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Postby paid_influencer » July 20th, 2021, 9:37 pm

if you think hover11 is anti-vax, don't put on synergyTV in the morning or your head might explode

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Postby j.o.e » July 20th, 2021, 10:13 pm

Giving this thread a rest , too much misinformation being spread

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Postby hover11 » July 20th, 2021, 10:24 pm

Health it was a typo

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Postby paid_influencer » July 20th, 2021, 10:32 pm

bluefete wrote:NO VACCINE is effective in preventing someone from getting Covid. NONE! Not from the western or eastern worlds. That much has been proven.


https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... ess-pfizer

Findings from the analysis were derived from de-identified aggregate Israel MoH surveillance data collected between January 17 and March 6, 2021, when the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine was the only vaccine available in the country and when the more transmissible B.1.1.7 variant of SARS-CoV-2 (formerly referred to as the U.K. variant) was the dominant strain. Vaccine effectiveness was at least 97% against symptomatic COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, severe and critical hospitalizations, and deaths. Furthermore, the analysis found a vaccine effectiveness of 94% against asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections. For all outcomes, vaccine effectiveness was measured from two weeks after the second dose.


This was from before the Delta variant tho

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Postby drchaos » July 21st, 2021, 12:06 am

bluefete wrote:^^ LOL.

Now, you will NEVER read this in any Western media:


Tuesday, July 20, 2021

Sri Lanka's study finds Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine highly efficient against Delta variant

Source: Xinhua| 2021-07-20 23:04:25|Editor: huaxia

COLOMBO, July 20 (Xinhua) -- Researchers from one of Sri Lanka's leading universities, the Sri Jayewardenepura University, have found that China's Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine is highly efficient against the Delta variant which has become the dominant variant across the world.

"This vaccine was found very effective for the Delta variant as well. The antibody responses to delta variant and neutralizing antibodies were similar to levels seen following natural infection," the University said on its website on Monday.

According to the study, 95 percent of individuals who received two doses of the Sinopharm vaccine have developed antibodies similar to a naturally infected COVID-19 person.

The study showed that two doses of Sinopharm vaccine produced neutralizing antibodies in 81.25 percent of recipients and that these antibody levels were similar to what would occur after surviving a natural infection of COVID-19.

The research team included Sri Lankan scientists Prof. Neelika Malavige, head of the Immunology and Molecular Medicine Department of the Sri Jayewardenepura University, her colleague Dr. Chandima Jeewandara and Oxford University researchers Prof. Graham Ogg and Prof. Alain Townsend.

Prof. Neelika told Xinhua that Sinopharm is the most used vaccine being rolled out in Sri Lanka presently due to the availability of stocks in the country.

To date, 4.63 million people in Sri Lanka have received the first dose of Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine, and 1.29 million others had received the second dose of the vaccine. No single severe side effect case relevant to the vaccine has been reported.

Prof. Malavige said this study is the first of its kind to be published in the world and experts looked at every possible angle of the immune system from the Sinopharm jab.

The vaccine was also compared to the Alpha and Beta variants of the virus as well as the original virus.

"The conclusion of this report is that when it comes to Delta and other variants, the Sinopharm vaccine induces similar levels of antibody responses as people who have naturally been infected, Which is very good," Prof. Malavige said.

"Between the age groups of 20 to 40, 98 percent developed antibodies while in the age group of over 60, 93 percent developed antibodies. This is not surprising as older people respond less to vaccines," the Professor added.

She said this data on the Sinopharm did not turn up to the world before, and such real-world data was important to build up vaccine confidence domestically and internationally. Enditem

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/asiapa ... 073227.htm


This article is not giving you the whole picture.

Antibody's are not everything in a immune response to a viral infection.
Antibodies are only part of adaptive immune systems response, the other piece of the puzzle is cell mediated response or T cell response.

T cells hunt down virally infected cells and direct the immune response. Your antibodies mop up viruses in the plasma and blood and mark cells that have been infected.

It has been postulated that inactivated vaccines like Sinopharm give good B cell/antibody responses but give less than adequate T cell response .

