates a vast conspiracy like a pandemic to divide already very divided people

[Carbon12]

Misdirection is a form of deception in which someone draws attention to one thing to distract it from another

also vaxxed persons if they get infected are sick much shorter timeframe

so less time to be spreadable and less strain on human resources being shutdown

but they don’t see it this way

they only studying vaxxed can still spread

Another thing, the more vacinated people are the less likely we are to develop new and dangerous variants.

Divide and conquer, vaccination style.

Well this is a new one from the anti vax camp.
Soldier there are many, many proven ways to divide people like race, religion politics etc. Why TF would BILLIONS of people create a pandemic to do what has been successfully done via other means for hundreds of years? Division Immunity?

In the psychology information vid I posted confirms what you are saying, mass psychosis.
In chess the pawns go first, your point is?

No one creates a vast conspiracy like a pandemic to divide already very divided people

The "pro" vaxxers basically saying best we take the vaccine to go back to having an utopian life. BS. As long as money is worth more than human life, there would be people who would only care about something once it benefits themselves. The economic divide HAS to come.

Once question to ask, do you all think this is natural or man made? I say bioengineered. I don't trust the people who stand to make billions from this. It's all about the $.

[hover11]

Multi billion dollar companies with more billions to come as booster shots are required and variants to ensure of that

Misdirection is a form of deception in which someone draws attention to one thing to distract it from another

also vaxxed persons if they get infected are sick much shorter timeframe

so less time to be spreadable and less strain on human resources being shutdown

but they don’t see it this way

they only studying vaxxed can still spread

Another thing, the more vacinated people are the less likely we are to develop new and dangerous variants.

Divide and conquer, vaccination style.

Well this is a new one from the anti vax camp.
Soldier there are many, many proven ways to divide people like race, religion politics etc. Why TF would BILLIONS of people create a pandemic to do what has been successfully done via other means for hundreds of years? Division Immunity?

In the psychology information vid I posted confirms what you are saying, mass psychosis.
In chess the pawns go first, your point is?

No one creates a vast conspiracy like a pandemic to divide already very divided people

The "pro" vaxxers basically saying best we take the vaccine to go back to having an utopian life. BS. As long as money is worth more than human life, there would be people who would only care about something once it benefits themselves. The economic divide HAS to come.

Once question to ask, do you all think this is natural or man made? I say bioengineered. I don't trust the people who stand to make billions from this. It's all about the $.

[aaron17]

She trusting flccc site

Show her this:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... 90108.html

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w

If she still insists, then you take your jab and let her take ivermectin whenever it is approved beyond clinical trials.

And then you will have some tough decisions to make.

Always remember that your health is your wealth.

Bro....we both went tru these articles long time and she say those things are downplaying the truth of ivermectin. She saying the best is still treatment as profalaxic/prevention and treatment.i am between a rock and a hard place.

[eitech]

Watch this video. Is she a conspiracy theory maniac or an ex employee with a grudge?

https://www.brighteon.com/4e0bdf1b-c0a8 ... 610fabcea7

[sucre251]

Bro....we both went tru these articles long time and she say those things are downplaying the truth of ivermectin. She saying the best is still treatment as profalaxic/prevention and treatment.i am between a rock and a hard place.

aaron17, in case you did not know, the entire Ivermectin has been a scam since day one.

https://www.sciencealert.com/ivermectin-study-controversy-is-a-huge-wake-up-call-for-fraud-in-covid-19-science
It is no exaggeration to say that this one paper caused thousands if not millions of people to get ivermectin to treat and/or prevent COVID-19.

A few days ago, the study was retracted amid accusations of fraud and plagiarism. A masters student who had been assigned to read the paper as part of his degree noticed that the entire introduction appeared to be copied from earlier scientific papers, and further analysis revealed that the study's datasheet posted online by the authors contained obvious irregularities.

