COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[teems1]

No one knows.

It's a novel virus.

Only time will tell.

Will the delta variant be the last variant of significance? What do you all think? Notice I said last variant of significance not last variant altogether.

[timelapse]

It reach past novel.At this point it's a bestseller

[adnj]

No one knows.

It's a novel virus.

Only time will tell.

Will the delta variant be the last variant of significance? What do you all think? Notice I said last variant of significance not last variant altogether.

There is a new variant of concern already.

There’s now a Delta Plus variant of COVID-19 – what does this mean?

The Delta Plus variant – also known as B.1.617.2.1 or AY.1 – contains a new mutation in the spike protein the virus uses to enter human cells, called K417N. As it’s still closely linked to Delta, it’s been called Delta Plus rather than another letter in the Greek alphabet, according to WHO’s naming system for COVID-19 variants. So far, Delta Plus has been found in relatively low numbers.

India has already been ravaged by the Delta variant, and COVID-19 cases reached a horrifying peak of 400,000 daily cases in May. Last week, India’s Ministry of Health released a statement on Delta Plus citing three characteristics for concern.

These are: increased transmissibility, stronger binding to receptors of lung cells (suggesting easier entry into human cells), and a potential reduction in response to monoclonal antibodies (which could imply that people's immune systems may be less effective against this variant, or that they may be less responsive to lifesaving monoclonal antibody treatments).

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/there ... -does-mean

[drchaos]

all of the variants of concern came about before any significant part of any population was vaccinated. most in fact came about last year before vaccination started.

Large clinical trials for vaccines from the middle to end of last year were mostly done in South Africa, Brazil, UK and India.

I wonder ... why do those places sound soooooo awfully familiar.

[drchaos]

Will the delta variant be the last variant of significance? What do you all think? Notice I said last variant of significance not last variant altogether.

Nope it won't ... We will have further variants end of this year and next year.
By targeting one antigen alone it puts alot of selection pressure on viruses to create antigenic shifts and drifts, Thereby creating more escape variants.

If the vaccine makers can change their formulations to include more antigens beside spike protein alone then this would go a long way in reduce selection pressure on the mutations. Thus reducing the amount of variants we have. Hopefully this happens soon.

[elec2020]

all of the variants of concern came about before any significant part of any population was vaccinated. most in fact came about last year before vaccination started.

Large clinical trials for vaccines from the middle to end of last year were mostly done in South Africa, Brazil, UK and India.

I wonder ... why do those places sound soooooo awfully familiar.

awfully familiar is right

[DTAC]

So we have Delta to the east of us and Lambda to the west and we stuck right in the middle. Now is not the time for border opening.

[l33t2]

all of the variants of concern came about before any significant part of any population was vaccinated. most in fact came about last year before vaccination started.

Large clinical trials for vaccines from the middle to end of last year were mostly done in South Africa, Brazil, UK and India.

I wonder ... why do those places sound soooooo awfully familiar.

awfully familiar is right

Vaccine trials were in many more countries including the US many more in South America and Europe.

[st7]

but how will the govt blame the Delta strain in the country that probably in here before they officially open the borders?

[elec2020]

all of the variants of concern came about before any significant part of any population was vaccinated. most in fact came about last year before vaccination started.

Large clinical trials for vaccines from the middle to end of last year were mostly done in South Africa, Brazil, UK and India.

I wonder ... why do those places sound soooooo awfully familiar.

awfully familiar is right

Vaccine trials were in many more countries including the US many more in South America and Europe.

Wasn't there a kent variant? Also the epsilon variant was first found where? in the US?

https://www.who.int/en/activities/track ... -variants/

[Habit7]

Listen, Jamaica is much less vaccinated than us and they have been mostly opened to foreign arrivals and they have seen no major rise in cases. We did our best for 1year to keep our cases low and succeeded. But from April onward, we lost. Now we are just like everybody else and we have to learn to deal with this virus. There will be Delta to Zeta, but we cannot afford to continue to live like this.

[DMan7]

What's next? Epsilon?

[paid_influencer]

dais not enough letters laff

[adnj]

What's next? Epsilon?

Lambda is already a variant of interest.

