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bluesclues wrote:sMASH wrote:bluesclues wrote:let me give you a project to do.. if you not too lazy.
go through the bible, and make a list of all the positive things you gain from it. and make a list of all the negative things you gain from it. from the way you speak people will swear the bible only teaches negative things to humans.
anything you see as wisodm.. put it in your positive list
anything you see as hateful or other negative emotion put it in the negative list.
you will see for yourself how biased and unfair a judge you are. completely unsuitable to judge a God. because when you throw out that book, you throw out all the good in it with it.
and what it is.. all of them hating on God because they want the right to be able to bull man in the bottom and still get eternal life even though it acts contrary to God's universal intentions. when in this day under christianity, it hardly matters because again.. God will save who deserves to be saved individually from all who destroying the earth. check the stories.. God always lead his prophets away from the shite and everybody else who in they folly go down. one man build a ark, he try to save everybody and tell them build boats too.. they had no time for that.. but because they die is God fault. god tell them dont pray to idols and carvings, one man alone listen, God escort him out the region safely and then that region get the lix was coming to them. god say multiply to fill the earth and allyuh want to bull in bottom and do thing contrary to assisting in reproduction..prophet get escorted out of the region, fire and brimstone upon all who stay, and the wife looking back because she really wanted to take part in the nonsense too.. ok stay and take brimstone and become a pillar of calcium in the bare shape of a human ashed.
where the prophet was every time? safe. so know that even if the whole earth was to blow up... God people will get escorted off.. safe. because they listening, and trying. but you the atheist, you will not build the boat because is nonsense, so when the flood come you will drown. that is not God fault. is YOURS.
If it didn't have the flood...
Edit; Sry, who sent the flood...
All of we here ust renting. When landlord say, next Friday there will be fumagation services throughout the building between the hours of 9am and 2pm. It is your option to stay and breathe in the fumes and get fumagated with the roaches and mosquitoes if you so choose. I know, my arse will be finding something to do away from the compound during those times. Considering i got fair warning.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:bluesclues wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:bluesclues wrote:
Sounds to me like some invisible force that permeates spacetime. Also considering dead things have no intelligence then it would seem this life giving force also provides intelligence and/or awareness, in living creatures. .
"It can't be explained therefore God did it"
i dont remember mentioning God in that sentence anywhere. you should know you quoted it. but if it seems like and sounds like God to you too.. then i guess if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... or no? lol
Thanks for proving my point.
sMASH wrote:bluesclues wrote:sMASH wrote:bluesclues wrote:let me give you a project to do.. if you not too lazy.
go through the bible, and make a list of all the positive things you gain from it. and make a list of all the negative things you gain from it. from the way you speak people will swear the bible only teaches negative things to humans.
anything you see as wisodm.. put it in your positive list
anything you see as hateful or other negative emotion put it in the negative list.
you will see for yourself how biased and unfair a judge you are. completely unsuitable to judge a God. because when you throw out that book, you throw out all the good in it with it.
and what it is.. all of them hating on God because they want the right to be able to bull man in the bottom and still get eternal life even though it acts contrary to God's universal intentions. when in this day under christianity, it hardly matters because again.. God will save who deserves to be saved individually from all who destroying the earth. check the stories.. God always lead his prophets away from the shite and everybody else who in they folly go down. one man build a ark, he try to save everybody and tell them build boats too.. they had no time for that.. but because they die is God fault. god tell them dont pray to idols and carvings, one man alone listen, God escort him out the region safely and then that region get the lix was coming to them. god say multiply to fill the earth and allyuh want to bull in bottom and do thing contrary to assisting in reproduction..prophet get escorted out of the region, fire and brimstone upon all who stay, and the wife looking back because she really wanted to take part in the nonsense too.. ok stay and take brimstone and become a pillar of calcium in the bare shape of a human ashed.
where the prophet was every time? safe. so know that even if the whole earth was to blow up... God people will get escorted off.. safe. because they listening, and trying. but you the atheist, you will not build the boat because is nonsense, so when the flood come you will drown. that is not God fault. is YOURS.
