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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Jerry84 » December 8th, 2023, 10:48 am

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A senior officer now reveals that Hamas broke the truce much earlier, in fact just 15 minutes after it began, on November 24.

“We were here, well prepared,” said Lt. Col. (res.) Yisrael — his last name was withheld by the IDF for security concerns — the commander of the 261st Brigade’s 8717th “Alon” Battalion, to The Times of Israel and other reporters in the Palestinian town of Salatin, on the outskirts of Jabaliya, in northern Gaza.

“At 7 a.m. the ceasefire started, and at 7:15 a.m., dozens of terrorists ran toward us from every direction. Some of them opened fire and our forces killed them. Between 7:15 a.m. and 8:30 a.m., we killed 20 terrorists. And then they realized they shouldn’t mess with us, and we stopped their assault,” Yisrael said.

Noting one specific incident, he said that at around 7:15 a.m. on November 24, a Palestinian family had attempted to return to their home in the area. As the family approached their building, shots were fired at Israeli troops from an adjacent home, he said.

“The troops returned fire, I don’t know if we hit [the operative], he likely fled,” Yisrael said. “The next morning we arrived [at the building] and found his Kalashnikov [assault rifle], his uniform. It just shows their method of operating. The terrorist had arrived under the auspices of the family. They have no mercy for their own families, for their children,” he said.

Yisrael said the Hamas operatives are fighting like “cowards.”

“They don’t really try to face us, but to sting here and there. Their method of operating is fleeing in civilian clothes, leaving behind their uniform, their guns, anti-tank missiles, explosives, and they just run. After we leave the area, they return and attack the next forces,” he said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-bro ... icer-says/
Remember, the IDF official, when questioned by the UN Journalist indicated that according to their scriptures, they allowed to lie. So carry on.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Bad Dog » December 8th, 2023, 11:19 am

adnj wrote:
Bad Dog wrote:
adnj wrote:
Bad Dog wrote:Biden the liar said that he saw pictures of dead babies, women were raped, assaulted, paraded as trophies, and we uphold the laws of war. Since, they could not prove that babies were beheaded and hang out on clothesline, they are pushing the rape claim to demonize Hamas and looking for sympathy from Tuner Zionists.
Anti-Zionists are now labelled Anti-Semitic. The House of Representatives Rules that Anti-Zionism Is Antisemitism even though many Orthodox Jews, and secular dissenters, remain opposed to Zionism. Real Jews oppose Zionism.
https://www.thenation.com/article/polit ... esolution/


Unless Israeli toddlers were killing themselves on October 7th, Biden was probably shown photos and videos.

One of them was a baby under the age of one year — 10-month-old Mila Cohen, killed with her father and grandmother.

According to data by Haaretz, a Bedouin woman at the tail end of her pregnancy was shot in the abdomen while heading to the hospital to give birth, where doctors delivered the baby, but failed to save it.

Additionally, 12 children aged 1 to 9 — 10 boys and two girls — were murdered in the Hamas massacres.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=761813&start=2100#p10391742

Biden the liar never saw anything... repeats Israel Lies.
President Joe Biden painted a vivid picture of the horrors of the Israel-Hamas war in remarks to Jewish community leaders the White House later had to clarify his claims Biden's claim he saw photos of terrorists beheading children in Israel-Hamas war. After the comments, the White House clarified that Biden had read news reports.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... rcna119865

“A White House spokesperson later clarified that US officials and the president have not seen pictures or confirmed such reports independently,”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/ ... d-by-hamas

White House official said that neither Biden nor the administration had seen these images and that Biden was referring to comments from Israeli officials and reports in the media.
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And yet another well-coordinated global conspiracy theory takes root.



No evidence of 40 decapitated babies...NONE! When you continue to support and spread lies you are the liar.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby wing » December 8th, 2023, 2:32 pm

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CNN — Simchat Greyman had to pause several times when describing the evidence of sexual violence he saw when recovering bodies of victims of the October 7 Hamas terror attack on Israel.

