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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 1:38 pm

Yes, the book is about death. Religion is about death. Spirituality is about death. I.. had to die to receive God's spirit.

Is how you interpret the death. End of the day.. from 'nothing' you came.. and through that superconnected interconnected superstructer superstring you will return to nothing. At least that is what you call it.

Tell me more. Is all about death. More specifically.. HOW to die.. LIKE A BOSS. Conquering the world of limitation through mastering the process of death, thus returning to a Godly state of control over physicality. There's sugarcoating going all around. But yes the ultimate goal of spirituality is obtaining eternal life by completing a evolutionary growth process within your body before you die, thereby completing your soul to be ever and self perpetuating. In its undeveloped stated you have to eat, sleep and suffer all the limitations of physicality. But the closer to spirit you become the more those limitations fade.

We all hadda die the physical death bro. Everything here dies. But in the world of those who graduated, nothing dies, and nothing decays. If nothing else.. suffering in this world will help you to appreciate the next one... if you manage to make it in there. And when you look down on the earth, all you could do, is feel sorry for the creatures there trapped in their own minds and destroying themselves in ignorance. From there you will have mercy appreciating the knowledge of the difference between your massive knowledgeset, and they like children dont even know yet not to stick their finger in the vcr or wall socket.

Understand what religion teaches you. Nothing greater. All the things you instructed to do in religion, every act and morality God wants you to embody, is so that your being will evolve to a state that is beyond the grasp of death anymore. But you will have to die at least once, in this physical state.. both literally, and metaphorically.

Even though i have died and been given an eternal spirit now as you can see... i am still physically here, quite alive, yet knowing God. This is the right way to do it. Not suicide, not killing virgins, not anything other than your internal work. Your internal development until one day you mind lights up with divine light and you perceive the spiritual nature of creation.

That is called enlightenment or gaining illumination. It is was your spirit is waiting for your body to fall in line and get doing so you can both become immortal. It is a scientific process clearly defined by ancient man who discovered it first. Its true, because i tested it, followed it and it worked. You can believe that and my testimony.. or take your chances on your own bro. I will just say, i have no reason to lie to you.. or anyone about this.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » June 15th, 2017, 1:53 pm

bluesclues wrote:
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bluesclues wrote:let me give you a project to do.. if you not too lazy.

go through the bible, and make a list of all the positive things you gain from it. and make a list of all the negative things you gain from it. from the way you speak people will swear the bible only teaches negative things to humans.

anything you see as wisodm.. put it in your positive list
anything you see as hateful or other negative emotion put it in the negative list.

you will see for yourself how biased and unfair a judge you are. completely unsuitable to judge a God. because when you throw out that book, you throw out all the good in it with it.

and what it is.. all of them hating on God because they want the right to be able to bull man in the bottom and still get eternal life even though it acts contrary to God's universal intentions. when in this day under christianity, it hardly matters because again.. God will save who deserves to be saved individually from all who destroying the earth. check the stories.. God always lead his prophets away from the shite and everybody else who in they folly go down. one man build a ark, he try to save everybody and tell them build boats too.. they had no time for that.. but because they die is God fault. god tell them dont pray to idols and carvings, one man alone listen, God escort him out the region safely and then that region get the lix was coming to them. god say multiply to fill the earth and allyuh want to bull in bottom and do thing contrary to assisting in reproduction..prophet get escorted out of the region, fire and brimstone upon all who stay, and the wife looking back because she really wanted to take part in the nonsense too.. ok stay and take brimstone and become a pillar of calcium in the bare shape of a human ashed.

where the prophet was every time? safe. so know that even if the whole earth was to blow up... God people will get escorted off.. safe. because they listening, and trying. but you the atheist, you will not build the boat because is nonsense, so when the flood come you will drown. that is not God fault. is YOURS.

If it didn't have the flood...
Edit; Sry, who sent the flood...

All of we here ust renting. When landlord say, next Friday there will be fumagation services throughout the building between the hours of 9am and 2pm. It is your option to stay and breathe in the fumes and get fumagated with the roaches and mosquitoes if you so choose. I know, my arse will be finding something to do away from the compound during those times. Considering i got fair warning.

Land lord killed the roaches, is still responsible for their deaths... roachicide.



Let me put it in a popular scenario:
If a woman goes to a bad neighborhood, dresses scantily, drinks herself drunk, and gets raped, who is guilty, the guy or the woman.

If i was a Christian i would leave this open and let u draw ur own conclusions... just quote it and wallow in my superiority.

But I will delve in and give an explanation,,,, which actually pertains to what I am speaking about.


No matter what the woman did, the guy still got the idea in his head to do the rape. He still committed the act of his own will. It will still be considered that they guy raped the wwoman

Just like the flood, no matter what what people did, no matter what warnings were issued, It would still be the god of the bible committing world wide genocide. Killing the entire world except for that few people on a leaky boat.

U are victim blaming.

Ur god killed men, women, children, animals, plants, dinosaurs. Why did he not send Jesus to save them?
... before he killed them, as he did.

He loves u so, he will take care of u, Jehovah has a plan.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » June 15th, 2017, 2:02 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
bluesclues wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
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Sounds to me like some invisible force that permeates spacetime. Also considering dead things have no intelligence then it would seem this life giving force also provides intelligence and/or awareness, in living creatures. .

"It can't be explained therefore God did it"



i dont remember mentioning God in that sentence anywhere. you should know you quoted it. but if it seems like and sounds like God to you too.. then i guess if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... or no? lol

Thanks for proving my point.