The new vaccines like Viral Vector (Astra/J&J) and mRNA vaccines (Moderna/Pfizer) help to initiate T cell responses and B cell antibody production. This is why they are superior in terms of efficacy.

There is a reason why the world moved beyond Inactivated vaccines a long time ago.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 21st, 2021, 2:16 am

bluefete wrote:It is interesting, though, that you were quick to jump on news reported from China.

I am not against the Chinese vaccine.
I took the Sinopharm vaccine myself. It is the one that is available.

Just pointing out that the Chinese vaccine data you posted came from the Chinese govt news agency.

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Postby RedVEVO » July 21st, 2021, 2:50 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
bluefete wrote:It is interesting, though, that you were quick to jump on news reported from China.

I am not against the Chinese vaccine.
I took the Sinopharm vaccine myself. It is the one that is available.

Just pointing out that the Chinese vaccine data you posted came from the Chinese govt news agency.


I am not against the Chinese vaccine.
I took the Sinopharm vaccine myself. It is the one that is available.
Just point .. 我不反对中国疫苗。
我自己打了国药疫苗。它是可用的。



A few moments later ...

COVID deaths reach 1000

Translation : 1000 Dead

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/covid-d ... irculation

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Postby hover11 » July 21st, 2021, 11:06 am

You not worried about how the Chinese hide stuff?
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
bluefete wrote:It is interesting, though, that you were quick to jump on news reported from China.

I am not against the Chinese vaccine.
I took the Sinopharm vaccine myself. It is the one that is available.

Just pointing out that the Chinese vaccine data you posted came from the Chinese govt news agency.

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Postby MaxPower » July 21st, 2021, 11:13 am

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Team,

Look at the faces of those on the front page that lost their lives due to Covid 19.

Can anyone tell me what are the distinct similarities?

We can rule out race.

But what else?

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Postby paid_influencer » July 21st, 2021, 2:41 pm

plenty frontline workers

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Postby MaxPower » July 21st, 2021, 2:52 pm

paid_influencer wrote:plenty frontline workers


Good answer.

What i was getting at is most of them look a little on the overweight side.

Anyways, maybe it’s a coincidence.

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Postby Mmoney607 » July 21st, 2021, 3:21 pm

drchaos wrote:
bluefete wrote:^^ LOL.

Now, you will NEVER read this in any Western media:


Tuesday, July 20, 2021

Sri Lanka's study finds Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine highly efficient against Delta variant

Source: Xinhua| 2021-07-20 23:04:25|Editor: huaxia

COLOMBO, July 20 (Xinhua) -- Researchers from one of Sri Lanka's leading universities, the Sri Jayewardenepura University, have found that China's Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine is highly efficient against the Delta variant which has become the dominant variant across the world.

"This vaccine was found very effective for the Delta variant as well. The antibody responses to delta variant and neutralizing antibodies were similar to levels seen following natural infection," the University said on its website on Monday.

According to the study, 95 percent of individuals who received two doses of the Sinopharm vaccine have developed antibodies similar to a naturally infected COVID-19 person.

The study showed that two doses of Sinopharm vaccine produced neutralizing antibodies in 81.25 percent of recipients and that these antibody levels were similar to what would occur after surviving a natural infection of COVID-19.

The research team included Sri Lankan scientists Prof. Neelika Malavige, head of the Immunology and Molecular Medicine Department of the Sri Jayewardenepura University, her colleague Dr. Chandima Jeewandara and Oxford University researchers Prof. Graham Ogg and Prof. Alain Townsend.

Prof. Neelika told Xinhua that Sinopharm is the most used vaccine being rolled out in Sri Lanka presently due to the availability of stocks in the country.

To date, 4.63 million people in Sri Lanka have received the first dose of Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine, and 1.29 million others had received the second dose of the vaccine. No single severe side effect case relevant to the vaccine has been reported.

Prof. Malavige said this study is the first of its kind to be published in the world and experts looked at every possible angle of the immune system from the Sinopharm jab.

The vaccine was also compared to the Alpha and Beta variants of the virus as well as the original virus.