Common sense alone would tell medical professionals that it does not make sense to treat a virus with worm medicine. A lot of doctors supporting Ivermectin don't seem to have any critical thinking beyond their clinical skills. The FDA has repeatedly stated that Ivermectin is not approved to treat covid and it does not work. All the subsequent trails and studies have been unfaithful to science based on the initial lie in the first paper that made those claims, a paper now shown to be full of plagiarism and unscientific data sets. Sort of like how Andrew Wakefield published in 1998 how vaccines are linked to Autism which never made any sense, and many other doctors ran trials and agreed with him. 10 years later he was discovered to be a complete fraud and scammer and was stricken off the medical registry. But the damage he did still lingers in the modern anti-vaxx movement today.

[hover11]

If Ivermectin was a solid cure why isn't it WHO approved

[De Dragon]

If Ivermectin was a solid cure why isn't it WHO approved

Look one post up from yours

[pugboy]

at least she could pick up anything from the ground and eat it without fear of getting worms

[st7]

Misdirection is a form of deception in which someone draws attention to one thing to distract it from another

also vaxxed persons if they get infected are sick much shorter timeframe

so less time to be spreadable and less strain on human resources being shutdown

but they don’t see it this way

they only studying vaxxed can still spread

Another thing, the more vacinated people are the less likely we are to develop new and dangerous variants.

Divide and conquer, vaccination style.

Well this is a new one from the anti vax camp.
Soldier there are many, many proven ways to divide people like race, religion politics etc. Why TF would BILLIONS of people create a pandemic to do what has been successfully done via other means for hundreds of years? Division Immunity?

In the psychology information vid I posted confirms what you are saying, mass psychosis.
In chess the pawns go first, your point is?

No one creates a vast conspiracy like a pandemic to divide already very divided people

The "pro" vaxxers basically saying best we take the vaccine to go back to having an utopian life. BS. As long as money is worth more than human life, there would be people who would only care about something once it benefits themselves. The economic divide HAS to come.

Once question to ask, do you all think this is natural or man made? I say bioengineered. I don't trust the people who stand to make billions from this. It's all about the $.

all of our opinions are not facts, even yours.

when you get covid and in the hospital - will you beg the doctors to save your life as u suffer?

[aaron17]

Bro....we both went tru these articles long time and she say those things are downplaying the truth of ivermectin. She saying the best is still treatment as profalaxic/prevention and treatment.i am between a rock and a hard place.

aaron17, in case you did not know, the entire Ivermectin has been a scam since day one.

https://www.sciencealert.com/ivermectin-study-controversy-is-a-huge-wake-up-call-for-fraud-in-covid-19-science
It is no exaggeration to say that this one paper caused thousands if not millions of people to get ivermectin to treat and/or prevent COVID-19.

A few days ago, the study was retracted amid accusations of fraud and plagiarism. A masters student who had been assigned to read the paper as part of his degree noticed that the entire introduction appeared to be copied from earlier scientific papers, and further analysis revealed that the study's datasheet posted online by the authors contained obvious irregularities.

Common sense alone would tell medical professionals that it does not make sense to treat a virus with worm medicine. A lot of doctors supporting Ivermectin don't seem to have any critical thinking beyond their clinical skills. The FDA has repeatedly stated that Ivermectin is not approved to treat covid and it does not work. All the subsequent trails and studies have been unfaithful to science based on the initial lie in the first paper that made those claims, a paper now shown to be full of plagiarism and unscientific data sets. Sort of like how Andrew Wakefield published in 1998 how vaccines are linked to Autism which never made any sense, and many other doctors ran trials and agreed with him. 10 years later he was discovered to be a complete fraud and scammer and was stricken off the medical registry. But the damage he did still lingers in the modern anti-vaxx movement today.

'The NIH currently does not have enough data to recommend for or against using ivermectin for COVID-19.' So they are neutral?
Taken from : https://www.goodrx.com/blog/coronavirus ... n-the-way/

[aaron17]

Compared to treatments....the vaccines are the better choice right? Or treatments work better? Need a good point to tell her. But she saying to me ..why they hiding the treatments and ppl dying.