That was check and mate.
Did not see it initially...

*impressed and afraid*

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 2:05 pm

Life is about death. If you havent figured that out yet you havent been paying attention. A small blip in the radar is what you represent from the 'nonliving' state you were before the sperm fertilize the egg. And you will grow and you will have a time and you will die. Dont you see is a countdown clock on your head from the day you born and you have to accomplish some task before the clock runs out? What's the task? Getting a degree and becoming richI? Paying bills? You think God cares for man's money system? Money exists because man in his selfishness will cheat people and not be inherently fair to others. That is why we have systems in place to manage money, and rules and principles... BECAUSE YOU ARE IGNORANT AND DONT KNOW BETTER AND SO HAVE TO BE FORCED TO DO THE RIGHT THING. Share resources with eachother. Not hoard and hold to ransom while ppl dying of need and you have 100x more than a man can need for a lifetime of frivolous spending.

All that gone mashup anyhow. Give allyuh a money system to help manage objectives and grow and allyuh still fk it up with corruption and bobol.

I tell allyuh. You in hell and you are demons. Not angels. Dont think you are right. Dont think you are good. You're not. And because you here is proof that you're not. Some of you will turn from negativity and foster enough goodness to no longer be classed as demons and so lifted out of here. The rest will stay until they learn. In a prison of their own making with their own types. All selfish self serving beings to varying degrees and you know that i dont have to tell you.

It is just like exiling murderers to an island prison and every now and again you drop a parcel of food for them. Because they dont listen to the reason in civility, they life in that enclosure with the environment they believe in creating. So you know.. when the parcel drop they going to fight and murder to get a fair or even unfair share. They have no value for fairness.. and that is how the idiots like it. Because if they had value for order and lining up and being patient and forgiving and their brother's keeper, when the parcel drop they would all peacefully attempt to divide the proceeds equally without trying to cheat anyone.

A good person doesnt need a ruler over their head to do the right and sensible thing. They dont need any overseer and will still act fairly. It's called self proctoring. The whole human race has to learn it. But while you dont, you will be here, burning, decaying an of suffering in your own choice of behaviour and how you treat and consider others you share air with. And give you all a chance what would you do... lock up as much air as you can in your personal vault while ppl outside gasping for breath. Is greediness and uneccessary hardship you all create for eachother... ANF ALL OF YOU GUILTY. Every last one reading this and not reading it you know your sin and what you do to people who didnt really deserve what you did to them. Or did they, and so did you deserve whats happening to you. Oh what a tangled web we weave.

Anyway. Its non negotiable. You get right. Or you get the stick. The stick is the effects created from your actions in the world where you are stationed and live. If humans were good creatures the world would not be this way. They were bad since they came here. Exiled like murderers caught in a peaceful society and shipped out and a whooooooole set of safeties to keep them from coming back. Thats more than a metaphor. Its the truth.

Me and ppl like me. We are the ultimate jailers. We have the keys to heaven. And we come and try to rehabilitate as many as we can in our time here so they too can get the keys. But yeah, not everyone in the prison is interested in being rehabilitated. For them the prison is home. They get free food and free meals and dont have to do NO spiritual work for God if they dont want to. Just like them in prison living in the ail on others tax money. Why? For the same reason you are an atheist.... because they cant understand the reason and logic for legal/guidance system that is in place over their heads forcing them to go in a certain direction when they want to go exploring. The restrictions are made to protect them from walking into dangerous territory and harming themselves unwittingly, but they must find out for themselves. So they disobey the law and end up in jail and say fk the system. But from day one... system say 'doh do that it wont end well'. You still gone and do it... well what you want to happen again. You go must find out.
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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » June 15th, 2017, 2:10 pm

^^opinion

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 2:26 pm

sMASH wrote:
bluesclues wrote:
sMASH wrote:
bluesclues wrote:let me give you a project to do.. if you not too lazy.

go through the bible, and make a list of all the positive things you gain from it. and make a list of all the negative things you gain from it. from the way you speak people will swear the bible only teaches negative things to humans.

anything you see as wisodm.. put it in your positive list
anything you see as hateful or other negative emotion put it in the negative list.

you will see for yourself how biased and unfair a judge you are. completely unsuitable to judge a God. because when you throw out that book, you throw out all the good in it with it.

and what it is.. all of them hating on God because they want the right to be able to bull man in the bottom and still get eternal life even though it acts contrary to God's universal intentions. when in this day under christianity, it hardly matters because again.. God will save who deserves to be saved individually from all who destroying the earth. check the stories.. God always lead his prophets away from the shite and everybody else who in they folly go down. one man build a ark, he try to save everybody and tell them build boats too.. they had no time for that.. but because they die is God fault. god tell them dont pray to idols and carvings, one man alone listen, God escort him out the region safely and then that region get the lix was coming to them. god say multiply to fill the earth and allyuh want to bull in bottom and do thing contrary to assisting in reproduction..prophet get escorted out of the region, fire and brimstone upon all who stay, and the wife looking back because she really wanted to take part in the nonsense too.. ok stay and take brimstone and become a pillar of calcium in the bare shape of a human ashed.

where the prophet was every time? safe. so know that even if the whole earth was to blow up... God people will get escorted off.. safe. because they listening, and trying. but you the atheist, you will not build the boat because is nonsense, so when the flood come you will drown. that is not God fault. is YOURS.

If it didn't have the flood...
Edit; Sry, who sent the flood...

