COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[pugboy]

and we aint get tested by the badder variants yet too

way too early to say carnival 2022 is on. we no where near 50% fully vaxxed and we have the less efficacious sinopharm which makes up a much higher % of all vaccines in use, perhaps higher than seychelles.

should be interesting to see us vs Jamaica on that. Jamaica hasn't approved Sinopharm at all and is putting all their eggs into the African J&J (same arrangement as the J&J we expecting).

[hover11]

Could imagine how after 2 weeks how the fallout will be

Carnival 2022 is on help with the help of the Chinese vaccines. You see how happy people are that they getting to travel to the country of their birth after 18 months or they getting to buy food through curbside pickup. You could imagine the kinda thanks and praise Rowley and pnm would get for having a carnival. All them ministers and hinds, trotman and Richards would be playing with them.

[MaxPower]

You could imagine the kinda thanks and praise Rowley and pnm would get for having a carnival.

Closer and closer to PNM 2025.

[K74T]

181/6

[redmanjp]

this shows that we don't yet have anything close to the majority of the elderly vaccinated yet otherwise deaths would be drastically cut, but still went ahead and expanded it to 18+ which will prolong getting the elderly vaxxed.

[j.o.e]

this shows that we don't yet have anything close to the majority of the elderly vaccinated yet otherwise deaths would be drastically cut, but still went ahead and expanded it to 18+ which will prolong getting the elderly vaxxed.

No use delaying the younger to vaccinate the older. You can wait forever the old still need to take advantage of the vaccinations available. They can still do that. Available at their health centre and other locations

[redmanjp]

this shows that we don't yet have anything close to the majority of the elderly vaccinated yet otherwise deaths would be drastically cut, but still went ahead and expanded it to 18+ which will prolong getting the elderly vaxxed.

No use delaying the younger to vaccinate the older. You can wait forever the old still need to take advantage of the vaccinations available. They can still do that. Available at their health centre and other locations

the restrictions are directly linked to hospitalizations, not so much cases. u can still have many cases but if they are mild (due to most cases being limited to younger unvaccinated ppl)and don't result in taking up bed space in a hospital and possibly threatening the health system most governments would not have to enact severe restrictions or lockdowns. u get out of lockdown faster- that doesn't require herd immunity which will take longer.
if u need an appointment but that appointment system is computerized unfortunately u may be missing a lot of elderly ppl.

it's the WHO policy and it makes sense to prioritize ppl who will likely take up hospital bed space.

[j.o.e]

this shows that we don't yet have anything close to the majority of the elderly vaccinated yet otherwise deaths would be drastically cut, but still went ahead and expanded it to 18+ which will prolong getting the elderly vaxxed.

No use delaying the younger to vaccinate the older. You can wait forever the old still need to take advantage of the vaccinations available. They can still do that. Available at their health centre and other locations

the restrictions are directly linked to hospitalizations, not so much cases. u can still have many cases but if they are mild (due to most cases being limited to younger unvaccinated ppl)and don't result in taking up bed space in a hospital and possibly threatening the health system most governments would not have to enact severe restrictions or lockdowns. u get out of lockdown faster- that doesn't require herd immunity which will take longer.
if u need an appointment but that appointment system is computerized unfortunately u may be missing a lot of elderly ppl.

Let’s be real the older people who haven’t got it as yet are mostly those who don’t want it. I basing that on acquaintances around me. Particularly now…. Of course there will always be outliers

[redmanjp]

this shows that we don't yet have anything close to the majority of the elderly vaccinated yet otherwise deaths would be drastically cut, but still went ahead and expanded it to 18+ which will prolong getting the elderly vaxxed.

No use delaying the younger to vaccinate the older. You can wait forever the old still need to take advantage of the vaccinations available. They can still do that. Available at their health centre and other locations

the restrictions are directly linked to hospitalizations, not so much cases. u can still have many cases but if they are mild (due to most cases being limited to younger unvaccinated ppl)and don't result in taking up bed space in a hospital and possibly threatening the health system most governments would not have to enact severe restrictions or lockdowns. u get out of lockdown faster- that doesn't require herd immunity which will take longer.
if u need an appointment but that appointment system is computerized unfortunately u may be missing a lot of elderly ppl.

