COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[bluefete]

Found out today about a 15 year old who got covid and almost died.

Person came out of Couva and immediately referred to 2 clinics. Long form covid will be a serious challenge.

Better they vaccinate the young ones than have them suffer like that 15 year old.

This lockdown was a total failure. Almost 900 people dead, 33,000 plus cases. Thousands of people desperate and out of work.

More places opening up because Rowley and Kamla ent helping nobody pay their bills. People rather take the risk.

People will do what they have to do to live.

Rich and famous and red balisier people allowed to travel as they please to bring in the different strains of covid.

Well, maybe except for the Brazilian strain - Vene introduced.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Perspective

Close up airports for covid 19

Open back up for what may seem to be the deadliest variant

[Dohplaydat]

Perspective

Close up airports for covid 19

Open back up for what may seem to be the deadliest variant

PNM logic...

[elec2020]

numbers all over the place. Wasn't it 236 yesterday? So thats like a 47 per cent fall in cases in 1 day? okkkkkkkk

[Dohplaydat]

Hospitalizations and Deaths seem to strongly correlate (for obvious reasons). Cases are dipping but seem to have stagnated a bit other than today's dip. That trend might continue as well, but cases are definitely dipping more slowly than we all wanted.

Looks like that magical below 50 number is still at least 2 weeks off.

July may end up being another 200+ deaths and we cross 1000 deaths by July 18th.

[Gladiator]

WTF I hearing... They doing away with state quarantine and opening the border. That is a PNM recipe for disaster.

What really is the plan when Stewart Young say it's up to the individual to manage their own risks.

What the hell really going on?

[aaron17]

Open up the economy...not the borders...

[bluefete]

numbers all over the place. Wasn't it 236 yesterday? So thats like a 47 per cent fall in cases in 1 day? okkkkkkkk

Why are you surprised? Since last year they have been playing (lying) with the numbers.

[bluefete]

Open up the economy...not the borders...

Fully agree.

[bluefete]

WTF I hearing... They doing away with state quarantine and opening the border. That is a PNM recipe for disaster.

What really is the plan when Stewart Young say it's up to the individual to manage their own risks.

What the hell really going on?

The entire PNM FAB vaccinated twice.

Everybody else could dead as far as they are concerned.

[elec2020]

numbers all over the place. Wasn't it 236 yesterday? So thats like a 47 per cent fall in cases in 1 day? okkkkkkkk

Why are you surprised? Since last year they have been playing (lying) with the numbers.

Who knows. Politicians and credibility don't go hand in hand

[Gladiator]

WTF I hearing... They doing away with state quarantine and opening the border. That is a PNM recipe for disaster.

What really is the plan when Stewart Young say it's up to the individual to manage their own risks.

What the hell really going on?

The entire PNM FAB vaccinated twice.

Everybody else could dead as far as they are concerned.

So as soon as they get they Pfizer, everybody else could dead... PNM supporters are really a special bunch to accept and condone that crap.

[CB Style]

Perspective

Close up airports for covid 19

Open back up for what may seem to be the deadliest variant

PNM logic...

Who they will blame this time? Let’s see, no candle light vigils? Oh wait, the truckers had a protest. Yeah Yeah, that’s it.
Dem MC truckers jackass the thing.

[shotta 20]

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Close up airports for covid 19

Open back up for what may seem to be the deadliest variant

Allegedly, there are nine (9) cases already here. They keeping it hush hush obviously.

[Chimera]

we reach the stage a while now that whoever hadda dead hadda dead

[paid_influencer]

Perspective

Close up airports for covid 19

Open back up for what may seem to be the deadliest variant

Allegedly, there are nine (9) cases already here. They keeping it hush hush obviously.

we aren't sequencing every covid case. we probably not even sampling 1% of all the cases. so they find one or two or nine cases, you'd need to scale up that number several times over for a population-wide estimate.

if they find one it probably have a hundred or a few hundreds already spread out in the population.

[drchaos]

all of the variants of concern came about before any significant part of any population was vaccinated. most in fact came about last year before vaccination started.

Large clinical trials for vaccines from the middle to end of last year were mostly done in South Africa, Brazil, UK and India.

I wonder ... why do those places sound soooooo awfully familiar.

awfully familiar is right

Vaccine trials were in many more countries including the US many more in South America and Europe.

Viral mutations are more likely to occur in a host that is unable to effectively combat the replicating virus.

"Researchers have suggested that multiple mutations can arise in the course of the persistent infection of an immunocompromised patient, particularly when the virus develops escape mutations under the selection pressure of antibody or convalescent plasma treatment, with the same deletions in surface antigens repeatedly recurring in different patients."

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12 ... 9-pandemic

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... e-systems/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7971772/

This statement agrees with what I was saying.
Convalescent plasma and monoclonal treatments work just like vaccines that target a single protein to cause selection pressure on virus to mutate.