All of we here ust renting. When landlord say, next Friday there will be fumagation services throughout the building between the hours of 9am and 2pm. It is your option to stay and breathe in the fumes and get fumagated with the roaches and mosquitoes if you so choose. I know, my arse will be finding something to do away from the compound during those times. Considering i got fair warning.

Land lord killed the roaches, is still responsible for their deaths... roachicide.



Let me put it in a popular scenario:
If a woman goes to a bad neighborhood, dresses scantily, drinks herself drunk, and gets raped, who is guilty, the guy or the woman.

If i was a Christian i would leave this open and let u draw ur own conclusions... just quote it and wallow in my superiority.

But I will delve in and give an explanation,,,, which actually pertains to what I am speaking about.


No matter what the woman did, the guy still got the idea in his head to do the rape. He still committed the act of his own will. It will still be considered that they guy raped the wwoman

Just like the flood, no matter what what people did, no matter what warnings were issued, It would still be the god of the bible committing world wide genocide. Killing the entire world except for that few people on a leaky boat.

U are victim blaming.

Ur god killed men, women, children, animals, plants, dinosaurs. Why did he not send Jesus to save them?
... before he killed them, as he did.

He loves u so, he will take care of u, Jehovah has a plan.

If the landlord didnt kill the roaches by friday, on saturday a disease wouldve developed that spread to all the tenant their families and work colleagues and killed them.

Save the roaches?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 15th, 2017, 2:30 pm

It's not cherry picking. It's showing what the real face of religion looks like

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » June 15th, 2017, 2:52 pm

bluesclues wrote:
sMASH wrote:
bluesclues wrote:
sMASH wrote:
bluesclues wrote:let me give you a project to do.. if you not too lazy.

go through the bible, and make a list of all the positive things you gain from it. and make a list of all the negative things you gain from it. from the way you speak people will swear the bible only teaches negative things to humans.

anything you see as wisodm.. put it in your positive list
anything you see as hateful or other negative emotion put it in the negative list.

you will see for yourself how biased and unfair a judge you are. completely unsuitable to judge a God. because when you throw out that book, you throw out all the good in it with it.

and what it is.. all of them hating on God because they want the right to be able to bull man in the bottom and still get eternal life even though it acts contrary to God's universal intentions. when in this day under christianity, it hardly matters because again.. God will save who deserves to be saved individually from all who destroying the earth. check the stories.. God always lead his prophets away from the shite and everybody else who in they folly go down. one man build a ark, he try to save everybody and tell them build boats too.. they had no time for that.. but because they die is God fault. god tell them dont pray to idols and carvings, one man alone listen, God escort him out the region safely and then that region get the lix was coming to them. god say multiply to fill the earth and allyuh want to bull in bottom and do thing contrary to assisting in reproduction..prophet get escorted out of the region, fire and brimstone upon all who stay, and the wife looking back because she really wanted to take part in the nonsense too.. ok stay and take brimstone and become a pillar of calcium in the bare shape of a human ashed.

where the prophet was every time? safe. so know that even if the whole earth was to blow up... God people will get escorted off.. safe. because they listening, and trying. but you the atheist, you will not build the boat because is nonsense, so when the flood come you will drown. that is not God fault. is YOURS.

If it didn't have the flood...
Edit; Sry, who sent the flood...

All of we here ust renting. When landlord say, next Friday there will be fumagation services throughout the building between the hours of 9am and 2pm. It is your option to stay and breathe in the fumes and get fumagated with the roaches and mosquitoes if you so choose. I know, my arse will be finding something to do away from the compound during those times. Considering i got fair warning.

Land lord killed the roaches, is still responsible for their deaths... roachicide.



Let me put it in a popular scenario:
If a woman goes to a bad neighborhood, dresses scantily, drinks herself drunk, and gets raped, who is guilty, the guy or the woman.

If i was a Christian i would leave this open and let u draw ur own conclusions... just quote it and wallow in my superiority.

But I will delve in and give an explanation,,,, which actually pertains to what I am speaking about.


No matter what the woman did, the guy still got the idea in his head to do the rape. He still committed the act of his own will. It will still be considered that they guy raped the wwoman

Just like the flood, no matter what what people did, no matter what warnings were issued, It would still be the god of the bible committing world wide genocide. Killing the entire world except for that few people on a leaky boat.

U are victim blaming.

Ur god killed men, women, children, animals, plants, dinosaurs. Why did he not send Jesus to save them?
... before he killed them, as he did.

He loves u so, he will take care of u, Jehovah has a plan.

If the landlord didnt kill the roaches by friday, on saturday a disease wouldve developed that spread to all the tenant their families and work colleagues and killed them.

Save the roaches?

God doesn't kill people; People kill people.

The flood. Who sent the flood?

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 3:04 pm

matr1x wrote:It's not cherry picking. It's showing what the real face of religion looks like

This is where you live bro. You could keep arguing with the hot iron for burning you every time you touch it but no matter how much you argue it will still burn you the next time. Everybody else know to stay away from that iron that there's nothing profitable to be gained there for as long as that iron is red hot you cant touch it. That is science. If you really dont like this world, i would suggest you do like me and find your way out. Because it is simply.. not going to change until God comes to all men. Worse is all you can expect for a world of selfish behaviour. Down.. decay and more spiralling downwardness for our country and the world if man dont get his shite together. Meanwhile, God's people will be shielded from it. The atheists not so much they will have to shield themselves, just like the idol worshippers will have to depend on their idols to defend them from foreign invaders since they turned their backs on a living God and protector.