"The conclusion of this report is that when it comes to Delta and other variants, the Sinopharm vaccine induces similar levels of antibody responses as people who have naturally been infected, Which is very good," Prof. Malavige said.

"Between the age groups of 20 to 40, 98 percent developed antibodies while in the age group of over 60, 93 percent developed antibodies. This is not surprising as older people respond less to vaccines," the Professor added.

She said this data on the Sinopharm did not turn up to the world before, and such real-world data was important to build up vaccine confidence domestically and internationally. Enditem

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/asiapa ... 073227.htm


This article is not giving you the whole picture.

Antibody's are not everything in a immune response to a viral infection.
Antibodies are only part of adaptive immune systems response, the other piece of the puzzle is cell mediated response or T cell response.

T cells hunt down virally infected cells and direct the immune response. Your antibodies mop up viruses in the plasma and blood and mark cells that have been infected.

It has been postulated that inactivated vaccines like Sinopharm give good B cell/antibody responses but give less than adequate T cell response .

The new vaccines like Viral Vector (Astra/J&J) and mRNA vaccines (Moderna/Pfizer) help to initiate T cell responses and B cell antibody production. This is why they are superior in terms of efficacy.

There is a reason why the world moved beyond Inactivated vaccines a long time ago.


Nobody want to respond to this one boy. Hmmmm...

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Postby De Dragon » July 21st, 2021, 3:25 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
bluefete wrote:^^ LOL.

Now, you will NEVER read this in any Western media:


Tuesday, July 20, 2021

Sri Lanka's study finds Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine highly efficient against Delta variant

Source: Xinhua| 2021-07-20 23:04:25|Editor: huaxia

COLOMBO, July 20 (Xinhua) -- Researchers from one of Sri Lanka's leading universities, the Sri Jayewardenepura University, have found that China's Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine is highly efficient against the Delta variant which has become the dominant variant across the world.

"This vaccine was found very effective for the Delta variant as well. The antibody responses to delta variant and neutralizing antibodies were similar to levels seen following natural infection," the University said on its website on Monday.

According to the study, 95 percent of individuals who received two doses of the Sinopharm vaccine have developed antibodies similar to a naturally infected COVID-19 person.

The study showed that two doses of Sinopharm vaccine produced neutralizing antibodies in 81.25 percent of recipients and that these antibody levels were similar to what would occur after surviving a natural infection of COVID-19.

The research team included Sri Lankan scientists Prof. Neelika Malavige, head of the Immunology and Molecular Medicine Department of the Sri Jayewardenepura University, her colleague Dr. Chandima Jeewandara and Oxford University researchers Prof. Graham Ogg and Prof. Alain Townsend.

Prof. Neelika told Xinhua that Sinopharm is the most used vaccine being rolled out in Sri Lanka presently due to the availability of stocks in the country.

To date, 4.63 million people in Sri Lanka have received the first dose of Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine, and 1.29 million others had received the second dose of the vaccine. No single severe side effect case relevant to the vaccine has been reported.

Prof. Malavige said this study is the first of its kind to be published in the world and experts looked at every possible angle of the immune system from the Sinopharm jab.

The vaccine was also compared to the Alpha and Beta variants of the virus as well as the original virus.

"The conclusion of this report is that when it comes to Delta and other variants, the Sinopharm vaccine induces similar levels of antibody responses as people who have naturally been infected, Which is very good," Prof. Malavige said.

"Between the age groups of 20 to 40, 98 percent developed antibodies while in the age group of over 60, 93 percent developed antibodies. This is not surprising as older people respond less to vaccines," the Professor added.

She said this data on the Sinopharm did not turn up to the world before, and such real-world data was important to build up vaccine confidence domestically and internationally. Enditem

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/asiapa ... 073227.htm


This article is not giving you the whole picture.

Antibody's are not everything in a immune response to a viral infection.
Antibodies are only part of adaptive immune systems response, the other piece of the puzzle is cell mediated response or T cell response.

T cells hunt down virally infected cells and direct the immune response. Your antibodies mop up viruses in the plasma and blood and mark cells that have been infected.