No. It is saying something that is quite different from your vaccine vs. placebo thesis.

huh? Never have I mentioned Placebo in any thesis. You probably confusing me with that LARPER BUG

Vaccines create selection pressure for viruses to mutate because they target 1 protein.
Your article quote said people treated with antibodies leads to escape mutations which does the same thing as vaccination.

So we agree ...

[drchaos]

Open up the economy...not the borders...

Nah open both.

Time to co-exist with covid.

[adnj]

all of the variants of concern came about before any significant part of any population was vaccinated. most in fact came about last year before vaccination started.

Large clinical trials for vaccines from the middle to end of last year were mostly done in South Africa, Brazil, UK and India.

I wonder ... why do those places sound soooooo awfully familiar.

awfully familiar is right

Vaccine trials were in many more countries including the US many more in South America and Europe.

Viral mutations are more likely to occur in a host that is unable to effectively combat the replicating virus.

"Researchers have suggested that multiple mutations can arise in the course of the persistent infection of an immunocompromised patient, particularly when the virus develops escape mutations under the selection pressure of antibody or convalescent plasma treatment, with the same deletions in surface antigens repeatedly recurring in different patients."

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12 ... 9-pandemic

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... e-systems/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7971772/

This statement agrees with what I was saying.
Convalescent plasma and monoclonal treatments work just like vaccines that target a single protein to cause selection pressure on virus to mutate.

No. It is saying something that is quite different from your vaccine vs. placebo thesis.

huh? Never have I mentioned Placebo in any thesis. You probably confusing me with that LARPER BUG

Vaccines create selection pressure for viruses to mutate because they target 1 protein.
Your article quote said people treated with antibodies leads to escape mutations which does the same thing as vaccination.

So we agree ...

You did. (see the quote below)

When testing vaccinations, the test population must include the vaccinated group and the unvaccinated (placebo) group to determine efficacy.

all of the variants of concern came about before any significant part of any population was vaccinated. most in fact came about last year before vaccination started.

Large clinical trials for vaccines from the middle to end of last year were mostly done in South Africa, Brazil, UK and India.

I wonder ... why do those places sound soooooo awfully familiar.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Perspective

Close up airports for covid 19

Open back up for what may seem to be the deadliest variant

Allegedly, there are nine (9) cases already here. They keeping it hush hush obviously.

I wont say hush hush...i say good planning. As I said earlier...MOH will say it magically appear just after the 17th july..

[Dohplaydat]

Perspective

Close up airports for covid 19

Open back up for what may seem to be the deadliest variant

Allegedly, there are nine (9) cases already here. They keeping it hush hush obviously.

I wont say hush hush...i say good planning. As I said earlier...MOH will say it magically appear just after the 17th july..

Assuming that's true, then we're very likely to spike late August early September. So I take it another 2 month lockdown from Sept to November is in order?

[adnj]

Perspective

Close up airports for covid 19

Open back up for what may seem to be the deadliest variant

Allegedly, there are nine (9) cases already here. They keeping it hush hush obviously.

we aren't sequencing every covid case. we probably not even sampling 1% of all the cases. so they find one or two or nine cases, you'd need to scale up that number several times over for a population-wide estimate.

if they find one it probably have a hundred or a few hundreds already spread out in the population.

Current estimates are that the number of COVID-19 infections are more than 6 times the number detected by testing and that COVID-19 related deaths are more than 1.5 times the reported total. It is estimated that 15% of the population of TTO has already become infected with COVID-19.

Proximity to South America paired with less than effective control of illegal immigration means further border controls accomplish little, if anything. Whatever variant makes its way to Latin America will make its way to TTO.

http://www.healthdata.org/special-analy ... -19-deaths

[MaxPower]

WTF I hearing... They doing away with state quarantine and opening the border. That is a PNM recipe for disaster.

What really is the plan when Stewart Young say it's up to the individual to manage their own risks.

What the hell really going on?

Hello Gladman,

Where you heard this bro?

[S_2NR]

WTF I hearing... They doing away with state quarantine and opening the border. That is a PNM recipe for disaster.

What really is the plan when Stewart Young say it's up to the individual to manage their own risks.

What the hell really going on?

This is for vaccinated individuals. Non vaccinated need to pay for quarantine.
But what do u expect, life needs to go on. Covid isnt going anywhere.
If you wanna live in a bubble until 2030, knock yourself out bro.

Its about time the borders were opened, long overdue!

[elec2020]

if shakes is right lockdowns till maybe december. YAY!

[shaneelal]

[hover11]

Licensing staff have received instructions to report to work from Monday.

[daring dragoon]

if shakes is right lockdowns till maybe december. YAY!

The AG say country not opening till its 15 cases a day maximum.

[aaron17]

Based on this lockdown and how it slowly affecting the spread the spread of this virus..the next delta spike wouldn't even give it a dent.

Would n95 masks and social distancing still cut it?

[aaron17]

if shakes is right lockdowns till maybe december. YAY!

The AG say country not opening till its 15 cases a day maximum.

Ok if its like that....opening aint happening at all..