All what going on here have nothing to do with religion or their teachings. Is the evil in men heart that religion has identified and tries to teach you how to purify. Not everyone who studies for an exam understands the same or passes the exam. So if a man see it that he should kill christians in the name of God let's say even though God say mind your own business and dont go looking for trouble in other people country then there is accordance for that. Namely the murderer will have hoisted upon his own soul all the sins of those he murdered.. and in it they will be purified and raised up to God sinless and he will face the breggedeng. Lol

God is Just. As humans you will find it hard to perceive the mind of God. With lack of knowledge you assume you would make a different decision.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 3:10 pm

sMASH wrote:
bluesclues wrote:
sMASH wrote:
bluesclues wrote:
sMASH wrote:
bluesclues wrote:let me give you a project to do.. if you not too lazy.

go through the bible, and make a list of all the positive things you gain from it. and make a list of all the negative things you gain from it. from the way you speak people will swear the bible only teaches negative things to humans.

anything you see as wisodm.. put it in your positive list
anything you see as hateful or other negative emotion put it in the negative list.

you will see for yourself how biased and unfair a judge you are. completely unsuitable to judge a God. because when you throw out that book, you throw out all the good in it with it.

and what it is.. all of them hating on God because they want the right to be able to bull man in the bottom and still get eternal life even though it acts contrary to God's universal intentions. when in this day under christianity, it hardly matters because again.. God will save who deserves to be saved individually from all who destroying the earth. check the stories.. God always lead his prophets away from the shite and everybody else who in they folly go down. one man build a ark, he try to save everybody and tell them build boats too.. they had no time for that.. but because they die is God fault. god tell them dont pray to idols and carvings, one man alone listen, God escort him out the region safely and then that region get the lix was coming to them. god say multiply to fill the earth and allyuh want to bull in bottom and do thing contrary to assisting in reproduction..prophet get escorted out of the region, fire and brimstone upon all who stay, and the wife looking back because she really wanted to take part in the nonsense too.. ok stay and take brimstone and become a pillar of calcium in the bare shape of a human ashed.

where the prophet was every time? safe. so know that even if the whole earth was to blow up... God people will get escorted off.. safe. because they listening, and trying. but you the atheist, you will not build the boat because is nonsense, so when the flood come you will drown. that is not God fault. is YOURS.

If it didn't have the flood...
Edit; Sry, who sent the flood...

All of we here ust renting. When landlord say, next Friday there will be fumagation services throughout the building between the hours of 9am and 2pm. It is your option to stay and breathe in the fumes and get fumagated with the roaches and mosquitoes if you so choose. I know, my arse will be finding something to do away from the compound during those times. Considering i got fair warning.

Land lord killed the roaches, is still responsible for their deaths... roachicide.



Let me put it in a popular scenario:
If a woman goes to a bad neighborhood, dresses scantily, drinks herself drunk, and gets raped, who is guilty, the guy or the woman.

If i was a Christian i would leave this open and let u draw ur own conclusions... just quote it and wallow in my superiority.

But I will delve in and give an explanation,,,, which actually pertains to what I am speaking about.


No matter what the woman did, the guy still got the idea in his head to do the rape. He still committed the act of his own will. It will still be considered that they guy raped the wwoman

Just like the flood, no matter what what people did, no matter what warnings were issued, It would still be the god of the bible committing world wide genocide. Killing the entire world except for that few people on a leaky boat.

U are victim blaming.

Ur god killed men, women, children, animals, plants, dinosaurs. Why did he not send Jesus to save them?
... before he killed them, as he did.

He loves u so, he will take care of u, Jehovah has a plan.

If the landlord didnt kill the roaches by friday, on saturday a disease wouldve developed that spread to all the tenant their families and work colleagues and killed them.

Save the roaches?

God doesn't kill people; People kill people.

The flood. Who sent the flood?

You didnt answer my question. We establish God sent the flood, with the intention to fumagate the earth of the roaches infesting it.

Are u suggesting god shouldve left the roaches to spread disease and let everyone die to save the roaches??

And yes, the types that died in the flood were what we today and all would consider roaches. Those that undermine society and believe in no law or empathy. Will rob you and rape your wife and for them that is kix. You see those types they will forever have kix at others expense until the gun they usually point at others is pointed at their head.. then suddenly... it not funny anymore.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » June 15th, 2017, 3:12 pm

God will not send his son to save aliens. Poor aliens.

But he will send a flood to kill men women and children. Poor children.

And if Jesus was killed on an elEctric chair, the electric chair would have followed him Out of the tomb.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 3:22 pm

Have children right now training with big guns to come and kill you and enslave you in a foreign country. When they offloading rounds in your direction.. remember to go without resistance so you can 'save the children'.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 3:34 pm

Anyway.. when the quips come it marks the end of discussion and the entry of intention to just be offensive and disrespectful. So here i will take my leave. You guys will work it out.

Smh

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 15th, 2017, 3:46 pm

Lol. There was no great flood.
Let's try this, "god, show up and educate these people. "








No, still nothing.

Must be busy for corpus christi

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 3:56 pm

matr1x wrote:Lol. There was no great flood.
Let's try this, "god, show up and educate these people. "








No, still nothing.

Must be busy for corpus christi

Read the book.

Been there done that. Even while God was among people they eventually just started taking him for granted.

