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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 35046 cases, 952 deaths, 5881 active, 28213 recovered in T&T

Postby Chimera » July 14th, 2021, 9:58 pm

all the doctors i have on my fb/ instagram all talking about how we 1 step away from a surge of delta
they sharing articles from abroad showing how one person with delta in a wedding or event end up infecting dozens of others even in open air events
how even though you vaccinated, not to mix with unnecessary people etc

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Postby st7 » July 14th, 2021, 10:29 pm

redmanjp wrote:i find indoor take away should be banned at this time. just have curbside, drive tru and delivery.


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Postby Dohplaydat » July 15th, 2021, 1:43 am

redmanjp wrote:i find indoor take away should be banned at this time. just have curbside, drive tru and delivery.



With masks and good ventilation, even with Delta it's seen to be low risk still. The main reason is due to the length of time the person stays. However, anything more than 15 mins though puts you at significantly more risks even if you both wearing masks and socially distant.

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Postby RedVEVO » July 15th, 2021, 1:51 am

st7 wrote:
redmanjp wrote:i find indoor take away should be banned at this time. just have curbside, drive tru and delivery.


true


x 10 true

Why ?

963 Dead

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Postby MaxPower » July 15th, 2021, 2:36 am

paid_influencer wrote:11 MORE HAVE DIED


Does the general population really care?

The reopening of KFC seems more important.

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Postby aaron17 » July 15th, 2021, 3:43 am

Phone Surgeon wrote:all the doctors i have on my fb/ instagram all talking about how we 1 step away from a surge of delta
they sharing articles from abroad showing how one person with delta in a wedding or event end up infecting dozens of others even in open air events
how even though you vaccinated, not to mix with unnecessary people etc
Well the whole world will eventually have it...just a matter of time. The efficacy of this vaccine we have right now is questionable even though WHO approved it.

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Postby Dohplaydat » July 15th, 2021, 3:58 am

aaron17 wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:all the doctors i have on my fb/ instagram all talking about how we 1 step away from a surge of delta
they sharing articles from abroad showing how one person with delta in a wedding or event end up infecting dozens of others even in open air events
how even though you vaccinated, not to mix with unnecessary people etc
Well the whole world will eventually have it...just a matter of time. The efficacy of this vaccine we have right now is questionable even though WHO approved it.


If delta hits us now we in sheit, no way around it w will be back to 500+ cases and 20 deaths a day. If it becomes dominant in September, we might be ok as vaccines would have reached most high risk persons.

Given that, while I'm super happy the borders open, I think we should have delayed this till September.

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Postby MaxPower » July 15th, 2021, 10:41 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:https://www.rt.com/news/529234-coronavirus-who-third-wave/

Its coming sooner than yall think


And even sooner with the irresponsibility of Trinis.

Vaccinations are proving day by day to be useless in many cases.

State and Home quarantine has too many inconsistencies, inefficiencies and negligence is rampant.

PCR testing is erroneous in many instances.

If these jackasses would simply wear their masks, sanitize and social distance it would make it so much easier.

Anyways.

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Postby hover11 » July 15th, 2021, 10:54 am

When you can't even make sunscreen properly but want to enter the vaccine manufacturing field because you see easy money ....gotta love JnJ
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Postby aaron17 » July 15th, 2021, 12:56 pm

And the infamous Talcum powder lawsuit.....

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Postby elec2020 » July 15th, 2021, 1:05 pm

those were outliers. JnJ on the up and up

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Postby VexXx Dogg » July 15th, 2021, 1:09 pm

hover11 wrote:When you can't even make sunscreen properly but want to enter the vaccine manufacturing field because you see easy money ....gotta love JnJFB_IMG_1626360799192.jpg


holy mother of false equivalence

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Postby aaron17 » July 15th, 2021, 2:14 pm

Seems like the delta is more transmissible and less deadly?


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Postby widdyphuck » July 15th, 2021, 2:15 pm

Have a feeling Rowley got access to some Pfizer hence his press conference today.
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Postby Dizzy28 » July 15th, 2021, 3:26 pm

WHO to believe!!!!

The WHO's Chief Says It Was Premature To Rule Out A Lab Leak As The Pandemic's Origin
The head of the World Health Organization acknowledged it was premature to rule out a potential link between the COVID-19 pandemic and a laboratory leak, and he said Thursday he is asking China to be more transparent as scientists search for the origins of the coronavirus.

