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Are you taking the COVID-19 Vaccine?

Yes, I am already vaccinated.
81
67%
Yes, I am awaiting vaccination.
12
10%
No, I don't want it.
19
16%
I am not sure.
9
7%
 
Total votes: 121

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Postby redmanjp » July 21st, 2021, 1:16 pm

Skanky wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:It's a balance btween lives and livelyhood
Economies cannot continue in lockdown so the vaccines help to mitigate that by providing some buffer.
Many simply cannot afford to wait until the FDA and similar bodies go through the usual process of taking years to approve a drug.


It's no balance it's BS. The thing has a 2% death rate. Only the sick and elderly need be vaccinated. Not school children and certainly not normal healthy people with no health concerns.

What Covid really is is a big mirror. The reason we're have such 'high numbers' is because of our diets, lack of exercise and sedentary lifestyle.

The poor state of health the average trini is in any decent virus will kill many.... it just happens to be Covid and people with an agenda are just milking it to their benefit.


so u cool with 30000 dead cuz that's 2% of the entire population- with these more contagious strains especially delta if we just open up but don't vaccinate eventually everyone will get it and that horrific death toll will result- both lives and liveihoods will STILL be affected because half the country workforce will be under quarantine and a lot of them covid +.

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Postby aaron17 » July 21st, 2021, 1:49 pm

And u cool with blood cancer...disease etc in the long term?

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Postby adnj » July 21st, 2021, 2:00 pm

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Postby hover11 » July 21st, 2021, 2:03 pm

Dr.Hinds said covid isn't the biggest killer in this country , that place has always belonged to Heart Disease.....I wonder why
aaron17 wrote:And u cool with blood cancer...disease etc in the long term?

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Postby aaron17 » July 21st, 2021, 2:21 pm

lets add factor of time

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Postby paid_influencer » July 21st, 2021, 2:28 pm

heard the CMO talking this morning after a reporter asked him about J&J decreased laboratory-test results against Delta.

CMO said if the WHO revokes the EUL listing for J&J, we will follow suit.

Variants making everything a fluid situation yes :|

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/20/dr-vin- ... oster.html

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Postby st7 » July 21st, 2021, 2:34 pm

Skanky wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:It's a balance btween lives and livelyhood
Economies cannot continue in lockdown so the vaccines help to mitigate that by providing some buffer.
Many simply cannot afford to wait until the FDA and similar bodies go through the usual process of taking years to approve a drug.


It's no balance it's BS. The thing has a 2% death rate. Only the sick and elderly need be vaccinated. Not school children and certainly not normal healthy people with no health concerns.

What Covid really is is a big mirror. The reason we're have such 'high numbers' is because of our diets, lack of exercise and sedentary lifestyle.

The poor state of health the average trini is in any decent virus will kill many.... it just happens to be Covid and people with an agenda are just milking it to their benefit.


are u a medical professional and have you been studying in the field for years? i'm asking for yourself because it seems you are deluded into thinking your opinion is a fact.

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Postby De Dragon » July 21st, 2021, 3:06 pm

Don't take it, get Delta, dead, all while worrying about years down the road what a vaccine that has been used for almost a year now and is generally safe to take may do to you long term. Vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks, and the existing vaccines obviously have been around longer than that.
But hey, whether you take it or not is up to you, but don't expect to post sheit and propaganda here and not be fact checked.

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Postby Mmoney607 » July 21st, 2021, 3:30 pm

I would come as no surprise to me if very soon the idea of systematic eradication of unvaccinated persons is proposed "for the greater good"

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Postby elec2020 » July 21st, 2021, 3:44 pm

De Dragon wrote:Don't take it, get Delta, dead, all while worrying about years down the road what a vaccine that has been used for almost a year now and is generally safe to take may do to you long term. Vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks, and the existing vaccines obviously have been around longer than that.
But hey, whether you take it or not is up to you, but don't expect to post sheit and propaganda here and not be fact checked.


6 weeks lol

With the announcement from the Swedish Medical Products Agency, the Finnish National Institute for Health and Welfare assessed their country's situation and launched a retrospective cohort study. That study estimated the relative risk for narcolepsy after Pandemrix in children 4–19 years of age at 12.7 (95% CI 6.1–30.8) [13]. In addition, many other European countries conducted studies to assess the association between pandemic vaccines and narcolepsy, both in children and adults. The results of studies conducted in Europe (Finland, Germany, Ireland, England, France, the Netherlands, Norway and Sweden [10,[12], [13], [14], [15], [16],18]) were recently reviewed by Sarkanen et al. who performed meta-analyses of their results [33]. During the first year after vaccination, the relative risk of narcolepsy was increased 5–14-fold in children and adolescents and 3–8-fold in adults, depending on the index date used. Similar elevated risk estimates were found for analyses using onset of symptoms as the key index date, with an overall risk of 14.32 (95% CI 8.92–22.99). The review concluded that a significantly elevated risk was only associated with Pandemrix [33].


