COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[K74T]

Heh.

[hover11]

Like how they use the word "encourage" when we really know it's coerce

Heh.

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[Gem_in_i]

I am a no nonsense guy...i always have to buck up my parents regards to covid regulations and masks wearing. Is like I have to be their eyes and reason all the time...

Things u have to do to protect ur loved ones.

Same with my husband and his parents, especially with his father.

[BUG]

Hmm that's sounds really communist are you ok there Fidel?

Stupid question Trinidad’s response is to open the boarders however being vaccinated does NOT mean immune! They aren’t putting vaccinated people in quarantine upon entry so the ppl without symptoms are all welcomed to bring delta here for the majority of the population which is unvaccinated...hmm what could go wrong

Open borders is and lifted restrictions is going to be real pressure on the unvaccinated.

Well what may happen is a LOCKDOWN for unvaccinated persons, everyone will have to move around with their Vaccination cards, and multiple roadblocks nation wide every day... if you are unvaccinated youre to stay in lockdown, and if you have had at least your first shot you can go about your business.
Penalty for being out of lockdown if youre unvaccinated will be a HUGE fine or jail if you cant pay.
Its coming..dont worry...............

I'm very curious to know what an economic ideology that advocates for a classless system in which the means of production are owned communally has to do with pandemic lockdowns?

According to the crazies in this thread we're living in Nazi Communist Germany. The only problem with this theory is that the Nazis hated communists and socialists as much or even more than the Jews and rounded them up for their concentration camps and communism has nothing to do with pandemic lockdowns.

[Mmoney607]

Heh.

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Why every business want to seem to be on the side of the pnm? But anyway that's mouttet, head of the pnm recovery committee.

BTW, the white house had an event for 4th of July, no vaccination required. But everything for small minded 3rd world citizens, is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.

[adnj]

Heh.

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Why every business want to seem to be on the side of the pnm? But anyway that's mouttet, head of the pnm recovery committee.

BTW, the white house had an event for 4th of July, no vaccination required. But everything for small minded 3rd world citizens, is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.

What point are you trying to make? The USA has been pushing vaccines for the last six months.

[matr1x]

We did a lockdown with financial aid.

Or at least nothing transparent.





No wonder people clamoring for lifting restrictions

[j.o.e]

Heh.

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Why every business want to seem to be on the side of the pnm? But anyway that's mouttet, head of the pnm recovery committee.

BTW, the white house had an event for 4th of July, no vaccination required. But everything for small minded 3rd world citizens, is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.

Over 60% of American adults are fully vaccinated. That percentage is even higher in some states and cities. So explain what you’re trying to suggest

[Habit7]

Some rough news on my end. Pertaining to friends of the family, elderly couple spent two weeks in Couva with the Brazilian variant. Only the father made, his wife died. They got it from the father's sister who also died. Brazilian variant is prominent in the biche, rio claro, plum mitan area!
That same elderly guy has a cousin who has been in couva for more than a month now. Its a case where an entire street(family) is under the gun atm...facepalm

Funny you mention those areas, I know for a fact lots of them old people liming together on weekends so it's no surprise cases high there.

Move aside vigils and Tobago Easter, more uninformed ppl are only going to read this headline, lean on their bias and conclude the first come first serve vaccine drive caused a HUGE spike.

COVID-19 Cases Rising in Elderly, Vaccine Rush not to Blame
By CNC3 Editor -July 7, 2021

Over the past month, the Ministry of Health has observed an increasing number of COVID-19 cases in people over 60 years. However, the ministry’s Epidemiology Division’s Technical Director, Dr Avery Hinds, says no data points to the vaccine rush fiasco as driving the spread.

Dr Hinds pointed out the trend in cases during his epidemiological update at Wednesday’s Ministry of Health virtual press conference. Asked by Guardian Media if the two events which occurred around the same time were related, he said: “The short answer is actually no.”
“What we were seeing is a steady increase over a given timeframe that actually preceded that incident where there were people lining up for a time period that was actually reasonably short.”
Dr Hinds said the ministry monitored for spikes two weeks after the incidents occurred “and actually did not see one.”
“The possibility is that because it was in limited numbers of places and the duration was actually cut short by dispersing the crowds etcetera, the event itself may not have had the time to generate the spike that we may have been looking for or expecting if that had gone on for longer or had involved more people,” he said.