[hover11]

Bro we not immortal you know that right? If that's how I am supposed to go then so be it...when it's your time it's your time no doctor could stop that, just like there were hundreds of thousands that got covid and lived with no medical intervention there were a minoritythat died

Misdirection is a form of deception in which someone draws attention to one thing to distract it from another

also vaxxed persons if they get infected are sick much shorter timeframe

so less time to be spreadable and less strain on human resources being shutdown

but they don’t see it this way

they only studying vaxxed can still spread

Divide and conquer, vaccination style.

Well this is a new one from the anti vax camp.
Soldier there are many, many proven ways to divide people like race, religion politics etc. Why TF would BILLIONS of people create a pandemic to do what has been successfully done via other means for hundreds of years? Division Immunity?

In the psychology information vid I posted confirms what you are saying, mass psychosis.
In chess the pawns go first, your point is?

No one creates a vast conspiracy like a pandemic to divide already very divided people

The "pro" vaxxers basically saying best we take the vaccine to go back to having an utopian life. BS. As long as money is worth more than human life, there would be people who would only care about something once it benefits themselves. The economic divide HAS to come.

Once question to ask, do you all think this is natural or man made? I say bioengineered. I don't trust the people who stand to make billions from this. It's all about the $.

all of our opinions are not facts, even yours.

when you get covid and in the hospital - will you beg the doctors to save your life as u suffer?

[Kenjo]

Compared to treatments....the vaccines are the better choice right? Or treatments work better? Need a good point to tell her. But she saying to me ..why they hiding the treatments and ppl dying.

Why can’t she use both . Tell her take the vaccine and use ivermectin too . It’s like my navara has a turbo . It can work quite well with the turbo but if you get to add a little extra umph then why not ?

[pugboy]

the narrative keeps changing though
the initial talk was vaccines were created bill gates to control the world via nanobots in the injection powered by 5g
why did that talk go dead now ?

now the main talk is vaxxed persons can spread just as well so vaccines are not necessary

[st7]

Bro we not immortal you know that right? If that's how I am supposed to go then so be it...when it's your time it's your time no doctor could stop that, just like there were hundreds of thousands that got covid and lived with no medical intervention there were a minoritythat died

Misdirection is a form of deception in which someone draws attention to one thing to distract it from another

Divide and conquer, vaccination style.

Well this is a new one from the anti vax camp.
Soldier there are many, many proven ways to divide people like race, religion politics etc. Why TF would BILLIONS of people create a pandemic to do what has been successfully done via other means for hundreds of years? Division Immunity?

In the psychology information vid I posted confirms what you are saying, mass psychosis.
In chess the pawns go first, your point is?

No one creates a vast conspiracy like a pandemic to divide already very divided people

The "pro" vaxxers basically saying best we take the vaccine to go back to having an utopian life. BS. As long as money is worth more than human life, there would be people who would only care about something once it benefits themselves. The economic divide HAS to come.

Once question to ask, do you all think this is natural or man made? I say bioengineered. I don't trust the people who stand to make billions from this. It's all about the $.

all of our opinions are not facts, even yours.

when you get covid and in the hospital - will you beg the doctors to save your life as u suffer?

no one asked you though...

[hover11]

You did though so I confused

Bro we not immortal you know that right? If that's how I am supposed to go then so be it...when it's your time it's your time no doctor could stop that, just like there were hundreds of thousands that got covid and lived with no medical intervention there were a minoritythat died

Misdirection is a form of deception in which someone draws attention to one thing to distract it from another

Well this is a new one from the anti vax camp.
Soldier there are many, many proven ways to divide people like race, religion politics etc. Why TF would BILLIONS of people create a pandemic to do what has been successfully done via other means for hundreds of years? Division Immunity?

In the psychology information vid I posted confirms what you are saying, mass psychosis.
In chess the pawns go first, your point is?