I tell you you creatures are not nice. You marry your wives and then because you have her you take her for granted and ignore her. This you did with God too. You did not treat God how a friend treats a friend after all he did for you you discard him when you didnt need him anymore and look for him only when you want something. In today's world we call that 'fake fren'.

So you want God to stick around selfish userers who dont really care anymore to learn but what they can get. I feel so disgusted just thinking about it i can puke.

But anyway.. fake fren is a real ting and we dont indulge in that.

We real out here. If i dont like your vibes i move from you or tell you get the fk outta here. I dont stick around and fake smile and pretend to be your friend. And because i will need something and i does get it from you free and if we stop being friends i will have to pay for it. Lol. Thats called falsefaceness and deception. Deception is a sin and act of wickedness to someone. Better to tell them 'gtfo i dont like you'. You being honest, both with them and yourself.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 15th, 2017, 4:10 pm

Scriptures really says it is better for a man to meet a bear robbed of her cubs than to meet a fool in his folly. Wow. So true. The logic of you atheists is really painful... sorry, more painful.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » June 15th, 2017, 4:42 pm

The only good logic is biblical logic,
Tell us anything else we'll get vex vex vex.


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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 15th, 2017, 4:56 pm

sMASH wrote:The only good logic is biblical logic,
Tell us anything else we'll get vex vex vex.


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Golly ur right again. Biblical logic is the only good logic. You seem to be coming around

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » June 15th, 2017, 5:18 pm

Biblical logic: god is luv... drowns all the women and children in the world.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluefete » June 15th, 2017, 5:28 pm

sMASH wrote:Biblical logic: god is luv... drowns all the women and children in the world.


So if God is love, why do we ALL have to die? It matters not whether you are a believer or an atheist.

Science cannot bring the dead back to lie. There are recorded instances, however, of dead people returning to life, only to die again!

Isn't God in charge of all things? Doesn't God tell us what is necessary for our salvation? Don't we have the choice of believing or ignoring?

Didn't God say that before you were in the womb I knew you?

The only one who has power over life and death is God.

Deal with it.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby matr1x » June 15th, 2017, 5:51 pm

The problem is the delusional thinking that God exists in real rather than a fictional character in a story.

I am not requesting god's presence. I am demanding it. But since we all know that he is as real as Santa Claus, no one holding breath.

You want proof of lack of reality when it comes to religion? Visit a baby with a degenerate disease. Any celestial being that is cool with that isn't something good.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 5:52 pm

Man these atheists be acting like some jehova's witness showing up at your door in this thread. Just instead they trying to deliver their good word of 'life without purpose and death without reason'. Lol

I suppose they think it makes them feel hardcore since they have 'shed all the crutches of brainwashing used to comfort fools and are able to stand on their own now knowing the truth of all and now hold the answer to the mystery of life.'

Thats not the truth dudes. Not the big humanity bubble shattering truth you thought was all the fuss. Sorry. But the real truth that is to be known at this time is where you really are, as opposed to where you think you might be in the grand scheme of things. But yes, there is a grand scheme. That is the truth that has been hidden to soften the blow for too long, and man is becoming careless with salvation. Not that there is no God.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluefete » June 15th, 2017, 6:05 pm

matr1x wrote:The problem is the delusional thinking that God exists in real rather than a fictional character in a story.

I am not requesting god's presence. I am demanding it. But since we all know that he is as real as Santa Claus, no one holding breath.

You want proof of lack of reality when it comes to religion? Visit a baby with a degenerate disease. Any celestial being that is cool with that isn't something good.


There is none so blind as those who will not see.

When Jesus was on earth, his disciples asked him about a man who was born blind and was it because of a sin done by his parents or the man..

Jesus said that neither the man nor his parents had sinned but he was born blind so that the works of God might be displayed in him.

I know a lady with cerebral palsy. She cannot speak as we know speech but she is one of the most intelligent women I have ever had the privilege to meet in this life.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 6:41 pm

matr1x wrote:The problem is the delusional thinking that God exists in real rather than a fictional character in a story.

I am not requesting god's presence. I am demanding it. But since we all know that he is as real as Santa Claus, no one holding breath.

You want proof of lack of reality when it comes to religion? Visit a baby with a degenerate disease. Any celestial being that is cool with that isn't something good.

I dont remember any commandment or instruction that said to throw white phosphorous on people, use nuclear weapons on eachother, run nuclear plants without proper safety measures to save money, continually commit incest and have children with your sisters and daughters, contaminate the rivers streams and air and cut down the trees and replace organic food with artificial food to save money, or deny people medical treatment because they can't afford it.

When the gene pool was thick incest to a certain degree may have been ok. But when God say stop and start back mixing, and some dont want to listen and keep going diluting their stock more and more. Those effects will pass down and amplify and cause these problems when their family finally start spreading their bloodline at some point back into the human race.

It does have a reason for everything. Today it okay to eat fruits and vegetables but not animals. Tomorrow he say ok you could eat animals now. Reason being he was letting the animals multiply so that their numbers would be able to feed the human race that would be coming forth. During the time when animals are restricted from the menu, if you go and eating animals then you going against the plan. You going to get lix. And then when the animals accomplish his objectives in reproduction he let everyone eat meat. And you get punish because you just didnt listen. You wouldve get to eat meat like everybody without getting punished if you had just listen and wait. Same reason he say when you eat the fruits.. Do not eat the seed. Why? Because he want the seeds to replant when they discard it after they eat the fruit around it and grow more trees to nourish the coming populations. If you gone now and eating seed, and burning it and crushing it you slowing down the plan or... 'going against the grain'.