[Mmoney607]

Listen, Jamaica is much less vaccinated than us and they have been mostly opened to foreign arrivals and they have seen no major rise in cases. We did our best for 1year to keep our cases low and succeeded. But from April onward, we lost. Now we are just like everybody else and we have to learn to deal with this virus. There will be Delta to Zeta, but we cannot afford to continue to live like this.

So you saying the border closure made no sense and it failed to do what was intended?

[Habit7]

Listen, Jamaica is much less vaccinated than us and they have been mostly opened to foreign arrivals and they have seen no major rise in cases. We did our best for 1year to keep our cases low and succeeded. But from April onward, we lost. Now we are just like everybody else and we have to learn to deal with this virus. There will be Delta to Zeta, but we cannot afford to continue to live like this.

So you saying the border closure made no sense and it failed to do what was intended?

I highlighted the counterpoint to what you are trying to put in my mouth.

[redmanjp]

What's next? Epsilon?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Epsilon_variant

[adnj]

all of the variants of concern came about before any significant part of any population was vaccinated. most in fact came about last year before vaccination started.

Large clinical trials for vaccines from the middle to end of last year were mostly done in South Africa, Brazil, UK and India.

I wonder ... why do those places sound soooooo awfully familiar.

awfully familiar is right

Vaccine trials were in many more countries including the US many more in South America and Europe.

Viral mutations are more likely to occur in a host that is unable to effectively combat the replicating virus.

"Researchers have suggested that multiple mutations can arise in the course of the persistent infection of an immunocompromised patient, particularly when the virus develops escape mutations under the selection pressure of antibody or convalescent plasma treatment, with the same deletions in surface antigens repeatedly recurring in different patients."

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12 ... 9-pandemic

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... e-systems/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7971772/

[drchaos]

all of the variants of concern came about before any significant part of any population was vaccinated. most in fact came about last year before vaccination started.

Large clinical trials for vaccines from the middle to end of last year were mostly done in South Africa, Brazil, UK and India.

I wonder ... why do those places sound soooooo awfully familiar.

awfully familiar is right

Vaccine trials were in many more countries including the US many more in South America and Europe.

Viral mutations are more likely to occur in a host that is unable to effectively combat the replicating virus.

"Researchers have suggested that multiple mutations can arise in the course of the persistent infection of an immunocompromised patient, particularly when the virus develops escape mutations under the selection pressure of antibody or convalescent plasma treatment, with the same deletions in surface antigens repeatedly recurring in different patients."

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12 ... 9-pandemic

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... e-systems/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7971772/

This statement agrees with what I was saying.
Convalescent plasma and monoclonal treatments work just like vaccines that target a single protein to cause selection pressure on virus to mutate.

[drchaos]

Listen, Jamaica is much less vaccinated than us and they have been mostly opened to foreign arrivals and they have seen no major rise in cases. We did our best for 1year to keep our cases low and succeeded. But from April onward, we lost. Now we are just like everybody else and we have to learn to deal with this virus. There will be Delta to Zeta, but we
cannot afford to continue to live like this.

Hoss we couldn’t afford to do what the Gov did since last year.

Y’all forget rich countries can print their way out of a economic crisis. We can’t!

[bluefete]

Listen, Jamaica is much less vaccinated than us and they have been mostly opened to foreign arrivals and they have seen no major rise in cases. We did our best for 1year to keep our cases low and succeeded. But from April onward, we lost. Now we are just like everybody else and we have to learn to deal with this virus. There will be Delta to Zeta, but we cannot afford to continue to live like this.

So you saying the border closure made no sense and it failed to do what was intended?

Can you not see that in the death rate and # of covid cases?

[Habit7]

Listen, Jamaica is much less vaccinated than us and they have been mostly opened to foreign arrivals and they have seen no major rise in cases. We did our best for 1year to keep our cases low and succeeded. But from April onward, we lost. Now we are just like everybody else and we have to learn to deal with this virus. There will be Delta to Zeta, but we
cannot afford to continue to live like this.

Hoss we couldn’t afford to do what the Gov did since last year.

Y’all forget rich countries can print their way out of a economic crisis. We can’t!

You are agreeing with me.

