What's going on in the Middle East?

[wing]

Turkey's Erdogan accuses the West of 'barbarism' and Islamophobia in the war in Gaza


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/turkeys-erdog ... 19933.html

Quoting a western mainstream media source? Your Zionist colors showing... yellow, representing cowardice and your dear beloved political party.

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[Kickstart]

Turkey's Erdogan accuses the West of 'barbarism' and Islamophobia in the war in Gaza


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/turkeys-erdog ... 19933.html

Quoting a western mainstream media source? Your Zionist colors showing... yellow, representing cowardice and your dear beloved political party.

Me quoting an article is not my opinion, nor is it as you described.

It is there for all to read and make what they think of it. I have my own judgements, and from time to time, I may make a remake or post another article to refute what is written.

It is up to the reader as to what they think. Either they agree, or they may provide further reading to counteract the article or for the article.

[Kickstart]

While Palestinians are raping and kidnapping and trying to get foreign aid and the world's sympathy, Zionists are taking away their stuff.




Half the "new neighbourhood" comprising 1,738 housing units will be in the city's annexed east, the Israeli NGO Peace Now said.

"If it weren't for the war (between Israel and Hamas), there would be a lot of noise. It's a highly problematic project for the continuity of a Palestinian state between the southern West Bank and east Jerusalem," Peace Now's Hagit Ofran told AFP.

In a statement, the NGO said: "Half of the Lower Aqueduct neighbourhood is situated beyond the Green Line in east Jerusalem, and the other half is within the Green Line.

"However, its strategic location between the neighbourhoods of Givat Hamatos and Har Homa makes it particularly problematic from a political standpoint."

The Green Line refers to the 1949 Armistice Line established at the end of the war that accompanied Israel's founding a year earlier. ...

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 ... usalem-ngo

European Jewish war or no war still means that land grabbing will continue.

Nothing has changed since 1947 and it's nothing new. The war is just another excuse to grab more lands

[wing]

Turkey's Erdogan accuses the West of 'barbarism' and Islamophobia in the war in Gaza


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/turkeys-erdog ... 19933.html

Quoting a western mainstream media source? Your Zionist colors showing... yellow, representing cowardice and your dear beloved political party.

Me quoting an article is not my opinion, nor is it as you described.

It is there for all to read and make what they think of it. I have my own judgements, and from time to time, I may make a remake or post another article to refute what is written.

It is up to the reader as to what they think. Either they agree, or they may provide further reading to counteract the article or for the article.

Yeah, u cherry picking whatever suits you. No problem, except you and your other account insults anything contradictory to your set opinion.

[Kickstart]

Turkey's Erdogan accuses the West of 'barbarism' and Islamophobia in the war in Gaza


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/turkeys-erdog ... 19933.html

Quoting a western mainstream media source? Your Zionist colors showing... yellow, representing cowardice and your dear beloved political party.

Me quoting an article is not my opinion, nor is it as you described.

It is there for all to read and make what they think of it. I have my own judgements, and from time to time, I may make a remake or post another article to refute what is written.

It is up to the reader as to what they think. Either they agree, or they may provide further reading to counteract the article or for the article.

Yeah, u cherry picking whatever suits you. No problem, except you and your other account insults anything contradictory to your set opinion.

Don't know what you are on about about cherry picking. This thread is about what goes on in the Middle East. At present, it's the ongoing dispute between Palestinians and Western Jews. Some articles need to be questioned if fiction or fact. Other posters have produced misleading articles that have been refuted from multiple news sources. Choosing to believe an article without looking at the other side is pure folly. Certain news sources will have you believe that their reporting is the truth, while others will produce a different side of the report. We were all told that the war on Iraq was about weapons of mass destructions when that turned out to be false, so must one continue to believe those same news sources that are now pro Jewish.

[Jerry84]

Turkey's Erdogan accuses the West of 'barbarism' and Islamophobia in the war in Gaza


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/turkeys-erdog ... 19933.html

Quoting a western mainstream media source? Your Zionist colors showing... yellow, representing cowardice and your dear beloved political party.

Me quoting an article is not my opinion, nor is it as you described.