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 5619300478

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Postby hover11 » July 21st, 2021, 3:55 pm

Well remember we are a threat
Mmoney607 wrote:I would come as no surprise to me if very soon the idea of systematic eradication of unvaccinated persons is proposed "for the greater good"

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Postby De Dragon » July 21st, 2021, 3:56 pm

Abstract
A group of scientific and public health experts and key stakeholders convened to discuss the state of knowledge on the relationship between adjuvanted monovalent inactivated 2009 influenza A H1N1 vaccines used during the[b] 2009 influenza pandemic and narcolepsy.[/b] There was consensus that an increased risk of narcolepsy was consistently observed after Pandemrix (AS03-adjuvanted) vaccine, but similar associations following Arepanrix (AS03-adjuvanted) or Focetria (MF59-adjuvanted) vaccines were not observed. Whether the differences are due to vaccine composition or other factors such as the timing of large-scale vaccination programs relative to H1N1pdm09 wild-type virus circulation in different geographic regions is not clear. The limitations of retrospective observational methodologies could also be contributing to some of the differences across studies. More basic and epidemiologic research is needed to further elucidate the association between adjuvanted influenza vaccine and narcolepsy and its mechanism and to inform planning and preparation for vaccination programs in advance of the next influenza pandemic.


Did you really need to be told I was referring to Covid-19 vaccines in a Covid-19 thread?
I'm sorry, I forgot you have to read and spell for the simpletons. :roll:
Children are not eligible for the vaccine currently. Any authorization would follow efficacy and other safety data for which there is currently none.
H1N1 is not Covid-19
Pandremix is not the same vaccine.

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Postby elec2020 » July 21st, 2021, 4:04 pm

^ and i quote "Vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks, and the existing vaccines obviously have been around longer than that." Is it that you saying with certainty that the covid-19 vaccine serious side effects without a doubt show up within the first 6 weeks. Or are you saying that in general all vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks. The excerpt is in relation to the latter as no one on this earth can say that the serious side effects for covid-19 vaccines show up within the first 6 weeks as a year still has not passed since vaccination has started and adverse responses are still being collated. For instance, in the UK, there have been at least 1 million adverse reactions to the vaccines https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports. You telling me that all of those reactions took place in 6 weeks?

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Postby VexXx Dogg » July 21st, 2021, 4:24 pm

Go with god.
Stay safe.
I wish you select few the best of health and luck.

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Postby De Dragon » July 21st, 2021, 4:45 pm

elec2020 wrote:^ and i quote "Vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks, and the existing vaccines obviously have been around longer than that." Is it that you saying with certainty that the covid-19 vaccine serious side effects without a doubt show up within the first 6 weeks. Or are you saying that in general all vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks. The excerpt is in relation to the latter as no one on this earth can say that the serious side effects for covid-19 vaccines show up within the first 6 weeks as a year still has not passed since vaccination has started and adverse responses are still being collated. For instance, in the UK, there have been at least 1 million adverse reactions to the vaccines https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports. You telling me that all of those reactions took place in 6 weeks?

Don't take it, get Delta, dead, all while worrying about years down the road what a vaccine that has been used for almost a year now and is generally safe to take may do to you long term. Vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks, and the existing vaccines obviously have been around longer than that.
But hey, whether you take it or not is up to you, but don't expect to post sheit and propaganda here and not be fact checked.

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Postby elec2020 » July 21st, 2021, 5:14 pm

De Dragon wrote:
elec2020 wrote:^ and i quote "Vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks, and the existing vaccines obviously have been around longer than that." Is it that you saying with certainty that the covid-19 vaccine serious side effects without a doubt show up within the first 6 weeks. Or are you saying that in general all vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks. The excerpt is in relation to the latter as no one on this earth can say that the serious side effects for covid-19 vaccines show up within the first 6 weeks as a year still has not passed since vaccination has started and adverse responses are still being collated. For instance, in the UK, there have been at least 1 million adverse reactions to the vaccines https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports. You telling me that all of those reactions took place in 6 weeks?

Don't take it, get Delta, dead, all while worrying about years down the road what a vaccine that has been used for almost a year now and is generally safe to take may do to you long term. Vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks, and the existing vaccines obviously have been around longer than that.
But hey, whether you take it or not is up to you, but don't expect to post sheit and propaganda here and not be fact checked.


by refuting my sheit posts and propaganda u mean shifting the goal posts or not even addressing what i said (for example the 1 million adverse reactions as reported in the UK). LOL. ok

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Postby abducted » July 21st, 2021, 5:26 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:I would come as no surprise to me if very soon the idea of systematic eradication of unvaccinated persons is proposed "for the greater good"

Then we would have less dumb people in the world, sounds great

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Postby adnj » July 21st, 2021, 5:44 pm

elec2020 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
elec2020 wrote:^ and i quote "Vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks, and the existing vaccines obviously have been around longer than that." Is it that you saying with certainty that the covid-19 vaccine serious side effects without a doubt show up within the first 6 weeks. Or are you saying that in general all vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks. The excerpt is in relation to the latter as no one on this earth can say that the serious side effects for covid-19 vaccines show up within the first 6 weeks as a year still has not passed since vaccination has started and adverse responses are still being collated. For instance, in the UK, there have been at least 1 million adverse reactions to the vaccines https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports. You telling me that all of those reactions took place in 6 weeks?