If it didn't have the flood...
Edit; Sry, who sent the flood...
All of we here ust renting. When landlord say, next Friday there will be fumagation services throughout the building between the hours of 9am and 2pm. It is your option to stay and breathe in the fumes and get fumagated with the roaches and mosquitoes if you so choose. I know, my arse will be finding something to do away from the compound during those times. Considering i got fair warning.
Land lord killed the roaches, is still responsible for their deaths... roachicide.
Let me put it in a popular scenario:
If a woman goes to a bad neighborhood, dresses scantily, drinks herself drunk, and gets raped, who is guilty, the guy or the woman.
If i was a Christian i would leave this open and let u draw ur own conclusions... just quote it and wallow in my superiority.
But I will delve in and give an explanation,,,, which actually pertains to what I am speaking about.
No matter what the woman did, the guy still got the idea in his head to do the rape. He still committed the act of his own will. It will still be considered that they guy raped the wwoman
Just like the flood, no matter what what people did, no matter what warnings were issued, It would still be the god of the bible committing world wide genocide. Killing the entire world except for that few people on a leaky boat.
U are victim blaming.
Ur god killed men, women, children, animals, plants, dinosaurs. Why did he not send Jesus to save them?
... before he killed them, as he did.
He loves u so, he will take care of u, Jehovah has a plan.
bluesclues wrote:sMASH wrote:bluesclues wrote:sMASH wrote:bluesclues wrote:let me give you a project to do.. if you not too lazy.
go through the bible, and make a list of all the positive things you gain from it. and make a list of all the negative things you gain from it. from the way you speak people will swear the bible only teaches negative things to humans.
anything you see as wisodm.. put it in your positive list
anything you see as hateful or other negative emotion put it in the negative list.
you will see for yourself how biased and unfair a judge you are. completely unsuitable to judge a God. because when you throw out that book, you throw out all the good in it with it.
and what it is.. all of them hating on God because they want the right to be able to bull man in the bottom and still get eternal life even though it acts contrary to God's universal intentions. when in this day under christianity, it hardly matters because again.. God will save who deserves to be saved individually from all who destroying the earth. check the stories.. God always lead his prophets away from the shite and everybody else who in they folly go down. one man build a ark, he try to save everybody and tell them build boats too.. they had no time for that.. but because they die is God fault. god tell them dont pray to idols and carvings, one man alone listen, God escort him out the region safely and then that region get the lix was coming to them. god say multiply to fill the earth and allyuh want to bull in bottom and do thing contrary to assisting in reproduction..prophet get escorted out of the region, fire and brimstone upon all who stay, and the wife looking back because she really wanted to take part in the nonsense too.. ok stay and take brimstone and become a pillar of calcium in the bare shape of a human ashed.
where the prophet was every time? safe. so know that even if the whole earth was to blow up... God people will get escorted off.. safe. because they listening, and trying. but you the atheist, you will not build the boat because is nonsense, so when the flood come you will drown. that is not God fault. is YOURS.
If it didn't have the flood...
Edit; Sry, who sent the flood...
All of we here ust renting. When landlord say, next Friday there will be fumagation services throughout the building between the hours of 9am and 2pm. It is your option to stay and breathe in the fumes and get fumagated with the roaches and mosquitoes if you so choose. I know, my arse will be finding something to do away from the compound during those times. Considering i got fair warning.
Land lord killed the roaches, is still responsible for their deaths... roachicide.
Let me put it in a popular scenario:
If a woman goes to a bad neighborhood, dresses scantily, drinks herself drunk, and gets raped, who is guilty, the guy or the woman.
If i was a Christian i would leave this open and let u draw ur own conclusions... just quote it and wallow in my superiority.
But I will delve in and give an explanation,,,, which actually pertains to what I am speaking about.