It is there for all to read and make what they think of it. I have my own judgements, and from time to time, I may make a remake or post another article to refute what is written.

It is up to the reader as to what they think. Either they agree, or they may provide further reading to counteract the article or for the article.

Yeah, u cherry picking whatever suits you. No problem, except you and your other account insults anything contradictory to your set opinion.

Don't know what you are on about about cherry picking. This thread is about what goes on in the Middle East. At present, it's the ongoing dispute between Palestinians and Western Jews. Some articles need to be questioned if fiction or fact. Other posters have produced misleading articles that have been refuted from multiple news sources. Choosing to believe an article without looking at the other side is pure folly. Certain news sources will have you believe that their reporting is the truth, while others will produce a different side of the report. We were all told that the war on Iraq was about weapons of mass destructions when that turned out to be false, so must one continue to believe those same news sources that are now pro Jewish.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion; it is unfortunate that some opinions are not based on logic and fairness but rather preferences/allegiance.
It has been proven by the independent masses that the mainstream media is controlled by the Jews. Therefore they are obligated to be bias in their reporting. Not to mention the fake propaganda (which have been proven worldwide) being presented to the world.

However, at this time, independent reputable journalists have been showing the unreported side of this massacre which is the injustice being done to the Palestinians. As a result, people all over the world have started boycotting certain companies who contribute to the distruction of Palestine directly or indirectly to the extent that the famous Starbucks have already reported losses of over 2 billion dollars since October 7th.

What we need to do is take our heads out the sand and stand up for what is right. With an open mind do our research and get the correct information on the history of Palestine and understand what transpired and where and when this all started.

People here who have been saying some time ago that the Palestinians wants to throw the jews out from utilizing the Dome of the Rock as a place of worship, claiming it to be Al Aqsa wasn't aware that it's 2 separate structures and not the same. People here was saying that West Bank was a safe haven yet people are being murdered by the IDF daily which have not been reported. They have also been saying that this is a religious war and not a genocide.

I respect everyone's opinion, but may not agree with all since I have witnessed certain things first hand. I again emplore each and everyone of you to be humanitarian and speak out against the atrocities being committed, more so the slaughter of innocent men, women and children.

[coltspeed]

@Kickstart, remember it have people voting for Rowley still eh. Some ah these fellas no different in here.
Fools that need fooling to stay fooled and spread foolishness!

[Kickstart]

@Kickstart, remember it have people voting for Rowley still eh. Some ah these fellas no different in here.
Fools that need fooling to stay fooled and spread foolishness!

The world is filled with fake news, and it shows that people will sit back and believe an article without hearing the other side. It's called gaslighting, and articles are cleverly written to misdirect the truth. Simple words put into a report can play on feeble minds.

We are now hearing reports of ill treatment on Hamas hostages, but these reports are coming from third parties and pre taped recodings. One knows of the treatment of the hostages but the hostages and Hamas themselves, and these reports are speculations at the moment.

The Hamas so called war is recreated news by selected media houses and governments to gain public trust in fake news. It's also severs to businesses that make money on wars. Look at the people that gain from wars.

The way the world works is that a majority will believe what is written, and that has always been the case. In the end, when everything is finished, then the truth comes out, which always proves the majority was wrong in their judgment. Case in point, the war on Iraq,Libya, Afghanistan was all based on lies .

Perhaps one of the biggest lies told was brexit. The UK people was sold on immigration was a problem. That was a lie. The truth was that the people who own the UK were about to face new EU Labour laws that would dig into big business pockets and cost the businessmen money. Politicians were paid to carry out this lie, the UK after brexit has an even more damaging immigration issues and downed economy. This downed economy does not affect the owners of the UK as they all had hedged bets and profited from the UK downturn.

It's the same with Trinidad Politics, it is all based on lies and the people that own Trinidad.

