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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 34577 cases, 935 deaths, 6093 active, 27549 recovered in T&T

Postby paid_influencer » July 12th, 2021, 10:05 am

nah we not going to lockdown again... going UK route and learning to "live with the virus"

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Postby hover11 » July 12th, 2021, 10:11 am

UK can make such a statement being first world we are the low Caribbean
paid_influencer wrote:nah we not going to lockdown again... going UK route and learning to "live with the virus"

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Postby Habit7 » July 12th, 2021, 10:12 am

Dohplaydat wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Barbados reintroduces lockdowns due to spike
Confirmed cases of Delta, Gamma and Alpha variants there

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Barbados is once again leading from the front. Early lockdowns are the key, but Habit7 will never admit PNM lapsed big time.

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And I keep reminding you of this lack of consistency you are failing to acknowledge. Before our major spike you said that T&T was too lockdown and that we need to be freer like Barbados. In March we were not under what we considered a lockdown but in comparison to many countries in the world, we closed borders, no schools, no entertainment, mask mandates and number restrictions, so we were already in lockdown.

Barbados is now putting in measures at the same level where were at in April when cases were rising? Why is this embellishing of everything Bajan and downplaying of everything Trini?

Mar 18, 2021
Dohplaydat wrote:Habit7,

We are too restricted given the number of cases, ease up is necessary as it's affecting people's livelihoods far too long. Not to mention the adverse effects on kids absent from school.

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Postby Dohplaydat » July 12th, 2021, 10:13 am

Habit7 wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Barbados reintroduces lockdowns due to spike
Confirmed cases of Delta, Gamma and Alpha variants there

Screenshot 2021-07-12 at 12.47.45 AM.jpg

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Barbados is once again leading from the front. Early lockdowns are the key, but Habit7 will never admit PNM lapsed big time.

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And I keep reminding you of this lack of consistency you are failing to acknowledge. Before our major spike you said that T&T was too lockdown and that we need to be freer like Barbados. In March we were not under what we considered a lockdown but in comparison to many countries in the world, we closed borders, no schools, no entertainment, mask mandates and number restrictions, so we were already in lockdown.

Barbados is now putting in measures at the same level where were at in April when cases were rising? Why is this embellishing of everything Bajan and downplaying of everything Trini?

Mar 18, 2021
Dohplaydat wrote:Habit7,

We are too restricted given the number of cases, ease up is necessary as it's affecting people's livelihoods far too long. Not to mention the adverse effects on kids absent from school.


Backside back then we weren't aware unlike the CMO of the rise in cases. Check my posts a week or so later where I was calling for early lockdowns.

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Postby Habit7 » July 12th, 2021, 10:24 am

What are early lockdowns? Because back then you said we were already too restricted? Wasn't that an early lockdown?

Or did you want us to close retail and food services at 35 cases a day for 2months? The same way you were crying for livelihoods then, you would have been crying even more after such a move. Barbados is implementing more restrictions at around the level of increase we were at when we added more restrictions. Stop making it as if they are doing something so great.

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Postby Wraith King » July 12th, 2021, 10:44 am

Habit7 wrote:What are early lockdowns? Because back then you said we were already too restricted? Wasn't that an early lockdown?

Or did you want us to close retail and food services at 35 cases a day for 2months? The same way you were crying for livelihoods then, you would have been crying even more after such a move. Barbados is implementing more restrictions at around the level of increase we were at when we added more restrictions. Stop making it as if they are doing something so great.


If they had 48 deaths while there's 937 here, they did do something great.

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Postby Dohplaydat » July 12th, 2021, 10:51 am

Habit7 wrote:What are early lockdowns? Because back then you said we were already too restricted? Wasn't that an early lockdown?

Or did you want us to close retail and food services at 35 cases a day for 2months? The same way you were crying for livelihoods then, you would have been crying even more after such a move. Barbados is implementing more restrictions at around the level of increase we were at when we added more restrictions. Stop making it as if they are doing something so great.



Basically, things like not leaving gyms open till April 29th and then allowing non-essential work to continue till early or mid-May.

I explained several times during April that a hard short lockdown was needed, not this pussyfooting of closing one little thing every week. If you looked at successful lockdowns in other countries you would have seen that method (we used) was quite pointless and only hard lockdowns really had effect. We made the same mistakes many others made rather than looking at what successful countries did. Pure stupidity.