In a rare departure from his usual deference to powerful member countries, WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said getting access to raw data had been a challenge for the international team that traveled to China earlier this year to investigate the source of COVID-19. The first human cases were identified in the Chinese city of Wuhan. Tedros told reporters that the U.N. health agency based in Geneva is "asking actually China to be transparent, open and cooperate, especially on the information, raw data that we asked for at the early days of the pandemic."

He said there had been a "premature push" to rule out the theory that the virus might have escaped from a Chinese government lab in Wuhan — undermining WHO's own March report, which concluded that a laboratory leak was "extremely unlikely."
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Postby Mmoney607 » July 15th, 2021, 3:50 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:WHO to believe!!!!

The WHO's Chief Says It Was Premature To Rule Out A Lab Leak As The Pandemic's Origin
The head of the World Health Organization acknowledged it was premature to rule out a potential link between the COVID-19 pandemic and a laboratory leak, and he said Thursday he is asking China to be more transparent as scientists search for the origins of the coronavirus.

In a rare departure from his usual deference to powerful member countries, WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said getting access to raw data had been a challenge for the international team that traveled to China earlier this year to investigate the source of COVID-19. The first human cases were identified in the Chinese city of Wuhan. Tedros told reporters that the U.N. health agency based in Geneva is "asking actually China to be transparent, open and cooperate, especially on the information, raw data that we asked for at the early days of the pandemic."

He said there had been a "premature push" to rule out the theory that the virus might have escaped from a Chinese government lab in Wuhan — undermining WHO's own March report, which concluded that a laboratory leak was "extremely unlikely."
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/15/10164367 ... ure-tedros


So the WHO just pick up something and run with it without any information, any data, any evidence, any research?

Months later they might come back and say it was premature to approve sinopharm.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 15th, 2021, 4:02 pm

aaron17 wrote:Seems like the delta is more transmissible and less deadly?

We don't know the long term effects of Coronavirus
People who get the chicken pox virus an get shingles later on in their life

"Shingles is caused by varicella zoster virus (VZV), the same virus that causes chickenpox. After a person recovers from chickenpox, the virus stays dormant (inactive) in their body. The virus can reactivate later, causing shingles."

So while it may seem ok to get Covid and you may get mild symptoms or even be asymptomatic - we have no idea what happens later on.

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Postby aaron17 » July 15th, 2021, 4:26 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Seems like the delta is more transmissible and less deadly?

We don't know the long term effects of Coronavirus
People who get the chicken pox virus an get shingles later on in their life

"Shingles is caused by varicella zoster virus (VZV), the same virus that causes chickenpox. After a person recovers from chickenpox, the virus stays dormant (inactive) in their body. The virus can reactivate later, causing shingles."

So while it may seem ok to get Covid and you may get mild symptoms or even be asymptomatic - we have no idea what happens later on.


Same goes for vaccines as well.

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Postby redmanjp » July 15th, 2021, 4:50 pm

could it be the data for delta shows it as less deadly due to higher vaccination rates than when they compiled the data for earlier strains? and since we currently have very low vax rates we should assume it is just as deadly.

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Postby pugboy » July 15th, 2021, 5:09 pm

look like will take a good few weeks to get consistent below 3 digits

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 15th, 2021, 5:45 pm

aaron17 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Seems like the delta is more transmissible and less deadly?

We don't know the long term effects of Coronavirus
People who get the chicken pox virus an get shingles later on in their life

"Shingles is caused by varicella zoster virus (VZV), the same virus that causes chickenpox. After a person recovers from chickenpox, the virus stays dormant (inactive) in their body. The virus can reactivate later, causing shingles."

So while it may seem ok to get Covid and you may get mild symptoms or even be asymptomatic - we have no idea what happens later on.


Same goes for vaccines as well.

True but can you name a modern vaccine that has long term side effects?

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Postby redmanjp » July 15th, 2021, 5:50 pm

192/6

so that new WHO approved drug - how effective is it? i would imagine it should reduce the mortality rate? if i assume the rolling ave was 300 when those 6 persons were admitted then the rate would be 2% which is no better.

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Postby pugboy » July 15th, 2021, 5:52 pm

long term as in an asymptomatic person developing something later on ?
or a sypmtomatic ?
because many symptomatic have damaged lungs which can never regain same aerobic capacity.

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Seems like the delta is more transmissible and less deadly?

We don't know the long term effects of Coronavirus
People who get the chicken pox virus an get shingles later on in their life

"Shingles is caused by varicella zoster virus (VZV), the same virus that causes chickenpox. After a person recovers from chickenpox, the virus stays dormant (inactive) in their body. The virus can reactivate later, causing shingles."

So while it may seem ok to get Covid and you may get mild symptoms or even be asymptomatic - we have no idea what happens later on.