He said a large number of the cases seen in this elderly category of people was because of clusters occurring within elder care facilities. This, he said, is why the ministry has been trying to encourage people within these facilities to get vaccinated.
Dr Hinds later added that infections in the elderly population outside of the eldercare facilities came from infected individuals within their households.

“Sometimes they don’t know where they actually would have picked up the illness because nobody in the household was ill. But we did see quite a few cases of in-house spread, and again we want to emphasise the importance of the isolation behaviours and precautions even within the household when you are a COVID positive patient that doesn’t require hospitalisation,” he said.

Within the first few weeks of June, hundreds of mainly older adults flooded health centres and medical facilities with the hope of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, many of whom were turned away. The events catalysed concern that the mass gatherings could lead to increased infections, especially among some of the most vulnerable in the population.

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/covid-19-cases-r ... -to-blame/

[Mmoney607]

Some rough news on my end. Pertaining to friends of the family, elderly couple spent two weeks in Couva with the Brazilian variant. Only the father made, his wife died. They got it from the father's sister who also died. Brazilian variant is prominent in the biche, rio claro, plum mitan area!
That same elderly guy has a cousin who has been in couva for more than a month now. Its a case where an entire street(family) is under the gun atm...facepalm

Funny you mention those areas, I know for a fact lots of them old people liming together on weekends so it's no surprise cases high there.

Move aside vigils and Tobago Easter, more uninformed ppl are only going to read this headline, lean on their bias and conclude the first come first serve vaccine drive caused a HUGE spike.

COVID-19 Cases Rising in Elderly, Vaccine Rush not to Blame
By CNC3 Editor -July 7, 2021

Over the past month, the Ministry of Health has observed an increasing number of COVID-19 cases in people over 60 years. However, the ministry’s Epidemiology Division’s Technical Director, Dr Avery Hinds, says no data points to the vaccine rush fiasco as driving the spread.

Dr Hinds pointed out the trend in cases during his epidemiological update at Wednesday’s Ministry of Health virtual press conference. Asked by Guardian Media if the two events which occurred around the same time were related, he said: “The short answer is actually no.”
“What we were seeing is a steady increase over a given timeframe that actually preceded that incident where there were people lining up for a time period that was actually reasonably short.”
Dr Hinds said the ministry monitored for spikes two weeks after the incidents occurred “and actually did not see one.”
“The possibility is that because it was in limited numbers of places and the duration was actually cut short by dispersing the crowds etcetera, the event itself may not have had the time to generate the spike that we may have been looking for or expecting if that had gone on for longer or had involved more people,” he said.

He said a large number of the cases seen in this elderly category of people was because of clusters occurring within elder care facilities. This, he said, is why the ministry has been trying to encourage people within these facilities to get vaccinated.
Dr Hinds later added that infections in the elderly population outside of the eldercare facilities came from infected individuals within their households.

“Sometimes they don’t know where they actually would have picked up the illness because nobody in the household was ill. But we did see quite a few cases of in-house spread, and again we want to emphasise the importance of the isolation behaviours and precautions even within the household when you are a COVID positive patient that doesn’t require hospitalisation,” he said.

Within the first few weeks of June, hundreds of mainly older adults flooded health centres and medical facilities with the hope of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, many of whom were turned away. The events catalysed concern that the mass gatherings could lead to increased infections, especially among some of the most vulnerable in the population.

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/covid-19-cases-r ... -to-blame/

We was expecting him to say anything different?

[Mmoney607]

Heh.

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Why every business want to seem to be on the side of the pnm? But anyway that's mouttet, head of the pnm recovery committee.

BTW, the white house had an event for 4th of July, no vaccination required. But everything for small minded 3rd world citizens, is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.