It has been postulated that inactivated vaccines like Sinopharm give good B cell/antibody responses but give less than adequate T cell response .

The new vaccines like Viral Vector (Astra/J&J) and mRNA vaccines (Moderna/Pfizer) help to initiate T cell responses and B cell antibody production. This is why they are superior in terms of efficacy.

There is a reason why the world moved beyond Inactivated vaccines a long time ago.


Nobody want to respond to this one boy. Hmmmm...

Respond how? If the data is sound, then it's good news, but we can't discount inactivated vaccines carte blanche, especially since there is a shortage of MRNA vaccines in the developing world.

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Postby timelapse » July 21st, 2021, 3:35 pm

ScHoolboySoloQ wrote:^ Yes blue we live in a world of dis-information, it is a money making business and your source is Xinhua News Agency which is state owned by China
As opposed to Western Media houses owned by 1% that also own big pharma?
American Nike pay American price.
Same exact thing from China, dirt cheap in China.
Perception is a helluva thing

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Postby bluefete » July 21st, 2021, 3:37 pm

Your observation is noted and I was aware of same.

I am supposed to get the Sinopharm soon and that is driven by the people i know who got Covid and who have died from it as well.

While we are not being told, it seems that the Brazilian variant is rampant and a major factor in the 855 people, who have died within the past 2 months and 3 weeks.

So some protection is better than none.

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
bluefete wrote:It is interesting, though, that you were quick to jump on news reported from China.

I am not against the Chinese vaccine.
I took the Sinopharm vaccine myself. It is the one that is available.

Just pointing out that the Chinese vaccine data you posted came from the Chinese govt news agency.

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Postby bluefete » July 21st, 2021, 3:39 pm

timelapse wrote:
ScHoolboySoloQ wrote:^ Yes blue we live in a world of dis-information, it is a money making business and your source is Xinhua News Agency which is state owned by China
As opposed to Western Media houses owned by 1% that also own big pharma?
American Nike pay American price.
Same exact thing from China, dirt cheap in China.
Perception is a helluva thing


EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(But Sinopharm not cheap compared to the others)

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Postby bluefete » July 21st, 2021, 3:58 pm

Do the Chinese have the dibs on hiding stuff?

What about the USA? Tuskegee Experiment (1932-1972). Check it out if you want

https://time.com/4867267/tuskegee-syphilis-study/

What about the tobacco industry and the effects of smoking?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/big-tobacc ... ret-study/


hover11 wrote:You not worried about how the Chinese hide stuff?
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
bluefete wrote:It is interesting, though, that you were quick to jump on news reported from China.

I am not against the Chinese vaccine.
I took the Sinopharm vaccine myself. It is the one that is available.

Just pointing out that the Chinese vaccine data you posted came from the Chinese govt news agency.

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Postby timelapse » July 21st, 2021, 4:01 pm

Or why ganja was made illegal?

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Postby bluefete » July 21st, 2021, 4:06 pm

paid_influencer wrote:if you think hover11 is anti-vax, don't put on synergyTV in the morning or your head might explode


LOL. Saw part of it this morning and he is a true - anti-vaxxer. He spoke about the fact that you cannot get Covid from touching surfaces but real money was made from selling hand-sanitizers.

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Postby hover11 » July 21st, 2021, 4:13 pm

Bro the Chinese literally hid all their cases from the rest of the world, you think if something was wrong with the sinopharm vaccine they would be openly honest about it?
bluefete wrote:Do the Chinese have the dibs on hiding stuff?

What about the USA? Tuskegee Experiment (1932-1972). Check it out if you want

https://time.com/4867267/tuskegee-syphilis-study/

What about the tobacco industry and the effects of smoking?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/big-tobacc ... ret-study/


hover11 wrote:You not worried about how the Chinese hide stuff?
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
bluefete wrote:It is interesting, though, that you were quick to jump on news reported from China.

I am not against the Chinese vaccine.
I took the Sinopharm vaccine myself. It is the one that is available.

Just pointing out that the Chinese vaccine data you posted came from the Chinese govt news agency.