Same goes for vaccines as well.

True but can you name a modern vaccine that has long term side effects?

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Postby redmanjp » July 15th, 2021, 5:58 pm

pugboy wrote:long term as in an asymptomatic person developing something later on ?
or a sypmtomatic ?
because many symptomatic have damaged lungs which can never regain same aerobic capacity.


i have actually read that asymptomatic infected ppl can get long covid as well. imagine u get sick AFTER 'recovering' from covid u never knew u had!

https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/study-many-long-haul-covid-19-patients-were-asymptomatic-during-initial-infection

Study: Many Long-Haul COVID-19 Patients Were Asymptomatic During Initial Infection
March 12, 2021
Aislinn Antrim, Associate Editor


The investigators observed a near normal age distribution among patients with long-term COVID-19 symptoms, including children.

An analysis of electronic medical records in California found that 32% of individuals with long-term COVID-19 complications had asymptomatic infections, but experienced aftereffects months later.

According to the study authors, most research has focused on the 1% of COVID-19 patients who are hospitalized, although very little is known about the medium- and long-term impacts of the disease. They noted that emerging data suggest that a significant number of hospitalized patients go on to have long-term symptoms, with some studies estimating approximately 10%.

“Long-haulers represent a very significant public health concern, and there are no guidelines to address their diagnosis and management,” the study authors wrote. “Additional studies are urgently needed that focus on the physical, mental, and emotional impact of long-term COVID-19 survivors who become long-haulers.”

Persistent symptoms even months after the resolution of COVID-19 have been reported throughout the pandemic, according to the study authors. They investigated symptoms during the first 10 days of infection and at 61 days or longer after the diagnosis and used the University of California COVID Research Data Set to identify 1407 medical records.

The team developed a model to predict the likelihood of becoming a long-hauler based on patients’ symptoms. According to the study findings, 27% reported persistent symptoms after 60 days. Women were more likely to become long-haulers and all age groups were represented. Individuals between 30 and 70 years of age comprised 72% of cases. Notably, of the 34 children included in the study, 11 had long-term symptoms.

The investigators said presenting symptoms included palpitations, chronic rhinitis, dysgeusia, chills, insomnia, hyperhidrosis, anxiety, sore throat, and headache, among others. They identified 5 symptom clusters at day 61 onward: chest pain and cough; dyspnea and cough; anxiety and tachycardia; abdominal pain and nausea; and low back pain or joint pain. Non-modifiable factors, such as age, sex, and ethnicity, did not appear to be associated with belonging to a specific symptom cluster.

Although the research has not finished undergoing peer review, it is larger than many studies on long-term symptoms. Additionally, the researchers were able to obtain health and demographic information of patients throughout the state of California, giving them a large group to extrapolate from.

Based on these findings, the study authors said they observed a developing picture of long haulers potentially characterized by being Caucasian, female, and having a normal body mass index. They also noted a near normal age distribution, including children, whereas race appeared to be less predictive.

REFERENCE

Huang Y, Pinto M, Borelli J, et al. COVID symptoms, symptom clusters, and predictors for becoming a long-hauler: Looking for clarity in the haze of the pandemic. MedRxiv; March 5, 2021. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 086v1.full. Accessed March 9, 2021.

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Postby elec2020 » July 15th, 2021, 6:42 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Seems like the delta is more transmissible and less deadly?

We don't know the long term effects of Coronavirus
People who get the chicken pox virus an get shingles later on in their life

"Shingles is caused by varicella zoster virus (VZV), the same virus that causes chickenpox. After a person recovers from chickenpox, the virus stays dormant (inactive) in their body. The virus can reactivate later, causing shingles."

So while it may seem ok to get Covid and you may get mild symptoms or even be asymptomatic - we have no idea what happens later on.


Same goes for vaccines as well.

True but can you name a modern vaccine that has long term side effects?


the closest in recent history would be Pandemrix but that has since disappeared after the narcolepsy cases

https://www.statnews.com/2018/07/05/flu ... arcolepsy/

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Postby ST Auto » July 15th, 2021, 7:13 pm

https://guardian.co.tt/news/pm-govt-cou ... dda21b079b

PM saying he will make vaccines mandatory

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Postby redmanjp » July 15th, 2021, 7:14 pm

ST Auto wrote:https://guardian.co.tt/news/pm-govt-could-make-vaccines-mandatory-6.2.1356377.dda21b079b

PM saying he will make vaccines mandatory


could, not would

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Postby ST Auto » July 15th, 2021, 7:20 pm

Great is the pnm

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