One body was so severely brutalized that he and his colleagues from ZAKA, the ultra-orthodox Jewish human remains recovery organization, couldn’t tell whether it was a man or a woman.

Greyman described finding a woman who was shot in the back of her head, lying on her bed, naked from her waist down. A live grenade was planted in her hand.

And then there was the body with the nails.

“I was called into a house, I was told there are few bodies over there. I saw in front of my eyes a woman, laying (down). She was naked and she had nails …,” Greyman managed to say before pausing for a long time, struggling to get the words out.

“She had nails and different objects in her female organs. Her body was brutalized in a way that we could not identify her,” he added, the trauma clearly visible on his face.

Greyman was testifying at a United Nations session on sexual and gender-based violence in the October 7 Hamas terror attack, hosted by Israel at the UN headquarters in New York on Monday.

He was one of several eyewitnesses invited to address the meeting, providing evidence that sexual violence and rape occurred and were weaponized by Hamas during the attacks.

CNN cannot independently verify individual allegations and claims. However, several first responders who attended the scenes of the October 7 attack told CNN the attacks were overwhelmingly gruesome and that some female victims were found undressed.

Mounting evidence
The evidence of sexual violence presented during the session at the UN was ample and overwhelming and came from different sources.

While Greyman spoke about his experience from the search and rescue operations, Yael Richert, a superintendent with the Israel Police, shared information gathered during the investigation so far.

She said survivors of the terror attack told investigators they witnessed Hamas terrorists perpetrating sexual violence against the victims. She quoted testimonies of several individuals all of whom either directly witnessed sexual violence or saw clear evidence of it.

“There were girls with broken pelvis due to repetitive rapes, their legs were split wide apart in a split,” Richert quoted one survivor of the Nova music festival massacre as saying.

“We heard girls that were pulled out from the shelters. Girls that shouted. They raped girls. Burnt them just after that. All the bodies outside were burnt,” Richert said, reading from another testimony.

Shari Mendes, an Israel Defense Forces (IDF) reservist who looked after the bodies of female soldiers killed during the attack, also described the evidence she saw, saying many of the bodies arrived in “bloody shredded rags or just an underwear and their underwear was often very bloody.”

Photographs and videos from the scenes back Mendes’ accounts. A video geolocated by CNN to a neighborhood in Gaza, showed a young, barefoot woman pulled from the trunk of a Jeep by a gunman and then forced into the backseat of the car. Her trousers were soaked with what appeared to be blood.

“Our team commander saw several female soldiers who were shot in their crotch, intimate parts, vagina, or shot in the breast. There seem to be a systematic genital mutilation of a group of victims,” she added. ...

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/06/midd ... index.html
CNN?? Really??
In the interest of impartial opinion making, please indicate the neutral media sources which we can get information that's not biased. To note, I don't consider social media as a credible source of anything of truth or intelligence. Jazakallah in advance.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Bad Dog » December 8th, 2023, 3:50 pm

adnj wrote:
Bad Dog wrote:
adnj wrote:
Bad Dog wrote:
adnj wrote:
Bad Dog wrote:Biden the liar said that he saw pictures of dead babies, women were raped, assaulted, paraded as trophies, and we uphold the laws of war. Since, they could not prove that babies were beheaded and hang out on clothesline, they are pushing the rape claim to demonize Hamas and looking for sympathy from Tuner Zionists.
Anti-Zionists are now labelled Anti-Semitic. The House of Representatives Rules that Anti-Zionism Is Antisemitism even though many Orthodox Jews, and secular dissenters, remain opposed to Zionism. Real Jews oppose Zionism.
https://www.thenation.com/article/polit ... esolution/


Unless Israeli toddlers were killing themselves on October 7th, Biden was probably shown photos and videos.

One of them was a baby under the age of one year — 10-month-old Mila Cohen, killed with her father and grandmother.

