The Religion Discussion

[bluesclues]

i dont think that he cant do it. i just dont think that he did that 'stunt'.
but all things are by him, so if he wants u to follow that, then u have no choice but to follow that, if he wants me to follow this, then i have no choice than to follow this. which is way more simpler than killing his son for repaying of unlawful eating of fruit.

"But he wants you to believe that he did not kill him,he did not crucify him but another was made to resemble him"
Allah fooled Jesus followers of his crucifixion,and resurrection and spawned the birth of Christianity

But you don't believe he did that cause you don't think it made sense

Anything you disagree with concerning what the bible said of Jesus,you now have to convince yourself that it was all part of Allah's great deception but you can't because you don't believe a deceitful person like that can be God
Even though he tells you

well that is the kind of conflict one faces when their interpretation isnt in keeping with the narrative. if you interpret right you dont have that kind of confusion and contradiction in faith or understanding.

i mean. how does it make sense that God would tell ppl to follow christ and then deceive those followers for obeying him.

how does it make sense that supporters and followers of christ would murder him? and have to be punished for it?

makes no sense.

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So I asking a dumb question here.Is the logic :
The Bible/Quran/Whichever book true because it says that it is true?
And that it gets truer ( for want of a better word) with more people believing that it is true?

[eitech]

So I asking a dumb question here.Is the logic :
The Bible/Quran/Whichever book true because it says that it is true?
And that it gets truer ( for want of a better word) with more people believing that it is true?

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. When u hear the gospel and believe, you then know or have the truth. It has nothing to do with the amt of ppl. The gospel asks for one simple act of believing in Jesus. Yet over 440 pages later man cannot grasp that. Such a simple act. You tink man stubborn in joke.

But mankind's behavior past and present is no surprise. The book of revelations even shows that even at the end of the world, with death and plagues and destruction, he remains stubborn even till that time, refusing to change his wicked ways.

I speak with respect to the bible. I dont know what that other book about. I know i have the one truth. Nothing else matters.

[sMASH]

To those that believe in their respective books, yes. To them, it gets truer and truer.

The ting is, no other regions or following in history made it a point to make concerts of people . Most were the belief systems of a people in a place at a time. From the Hindus, to the amerindians, to the Eskimos, to the aborigines.

Christianity is the only religion which has teachings to covert other people to its fold.
It also says worldly knowledge is useless and only worthwhile knowledge is that which comes from its book.

Islam has teachings that there is no compulsion in religion, and though Islam is the best way to live, it is one way amongst many.

Also, one must acquire knowledge from the cradle to the grave. Not just religious knowledge, the universe is there to study and consider. And also to question things rings in Islam itself. Don't just take all of its teachings as inherently true.
Compare it to others, compare it to the world, to the physical universe, to people, to their behaviours, etc.


I cannot tell u Islam is the truth for u. U have that decision to !make on ur own. All I can do is answer questions about if asked, or draw some reference from it if an opportunity arises

To u your way, and to me mine.

[meccalli]

Christianity is the only religion which has teachings to covert other people to its fold.
It also says worldly knowledge is useless and only worthwhile knowledge is that which comes from its book.

[bluesclues]

Well yes. Worldly knowledge is useless. Direct example.

Many people will judge themselves and others based on their accomplishments in life. Whether they got a degree. Whether they got a good job. Whether they move out their mother house. Whether they drive a fancy car or own a boat and know what jennifor lopez eat for breakfast today. But all of that matters not if you dont know how to find God. The book contains the knowledge to find God through gaining his grace. That is the real degree.. OF LIFE. That is the best car to drive.. and Heaven is the best house to live in. Eternal life is the greatest treasure and wealth. Things that the things of this world cannot afford if u lumped all up and packaged it for sale.

That is what the comparison means. Not to stifle curiousity and the pursuit of knowledge. The church has made errors in it's interpretations throughout history. What do you expect.. they are just men.. trying to follow and tow the line for God's grace best they can. They are NOT prophets themselves in 24/7 communion with God's spirit to make no error in such things. Same will go for imams worldwide. They can suffer a lack of perception of depth like any other man. They too can misinterpret. Can happen to the best of scholars. But until he achieves the spirit... nothing can truly be .. for certain.