If you atheists want to be hardcore for real, and real mature. Then stop blaming God. Because it is clear that the world peace and harmony everyone dreams of for the world can only be accomplished by the changing of behaviours and attitudes of US and how we interact with eachother. That all that we have done contrary to the advice in religious texts is what have the world the way it is today. The guidance within the texts is solid. Therefore, every negative aspect of society and living in this entire world is as a consequence of somebody who did not do the right thing when they were supposed to do it. Because they choose to make a selfish decision for selfish personal gain to the detriment of many. Because someone, took something that did not belong to them. Because someone decieved someone else. Because someone cheated. Because someone did something unfair to someone else. Because someone hurt someone(physically or emotionally).

We do this to ourselves.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » June 15th, 2017, 7:33 pm

bluesclues wrote:
matr1x wrote:The problem is the delusional thinking that God exists in real rather than a fictional character in a story.

I am not requesting god's presence. I am demanding it. But since we all know that he is as real as Santa Claus, no one holding breath.

You want proof of lack of reality when it comes to religion? Visit a baby with a degenerate disease. Any celestial being that is cool with that isn't something good.

I dont remember any commandment or instruction that said to throw white phosphorous on people, use nuclear weapons on eachother, run nuclear plants without proper safety measures to save money, continually commit incest and have children with your sisters and daughters, contaminate the rivers streams and air and cut down the trees and replace organic food with artificial food to save money, or deny people medical treatment because they can't afford it.

When the gene pool was thick incest to a certain degree may have been ok. But when God say stop and start back mixing, and some dont want to listen and keep going diluting their stock more and more. Those effects will pass down and amplify and cause these problems when their family finally start spreading their bloodline at some point back into the human race.

It does have a reason for everything. Today it okay to eat fruits and vegetables but not animals. Tomorrow he say ok you could eat animals now. Reason being he was letting the animals multiply so that their numbers would be able to feed the human race that would be coming forth. During the time when animals are restricted from the menu, if you go and eating animals then you going against the plan. You going to get lix. And then when the animals accomplish his objectives in reproduction he let everyone eat meat. And you get punish because you just didnt listen. You wouldve get to eat meat like everybody without getting punished if you had just listen and wait. Same reason he say when you eat the fruits.. Do not eat the seed. Why? Because he want the seeds to replant when they discard it after they eat the fruit around it and grow more trees to nourish the coming populations. If you gone now and eating seed, and burning it and crushing it you slowing down the plan or... 'going against the grain'.

If you atheists want to be hardcore for real, and real mature. Then stop blaming God. Because it is clear that the world peace and harmony everyone dreams of for the world can only be accomplished by the changing of behaviours and attitudes of US and how we interact with eachother. That all that we have done contrary to the advice in religious texts is what have the world the way it is today. The guidance within the texts is solid. Therefore, every negative aspect of society and living in this entire world is as a consequence of somebody who did not do the right thing when they were supposed to do it. Because they choose to make a selfish decision for selfish personal gain to the detriment of many. Because someone, took something that did not belong to them. Because someone decieved someone else. Because someone cheated. Because someone did something unfair to someone else. Because someone hurt someone(physically or emotionally).

We do this to ourselves.


did u get that highlighted part from your bible or are u using an analogy?


What u are asking is that people live and let live. I have no problem with that.
The problem I haVe is with Christians talking down to other people and denouncing that their ways are wrong, and the only way is a Christian way.

A Christian lady asked me if I was a believer, and when I told her that I believe in but not as she did, she got hot, threw a snide veiled Insult and left. She didn't want to learn or share or even hear something different. All she wanted was to spew her garbage in my ears, and was most upset when I wasn't playing along.


If u Christians speak from the stance that ur view is just ur vview and other people have theirs, then u would get respeCt.
But when u come with the predisposition that everybody else is Nancy story and ur way is the only way, then u will get the return in kind.

Hear this eh, allyuh story does sound just as silly as any nursery rhyme: probably had elements of truth to it in the past, but very convoluted now.

Imagine, a salvation story for the entirety of human kind that a god sacrificed his own son, his only son to save normal people, but didn't take into account that there may be other intelligent life out there, to create another son to sacrifice for their salvation as well.

The symbol of Christianity of the crcifix is so important that your bible said that it followed Jesus out of the tomb. But it was just the means by which he was supposedly killed, and would logically imply that if any other device was used to serve that purpose, that that would haVe followed him out of the tomb.


Everybody entitled to their own belief, but don't think ur opinion is worth anything more than anyone else's, because it is laughable.

Except for the millionaire preachers who able to get poor people to give them money. That is genius.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 10:51 pm

sMASH wrote:
bluesclues wrote:
matr1x wrote:The problem is the delusional thinking that God exists in real rather than a fictional character in a story.

I am not requesting god's presence. I am demanding it. But since we all know that he is as real as Santa Claus, no one holding breath.

You want proof of lack of reality when it comes to religion? Visit a baby with a degenerate disease. Any celestial being that is cool with that isn't something good.

I dont remember any commandment or instruction that said to throw white phosphorous on people, use nuclear weapons on eachother, run nuclear plants without proper safety measures to save money, continually commit incest and have children with your sisters and daughters, contaminate the rivers streams and air and cut down the trees and replace organic food with artificial food to save money, or deny people medical treatment because they can't afford it.

When the gene pool was thick incest to a certain degree may have been ok. But when God say stop and start back mixing, and some dont want to listen and keep going diluting their stock more and more. Those effects will pass down and amplify and cause these problems when their family finally start spreading their bloodline at some point back into the human race.