Let’s be real the older people who haven’t got it as yet are mostly those who don’t want it. I basing that on acquaintances around me. Particularly now…. Of course there will always be outliers

just a few weeks ago they limited to over 65. they haven't said what % of 60+ are vaccinated.

in the US

Total
186,317,651
161,473,715
% of Total Population
56.1% 1 dose
48.6% fully vaccinated

but for elderly

Population ≥ 65 Years of Age
48,719,268
43,461,597
% of Population ≥ 65 Years of Age
89.1% 1 dose
79.5% fully vaccinated

[Dohplaydat]

UK Stats, aligned, Vaccines making a HUGE impact.

[daring dragoon]

heard a man in 40's in chase village took the sinopharm on friday an got a heart attack on monday and died. could be he time or could be the vaccine.

[adnj]

heard a man in 40's in chase village took the sinopharm on friday an got a heart attack on monday and died. could be he time or could be the vaccine.

Sh!t happens... sometimes not. If he died of a heart attack after eating doubles, did the channa kill him? Post your evidence - otherwise it's just talk.

16-year-old with toilet phobia dies of heart attack after avoiding bathroom for months 

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ ... -1.2277796

[redmanjp]

^ how does one hold in their sheit for 2 months straight

[PariaMan]

heard a man in 40's in chase village took the sinopharm on friday an got a heart attack on monday and died. could be he time or could be the vaccine.

Sh!t happens... sometimes not. If he died of a heart attack after eating doubles, did the channa kill him? Post your evidence - otherwise it's just talk.

16-year-old with toilet phobia dies of heart attack after avoiding bathroom for months 

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ ... -1.2277796

Yep if he had been given a vaccine shot people would have said the vaccine kill him

[aaron17]

No $hit

[paid_influencer]

UK Stats, aligned, Vaccines making a HUGE impact.

scary possibility: the variants no longer following the usual 2-week lag time for deaths, and things about to get

not like last year numbers, of course, but still

[elec2020]

^ or the immunity of the vaccine run out or the variant beating the vaccine

[hover11]

Whether they wish to admit it but immunity is waning on ALL vaccines as time goes by and the virus mutates

[Dohplaydat]

Whether they wish to admit it but immunity is waning on ALL vaccines as time goes by and the virus mutates

They literally said so from the start, yearly boosters will be required. Where have you been?

[BUG]

Whether they wish to admit it but immunity is waning on ALL vaccines as time goes by and the virus mutates

Are you suggesting that epidemiologists are hiding it from people that viruses mutate?

Seriously, I sit here and read this thread every few days and wonder where it all went wrong in our education system.

[aaron17]

Folks..by taking this sinopharm vaccine and if you want to go to USA, would USA see this as a threat? I know they despise china.

[hover11]

They also stated don't mix vaccines but ppl who took sinopharm are required to take a booster of pfizer or Moderna ....so they say alot of things

Whether they wish to admit it but immunity is waning on ALL vaccines as time goes by and the virus mutates

They literally said so from the start, yearly boosters will be required. Where have you been?

[elec2020]

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

[hover11]

Not because I see everybody jumping off a cliff means I just gonna follow the masses without the M....I asking questions and this not making sense tbh, they said dont mix vaccines , the virus is mutating to the point where it's a game of catch up...one doctor even spoke of MONTHLY booster shots , wait for it....

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

[BUG]

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I disagree. He's getting bashed because he's suggesting that medical professionals who have dedicated their lives to understanding this subject are hiding information for unstated purposes.

It's akin to someone with no experience in building suggesting civil engineers are purposefully building bridges that are designed to fail.

I ask you, would you be encouraging someone ignorant in engineering to say these things because someone who doesn't understand the subject matter, as you say, "see holes in it".

[Dohplaydat]

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I don't know why the concept of learning upon evidence is so hard for you all.

Scientists observe the evidence and draw conclusions. This virus is new, the vaccines are new, they are all doing their best to figure this thing out as we go along.