[eitech]

Wow. Talk about twisting words. Lmao. What shall it profit you if you gain the whole world and lose ur soul? The scriptures never says worldly knowledge is useless. Believers still have to get an education, and work, obey laws of the land. We still have to live in this world. The point of the scripture u twisted is to not to make this world or things thereof the centre of ur life. Christ is at the centre of the believers life. Lol. You brought nothing into this life and you will leave all you earned right here when you die. Lol.

[bluesclues]

So I asking a dumb question here.Is the logic :
The Bible/Quran/Whichever book true because it says that it is true?
And that it gets truer ( for want of a better word) with more people believing that it is true?

The importance of growing congregation is in the duty to preserve the knowledge which has come to us from since ancient times.

See how much of our history we've lost. How many books from the ancients have been destroyed. Religion's aim is to preserve those factual teachings so that will not happen again. So man can always remember his history and come to understand the mysteries of life as they knew it.

For what we have available today is owed to the work of keepers. Those who would save books and leave behind riches. Because they knew what was contained in those books was important and also true. Generations of keepers and different methods of storing and immortalizing important knowledge has been used since the beginning. And our ways of storing information has continually evolved to prevent us from losing information again. From cave drawings, to tree carvings, to symbols and ink on papyrus forward now to the internet and harddrives. Its all about storing information in a way that it can be preserved for future generations unto the ends of the earth. Survive flood and fire and all cataclysm but the information must survive for those who remain. Because we are SURE it is true and on a magnanimous scale of importance to a human being to know.

So what it really is is a bunch of testimonies of truth which have been salvaged and brought to us in the books of the Bible and Quran, Gita all of them. All the religions modern and ancient carry truth and secret knowledge of things man now has to rediscover because he lost it.

[bluesclues]

Wow. Talk about twisting words. Lmao. What shall it profit you if you gain the whole world and lose ur soul? The scriptures never says worldly knowledge is useless. Believers still have to get an education, and work, obey laws of the land. We still have to live in this world. The point of the scripture u twisted is to not to make this world or things thereof the centre of ur life. Christ is at the centre of the believers life. Lol. You brought nothing into this life and you will leave all you earned right here when you die. Lol.

Correct

[eitech]

Well yes. Worldly knowledge is useless. Direct example.

Many people will judge themselves and others based on their accomplishments in life. Whether they got a degree. Whether they got a good job. Whether they move out their mother house. Whether they drive a fancy car or own a boat and know what jennifor lopez eat for breakfast today. But all of that matters not if you dont know how to find God. The book contains the knowledge to find God through gaining his grace. That is the real degree.. OF LIFE. That is the best car to drive.. and Heaven is the best house to live in. Eternal life is the greatest treasure and wealth. Things that the things of this world cannot afford if u lumped all up and packaged it for sale.

That is what the comparison means. Not to stifle curiousity and the pursuit of knowledge. The church has made errors in it's interpretations throughout history. What do you expect.. they are just men.. trying to follow and tow the line for God's grace best they can. They are NOT prophets themselves in 24/7 communion with God's spirit to make no error in such things. Same will go for imams worldwide. They can suffer a lack of perception of depth like any other man. They too can misinterpret. Can happen to the best of scholars. But until he achieves the spirit... nothing can truly be .. for certain.

Understood what ur saying but useless is not the correct word. The wisdom of this world is foolishness. That changes the entire meaning. We still use the worldly wisdom to pass and exam, get a job, do our job, etc. it cannot help us beyond this world. Conversely, we cant write scriptures in the ppl exam, etc But it will prepare us to live here and beyond here


Ephesians 5:15 KJVS
[15] See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise..

[bluesclues]

Well yes. Worldly knowledge is useless. Direct example.

Many people will judge themselves and others based on their accomplishments in life. Whether they got a degree. Whether they got a good job. Whether they move out their mother house. Whether they drive a fancy car or own a boat and know what jennifor lopez eat for breakfast today. But all of that matters not if you dont know how to find God. The book contains the knowledge to find God through gaining his grace. That is the real degree.. OF LIFE. That is the best car to drive.. and Heaven is the best house to live in. Eternal life is the greatest treasure and wealth. Things that the things of this world cannot afford if u lumped all up and packaged it for sale.