It does have a reason for everything. Today it okay to eat fruits and vegetables but not animals. Tomorrow he say ok you could eat animals now. Reason being he was letting the animals multiply so that their numbers would be able to feed the human race that would be coming forth. During the time when animals are restricted from the menu, if you go and eating animals then you going against the plan. You going to get lix. And then when the animals accomplish his objectives in reproduction he let everyone eat meat. And you get punish because you just didnt listen. You wouldve get to eat meat like everybody without getting punished if you had just listen and wait. Same reason he say when you eat the fruits.. Do not eat the seed. Why? Because he want the seeds to replant when they discard it after they eat the fruit around it and grow more trees to nourish the coming populations. If you gone now and eating seed, and burning it and crushing it you slowing down the plan or... 'going against the grain'.

If you atheists want to be hardcore for real, and real mature. Then stop blaming God. Because it is clear that the world peace and harmony everyone dreams of for the world can only be accomplished by the changing of behaviours and attitudes of US and how we interact with eachother. That all that we have done contrary to the advice in religious texts is what have the world the way it is today. The guidance within the texts is solid. Therefore, every negative aspect of society and living in this entire world is as a consequence of somebody who did not do the right thing when they were supposed to do it. Because they choose to make a selfish decision for selfish personal gain to the detriment of many. Because someone, took something that did not belong to them. Because someone decieved someone else. Because someone cheated. Because someone did something unfair to someone else. Because someone hurt someone(physically or emotionally).

We do this to ourselves.


did u get that highlighted part from your bible or are u using an analogy?


What u are asking is that people live and let live. I have no problem with that.
The problem I haVe is with Christians talking down to other people and denouncing that their ways are wrong, and the only way is a Christian way.

A Christian lady asked me if I was a believer, and when I told her that I believe in but not as she did, she got hot, threw a snide veiled Insult and left. She didn't want to learn or share or even hear something different. All she wanted was to spew her garbage in my ears, and was most upset when I wasn't playing along.


If u Christians speak from the stance that ur view is just ur vview and other people have theirs, then u would get respeCt.
But when u come with the predisposition that everybody else is Nancy story and ur way is the only way, then u will get the return in kind.

Hear this eh, allyuh story does sound just as silly as any nursery rhyme: probably had elements of truth to it in the past, but very convoluted now.

Imagine, a salvation story for the entirety of human kind that a god sacrificed his own son, his only son to save normal people, but didn't take into account that there may be other intelligent life out there, to create another son to sacrifice for their salvation as well.

The symbol of Christianity of the crcifix is so important that your bible said that it followed Jesus out of the tomb. But it was just the means by which he was supposedly killed, and would logically imply that if any other device was used to serve that purpose, that that would haVe followed him out of the tomb.


Everybody entitled to their own belief, but don't think ur opinion is worth anything more than anyone else's, because it is laughable.

Except for the millionaire preachers who able to get poor people to give them money. That is genius.

The highlighted part you will understand when you start to think with the mind of God. The bible tells you but you have to be reading with a good eye to see some of the answers :)

About your qualms with christian behaviour.. let us just put it this way...

Noone is perfect. A christian woman may have a bad attitude towards non christians but she may have a largely charitable heart or honourable conduct. People will have their strong spiritual points in their psyche, but will have weak aspects which need developing.

What should be clear to you is that the bible did not instruct her to act that way towards people of different beliefs. So she is doing that from her own volition or ignorance of how she should deal with such a situation in a most satisfactory manner to God. We all do fall short. The idea is about trying and introspection to over time identify your own flaws in your being and improve yourself as a human being in the eye of God. So she and everyone has some introspection to do until they become, or as close as possible to.. 'a perfect being'. But as all are now, is far from perfect. So dont expect someone to be perfect representations of Divinity because they say they are christian or muslim etc. They are students, ignorant of many things they are yet to see and learn in and about themselves. They will have many human faults. The christian woman is supposed to mind her business and develop herself, and as you can see, while she is focussed on finding others' flaws and pointing them out or highlighting them, she neglect to see her own. And so her growth is stunted as a result of not minding her own business. Just like everyone else who can see others flaws and tell them all that they doing wrong, but dont see their own flaws. Of which, many reading will be guilty of and with disbelief may have to be informed by a second opinion that they are not exempt from this group.

The words for the situation are simple. 'Forgive them for they know not what they do' that goes for her, and for you (everyone) who judge others at higher standards than they judge themselves. Because she expect you to be perfect and you expect her to be perfect but all that both of you can figure out from the discourse is that, neither of you are perfect. This should not be surprising.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby eitech » June 15th, 2017, 11:03 pm

sMASH wrote:
bluesclues wrote:
matr1x wrote:The problem is the delusional thinking that God exists in real rather than a fictional character in a story.

I am not requesting god's presence. I am demanding it. But since we all know that he is as real as Santa Claus, no one holding breath.

You want proof of lack of reality when it comes to religion? Visit a baby with a degenerate disease. Any celestial being that is cool with that isn't something good.

I dont remember any commandment or instruction that said to throw white phosphorous on people, use nuclear weapons on eachother, run nuclear plants without proper safety measures to save money, continually commit incest and have children with your sisters and daughters, contaminate the rivers streams and air and cut down the trees and replace organic food with artificial food to save money, or deny people medical treatment because they can't afford it.