No matter what the woman did, the guy still got the idea in his head to do the rape. He still committed the act of his own will. It will still be considered that they guy raped the wwoman
Just like the flood, no matter what what people did, no matter what warnings were issued, It would still be the god of the bible committing world wide genocide. Killing the entire world except for that few people on a leaky boat.
U are victim blaming.
Ur god killed men, women, children, animals, plants, dinosaurs. Why did he not send Jesus to save them?
... before he killed them, as he did.
He loves u so, he will take care of u, Jehovah has a plan.
If the landlord didnt kill the roaches by friday, on saturday a disease wouldve developed that spread to all the tenant their families and work colleagues and killed them.
Save the roaches?
matr1x wrote:It's not cherry picking. It's showing what the real face of religion looks like
sMASH wrote:bluesclues wrote:sMASH wrote:bluesclues wrote:sMASH wrote:bluesclues wrote:let me give you a project to do.. if you not too lazy.
go through the bible, and make a list of all the positive things you gain from it. and make a list of all the negative things you gain from it. from the way you speak people will swear the bible only teaches negative things to humans.
anything you see as wisodm.. put it in your positive list
anything you see as hateful or other negative emotion put it in the negative list.
you will see for yourself how biased and unfair a judge you are. completely unsuitable to judge a God. because when you throw out that book, you throw out all the good in it with it.
and what it is.. all of them hating on God because they want the right to be able to bull man in the bottom and still get eternal life even though it acts contrary to God's universal intentions. when in this day under christianity, it hardly matters because again.. God will save who deserves to be saved individually from all who destroying the earth. check the stories.. God always lead his prophets away from the shite and everybody else who in they folly go down. one man build a ark, he try to save everybody and tell them build boats too.. they had no time for that.. but because they die is God fault. god tell them dont pray to idols and carvings, one man alone listen, God escort him out the region safely and then that region get the lix was coming to them. god say multiply to fill the earth and allyuh want to bull in bottom and do thing contrary to assisting in reproduction..prophet get escorted out of the region, fire and brimstone upon all who stay, and the wife looking back because she really wanted to take part in the nonsense too.. ok stay and take brimstone and become a pillar of calcium in the bare shape of a human ashed.
where the prophet was every time? safe. so know that even if the whole earth was to blow up... God people will get escorted off.. safe. because they listening, and trying. but you the atheist, you will not build the boat because is nonsense, so when the flood come you will drown. that is not God fault. is YOURS.
If it didn't have the flood...
Edit; Sry, who sent the flood...
All of we here ust renting. When landlord say, next Friday there will be fumagation services throughout the building between the hours of 9am and 2pm. It is your option to stay and breathe in the fumes and get fumagated with the roaches and mosquitoes if you so choose. I know, my arse will be finding something to do away from the compound during those times. Considering i got fair warning.
Land lord killed the roaches, is still responsible for their deaths... roachicide.
Let me put it in a popular scenario:
If a woman goes to a bad neighborhood, dresses scantily, drinks herself drunk, and gets raped, who is guilty, the guy or the woman.
If i was a Christian i would leave this open and let u draw ur own conclusions... just quote it and wallow in my superiority.
But I will delve in and give an explanation,,,, which actually pertains to what I am speaking about.
No matter what the woman did, the guy still got the idea in his head to do the rape. He still committed the act of his own will. It will still be considered that they guy raped the wwoman
Just like the flood, no matter what what people did, no matter what warnings were issued, It would still be the god of the bible committing world wide genocide. Killing the entire world except for that few people on a leaky boat.
U are victim blaming.
Ur god killed men, women, children, animals, plants, dinosaurs. Why did he not send Jesus to save them?
... before he killed them, as he did.
He loves u so, he will take care of u, Jehovah has a plan.
If the landlord didnt kill the roaches by friday, on saturday a disease wouldve developed that spread to all the tenant their families and work colleagues and killed them.