That is what the comparison means. Not to stifle curiousity and the pursuit of knowledge. The church has made errors in it's interpretations throughout history. What do you expect.. they are just men.. trying to follow and tow the line for God's grace best they can. They are NOT prophets themselves in 24/7 communion with God's spirit to make no error in such things. Same will go for imams worldwide. They can suffer a lack of perception of depth like any other man. They too can misinterpret. Can happen to the best of scholars. But until he achieves the spirit... nothing can truly be .. for certain.

Understood what ur saying but useless is not the correct word. The wisdom of this world is foolishness. That changes the entire meaning. We still use the worldly wisdom to pass and exam, get a job, do our job, etc. it cannot help us beyond this world. Conversely, we cant write scriptures in the ppl exam, etc But it will prepare us to live here and beyond here


Ephesians 5:15 KJVS
[15] See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise..

Well in my tangent i was focussing on how helpful getting a degree in engineering would be to getting you into heaven. In that context i am referencing whether you can show that degree at the gates of heaven and be granted entry.. to which the answer is an obvious.. no.

There are different requirements than those of a degree.. in the Course of life. And in this point it is possible for a man who cannot even read or write to enter heaven... while a man like say.. 'sheldon from big bang theory' with all they know, might not.

In agreement with what you said.. worldly knowledge for the sake of worldly knowledge is useless/futile/foolish. Worldy knowledge for the sake of finding God is both wise and strongly encouraged.

[sMASH]

Wow. Talk about twisting words. Lmao. What shall it profit you if you gain the whole world and lose ur soul? The scriptures never says worldly knowledge is useless. Believers still have to get an education, and work, obey laws of the land. We still have to live in this world. The point of the scripture u twisted is to not to make this world or things thereof the centre of ur life. Christ is at the centre of the believers life. Lol. You brought nothing into this life and you will leave all you earned right here when you die. Lol.

Those same twisted words is what got hypatia killed, and galleleo arrested.

U say that it merely says that worldly knowledge isn't as important as knowledge, but then u have scriptures that tell u to drink poison and recite the name Jesus and not be affected, to get bitten by creatures, and survive by chanting Jesus' name.

It tells u to do things that science does not allow, also tells u that worldly knowledge isn't good, only bible knowledge is good

[eitech]

Wow. Talk about twisting words. Lmao. What shall it profit you if you gain the whole world and lose ur soul? The scriptures never says worldly knowledge is useless. Believers still have to get an education, and work, obey laws of the land. We still have to live in this world. The point of the scripture u twisted is to not to make this world or things thereof the centre of ur life. Christ is at the centre of the believers life. Lol. You brought nothing into this life and you will leave all you earned right here when you die. Lol.

Those same twisted words is what got hypatia killed, and galleleo arrested.

U say that it merely says that worldly knowledge isn't as important as knowledge, but then u have scriptures that tell u to drink poison and recite the name Jesus and not be affected, to get bitten by creatures, and survive by chanting Jesus' name.

It tells u to do things that science does not allow, also tells u that worldly knowledge isn't good, only bible knowledge is good

I challenge you to quote the scriptures here from the KJV to support those claims in ur second paragraph.

[eitech]

You know what, forget it. Lemme help you. Are these what ur referring to:

Mark 16:18 KJVS
[18] They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


Acts 28:3-6 KJVS
[3] And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand. [4] And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live. [5] And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. [6] Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.

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So I asking a dumb question here.Is the logic :
The Bible/Quran/Whichever book true because it says that it is true?
And that it gets truer ( for want of a better word) with more people believing that it is true?

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. When u hear the gospel and believe, you then know or have the truth. It has nothing to do with the amt of ppl. The gospel asks for one simple act of believing in Jesus. Yet over 440 pages later man cannot grasp that. Such a simple act. You tink man stubborn in joke.

But mankind's behavior past and present is no surprise. The book of revelations even shows that even at the end of the world, with death and plagues and destruction, he remains stubborn even till that time, refusing to change his wicked ways.