I am not a fan of UNC nor PNM, I see PNM as the slightly better party cause those with business and money actually gain when PNM in power. On the other hand, those that are salary based will never gain when PNM is in power. People are worse off when PNM is in power cause the money goes to big businesses under the guise that it will benefit citizens. This money never reaches citizens, and people fall for this over and over again.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again

[coltspeed]

Both gov and opposition play the same cards for the same financiers. But otherwise well said. Media personnel worldwide are coming out and exposing and educating us on the play of words and how to see through a fake story using trigger language because of the increasing ridiculous amount of fake propergander being openly pushed on media even on main platforms that were thought to be trusted sources are now viewed as biased reporting.

[Kickstart]

Both gov and opposition play the same cards for the same financiers. But otherwise well said. Media personnel worldwide are coming out and exposing and educating us on the play of words and how to see through a fake story using trigger language because of the increasing ridiculous amount of fake propergander being openly pushed on media even on main platforms that were thought to be trusted sources are now viewed as biased reporting.

Biased reporting is paid reporting, and it is why the BBC refused to call Hamas terrorist. Most news sources are paid to project an image to gain public support, the public does not gain but the investors that paid for fake news gain

[wing]

Both gov and opposition play the same cards for the same financiers. But otherwise well said. Media personnel worldwide are coming out and exposing and educating us on the play of words and how to see through a fake story using trigger language because of the increasing ridiculous amount of fake propergander being openly pushed on media even on main platforms that were thought to be trusted sources are now viewed as biased reporting.

Biased reporting is paid reporting, and it is why the BBC refused to call Hamas terrorist. Most news sources are paid to project an image to gain public support, the public does not gain but the investors that paid for fake news gain

Once again I ask, what are the independent news sources we can trust? I pointed out previously that you quoted a mainstream media source to support your narrative.

[Kickstart]

Both gov and opposition play the same cards for the same financiers. But otherwise well said. Media personnel worldwide are coming out and exposing and educating us on the play of words and how to see through a fake story using trigger language because of the increasing ridiculous amount of fake propergander being openly pushed on media even on main platforms that were thought to be trusted sources are now viewed as biased reporting.

Biased reporting is paid reporting, and it is why the BBC refused to call Hamas terrorist. Most news sources are paid to project an image to gain public support, the public does not gain but the investors that paid for fake news gain

Once again I ask, what are the independent news sources we can trust? I pointed out previously that you quoted a mainstream media source to support your narrative.

That it is something that you would have to seek on your own while carefully reading a variety of reports. It is then up to you to decide what is fact from fiction. Further to this, always look at who are the owners of the news source, what they expect to gain from it. Certain news sources will publish truthful articles from time to time but those are of lesser importance to them as it is only to make them look unbiased.

My opinion on news sources may not agree to you as you may have a different opinion.

Would u prefer to believe the blast or the sunshine newspaper.

Does the Guardian or Express publish mis-truths, or do they hide certain facts to steer the public in a different direction.

In the end, the truth always comes out and the damage is already done. If you are burnt once, then you should by now know how not to get burned again

[Kickstart]

Wing.

This is a report on robbing a Jewish woman. Why you think they would publish this when this happens to other people in society every day

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/girls-aged-13 ... 00354.html

[wing]

Both gov and opposition play the same cards for the same financiers. But otherwise well said. Media personnel worldwide are coming out and exposing and educating us on the play of words and how to see through a fake story using trigger language because of the increasing ridiculous amount of fake propergander being openly pushed on media even on main platforms that were thought to be trusted sources are now viewed as biased reporting.

Biased reporting is paid reporting, and it is why the BBC refused to call Hamas terrorist. Most news sources are paid to project an image to gain public support, the public does not gain but the investors that paid for fake news gain

Once again I ask, what are the independent news sources we can trust? I pointed out previously that you quoted a mainstream media source to support your narrative.

That it is something that you would have to seek on your own while carefully reading a variety of reports. It is then up to you to decide what is fact from fiction. Further to this, always look at who are the owners of the news source, what they expect to gain from it. Certain news sources will publish truthful articles from time to time but those are of lesser importance to them as it is only to make them look unbiased.

My opinion on news sources may not agree to you as you may have a different opinion.

Would u prefer to believe the blast or the sunshine newspaper.

Does the Guardian or Express publish mis-truths, or do they hide certain facts to steer the public in a different direction.