Save the roaches?
God doesn't kill people; People kill people.
The flood. Who sent the flood?
matr1x wrote:Lol. There was no great flood.
Let's try this, "god, show up and educate these people. "
No, still nothing.
Must be busy for corpus christi
sMASH wrote:The only good logic is biblical logic,
Tell us anything else we'll get vex vex vex.
Disclaimer: No aliens were affected in delivering salvation to The world.
sMASH wrote:Biblical logic: god is luv... drowns all the women and children in the world.
matr1x wrote:The problem is the delusional thinking that God exists in real rather than a fictional character in a story.
I am not requesting god's presence. I am demanding it. But since we all know that he is as real as Santa Claus, no one holding breath.
You want proof of lack of reality when it comes to religion? Visit a baby with a degenerate disease. Any celestial being that is cool with that isn't something good.
matr1x wrote:The problem is the delusional thinking that God exists in real rather than a fictional character in a story.
I am not requesting god's presence. I am demanding it. But since we all know that he is as real as Santa Claus, no one holding breath.
You want proof of lack of reality when it comes to religion? Visit a baby with a degenerate disease. Any celestial being that is cool with that isn't something good.
bluesclues wrote:matr1x wrote:The problem is the delusional thinking that God exists in real rather than a fictional character in a story.
I am not requesting god's presence. I am demanding it. But since we all know that he is as real as Santa Claus, no one holding breath.
You want proof of lack of reality when it comes to religion? Visit a baby with a degenerate disease. Any celestial being that is cool with that isn't something good.
I dont remember any commandment or instruction that said to throw white phosphorous on people, use nuclear weapons on eachother, run nuclear plants without proper safety measures to save money, continually commit incest and have children with your sisters and daughters, contaminate the rivers streams and air and cut down the trees and replace organic food with artificial food to save money, or deny people medical treatment because they can't afford it.
When the gene pool was thick incest to a certain degree may have been ok. But when God say stop and start back mixing, and some dont want to listen and keep going diluting their stock more and more. Those effects will pass down and amplify and cause these problems when their family finally start spreading their bloodline at some point back into the human race.
It does have a reason for everything. Today it okay to eat fruits and vegetables but not animals. Tomorrow he say ok you could eat animals now. Reason being he was letting the animals multiply so that their numbers would be able to feed the human race that would be coming forth. During the time when animals are restricted from the menu, if you go and eating animals then you going against the plan. You going to get lix. And then when the animals accomplish his objectives in reproduction he let everyone eat meat. And you get punish because you just didnt listen. You wouldve get to eat meat like everybody without getting punished if you had just listen and wait. Same reason he say when you eat the fruits.. Do not eat the seed. Why? Because he want the seeds to replant when they discard it after they eat the fruit around it and grow more trees to nourish the coming populations. If you gone now and eating seed, and burning it and crushing it you slowing down the plan or... 'going against the grain'.
If you atheists want to be hardcore for real, and real mature. Then stop blaming God. Because it is clear that the world peace and harmony everyone dreams of for the world can only be accomplished by the changing of behaviours and attitudes of US and how we interact with eachother. That all that we have done contrary to the advice in religious texts is what have the world the way it is today. The guidance within the texts is solid. Therefore, every negative aspect of society and living in this entire world is as a consequence of somebody who did not do the right thing when they were supposed to do it. Because they choose to make a selfish decision for selfish personal gain to the detriment of many. Because someone, took something that did not belong to them. Because someone decieved someone else. Because someone cheated. Because someone did something unfair to someone else. Because someone hurt someone(physically or emotionally).
We do this to ourselves.
sMASH wrote:bluesclues wrote:matr1x wrote:The problem is the delusional thinking that God exists in real rather than a fictional character in a story.
I am not requesting god's presence. I am demanding it. But since we all know that he is as real as Santa Claus, no one holding breath.