According to data by Haaretz, a Bedouin woman at the tail end of her pregnancy was shot in the abdomen while heading to the hospital to give birth, where doctors delivered the baby, but failed to save it.

Additionally, 12 children aged 1 to 9 — 10 boys and two girls — were murdered in the Hamas massacres.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=761813&start=2100#p10391742

Biden the liar never saw anything... repeats Israel Lies.
President Joe Biden painted a vivid picture of the horrors of the Israel-Hamas war in remarks to Jewish community leaders the White House later had to clarify his claims Biden's claim he saw photos of terrorists beheading children in Israel-Hamas war. After the comments, the White House clarified that Biden had read news reports.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... rcna119865

“A White House spokesperson later clarified that US officials and the president have not seen pictures or confirmed such reports independently,”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/ ... d-by-hamas

White House official said that neither Biden nor the administration had seen these images and that Biden was referring to comments from Israeli officials and reports in the media.
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And yet another well-coordinated global conspiracy theory takes root.



No evidence of 40 decapitated babies...NONE! When you continue to support and spread lies you are the liar.
Unless you can point to where one of my posts mentioned your specific accusations, you have just gleefully put yourself in the position of being the actual prevaricator.

I am talking about Biden the liar.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Kickstart » December 8th, 2023, 7:02 pm

adnj wrote:US blocks UN Security Council demand for humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 023-12-08/
Nothing new

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Kickstart » December 8th, 2023, 7:07 pm

Two Palestinian boys killed during Jewish raid in West Bank.

Aged 8 & 14


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67572278

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » December 8th, 2023, 9:35 pm

The parents of those boys need to be shot.
Allowing your kids to be out and hurling bombs at Israeli soldiers when those soldiers would clearly be on edge due to the war with Hamas.

Haters will say the video of the boys lighting and throwing the bombs is fake because they need an affidavit sworn by the Mufti of Jerusalem for it to be real.
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zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Zionists continue to murder an unarmed 8 year old boy in the west bank .


Just look at the CNN report, fvck these Zionists murdering Conts


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/israeli-troop ... 29607.html


Cowards Zionists Conts

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67572278
Why are you relying on mainstream media? It seems like you are a Zionist at heart.
Kickstart wrote:Two Palestinian boys killed during Jewish raid in West Bank.

Aged 8 & 14


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67572278
https://trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10390946#p10390946
I'll let you big brains go find the video on your own since you wouldn't believe it amyhows.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Bad Dog » December 8th, 2023, 10:33 pm

Kickstart wrote:
adnj wrote:US blocks UN Security Council demand for humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 023-12-08/
Nothing new

Not surprising, this was expected as we already know the Israel Lobby controls the US of A.
Biden is a demented and crooked puppet...so who is calling the shots? The same Zionist bankers who created Israel and now owns the Fed, Congress, MSN and just about everything else in the US.
The threshold was set in 2015 when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu extracted from the lawmakers on the Hill in Washington an invitation to him to visit the US, bypassing the proper channel of President Barack Obama (another puppet my emphasis), and address a joint session of the Congress. Netanyahu not only belittled Obama and showed that his clout with the power brokers in Washington was greater than the president’s. He got away with it because the American political elites were in the payroll of the Israel Lobby.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Kickstart » December 9th, 2023, 8:25 am

Dizzy28 wrote:The parents of those boys need to be shot.
Allowing your kids to be out and hurling bombs at Israeli soldiers when those soldiers would clearly be on edge due to the war with Hamas.

Haters will say the video of the boys lighting and throwing the bombs is fake because they need an affidavit sworn by the Mufti of Jerusalem for it to be real.
adnj wrote:
wing wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Zionists continue to murder an unarmed 8 year old boy in the west bank .