Over 60% of American adults are fully vaccinated. That percentage is even higher in some states and cities. So explain what you’re trying to suggest

Right they are the chief promoters of vaccination, yet they didn't require vaccination to attend the party. But 2x4 minded people here saying vaccinate to operate.

[st7]

Some rough news on my end. Pertaining to friends of the family, elderly couple spent two weeks in Couva with the Brazilian variant. Only the father made, his wife died. They got it from the father's sister who also died. Brazilian variant is prominent in the biche, rio claro, plum mitan area!
That same elderly guy has a cousin who has been in couva for more than a month now. Its a case where an entire street(family) is under the gun atm...facepalm

Funny you mention those areas, I know for a fact lots of them old people liming together on weekends so it's no surprise cases high there.

Move aside vigils and Tobago Easter, more uninformed ppl are only going to read this headline, lean on their bias and conclude the first come first serve vaccine drive caused a HUGE spike.

COVID-19 Cases Rising in Elderly, Vaccine Rush not to Blame
By CNC3 Editor -July 7, 2021

Over the past month, the Ministry of Health has observed an increasing number of COVID-19 cases in people over 60 years. However, the ministry’s Epidemiology Division’s Technical Director, Dr Avery Hinds, says no data points to the vaccine rush fiasco as driving the spread.

Dr Hinds pointed out the trend in cases during his epidemiological update at Wednesday’s Ministry of Health virtual press conference. Asked by Guardian Media if the two events which occurred around the same time were related, he said: “The short answer is actually no.”
“What we were seeing is a steady increase over a given timeframe that actually preceded that incident where there were people lining up for a time period that was actually reasonably short.”
Dr Hinds said the ministry monitored for spikes two weeks after the incidents occurred “and actually did not see one.”
“The possibility is that because it was in limited numbers of places and the duration was actually cut short by dispersing the crowds etcetera, the event itself may not have had the time to generate the spike that we may have been looking for or expecting if that had gone on for longer or had involved more people,” he said.

He said a large number of the cases seen in this elderly category of people was because of clusters occurring within elder care facilities. This, he said, is why the ministry has been trying to encourage people within these facilities to get vaccinated.
Dr Hinds later added that infections in the elderly population outside of the eldercare facilities came from infected individuals within their households.

“Sometimes they don’t know where they actually would have picked up the illness because nobody in the household was ill. But we did see quite a few cases of in-house spread, and again we want to emphasise the importance of the isolation behaviours and precautions even within the household when you are a COVID positive patient that doesn’t require hospitalisation,” he said.

Within the first few weeks of June, hundreds of mainly older adults flooded health centres and medical facilities with the hope of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, many of whom were turned away. The events catalysed concern that the mass gatherings could lead to increased infections, especially among some of the most vulnerable in the population.

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/covid-19-cases-r ... -to-blame/

from the pics and videos i saw from that fiasco... the elderly looked spaced out with masks on, no? i didnt think that that would have caused any spikes

of course, everyone with political biases would fight this down. so while Terry did flick up the scene with no kinda plan as usual, nothing bad came from it thankfully

[adnj]

Heh.

FB_IMG_1625617104797.jpeg

Why every business want to seem to be on the side of the pnm? But anyway that's mouttet, head of the pnm recovery committee.

BTW, the white house had an event for 4th of July, no vaccination required. But everything for small minded 3rd world citizens, is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.

Over 60% of American adults are fully vaccinated. That percentage is even higher in some states and cities. So explain what you’re trying to suggest

Right they are the chief promoters of vaccination, yet they didn't require vaccination to attend the party. But 2x4 minded people here saying vaccinate to operate.

You misrepresented the White House event.

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At the White House tonight, there’s very rigorous testing and screening protocols. Those who are vaccinated do not need to wear a mask. Those who are unvaccinated do need to wear a mask.”

A day after the 78-year-old president mingled with mostly maskless crowds at a cherry-picking festival in Michigan, around 1,000 people were invited to his Fourth of July celebration on the White House lawn.

“We’re there to celebrate frontline workers and our military,” Zients said. “And these are people who understand the importance of safety and doing the right thing. I think most of these folks are vaccinated, and we encourage all Americans to get vaccinated as soon as possible.”