You want proof of lack of reality when it comes to religion? Visit a baby with a degenerate disease. Any celestial being that is cool with that isn't something good.
I dont remember any commandment or instruction that said to throw white phosphorous on people, use nuclear weapons on eachother, run nuclear plants without proper safety measures to save money, continually commit incest and have children with your sisters and daughters, contaminate the rivers streams and air and cut down the trees and replace organic food with artificial food to save money, or deny people medical treatment because they can't afford it.
When the gene pool was thick incest to a certain degree may have been ok. But when God say stop and start back mixing, and some dont want to listen and keep going diluting their stock more and more. Those effects will pass down and amplify and cause these problems when their family finally start spreading their bloodline at some point back into the human race.
It does have a reason for everything. Today it okay to eat fruits and vegetables but not animals. Tomorrow he say ok you could eat animals now. Reason being he was letting the animals multiply so that their numbers would be able to feed the human race that would be coming forth. During the time when animals are restricted from the menu, if you go and eating animals then you going against the plan. You going to get lix. And then when the animals accomplish his objectives in reproduction he let everyone eat meat. And you get punish because you just didnt listen. You wouldve get to eat meat like everybody without getting punished if you had just listen and wait. Same reason he say when you eat the fruits.. Do not eat the seed. Why? Because he want the seeds to replant when they discard it after they eat the fruit around it and grow more trees to nourish the coming populations. If you gone now and eating seed, and burning it and crushing it you slowing down the plan or... 'going against the grain'.
If you atheists want to be hardcore for real, and real mature. Then stop blaming God. Because it is clear that the world peace and harmony everyone dreams of for the world can only be accomplished by the changing of behaviours and attitudes of US and how we interact with eachother. That all that we have done contrary to the advice in religious texts is what have the world the way it is today. The guidance within the texts is solid. Therefore, every negative aspect of society and living in this entire world is as a consequence of somebody who did not do the right thing when they were supposed to do it. Because they choose to make a selfish decision for selfish personal gain to the detriment of many. Because someone, took something that did not belong to them. Because someone decieved someone else. Because someone cheated. Because someone did something unfair to someone else. Because someone hurt someone(physically or emotionally).
We do this to ourselves.
did u get that highlighted part from your bible or are u using an analogy?
What u are asking is that people live and let live. I have no problem with that.
The problem I haVe is with Christians talking down to other people and denouncing that their ways are wrong, and the only way is a Christian way.
A Christian lady asked me if I was a believer, and when I told her that I believe in but not as she did, she got hot, threw a snide veiled Insult and left. She didn't want to learn or share or even hear something different. All she wanted was to spew her garbage in my ears, and was most upset when I wasn't playing along.
If u Christians speak from the stance that ur view is just ur vview and other people have theirs, then u would get respeCt.
But when u come with the predisposition that everybody else is Nancy story and ur way is the only way, then u will get the return in kind.
Hear this eh, allyuh story does sound just as silly as any nursery rhyme: probably had elements of truth to it in the past, but very convoluted now.
Imagine, a salvation story for the entirety of human kind that a god sacrificed his own son, his only son to save normal people, but didn't take into account that there may be other intelligent life out there, to create another son to sacrifice for their salvation as well.
The symbol of Christianity of the crcifix is so important that your bible said that it followed Jesus out of the tomb. But it was just the means by which he was supposedly killed, and would logically imply that if any other device was used to serve that purpose, that that would haVe followed him out of the tomb.
Everybody entitled to their own belief, but don't think ur opinion is worth anything more than anyone else's, because it is laughable.
Except for the millionaire preachers who able to get poor people to give them money. That is genius.
sMASH wrote:bluesclues wrote:matr1x wrote:The problem is the delusional thinking that God exists in real rather than a fictional character in a story.
I am not requesting god's presence. I am demanding it. But since we all know that he is as real as Santa Claus, no one holding breath.
You want proof of lack of reality when it comes to religion? Visit a baby with a degenerate disease. Any celestial being that is cool with that isn't something good.