No one creates a vast conspiracy like a pandemic to divide already very divided people

The "pro" vaxxers basically saying best we take the vaccine to go back to having an utopian life. BS. As long as money is worth more than human life, there would be people who would only care about something once it benefits themselves. The economic divide HAS to come.

Once question to ask, do you all think this is natural or man made? I say bioengineered. I don't trust the people who stand to make billions from this. It's all about the $.

all of our opinions are not facts, even yours.

when you get covid and in the hospital - will you beg the doctors to save your life as u suffer?

no one asked you though...

[cornfused]

Think about this Covid is getting more easily transmitted. Why would one chose to be unvaccinated. Follow world news not old talk it just a matter of time for more variants to reach here.

[aaron17]

Compared to treatments....the vaccines are the better choice right? Or treatments work better? Need a good point to tell her. But she saying to me ..why they hiding the treatments and ppl dying.

Why can’t she use both . Tell her take the vaccine and use ivermectin too . It’s like my navara has a turbo . It can work quite well with the turbo but if you get to add a little extra umph then why not ?

She saying ivermectin is one of the safest drugs compared to the vaccine and was studied for years. What to say to that?

[De Dragon]

the narrative keeps changing though
the initial talk was vaccines were created bill gates to control the world via nanobots in the injection powered by 5g
why did that talk go dead now ?

now the main talk is vaxxed persons can spread just as well so vaccines are not necessary

Anti vaxxers like hover and Carbon keep shifting the goalposts:
If it didn't come too quick, it killing yuh, if it eh killing yuh, it hah long term effects
Now that their positions have been debunked, the new approach seem to be "well eef you vaccinated, why yuh beating up about me for?"

[hover11]

When schools reopen next month it will be very interesting, they couldn't keep the bathrooms clean, how are they going to disinfect the whole school daily ....would love to see that

the narrative keeps changing though
the initial talk was vaccines were created bill gates to control the world via nanobots in the injection powered by 5g
why did that talk go dead now ?

now the main talk is vaxxed persons can spread just as well so vaccines are not necessary

Anti vaxxers like hover and Carbon keep shifting the goalposts:
If it didn't come too quick, it killing yuh, if it eh killing yuh, it hah long term effects
Now that their positions have been debunked, the new approach seem to be "well eef you vaccinated, why yuh beating up about me for?"

[st7]

You did though so I confused

Bro we not immortal you know that right? If that's how I am supposed to go then so be it...when it's your time it's your time no doctor could stop that, just like there were hundreds of thousands that got covid and lived with no medical intervention there were a minoritythat died

Misdirection is a form of deception in which someone draws attention to one thing to distract it from another

In the psychology information vid I posted confirms what you are saying, mass psychosis.
In chess the pawns go first, your point is?

No one creates a vast conspiracy like a pandemic to divide already very divided people

The "pro" vaxxers basically saying best we take the vaccine to go back to having an utopian life. BS. As long as money is worth more than human life, there would be people who would only care about something once it benefits themselves. The economic divide HAS to come.

Once question to ask, do you all think this is natural or man made? I say bioengineered. I don't trust the people who stand to make billions from this. It's all about the $.

all of our opinions are not facts, even yours.

when you get covid and in the hospital - will you beg the doctors to save your life as u suffer?

no one asked you though...

are you carbon12?

[pugboy]

Yeah for worms, one of oldest drugs for that

Compared to treatments....the vaccines are the better choice right? Or treatments work better? Need a good point to tell her. But she saying to me ..why they hiding the treatments and ppl dying.

Why can’t she use both . Tell her take the vaccine and use ivermectin too . It’s like my navara has a turbo . It can work quite well with the turbo but if you get to add a little extra umph then why not ?

She saying ivermectin is one of the safest drugs compared to the vaccine and was studied for years. What to say to that?

[Kenjo]

Compared to treatments....the vaccines are the better choice right? Or treatments work better? Need a good point to tell her. But she saying to me ..why they hiding the treatments and ppl dying.