We took the hard approach in mid to late May, when cases were already spiraling out of control.

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Postby Habit7 » July 12th, 2021, 10:53 am

Dohplaydat wrote:
Habit7 wrote:What are early lockdowns? Because back then you said we were already too restricted? Wasn't that an early lockdown?

Or did you want us to close retail and food services at 35 cases a day for 2months? The same way you were crying for livelihoods then, you would have been crying even more after such a move. Barbados is implementing more restrictions at around the level of increase we were at when we added more restrictions. Stop making it as if they are doing something so great.



Basically, things like not leaving gyms open till April 29th and then allowing non-essential work to continue till early or mid-May.

I explained several times during April that a hard short lockdown was needed, not this pussyfooting of closing one little thing every week. If you looked at successful lockdowns in other countries you would have seen that method (we used) was quite pointless and only hard lockdowns really had effect. We made the same mistakes many others made rather than looking at what successful countries did. Pure stupidity.

We took the hard approach in mid to late May, when cases were already spiraling out of control.

But by that standard, Barbados is not doing an early lockdown then.

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Postby Wraith King » July 12th, 2021, 11:11 am

Dohplaydat wrote:
Habit7 wrote:What are early lockdowns? Because back then you said we were already too restricted? Wasn't that an early lockdown?

Or did you want us to close retail and food services at 35 cases a day for 2months? The same way you were crying for livelihoods then, you would have been crying even more after such a move. Barbados is implementing more restrictions at around the level of increase we were at when we added more restrictions. Stop making it as if they are doing something so great.



Basically, things like not leaving gyms open till April 29th and then allowing non-essential work to continue till early or mid-May.

I explained several times during April that a hard short lockdown was needed, not this pussyfooting of closing one little thing every week. If you looked at successful lockdowns in other countries you would have seen that method (we used) was quite pointless and only hard lockdowns really had effect. We made the same mistakes many others made rather than looking at what successful countries did. Pure stupidity.

We took the hard approach in mid to late May, when cases were already spiraling out of control.


A group of middle aged and above, unattractive women will tell you borders opening and you can go to Barbados.

It's a shame that Trinidad is only better of than Haiti in the Caribbean. What happened to this nation? Where did it all go wrong?

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Postby MaxPower » July 12th, 2021, 11:17 am

Trinis need a wake up call…

This wave was too easy.

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Postby redmanjp » July 12th, 2021, 11:38 am

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It's a shame that Trinidad is only better of than Haiti in the Caribbean. What happened to this nation? Where did it all go wrong?


brazilian/gamma variant. we are closest to south america and can't seem to protect the sea borders

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Postby redmanjp » July 12th, 2021, 11:48 am

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It's taken about 2 months to reach 140k persons fully vaccinated which is approx 10%.

That should include most of the elderly and those with NCDs.

At what % should we reopen?


not sure about that. in terms of ppl with diabetes alone we have like 180,000. and that 140k includes workers in various sectors being vaccinated so i think we still have a significant amount of elderly and ppl with NCDs to do. they better allocate more than half of the 800000 to them - that way once they are vaxxed u end what is called the acute stage of the pandemic where they is a high portion of ppl being hospitalized and dying. it will continue to spread among young ppl but because they are lower risk u get a lot less ppl being hospitalized and dying. because if u try to vaccinate a lot of young ppl that is where u will encounter a LOT of hesitancy or downright refusal to take the vaccine, the US still not quite at herd immunity yet but hospitalizations are way down from winter time as they vulnerable population is largely covered. only in a few areas with low vax rates they seeing increases dur to delta infecting unvaccinated ppl

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Postby Wraith King » July 12th, 2021, 12:26 pm

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Wraith King wrote:
It's a shame that Trinidad is only better of than Haiti in the Caribbean. What happened to this nation? Where did it all go wrong?


brazilian/gamma variant. we are closest to south america and can't seem to protect the sea borders


I interpreted "can't seem to protect the borders" as the government lacking the political will to protect the borders from either not interested for no particular reason or because they have to leave the borders porous to facilitate arms, drugs and human trafficking for the persons who are really in control.

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Postby aaron17 » July 12th, 2021, 1:15 pm

MaxPower wrote:Trinis need a wake up call…

This wave was too easy.
We needed to do a uk lockdown..one of the longest lockdown in the world.