I speak with respect to the bible. I dont know what that other book about. I know i have the one truth. Nothing else matters.

I am talking about the truth, not what you believe to be true or choose to believe is true.For exapmle, if you choose to believe that you can fly, because a book said so thats what you believe to be true.When you jump off a building and break your tail, is the actual truth.
In short, why should anybody believe in Jesus?
There is only one book written about him, as opposed to say Harry Potter or Obiwan Kenobi?
If a liar tells you that he speaks the truth, is it the truth?
Similarly, if the only thing telling you that the Bible is true is the Bible itself, can you really be certain that it is the truth?

[eitech]

So I asking a dumb question here.Is the logic :
The Bible/Quran/Whichever book true because it says that it is true?
And that it gets truer ( for want of a better word) with more people believing that it is true?

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. When u hear the gospel and believe, you then know or have the truth. It has nothing to do with the amt of ppl. The gospel asks for one simple act of believing in Jesus. Yet over 440 pages later man cannot grasp that. Such a simple act. You tink man stubborn in joke.

But mankind's behavior past and present is no surprise. The book of revelations even shows that even at the end of the world, with death and plagues and destruction, he remains stubborn even till that time, refusing to change his wicked ways.

I speak with respect to the bible. I dont know what that other book about. I know i have the one truth. Nothing else matters.

I am talking about the truth, not what you believe to be true or choose to believe is true.For exapmle, if you choose to believe that you can fly, because a book said so thats what you believe to be true.When you jump off a building and break your tail, is the actual truth.
In short, why should anybody believe in Jesus?
There is only one book written about him, as opposed to say Harry Potter or Obiwan Kenobi?
If a liar tells you that he speaks the truth, is it the truth?
Similarly, if the only thing telling you that the Bible is true is the Bible itself, can you really be certain that it is the truth?

Well i am in the position to say i believed in Jesus and i have the truth now. If you doubt me, do it yourself. Its no science. Simple as that

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So I asking a dumb question here.Is the logic :
The Bible/Quran/Whichever book true because it says that it is true?
And that it gets truer ( for want of a better word) with more people believing that it is true?

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. When u hear the gospel and believe, you then know or have the truth. It has nothing to do with the amt of ppl. The gospel asks for one simple act of believing in Jesus. Yet over 440 pages later man cannot grasp that. Such a simple act. You tink man stubborn in joke.

But mankind's behavior past and present is no surprise. The book of revelations even shows that even at the end of the world, with death and plagues and destruction, he remains stubborn even till that time, refusing to change his wicked ways.

I speak with respect to the bible. I dont know what that other book about. I know i have the one truth. Nothing else matters.

I am talking about the truth, not what you believe to be true or choose to believe is true.For exapmle, if you choose to believe that you can fly, because a book said so thats what you believe to be true.When you jump off a building and break your tail, is the actual truth.
In short, why should anybody believe in Jesus?
There is only one book written about him, as opposed to say Harry Potter or Obiwan Kenobi?
If a liar tells you that he speaks the truth, is it the truth?
Similarly, if the only thing telling you that the Bible is true is the Bible itself, can you really be certain that it is the truth?

Well i am in the position to say i believed in Jesus and i have the truth now. If you doubt me, do it yourself. Its no science. Simple as that

So if I believe something, it will manifest itself in somewhere other than my mind?

[sMASH]

mark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

in his name drink poison and take snake bite, u will live.



Islam says trust in God and tie ur camel.

[sMASH]

Well yes. Worldly knowledge is useless. Direct example.

Many people will judge themselves and others based on their accomplishments in life. Whether they got a degree. Whether they got a good job. Whether they move out their mother house. Whether they drive a fancy car or own a boat and know what jennifor lopez eat for breakfast today. But all of that matters not if you dont know how to find God. The book contains the knowledge to find God through gaining his grace. That is the real degree.. OF LIFE. That is the best car to drive.. and Heaven is the best house to live in. Eternal life is the greatest treasure and wealth. Things that the things of this world cannot afford if u lumped all up and packaged it for sale.