Give them credit, do you know how many lives and livelihoods the vaccines are saving?

Do not listen to politicians or policymakers as their interests aren't aligned to those of the scientists.

[BUG]

One of my heroes, Astrobiologist Carl Sagan, quoted the following almost 30 years ago:

"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance".

Elec, stop celebrating the ignorance of hover.

[elec2020]

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I disagree. He's getting bashed because he's suggesting that medical professionals who have dedicated their lives to understanding this subject are hiding information for unstated purposes.

It's akin to someone with no experience in building suggesting civil engineers are purposefully building bridges that are designed to fail.

I ask you, would you be encouraging someone ignorant in engineering to say these things because someone who doesn't understand the subject matter, as you say, "see holes in it".

do u blame him? Governments over the pandemic have shown to be dishonest. Scientists have also shown to be unethical (Fauci and Vallance). So who do u trust when whenever you read the information thats out there and you watch the numbers the narrative starts to fall apart. For instance, in the US they claim that 91 per cent of the new cases in Florida are unvaccinated. But in the UK its 40 per cent (oh wait sorry 60 per cent as Vallance claimed that he made a mistake with the numbers). Also, if someone dies but tested positive for covid (sometimes within the last 30 days) its registered as a covid death. But if they got the vaccine and died some time after there is no relation to the two. Also, the side effects of the vaccine are so rare but somehow still significant enough to stop issuing to kids (I think it was Pfizer in this instance). Also, since when is it good to mix vaccines? Also, in the UK there has been 1,059,307 adverse reactions to the vaccine and possible 1,470 fatalities but no real news media has reported on it (https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports) thus far. There is so much that does not make sense. If you for vaccination then good on you. I not stopping no one to vaccinate. Just that just how you have a right to take it we have a right to question it.

[elec2020]

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I don't know why the concept of learning upon evidence is so hard for you all.

Scientists observe the evidence and draw conclusions. This virus is new, the vaccines are new, they are all doing their best to figure this thing out as we go along.

Give them credit, do you know how many lives and livelihoods the vaccines are saving?

Do not listen to politicians or policymakers as their interests aren't aligned to those of the scientists.

Tell that to the ones who died after the vaccine or suffering with Bell's Palsy, GBS, heart inflammation, etc. Also, any scientist will tell you that time is just as important as observations. For example, I think i read that the GBS showed up 4 months after taking the vaccine. As stated several times before, the long-term effects of this thing are uncertain.

[hover11]

Dr.Fraud Chi changing his narrative all the time , how many ppl died because of this man's indecisiveness but we just supposed to believe him now

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I disagree. He's getting bashed because he's suggesting that medical professionals who have dedicated their lives to understanding this subject are hiding information for unstated purposes.

It's akin to someone with no experience in building suggesting civil engineers are purposefully building bridges that are designed to fail.

I ask you, would you be encouraging someone ignorant in engineering to say these things because someone who doesn't understand the subject matter, as you say, "see holes in it".

do u blame him? Governments over the pandemic have shown to be dishonest. Scientists have also shown to be unethical (Fauci and Vallance). So who do u trust when whenever you read the information thats out there and you watch the numbers the narrative starts to fall apart. For instance, in the US they claim that 91 per cent of the new cases in Florida are unvaccinated. But in the UK its 40 per cent (oh wait sorry 60 per cent as Vallance claimed that he made a mistake with the numbers). Also, if someone dies but tested positive for covid (sometimes within the last 30 days) its registered as a covid death. But if they got the vaccine and died some time after there is no relation to the two. Also, the side effects of the vaccine are so rare but somehow still significant enough to stop issuing to kids (I think it was Pfizer in this instance). Also, since when is it good to mix vaccines? Also, in the UK there has been 1,059,307 adverse reactions to the vaccine and possible 1,470 fatalities but no real news media has reported on it (https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports) thus far. There is so much that does not make sense. If you for vaccination then good on you. I not stopping no one to vaccinate. Just that just how you have a right to take it we have a right to question it.