Why can’t she use both . Tell her take the vaccine and use ivermectin too . It’s like my navara has a turbo . It can work quite well with the turbo but if you get to add a little extra umph then why not ?

She saying ivermectin is one of the safest drugs compared to the vaccine and was studied for years. What to say to that?

It’s used by dermatologist . She understands they don’t know a precise dose as yet although I see people parading around with doses.so it’s more fear of the vaccine she has . That’s a tough one bro but hopefully you get through to her but no one is changing their mind . But hopefully if either of you get it you don’t transmit to older or immunocompromised persons that you around . Does she have parents that she is around ? Best case don’t be aggressive and once she has no contraindications to the vaccine let her double check with her general practitioner too

[Kenjo]

Compared to treatments....the vaccines are the better choice right? Or treatments work better? Need a good point to tell her. But she saying to me ..why they hiding the treatments and ppl dying.

Why can’t she use both . Tell her take the vaccine and use ivermectin too . It’s like my navara has a turbo . It can work quite well with the turbo but if you get to add a little extra umph then why not ?

She saying ivermectin is one of the safest drugs compared to the vaccine and was studied for years. What to say to that?

[redmanjp]

Compared to treatments....the vaccines are the better choice right? Or treatments work better? Need a good point to tell her. But she saying to me ..why they hiding the treatments and ppl dying.

Why can’t she use both . Tell her take the vaccine and use ivermectin too . It’s like my navara has a turbo . It can work quite well with the turbo but if you get to add a little extra umph then why not ?

She saying ivermectin is one of the safest drugs compared to the vaccine and was studied for years. What to say to that?

it could be safe but it's still not approved for treatment for covid- we don't have proper data from a large study to conclude it's effective -although smaller studies have shown some good effects. there was a shortage a few months ago. what happens if there is a shortage of ivermectin when she gets infected? especially when the delta variant comes and all the antivaxxers and vaccine hesitant rush for IVN?

the vaccines on the other hand have not only undergone large trials and proven to be effective- now half a year later hundreds of millions of ppl worldwide have taken them and it has shown real world effectiveness- and proven safe for 99.999% of ppl -it's only the 0.001% that have any serious adverse effect and any medicine will have rare adverse effects

so she should get vaccinated- right now depending on where she goes she has a choice between AZ and Sinopharm- and still take IVM if she wants. but prevention is better than cure and the vax only has to be taken twice, whereas ivm has to be taken regularly for prevention purposes

[Kenjo]

Compared to treatments....the vaccines are the better choice right? Or treatments work better? Need a good point to tell her. But she saying to me ..why they hiding the treatments and ppl dying.

Why can’t she use both . Tell her take the vaccine and use ivermectin too . It’s like my navara has a turbo . It can work quite well with the turbo but if you get to add a little extra umph then why not ?

She saying ivermectin is one of the safest drugs compared to the vaccine and was studied for years. What to say to that?

it could be safe but it's still not approved for treatment for covid- we don't have proper data from a large study to conclude it's effective -although smaller studies have shown some good effects. there was a shortage a few months ago. what happens if there is a shortage of ivermectin when she gets infected? especially when the delta variant comes and all the antivaxxers and vaccine hesitant rush for IVN?

the vaccines on the other hand have not only undergone large trials and proven to be effective- now half a year later hundreds of millions of ppl worldwide have taken them and it has shown real world effectiveness- and proven safe for 99.999% of ppl -it's only the 0.001% that have any serious adverse effect and any medicine will have rare adverse effects

so she should get vaccinated- right now depending on where she goes she has a choice between AZ and Sinopharm- and still take IVM if she wants. but prevention is better than cure and the vax only has to be taken twice, whereas ivm has to be taken regularly for prevention purposes

Have they even figured out how regularly I they have to take this thing ? Ask her who says she can’t take the ivermectin after she gets the vaccine when she mentions ‘ breakthrough ‘ infections . But nothing beats her going to see her GP