When the gene pool was thick incest to a certain degree may have been ok. But when God say stop and start back mixing, and some dont want to listen and keep going diluting their stock more and more. Those effects will pass down and amplify and cause these problems when their family finally start spreading their bloodline at some point back into the human race.

It does have a reason for everything. Today it okay to eat fruits and vegetables but not animals. Tomorrow he say ok you could eat animals now. Reason being he was letting the animals multiply so that their numbers would be able to feed the human race that would be coming forth. During the time when animals are restricted from the menu, if you go and eating animals then you going against the plan. You going to get lix. And then when the animals accomplish his objectives in reproduction he let everyone eat meat. And you get punish because you just didnt listen. You wouldve get to eat meat like everybody without getting punished if you had just listen and wait. Same reason he say when you eat the fruits.. Do not eat the seed. Why? Because he want the seeds to replant when they discard it after they eat the fruit around it and grow more trees to nourish the coming populations. If you gone now and eating seed, and burning it and crushing it you slowing down the plan or... 'going against the grain'.

If you atheists want to be hardcore for real, and real mature. Then stop blaming God. Because it is clear that the world peace and harmony everyone dreams of for the world can only be accomplished by the changing of behaviours and attitudes of US and how we interact with eachother. That all that we have done contrary to the advice in religious texts is what have the world the way it is today. The guidance within the texts is solid. Therefore, every negative aspect of society and living in this entire world is as a consequence of somebody who did not do the right thing when they were supposed to do it. Because they choose to make a selfish decision for selfish personal gain to the detriment of many. Because someone, took something that did not belong to them. Because someone decieved someone else. Because someone cheated. Because someone did something unfair to someone else. Because someone hurt someone(physically or emotionally).

We do this to ourselves.


did u get that highlighted part from your bible or are u using an analogy?


What u are asking is that people live and let live. I have no problem with that.
The problem I haVe is with Christians talking down to other people and denouncing that their ways are wrong, and the only way is a Christian way.

A Christian lady asked me if I was a believer, and when I told her that I believe in but not as she did, she got hot, threw a snide veiled Insult and left. She didn't want to learn or share or even hear something different. All she wanted was to spew her garbage in my ears, and was most upset when I wasn't playing along.


If u Christians speak from the stance that ur view is just ur vview and other people have theirs, then u would get respeCt.
But when u come with the predisposition that everybody else is Nancy story and ur way is the only way, then u will get the return in kind.

Hear this eh, allyuh story does sound just as silly as any nursery rhyme: probably had elements of truth to it in the past, but very convoluted now.

Imagine, a salvation story for the entirety of human kind that a god sacrificed his own son, his only son to save normal people, but didn't take into account that there may be other intelligent life out there, to create another son to sacrifice for their salvation as well.

The symbol of Christianity of the crcifix is so important that your bible said that it followed Jesus out of the tomb. But it was just the means by which he was supposedly killed, and would logically imply that if any other device was used to serve that purpose, that that would haVe followed him out of the tomb.


Everybody entitled to their own belief, but don't think ur opinion is worth anything more than anyone else's, because it is laughable.

Except for the millionaire preachers who able to get poor people to give them money. That is genius.



I appreciate your last paragraph. It showed me again how blinded and feeble you atheists think. It is true what you said about those millionaire preachers. And that is what those preachers push. They push a prosperity gospel and they fool a lot of ppl. And i will tell you again that is not the true gospel. But with your bridle on you keep giddy upin that this is what "christianity" is all about and continue to bring it up as some solid point when in fact you don't understand the truth. So since the truth escapes your weak mind, you jump on something of face value and run away with your imagination like big bird on sesame street.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby sMASH » June 15th, 2017, 11:16 pm

Hoss, loss allyuh does be reading all kinda ting in allyuh bible and drawing all sorts of conclusions that no where near what the words allyuh had read, could contain.

Ah man say god tell people to be vegetarians, so that the animals could repopulate. Then he said he read that with a special eye.

Allyuh don't read with special eyes, allyuh does read with special brain.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 11:20 pm

To understand why God sacrificed his son you have to understand why that is necessary by the way God created this universe to function. It would be easier for me to explain it to someone who is a programmer. Basically the process of a divine being entering our space as a regular man and ascending gave the credit to the human race for producing 'one successful aspirant'. And while that ascended being was here, the spiritual knowledge he disseminated would be the purest form you can get without being in heaven face to face with God. For which you would have to die. So instead God hacked his own computer to cheat for us to get a better gradepoint average and also lowered the passing mark requirement to give us a better chance of earning our way out of absolom and back to paradise.

Just because you dont understand something or WHY something was done doesnt mean it's nonsense. It just means you dont understand. There are things a man simply cannot wrap his mind around sometimes, riddles he is unable to solve even when the answer is easy. This should be known and not justify discarding something because you cant solve the problem. Why should you expect yourself to see every answer and see the solution to every task and obstacle with ease? What you dont see someone else sees and what they cant see you might see with ease.

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Re: The Religion Discussion

Postby bluesclues » June 15th, 2017, 11:26 pm

sMASH wrote:Hoss, loss allyuh does be reading all kinda ting in allyuh bible and drawing all sorts of conclusions that no where near what the words allyuh had read, could contain.

Ah man say god tell people to be vegetarians, so that the animals could repopulate. Then he said he read that with a special eye.

Allyuh don't read with special eyes, allyuh does read with special brain.

After you read it all over it will start to settle in.

Try and bare in mind also why hunting seasons open and close.. to this day.

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