Just look at the CNN report, fvck these Zionists murdering Conts


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/israeli-troop ... 29607.html


Cowards Zionists Conts

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67572278
Why are you relying on mainstream media? It seems like you are a Zionist at heart.
Kickstart wrote:Two Palestinian boys killed during Jewish raid in West Bank.

Aged 8 & 14


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67572278
https://trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10390946#p10390946
I'll let you big brains go find the video on your own since you wouldn't believe it amyhows.
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Wow now is parents needed to be shot. That's nothing new as Palestinians get killed everyday since the arrival of European Jews in 1947.

Kids walking on their own lands and getting abused by European Jews, beaten, put in jails as young as 5years old.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby coltspeed » December 9th, 2023, 8:55 am

‘Double standards’: World reacts to US veto on Gaza truce resolution at UN

International rights groups say US ‘risks complicity in war crimes’, has ‘callous disregard for civilian suffering’.


World leaders, international rights groups and United Nations officials have criticised the United States for vetoing a UN resolution calling for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza and failing to halt the war that has killed more than 17,400 Palestinians and about 1,100 people in Israel since October 7.

A UN resolution on the pause in hostilities failed to pass on Friday at the UN Security Council after the United States vetoed the proposal and Britain abstained.

The remaining 13 of the 15 current members of the UNSC voted in favour of the resolution put forward by the United Arab Emirates and co-sponsored by 100 other countries.

Amnesty International

Agnes Callamard, Amnesty’s secretary general, said on X that the US veto “displays a callous disregard for civilian suffering in the face of a staggering death toll”. The statement also said that Washington “has brazenly wielded and weaponized its veto to strongarm the UN Security Council, further undermining its credibility and ability to live up to its mandate to maintain international peace and security”.

Doctors Without Borders

Avril Benoit, executive director of Doctors Without Borders (Medecins Sans Frontieres, or MSF) USA: “By vetoing this resolution, the US stands alone in casting its vote against humanity. The US veto stands in sharp contrast to the values it professes to uphold. By continuing to provide diplomatic cover for the ongoing atrocities in Gaza, the US is signaling that international humanitarian law can be applied selectively — and that the lives of some people matter less than the lives of others …. The US veto makes it complicit in the carnage in Gaza.”


Human Rights Watch

The international rights groups released a statement saying: “By continuing to provide Israel with weapons [and] diplomatic cover as it commits atrocities, including collectively punishing the Palestinian civilian population in Gaza, the US risks complicity in war crimes.”

Posting on X, HRW’s former executive director, Kenneth Roth, said: “The US government vetoes a UN Security Council call for a Gaza ceasefire. The US cites Israel’s right to defend itself from Hamas, but does Biden really think that pummeling Palestinian civilians in Gaza is accomplishing that? Or building the next Hamas?”

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » December 9th, 2023, 9:17 am

US vetoes a resolution - panic!!!!!

Russia vetoes every resolution on Syria, China usually abstains - calm!!!

Anyone even know what the death toll is in Syria?
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Postby Kickstart » December 9th, 2023, 11:20 am

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Rockets fired at Israel on Wednesday were launched from within humanitarian zones set up in Gaza to allow civilians a safe haven, Israel’s military charged Thursday, as troops pressed into major Hamas strongholds in northern and southern Gaza amid heavy fighting.

According to the Israel Defense Forces, two separate rocket attacks Wednesday afternoon, including a large barrage aimed at Negev metropolis Beersheba, were fired from the vicinity of areas that are supposed to be free of hostilities, putting civilians at risk.

“At 3:59 p.m., Hamas terrorists launched 12 rockets toward Israeli civilians in the city of Beersheba in southern Israel. The rockets were launched from near tents of evacuated Gazan civilians in Rafah in southern Gaza and from next to United Nations facilities,” the IDF said in a statement.

It said a rocket was also fired three hours earlier “from inside a humanitarian zone. The rocket misfired, putting many Gazan civilians at risk.”

The evacuation zones are areas designated by the IDF as safe for civilians within the Gaza Strip.