Asked why vaccination was not mandated, Zients said: “At the end of the day, it’s an individual choice. We hope all individuals make the right choice here and get vaccinated as soon as possible.”

Speaking to ABC’s This Week, Zients insisted: “The event at the White House is being done in the right way. It’s an outdoor event with testing and screening. Vaccinated people not wearing masks. Unvaccinated people masked. It’s being done in the right way, consistent with [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] guidelines.

“That said, we are doubling down on our efforts across the summer months, we will vaccinate millions more people because you need to get vaccinated to be protected against the Delta variant and against this disease overall.”

The Biden administration missed its aim of having 70% of adult Americans with at least one shot by the holiday weekend.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ouse-event

[st7]

Heh.

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Why every business want to seem to be on the side of the pnm? But anyway that's mouttet, head of the pnm recovery committee.

BTW, the white house had an event for 4th of July, no vaccination required. But everything for small minded 3rd world citizens, is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.

Over 60% of American adults are fully vaccinated. That percentage is even higher in some states and cities. So explain what you’re trying to suggest

Right they are the chief promoters of vaccination, yet they didn't require vaccination to attend the party. But 2x4 minded people here saying vaccinate to operate.

so while i thought the vaccinate to operate is real sheit, just recently i learned from a virologist (and an article Duane posted from either the WHO or CDC website, i cant rem which) that unvaccinated people have a way higher viral load as compared with vax'd people.
That means vaxxed people infected with covid has a way lower chance to spread it, but unvaxxed people has a way higher chance of contracting covid, spreading covid, and allowing variants to be created.

Vaccinate to operate is a poor choice of words IMO. it gives people the wrong idea. there needs to be a more educated campaign if you ask me.

[redmanjp]

^that's true. even the 5% who can get infected after a pfizer vaccine, even the ones who get infected have a much lower viral load then an unvaccinated person. however i don't know if that also applies to variants, especially delta. those variants themselves have an even more higher viral load than the original strain, thus making the person more contagious.

also we don't know how ppl who got sinopharm and got infected whether they also have a reduced load compared to pfizer. the data from seychelles would suggest they are still spreading it.

[hover11]

Pfizer is 65 percent effective only time will tell how Sinopharm Chinese brand stands up against it

[Mmoney607]

Heh.

FB_IMG_1625617104797.jpeg

Why every business want to seem to be on the side of the pnm? But anyway that's mouttet, head of the pnm recovery committee.

BTW, the white house had an event for 4th of July, no vaccination required. But everything for small minded 3rd world citizens, is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.

Over 60% of American adults are fully vaccinated. That percentage is even higher in some states and cities. So explain what you’re trying to suggest

Right they are the chief promoters of vaccination, yet they didn't require vaccination to attend the party. But 2x4 minded people here saying vaccinate to operate.

so while i thought the vaccinate to operate is real sheit, just recently i learned from a virologist (and an article Duane posted from either the WHO or CDC website, i cant rem which) that unvaccinated people have a way higher viral load as compared with vax'd people.
That means vaxxed people infected with covid has a way lower chance to spread it, but unvaxxed people has a way higher chance of contracting covid, spreading covid, and allowing variants to be created.

Vaccinate to operate is a poor choice of words IMO. it gives people the wrong idea. there needs to be a more educated campaign if you ask me.

Vaccinated spread can also create variants that would be able go around the vaccine

[aaron17]

Pfizer is 65 percent effective only time will tell how Sinopharm Chinese brand stands up against it

Booster for worse case....

[daring dragoon]

Heh.

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kfc didnt fire all their workers ?

[st7]

Heh.

FB_IMG_1625617104797.jpeg

Why every business want to seem to be on the side of the pnm? But anyway that's mouttet, head of the pnm recovery committee.

BTW, the white house had an event for 4th of July, no vaccination required. But everything for small minded 3rd world citizens, is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.