That is what the comparison means. Not to stifle curiousity and the pursuit of knowledge. The church has made errors in it's interpretations throughout history. What do you expect.. they are just men.. trying to follow and tow the line for God's grace best they can. They are NOT prophets themselves in 24/7 communion with God's spirit to make no error in such things. Same will go for imams worldwide. They can suffer a lack of perception of depth like any other man. They too can misinterpret. Can happen to the best of scholars. But until he achieves the spirit... nothing can truly be .. for certain.

Understood what ur saying but useless is not the correct word. The wisdom of this world is foolishness. That changes the entire meaning. We still use the worldly wisdom to pass and exam, get a job, do our job, etc. it cannot help us beyond this world. Conversely, we cant write scriptures in the ppl exam, etc But it will prepare us to live here and beyond here


Ephesians 5:15 KJVS
[15] See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise..

Well in my tangent i was focussing on how helpful getting a degree in engineering would be to getting you into heaven. In that context i am referencing whether you can show that degree at the gates of heaven and be granted entry.. to which the answer is an obvious.. no.

There are different requirements than those of a degree.. in the Course of life. And in this point it is possible for a man who cannot even read or write to enter heaven... while a man like say.. 'sheldon from big bang theory' with all they know, might not.

In agreement with what you said.. worldly knowledge for the sake of worldly knowledge is useless/futile/foolish. Worldy knowledge for the sake of finding God is both wise and strongly encouraged.

Blueboy spaketh en parables. Didest thou knowest that not?

[eitech]

So I asking a dumb question here.Is the logic :
The Bible/Quran/Whichever book true because it says that it is true?
And that it gets truer ( for want of a better word) with more people believing that it is true?

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. When u hear the gospel and believe, you then know or have the truth. It has nothing to do with the amt of ppl. The gospel asks for one simple act of believing in Jesus. Yet over 440 pages later man cannot grasp that. Such a simple act. You tink man stubborn in joke.

But mankind's behavior past and present is no surprise. The book of revelations even shows that even at the end of the world, with death and plagues and destruction, he remains stubborn even till that time, refusing to change his wicked ways.

I speak with respect to the bible. I dont know what that other book about. I know i have the one truth. Nothing else matters.

I am talking about the truth, not what you believe to be true or choose to believe is true.For exapmle, if you choose to believe that you can fly, because a book said so thats what you believe to be true.When you jump off a building and break your tail, is the actual truth.
In short, why should anybody believe in Jesus?
There is only one book written about him, as opposed to say Harry Potter or Obiwan Kenobi?
If a liar tells you that he speaks the truth, is it the truth?
Similarly, if the only thing telling you that the Bible is true is the Bible itself, can you really be certain that it is the truth?

Well i am in the position to say i believed in Jesus and i have the truth now. If you doubt me, do it yourself. Its no science. Simple as that

[eitech]

mark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

in his name drink poison and take snake bite, u will live.



Islam says trust in God and tie ur camel.

Lol. If u read up top i already knew and posted those verses. And if that is how u interpret those verses, that is sad but not surprising. I would not get into any explanation because you would never, or should say you refuse to learn. But that is your choice at the end of the day. I have nothing to say to you again.

[eitech]

So I asking a dumb question here.Is the logic :
The Bible/Quran/Whichever book true because it says that it is true?
And that it gets truer ( for want of a better word) with more people believing that it is true?

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. When u hear the gospel and believe, you then know or have the truth. It has nothing to do with the amt of ppl. The gospel asks for one simple act of believing in Jesus. Yet over 440 pages later man cannot grasp that. Such a simple act. You tink man stubborn in joke.

But mankind's behavior past and present is no surprise. The book of revelations even shows that even at the end of the world, with death and plagues and destruction, he remains stubborn even till that time, refusing to change his wicked ways.

I speak with respect to the bible. I dont know what that other book about. I know i have the one truth. Nothing else matters.

I am talking about the truth, not what you believe to be true or choose to believe is true.For exapmle, if you choose to believe that you can fly, because a book said so thats what you believe to be true.When you jump off a building and break your tail, is the actual truth.
In short, why should anybody believe in Jesus?
There is only one book written about him, as opposed to say Harry Potter or Obiwan Kenobi?
If a liar tells you that he speaks the truth, is it the truth?
Similarly, if the only thing telling you that the Bible is true is the Bible itself, can you really be certain that it is the truth?