Israel has long accused Gaza-based terror groups of using Palestinians in the Strip as human shields, operating from sites including schools and hospitals which are supposed to be protected.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says- ... r-shelter/
IDF can say anything which is normally fake news

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Kickstart » December 9th, 2023, 11:25 am

adnj wrote:Inside the Hamas summer training camp for Gaza teens | ITV News

Teenagers living in Hamas-controlled Gaza spend their summer holidays preparing for the next possible battle with their neighbours in Israel. ITV News' Middle East correspondent Geraint Vincent reports.

Propaganda news

European jews have their own army that abuse Palestinians. Palestinians have every right to defend themselves.

If Jew's have nuclear weapons then other nations should have the same. You can't have one law for European Jews and not Palestinians

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Kickstart » December 9th, 2023, 11:26 am

adnj wrote:Teenagers have been in the West Bank and Gaza throwing stones, firecrackers, Molotov cocktails, and hand grenades for years. They are firing Kalashnikovs and RPGs.

Their parents send them. Their government sends them. They are being shot because of it. And they are dying.

How does Hamas create the perfect, disposable foot soldier? Hamas indoctrinates teens using the same methods that drug cartels do.

Mideast in Pictures: Hamas trains Palestinian teenagers for fighting

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Palestinian teenage boys hold toy guns during a military training course at a summer camp run by Hamas at the Al-Yarmouk military site, east of Gaza City, on June 26, 2021. (Photo by Rizek Abdeljawad/Xinhua)

GAZA, June 27 (Xinhua) -- The Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), which rules the Palestinian coastal enclave of Gaza Strip, recruits teenage boys to a military summer camp to train them for fighting.

The boys receive trainings in using guns, climbing over burning barriers, crawling under bars, and overcoming other physical challenges.

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Palestinian teenage boys receive training on fighting at a military summer camp run by Hamas at the Al-Yarmouk military site, east of Gaza City, on June 26, 2021. (Photo by Rizek Abdeljawad/Xinhua)

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A Palestinian boy climbs over the burning barrier at a military summer camp run by Hamas at the Al-Yarmouk military site, east of Gaza City, on June 26, 2021. (Photo by Rizek Abdeljawad/Xinhua)

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Palestinian teenage boys receive training on assembling a gun at a military summer camp run by Hamas at the Al-Yarmouk military site, east of Gaza City, on June 26, 2021. (Photo by Rizek Abdeljawad/Xinhua)

http://www.news.cn/english/2021-06/28/c_1310031080.htm


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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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adnj wrote:Inside the Hamas summer training camp for Gaza teens | ITV News

Teenagers living in Hamas-controlled Gaza spend their summer holidays preparing for the next possible battle with their neighbours in Israel. ITV News' Middle East correspondent Geraint Vincent reports.


How is this any different from the conscription force that Israel has other then them being training by a professional military in Israel? Palestine has the same right to have it's citizens defend themselves especially seeing that they don't have an official military

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Just to digress for a bit...

How come as soon as a certain user is banned, another user reappears with no attempt to at least appear different.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Kickstart » December 9th, 2023, 1:14 pm

alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:Inside the Hamas summer training camp for Gaza teens | ITV News

Teenagers living in Hamas-controlled Gaza spend their summer holidays preparing for the next possible battle with their neighbours in Israel. ITV News' Middle East correspondent Geraint Vincent reports.


How is this any different from the conscription force that Israel has other then them being training by a professional military in Israel? Palestine has the same right to have it's citizens defend themselves especially seeing that they don't have an official military
European Jews believe that Palestinians must not protect themselves.

This is same European Jews that are against Iran from having nuclear weapons, but Jews must have nuclear arms for themselves.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Kickstart » December 9th, 2023, 1:16 pm

Turkey's Erdogan accuses the West of 'barbarism' and Islamophobia in the war in Gaza


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/turkeys-erdog ... 19933.html

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