In the end, the truth always comes out and the damage is already done. If you are burnt once, then you should by now know how not to get burned again

So you are saying then, there are news sources who have an agenda but sometimes publish articles to appear impartial. Can we assume then, that if major news corporations can be bought, so could the smaller or even independent media houses? If this is true, then it explains the neverending circle of news and propaganda on all sides, as observed in this forum.

[coltspeed]

Another fake accusation by the IDF. Staged videos of IDF claiming citizens to be Hamas by doing 2 videos of the same scene.

Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxJwJVp77fU

[Kickstart]

Both gov and opposition play the same cards for the same financiers. But otherwise well said. Media personnel worldwide are coming out and exposing and educating us on the play of words and how to see through a fake story using trigger language because of the increasing ridiculous amount of fake propergander being openly pushed on media even on main platforms that were thought to be trusted sources are now viewed as biased reporting.

Biased reporting is paid reporting, and it is why the BBC refused to call Hamas terrorist. Most news sources are paid to project an image to gain public support, the public does not gain but the investors that paid for fake news gain

Once again I ask, what are the independent news sources we can trust? I pointed out previously that you quoted a mainstream media source to support your narrative.

That it is something that you would have to seek on your own while carefully reading a variety of reports. It is then up to you to decide what is fact from fiction. Further to this, always look at who are the owners of the news source, what they expect to gain from it. Certain news sources will publish truthful articles from time to time but those are of lesser importance to them as it is only to make them look unbiased.

My opinion on news sources may not agree to you as you may have a different opinion.

Would u prefer to believe the blast or the sunshine newspaper.

Does the Guardian or Express publish mis-truths, or do they hide certain facts to steer the public in a different direction.

In the end, the truth always comes out and the damage is already done. If you are burnt once, then you should by now know how not to get burned again

So you are saying then, there are news sources who have an agenda but sometimes publish articles to appear impartial. Can we assume then, that if major news corporations can be bought, so could the smaller or even independent media houses? If this is true, then it explains the neverending circle of news and propaganda on all sides, as observed in this forum.

It is up to the reader to separate what is fact from fiction.

Then, it is for the reader to decide if he can continue to believe that news source for further articles, knowing that news source produces misleading articles.

One poster on here continues to post misleading articles that are later refuted by multiple news sources.

You have to decide

[Bad Dog]

Israeli War Vets Admit To Raping & Murdering Palestinians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWka3LDmsIk

Zionist burning food while people are suffering from thirst and hunger.
https://t.me/elespiadigital/17073

Us of A and IDF bombing the future Hamas fighters.
https://t.me/mundomultipolar2022/17366

[alfa]

Another fake accusation by the IDF. Staged videos of IDF claiming citizens to be Hamas by doing 2 videos of the same scene.

Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxJwJVp77fU

So you have to take off clothes before putting down weapon. K

[coltspeed]

What really happened in Israel on Oct. 7?

For all the sensationalism surrounding the events of Oct. 7, when Hamas broke through the Gaza fence and seized territory in the Gaza Envelope as part of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, there is still much that we do not know. The official Israeli death toll from the attack is estimated at 1,200 civilians, revised from an initial estimate of 1,400. Among this figure are several hundred civilians, which Israel says were killed by Hamas militants. Other testimony from survivors of Oct. 7 suggests an alternative explanation—that in its fervor to defeat Hamas, Israeli commanders may have willingly targeted and sacrificed Israeli soldiers and civilians in the crossfire. Max Blumenthal of The Grayzone joins The Chris Hedges Report for an in-depth look.

Take a listen, very interesting from - The Real News Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0gECjlpXF8

[coltspeed]

Gaza is a weapons lab for the arms industry!

Whether it's drone technology or the infamous Pegasus spy software *Used in T&T*, Israel has long developed and refined repressive technologies used by governments around the world by testing them on Palestinians. Antony Loewenstein, journalist and author of The Palestine Laboratory: How Israel Exports the Technology of Occupation Around the World, joins The Chris Hedges Report for a deep dive into the disturbing links between Israeli Apartheid, the arms industry, and global repression of civilian populations.