Over 60% of American adults are fully vaccinated. That percentage is even higher in some states and cities. So explain what you’re trying to suggest

Right they are the chief promoters of vaccination, yet they didn't require vaccination to attend the party. But 2x4 minded people here saying vaccinate to operate.

so while i thought the vaccinate to operate is real sheit, just recently i learned from a virologist (and an article Duane posted from either the WHO or CDC website, i cant rem which) that unvaccinated people have a way higher viral load as compared with vax'd people.
That means vaxxed people infected with covid has a way lower chance to spread it, but unvaxxed people has a way higher chance of contracting covid, spreading covid, and allowing variants to be created.

Vaccinate to operate is a poor choice of words IMO. it gives people the wrong idea. there needs to be a more educated campaign if you ask me.

Vaccinated spread can also create variants that would be able go around the vaccine

I can't say i could trust you on this offhand -- can you provide a legitimate website stating this?

thanks in advanced!

[bluefete]

Shakes: So sorry to read this. Stay safe, stay strong and support. That is all that can be done

Some rough news on my end. Pertaining to friends of the family, elderly couple spent two weeks in Couva with the Brazilian variant. Only the father made, his wife died. They got it from the father's sister who also died. Brazilian variant is prominent in the biche, rio claro, plum mitan area!
That same elderly guy has a cousin who has been in couva for more than a month now. Its a case where an entire street(family) is under the gun atm...facepalm

[bluefete]

So the Delta (not Brazilian) variant has apparently been making the rounds for the past few weeks.

Of course, all the relevant bodies will deny it.

Source: Highly reliable.

I am just so tired with all the lies we are being fed bout this entire Covid situation.

900 people dead due to a combination of piss poor government management (or was it deliberate?) and Trinbagonian stubbornness.

[redmanjp]

unless that source is the actual UWI lab doing the sequencing i taking it with a pinch of salt, the gamma/Brazilian variant is contagious enough to cause the spread we have now.

[hover11]

You realize delta ravaged INDIA right, to the point they were burning bodies in the streets trust me we don't have delta here ....you will know when it arrives

So the Delta (not Brazilian) variant has apparently been making the rounds for the past few weeks.

Of course, all the relevant bodies will deny it.

Source: Highly reliable.

I am just so tired with all the lies we are being fed bout this entire Covid situation.

900 people dead due to a combination of piss poor government management (or was it deliberate?) and Trinbagonian stubbornness.

[bluefete]

Let us wait and see when they eventually admit it.

Just remember that the Minister of Health, after being a stranger to the truth, was forced to finally admit that the Brazilian variant was here, long after it arrived.

Shakes will know just how much suppression of information is being done by the government.

But say what.

[aaron17]

It will come eventually, there is no denying that.

[aaron17]

Some say we need the delta for burning bodies in the streets and thus we will realize this pandemic is serious.

[Mmoney607]

Heh.

FB_IMG_1625617104797.jpeg

Why every business want to seem to be on the side of the pnm? But anyway that's mouttet, head of the pnm recovery committee.

BTW, the white house had an event for 4th of July, no vaccination required. But everything for small minded 3rd world citizens, is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.

Over 60% of American adults are fully vaccinated. That percentage is even higher in some states and cities. So explain what you’re trying to suggest

Right they are the chief promoters of vaccination, yet they didn't require vaccination to attend the party. But 2x4 minded people here saying vaccinate to operate.

so while i thought the vaccinate to operate is real sheit, just recently i learned from a virologist (and an article Duane posted from either the WHO or CDC website, i cant rem which) that unvaccinated people have a way higher viral load as compared with vax'd people.
That means vaxxed people infected with covid has a way lower chance to spread it, but unvaxxed people has a way higher chance of contracting covid, spreading covid, and allowing variants to be created.

Vaccinate to operate is a poor choice of words IMO. it gives people the wrong idea. there needs to be a more educated campaign if you ask me.

Vaccinated spread can also create variants that would be able go around the vaccine

I can't say i could trust you on this offhand -- can you provide a legitimate website stating this?

thanks in advanced!

Common sense. If spread creates variants, spread could still occur among vaccinated.

[bluefete]

https://news.yahoo.com/should-the-delta ... 02542.html

[K74T]

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