[bluefete]

Listen, Jamaica is much less vaccinated than us and they have been mostly opened to foreign arrivals and they have seen no major rise in cases. We did our best for 1year to keep our cases low and succeeded. But from April onward, we lost. Now we are just like everybody else and we have to learn to deal with this virus. There will be Delta to Zeta, but we
cannot afford to continue to live like this.

Hoss we couldn’t afford to do what the Gov did since last year.

Y’all forget rich countries can print their way out of a economic crisis. We can’t!

Jamaica is a rich country?

[Habit7]

Listen, Jamaica is much less vaccinated than us and they have been mostly opened to foreign arrivals and they have seen no major rise in cases. We did our best for 1year to keep our cases low and succeeded. But from April onward, we lost. Now we are just like everybody else and we have to learn to deal with this virus. There will be Delta to Zeta, but we
cannot afford to continue to live like this.

Hoss we couldn’t afford to do what the Gov did since last year.

Y’all forget rich countries can print their way out of a economic crisis. We can’t!

Jamaica is a rich country?

Covid care about your wealth? What is your point?

[Mmoney607]

Listen, Jamaica is much less vaccinated than us and they have been mostly opened to foreign arrivals and they have seen no major rise in cases. We did our best for 1year to keep our cases low and succeeded. But from April onward, we lost. Now we are just like everybody else and we have to learn to deal with this virus. There will be Delta to Zeta, but we
cannot afford to continue to live like this.

Hoss we couldn’t afford to do what the Gov did since last year.

Y’all forget rich countries can print their way out of a economic crisis. We can’t!

Jamaica is a rich country?

Covid care about your wealth? What is your point?

You saying that Dr Rowley, Dr parasram and the rest of the pnm totally failed the country.

*applause*

[Dohplaydat]

Listen, Jamaica is much less vaccinated than us and they have been mostly opened to foreign arrivals and they have seen no major rise in cases. We did our best for 1year to keep our cases low and succeeded. But from April onward, we lost. Now we are just like everybody else and we have to learn to deal with this virus. There will be Delta to Zeta, but we
cannot afford to continue to live like this.

Hoss we couldn’t afford to do what the Gov did since last year.

Y’all forget rich countries can print their way out of a economic crisis. We can’t!

Jamaica is a rich country?

Covid care about your wealth? What is your point?

You saying that Dr Rowley, Dr parasram and the rest of the pnm totally failed the country.

*applause*

Habit finally admitting the border closure was the stupidest most pointless thing ever. Nice.

[adnj]

all of the variants of concern came about before any significant part of any population was vaccinated. most in fact came about last year before vaccination started.

Large clinical trials for vaccines from the middle to end of last year were mostly done in South Africa, Brazil, UK and India.

I wonder ... why do those places sound soooooo awfully familiar.

awfully familiar is right

Vaccine trials were in many more countries including the US many more in South America and Europe.

Viral mutations are more likely to occur in a host that is unable to effectively combat the replicating virus.

"Researchers have suggested that multiple mutations can arise in the course of the persistent infection of an immunocompromised patient, particularly when the virus develops escape mutations under the selection pressure of antibody or convalescent plasma treatment, with the same deletions in surface antigens repeatedly recurring in different patients."

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12 ... 9-pandemic

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... e-systems/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7971772/

This statement agrees with what I was saying.
Convalescent plasma and monoclonal treatments work just like vaccines that target a single protein to cause selection pressure on virus to mutate.

No. It is saying something that is quite different from your vaccine vs. placebo thesis.

[Habit7]

Listen, Jamaica is much less vaccinated than us and they have been mostly opened to foreign arrivals and they have seen no major rise in cases. We did our best for 1year to keep our cases low and succeeded. But from April onward, we lost. Now we are just like everybody else and we have to learn to deal with this virus. There will be Delta to Zeta, but we
cannot afford to continue to live like this.

Hoss we couldn’t afford to do what the Gov did since last year.

Y’all forget rich countries can print their way out of a economic crisis. We can’t!

Jamaica is a rich country?

Covid care about your wealth? What is your point?

You saying that Dr Rowley, Dr parasram and the rest of the pnm totally failed the country.

*applause*

Habit finally admitting the border closure was the stupidest most pointless thing ever. Nice.

Where did I say that?

[DMan7]

[ProtonPowder]

implying our glorious commander wants private businesses to resume