Don't take it, get Delta, dead, all while worrying about years down the road what a vaccine that has been used for almost a year now and is generally safe to take may do to you long term. Vaccine serious side effects show up within the first 6 weeks, and the existing vaccines obviously have been around longer than that.
But hey, whether you take it or not is up to you, but don't expect to post sheit and propaganda here and not be fact checked.


by refuting my sheit posts and propaganda u mean shifting the goal posts or not even addressing what i said (for example the 1 million adverse reactions as reported in the UK). LOL. ok
Find one more source that shows over 1000 covid vaccine related deaths in the UK...

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Postby redmanjp » July 21st, 2021, 5:51 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:I would come as no surprise to me if very soon the idea of systematic eradication of unvaccinated persons is proposed "for the greater good"


delta and possibly a future variant that arises due to high spread among unvaccinated ppl might do that itself

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Postby sMASH » July 21st, 2021, 5:57 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:I would come as no surprise to me if very soon the idea of systematic eradication of unvaccinated persons is proposed "for the greater good"

well, if the vaccines are NECESSARY, that would follow on as a natural consequence.
if the vaccines are not necessary, then u woudl have to purposefully implement that program


n e ways, i seeing america browne organizing with white house to get left over pfizer as the US is in the vaccine saturation zone now.

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Postby De Dragon » July 21st, 2021, 6:08 pm

Pfizer/Moderna have applied for a Biologic License Application (BLA) which could see their vaccines receive full FDA approval in January 2022

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Postby paid_influencer » July 21st, 2021, 6:13 pm

DeDragon, how effective do you think Sinopharm will be against Delta?

I know it's better than nothing, take what's available, etc, but I want to know how much supplies to put in my bunker

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Postby redmanjp » July 21st, 2021, 6:24 pm

paid_influencer wrote:DeDragon, how effective do you think Sinopharm will be against Delta?

I know it's better than nothing, take what's available, etc, but I want to know how much supplies to put in my bunker


anticipating a worse wave from delta? 5000+ more deaths or so?

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 21st, 2021, 7:31 pm

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In the US in July 2021, unvaccinated people are being hit hardest where the more contagious, more powerful delta variant is dominating.

“With the arrival of delta, we will have two very different epidemics — one a mild cold in vaccinated individuals, and then we continue to have deadly infections in unvaccinated individuals,” said William Powderly, an infectious-disease specialist and director of the Institute for Public Health at Washington University in St. Louis.

“The people who need to come to hospital, who end up in the intensive care unit, and the people who die are almost exclusively unvaccinated individuals,” he said, noting that his hospital has three times the covid-19 patients it had in late June.


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Postby bluefete » July 21st, 2021, 8:24 pm

The Delta and Gamma Covid-19 Variants Are Taking Over the US
The two variants are threatening Alpha’s reign—and the country's path out of the pandemic.


https://www.wired.com/story/delta-gamma ... ed-states/

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 21st, 2021, 9:11 pm

paid_influencer wrote:DeDragon, how effective do you think Sinopharm will be against Delta?

I know it's better than nothing, take what's available, etc, but I want to know how much supplies to put in my bunker


https://weather.com/en-IN/india/coronav ... mxPRjXm0EA

Timing

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Postby paid_influencer » July 21st, 2021, 9:26 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:DeDragon, how effective do you think Sinopharm will be against Delta?

I know it's better than nothing, take what's available, etc, but I want to know how much supplies to put in my bunker


https://weather.com/en-IN/india/coronav ... mxPRjXm0EA

Timing


the CMO brought up that study on the press conference today (same study that was posted a few pages back on a Xinhua link). He said it is a 'good sign' but it needs to be peer reviewed. It's also a lab study, not efficacy or effectiveness data.
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Postby bluefete » July 21st, 2021, 9:27 pm

But Duane blasted me for this when I put it in the Covid thread yesterday. He said the report came from China (which it did) and he said China controls one of Sri Lanka's ports due to its inability to repay a loan.

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:DeDragon, how effective do you think Sinopharm will be against Delta?

I know it's better than nothing, take what's available, etc, but I want to know how much supplies to put in my bunker


https://weather.com/en-IN/india/coronav ... mxPRjXm0EA

Timing

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Postby bluefete » July 21st, 2021, 9:27 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote::agrue:


This is pure shrite.

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