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Postby Kickstart » July 12th, 2021, 1:19 pm

aaron17 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Trinis need a wake up call…

This wave was too easy.
We needed to do a uk lockdown..one of the longest lockdown in the world.
We need to fire the present government for mismanagement of Covid

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Postby MaxPower » July 12th, 2021, 1:35 pm

Kickstart wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Trinis need a wake up call…

This wave was too easy.
We needed to do a uk lockdown..one of the longest lockdown in the world.
We need to fire the present government for mismanagement of Covid


Hmmmmm

Well i wouldnt say fire because they have done some good, but i think i may be able to also agree with you to an extent.

We need to be a step ahead for the next wave.

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Postby bluefete » July 12th, 2021, 1:41 pm

aaron17 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Trinis need a wake up call…

This wave was too easy.
We needed to do a uk lockdown..one of the longest lockdown in the world.


And you, no doubt, will pay the wages of those you will be making unemployed. Right?


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Postby Wraith King » July 12th, 2021, 1:43 pm

bluefete wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Trinis need a wake up call…

This wave was too easy.
We needed to do a uk lockdown..one of the longest lockdown in the world.


And you, no doubt, will pay the wages of those you will be making unemployed. Right?


They either selfish or unaware of the number of citizens that rely on doing odd jobs or day work to survive.

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Postby st7 » July 12th, 2021, 2:01 pm

RedVEVO wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Barbados reintroduces lockdowns due to spike
Confirmed cases of Delta, Gamma and Alpha variants there

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Deaths in Barbados = 48

Deaths in T&T = 937

The social and logical response should be to vaccinate ( 800,000 vaccines due tomorrow ) then open .

Not before :roll:


agreed. but govt got their ulterior motives. i guess they want another lockdown to happen to kill some more 'weeds'

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Postby teems1 » July 12th, 2021, 2:02 pm

Kickstart wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Trinis need a wake up call…

This wave was too easy.
We needed to do a uk lockdown..one of the longest lockdown in the world.
We need to fire the present government for mismanagement of Covid


And replace with who? Kamla led UNC?

The very same Kamla who wanted to open the borders since July 2020.

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Postby st7 » July 12th, 2021, 2:09 pm

teems1 wrote:
Kickstart wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Trinis need a wake up call…

This wave was too easy.
We needed to do a uk lockdown..one of the longest lockdown in the world.
We need to fire the present government for mismanagement of Covid


And replace with who? Kamla led UNC?

The very same Kamla who wanted to open the borders since July 2020.


wasn't that only to allow our citizens back into the country, and not foreigners?

but not kamla for sure... we screwed basically unless a new party with a great rep pops up... so we screwed lol

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Postby teems1 » July 12th, 2021, 2:50 pm

st7 wrote:
teems1 wrote:
Kickstart wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Trinis need a wake up call…

This wave was too easy.
We needed to do a uk lockdown..one of the longest lockdown in the world.
We need to fire the present government for mismanagement of Covid


And replace with who? Kamla led UNC?

The very same Kamla who wanted to open the borders since July 2020.


wasn't that only to allow our citizens back into the country, and not foreigners?

but not kamla for sure... we screwed basically unless a new party with a great rep pops up... so we screwed lol


Yes, she wanted to allow our citizens back.

But it would have also included all those who were basically living in the US full time who needed a place to live after being evicted/jobless etc due to Covid.

They'd come back to Trinidad and live with granny for a few months until things cool down in the US and when the US economy reopened then they're straight back out.

The US was going though the worst of it, with hundreds of thousands of new cases and thousands of deaths per day.

Rowley keeping the borders shut kept these "Trinis in passport only" out, who have never contributed a cent directly in taxes who had a high chance of using the local health system.

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Postby 2WNBoost » July 12th, 2021, 3:11 pm

Once again comparing territories with different population sizes by using actual numbers instead of percentages.

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Postby aaron17 » July 12th, 2021, 5:11 pm

57! hmmm

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 12th, 2021, 5:17 pm

aaron17 wrote:57! hmmm

Monday's numbers are usually low

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Postby redmanjp » July 12th, 2021, 5:20 pm

^yeah. next ting they hit we a 300 tomorrow or wednesday. d same ting with deaths. one day 2 next day 10.

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Postby adnj » July 12th, 2021, 5:26 pm

The last time that reported cases were below 99 was 21 April.

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Postby MaxPower » July 12th, 2021, 5:34 pm

Wow

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