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Postby timelapse » July 21st, 2021, 4:30 pm

hover11 wrote:Bro the Chinese literally hid all their cases from the rest of the world, you think if something was wrong with the sinopharm vaccine they would be openly honest about it?
bluefete wrote:Do the Chinese have the dibs on hiding stuff?

What about the USA? Tuskegee Experiment (1932-1972). Check it out if you want

https://time.com/4867267/tuskegee-syphilis-study/

What about the tobacco industry and the effects of smoking?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/big-tobacc ... ret-study/


hover11 wrote:You not worried about how the Chinese hide stuff?
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
bluefete wrote:It is interesting, though, that you were quick to jump on news reported from China.

I am not against the Chinese vaccine.
I took the Sinopharm vaccine myself. It is the one that is available.

Just pointing out that the Chinese vaccine data you posted came from the Chinese govt news agency.
Americans covering up medical blunders for years, not to mention other things like asbestos in J&J powder.Just think about those daytime tv lawyer commercials, Mesothelioma, cancer from surgical mesh, lawsuits from medical trials etc.This goes for any of the global superpowers.None of them are saints.
Don't get caught unvaccinated tuner bro, unless you have a medical condition that prevents it,then get the 'better' one when it becomes available.

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Postby Dohplaydat » July 21st, 2021, 4:37 pm

Just be clear, in no way shape or form does the West (of recent) compare to China in terms of secrecy, lies, covering up, human rights violations and oppression.

China are basically as bad as Nazi's but you che Guevara fanboi sheep to gullible to realize that.

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Postby timelapse » July 21st, 2021, 4:43 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:Just be clear, in no way shape or form does the West (of recent) compare to China in terms of secrecy, lies, covering up, human rights violations and oppression.

China are basically as bad as Nazi's but you che Guevara fanboi sheep to gullible to realize that.
Sleep well believing that.They just got better at hiding it.

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Postby paid_influencer » July 21st, 2021, 5:02 pm

bluefete wrote:While we are not being told, it seems that the Brazilian variant is rampant and a major factor in the 855 people, who have died within the past 2 months and 3 weeks.

So some protection is better than none.


they MoH officially recognized the Gamma variant is now 90+% of all the infections on the island. The OG strain straight up got git by Gamma.

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Postby goalpost » July 21st, 2021, 5:03 pm

No update today?

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Postby hover11 » July 21st, 2021, 5:20 pm

272/3

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Postby redmanjp » July 21st, 2021, 5:42 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:Just be clear, in no way shape or form does the West (of recent) compare to China in terms of secrecy, lies, covering up, human rights violations and oppression.

China are basically as bad as Nazi's but you che Guevara fanboi sheep to gullible to realize that.


correct. this whole pandemic started due to a cover up. silencing doctors who were talking to each other about it and of course no state controlled media would have mentioned it without permission from the CCP. if they allowed openness and transparency there would not be 1000 trinidadians dead today because there would not have been a pandemic as they would have been able to control it before it got out of hand. china locked down wuhan after it was already spreading and even then only flights to mainland china were blocked. flights to the rest of the world continued! and WHO said don't close borders!

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Postby adnj » July 21st, 2021, 5:49 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
bluefete wrote:While we are not being told, it seems that the Brazilian variant is rampant and a major factor in the 855 people, who have died within the past 2 months and 3 weeks.

So some protection is better than none.


they MoH officially recognized the Gamma variant is now 90+% of all the infections on the island. The OG strain straight up got git by Gamma.


Uh oh...

São Paulo reports community transmission of Delta variant

Jul 21, 2021 12:19

According to recent data from São Paulo health authorities, there are at least eight confirmed infections of the Delta coronavirus variant in Brazil’s biggest city. Municipal health secretary Edson Aparecido says the latest figures are proof of the community transmission of the highly contagious Covid-19 mutation. 

https://brazilian.report/liveblog/coron ... a-variant/

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Postby paid_influencer » July 21st, 2021, 5:50 pm

hover11 wrote:272/3


just when you think the numbers going down... :(

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