I dont remember any commandment or instruction that said to throw white phosphorous on people, use nuclear weapons on eachother, run nuclear plants without proper safety measures to save money, continually commit incest and have children with your sisters and daughters, contaminate the rivers streams and air and cut down the trees and replace organic food with artificial food to save money, or deny people medical treatment because they can't afford it.
When the gene pool was thick incest to a certain degree may have been ok. But when God say stop and start back mixing, and some dont want to listen and keep going diluting their stock more and more. Those effects will pass down and amplify and cause these problems when their family finally start spreading their bloodline at some point back into the human race.
It does have a reason for everything. Today it okay to eat fruits and vegetables but not animals. Tomorrow he say ok you could eat animals now. Reason being he was letting the animals multiply so that their numbers would be able to feed the human race that would be coming forth. During the time when animals are restricted from the menu, if you go and eating animals then you going against the plan. You going to get lix. And then when the animals accomplish his objectives in reproduction he let everyone eat meat. And you get punish because you just didnt listen. You wouldve get to eat meat like everybody without getting punished if you had just listen and wait. Same reason he say when you eat the fruits.. Do not eat the seed. Why? Because he want the seeds to replant when they discard it after they eat the fruit around it and grow more trees to nourish the coming populations. If you gone now and eating seed, and burning it and crushing it you slowing down the plan or... 'going against the grain'.
If you atheists want to be hardcore for real, and real mature. Then stop blaming God. Because it is clear that the world peace and harmony everyone dreams of for the world can only be accomplished by the changing of behaviours and attitudes of US and how we interact with eachother. That all that we have done contrary to the advice in religious texts is what have the world the way it is today. The guidance within the texts is solid. Therefore, every negative aspect of society and living in this entire world is as a consequence of somebody who did not do the right thing when they were supposed to do it. Because they choose to make a selfish decision for selfish personal gain to the detriment of many. Because someone, took something that did not belong to them. Because someone decieved someone else. Because someone cheated. Because someone did something unfair to someone else. Because someone hurt someone(physically or emotionally).
We do this to ourselves.
did u get that highlighted part from your bible or are u using an analogy?
What u are asking is that people live and let live. I have no problem with that.
The problem I haVe is with Christians talking down to other people and denouncing that their ways are wrong, and the only way is a Christian way.
A Christian lady asked me if I was a believer, and when I told her that I believe in but not as she did, she got hot, threw a snide veiled Insult and left. She didn't want to learn or share or even hear something different. All she wanted was to spew her garbage in my ears, and was most upset when I wasn't playing along.
If u Christians speak from the stance that ur view is just ur vview and other people have theirs, then u would get respeCt.
But when u come with the predisposition that everybody else is Nancy story and ur way is the only way, then u will get the return in kind.
Hear this eh, allyuh story does sound just as silly as any nursery rhyme: probably had elements of truth to it in the past, but very convoluted now.
Imagine, a salvation story for the entirety of human kind that a god sacrificed his own son, his only son to save normal people, but didn't take into account that there may be other intelligent life out there, to create another son to sacrifice for their salvation as well.
The symbol of Christianity of the crcifix is so important that your bible said that it followed Jesus out of the tomb. But it was just the means by which he was supposedly killed, and would logically imply that if any other device was used to serve that purpose, that that would haVe followed him out of the tomb.
Everybody entitled to their own belief, but don't think ur opinion is worth anything more than anyone else's, because it is laughable.
Except for the millionaire preachers who able to get poor people to give them money. That is genius.
sMASH wrote:Hoss, loss allyuh does be reading all kinda ting in allyuh bible and drawing all sorts of conclusions that no where near what the words allyuh had read, could contain.
Ah man say god tell people to be vegetarians, so that the animals could repopulate. Then he said he read that with a special eye.
Allyuh don't read with special eyes, allyuh does read with special brain.
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