Source: The Real News Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PEWDLunejA

[Jerry84]

Just leaving this here for consideration.

[Kickstart]

This may be the true picture


ince then, other longer-term objectives have been touted by voices in and around the Israeli government. On Oct. 17, 2023, the Misgav Institute for National Security and Zionist Strategy, an Israeli think tank with links to the government, published a paper arguing that the current military campaign presented “a unique and rare opportunity to evacuate the entire Gaza Strip.”

Meanwhile, a leaked document from Oct. 13, purportedly from the Israeli intelligence ministry, proposed the permanent relocation of all or a portion of Palestinians in Gaza through three steps: set up tent cities in Egypt, create a humanitarian corridor, and build cities on the Sinai Peninsula. The document concluded that the relocation was “liable to provide positive and long-lasting strategic results.”




https://uk.news.yahoo.com/israel-using- ... 52985.html


As the world has seen what these Jews have done to the Palestinians in the west bank. Killing out the west bank population, stealing homes & lands. Making Palestinian life very difficult in the west bank.

Yet still none of the posters on tuner for Jews will talk about this.

[coltspeed]

Yet still none of the posters on tuner for Jews will talk about this.

It was said that they were just getting started .....

[Kickstart]

Yet still none of the posters on tuner for Jews will talk about this.

It was said that they were just getting started .....

They will never speak on the apartheid in the west bank

https://youtu.be/aEdGcej-6D0?si=xm-_haY5BmgLNI1l

[Dizzy28]

Men will claim mainstream news like CNN are not valid sources of data but proceed to cite Max Blumenthal and Grayzone.

Blumenthal who is bought and paid for by Russia and routinely bats for Russia, China and Syria is more trusted apparently in their eyes.

I love this place oui!!!!

[Bad Dog]

The Lies are exposed! The Israel Military appears to show the footage to only Journalist sympathetic to their cause and seek to justify their war crimes in Gaza.
Jones stated that he and the other journalists were “told at the beginning of the screening, the point of this exercise was to encourage us to use our platforms to defend Israel’s onslaught on Gaza.”
From private screenings to media manipulations and outright lies, the Israeli military is pulling out all the stops in its propaganda blitz. Israel's 43-minute Hamas atrocity video exposed “We were told of large-scale beheading, including of 40 babies … [But] we don’t see children being killed … If there was torture, no evidence is given ... If there was rape and sexual violence committed, we don’t see this on the footage either.”
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/israe ... eo-exposed

[Kickstart]

Men will claim mainstream news like CNN are not valid sources of data but proceed to cite Max Blumenthal and Grayzone.

Blumenthal who is bought and paid for by Russia and routinely bats for Russia, China and Syria is more trusted apparently in their eyes.

I love this place oui!!!!

CNN was one of those news sources that positioned the public to believe that the war on Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and Iran were all justified.

If you and others prefer buying rotten goods from the same store, then by all means, continue to do so


https://www.camera.org/article/tracking ... th-israel/

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/c ... ader-chief

[Jerry84]

Men will claim mainstream news like CNN are not valid sources of data but proceed to cite Max Blumenthal and Grayzone.

Blumenthal who is bought and paid for by Russia and routinely bats for Russia, China and Syria is more trusted apparently in their eyes.

I love this place oui!!!!

Are you aware that Israel is currently bombing parts of Syria as well? So despite the unjustified slaughter of innocent men women and children in Gaza, West Bank and to the lesser extent Tel Aviv, they have started their "ethnic cleansing" in Syria.

Allyuh brutal yes.

[Dizzy28]

Men will claim mainstream news like CNN are not valid sources of data but proceed to cite Max Blumenthal and Grayzone.

Blumenthal who is bought and paid for by Russia and routinely bats for Russia, China and Syria is more trusted apparently in their eyes.

I love this place oui!!!!

Are you aware that Israel is currently bombing parts of Syria as well? So despite the unjustified slaughter of innocent men women and children in Gaza, West Bank and to the lesser extent Tel Aviv, they have started their "ethnic cleansing" in Syria.

Allyuh brutal yes.

Moscow Max tell you that?