Well i am in the position to say i believed in Jesus and i have the truth now. If you doubt me, do it yourself. Its no science. Simple as that

So if I believe something, it will manifest itself in somewhere other than my mind?

Ephesians 1:13 KJVS
[13] In whom ye also trusted , after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise...

In layman terms, once u truly trust in Jesus, the holy spirit comes and indwells you. That is what is meant by being "born again". Sounds like mumbo jumbo? I thought so jus over 15mths ago. I didn't go to church, no pastor lay hands on me... that was the instructions given to me freely. I sat one evening at home and did that by myself. And this is me one year later trying to give freely what i received freely. Still think its mumbo jumbo? Whatever u wanna believe thats up to you. Oh and the time it took was literally the span of a thought. That long.

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Again you quote the Bible to corroborate itself.But whatever floats your boat i guess.
All i asking is how authentic the Bible is.
You cannot tell me the Bible is authentic because it says it is.That defies normal logic

[sMASH]

U asked,,,, no u dared me to find it. I found it. Was that because u thought it wasn't there?
Why did u ask me to find it?

[eitech]

U asked,,,, no u dared me to find it. I found it. Was that because u thought it wasn't there?
Why did u ask me to find it?

Yes I dared you to find it not because i didn't know where it was, but i couldn't believe you were gonna take those said verses out of context. But you never fail to twist the scripture to your own liking. But i am bored of you now.

[eitech]

Again you quote the Bible to corroborate itself.But whatever floats your boat i guess.
All i asking is how authentic the Bible is.
You cannot tell me the Bible is authentic because it says it is.That defies normal logic

As i said countless times before, God says believe me and i will show you. Man says show me and then i will believe. The latter is not faith. If you trying to use normal logic to define faith, you will never learn. Herein lies your conflict. That's why faith comes by hearing, and wanting to know, not seeing, touching,etc., as you want

[bluesclues]

God been there done that you see. He come to people give them signs and work miracles for them and what they do? Rationalize it away and go back to doing their own thing. So is no longer a circus where God performing tricks to attract customers. If you want to find him and if is the truth.. u have t go look for him. And not everyne who look for him deserve to find him so he will wait and make sure there is a burning in your heart for that one thing.. truly, wanting to know with every fibre of your being, willing to sacrifice everything you cherish to know God while living the way he expects. Then, he will reveal himself to you.

[sMASH]

U asked,,,, no u dared me to find it. I found it. Was that because u thought it wasn't there?
Why did u ask me to find it?

Yes I dared you to find it not because i didn't know where it was, but i couldn't believe you were gonna take those said verses out of context. But you never fail to twist the scripture to your own liking. But i am bored of you now.

So, if u believe that Jesus is God, then say his name, then drink poison u may still die? So, saying the name of Jesus doesn't protect u from death?

[eitech]

You know what, forget it. Lemme help you. Are these what ur referring to:

Mark 16:18 KJVS
[18] They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


Acts 28:3-6 KJVS
[3] And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand. [4] And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live. [5] And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. [6] Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.

What Jesus said in the book of mark 6verse 18 above, he was actually referring to what happened to Paul in the book of Acts 28:3-6 above. When that happened to Paul that was a prophecy fulfilled. And to answer your question, that prophecy was for Paul, not today's christians.


Acts 19:11 KJVS
[11] And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:


Some christian groups preach about taking up snakes and drinkin poison and then call Jesus name. That is wrong. That's what you call not rightly dividing the word.

[sMASH]

mark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

in his name drink poison and take snake bite, u will live.



Islam says trust in God and tie ur camel.

ur pinning that to paul, isnt supported by the english words that were used.
that was taken frm when jesus was supposed to be speaking to his disciples and telling them to go all over the place and preach the gospels, and as proof to the the people that u have special powers, u will get bitten and poisoned and talk all kinda ting and not die.

it isnt even in the wildest realm at all related to paul. and then again, paul was only a christian after jesus' time.