Gulf of Paria Underwater Welders Deaths: Lawsuits Filed

[sMASH]

Gross negligence and incompetence by Paria.
How tf could a Hot Work Permit be issued for a line not purged of hydrocarbons and gas tested?
How could the isolation valve not be LOTO?
If Goebbels Young's drawing of the pipe is accurate, why wasn't the open end where the divers were working not blinded/capped?
Job Supervisor/Manager who signed off on this is in trouble.

I thought they said was a pump that was turned on?

LOTO...wham, is the cleaners that organized that job?
hoss, is reallll shiz went on for this incindent to occur.

[sMASH]

too many things had to go wrong for this to happen.
too many things AGAINST best work practices.
too many things against ESTABLISHED safety standards.

[nervewrecker]

Gross negligence and incompetence by Paria.
How tf could a Hot Work Permit be issued for a line not purged of hydrocarbons and gas tested?
How could the isolation valve not be LOTO?
If Goebbels Young's drawing of the pipe is accurate, why wasn't the open end where the divers were working not blinded/capped?
Job Supervisor/Manager who signed off on this is in trouble.

I thought they said was a pump that was turned on?

LOTO...wham, is the cleaners that organized that job?
hoss, is reallll shiz went on for this incindent to occur.

leme tell you how chain of command goes

man 1 to man 2: lock out tag off that pump dey, we have some men coming to do work on that pipe

man 2 to man 3: lock out tag off that pump dey, we have some work gunna take place

man 3 to man 4: oh, lock out tag off that pump dey

man 4 to man 5: eh, dat pump off?

man 5: yeah

man 4: well doh turn it on eh.

man 5: why?

man 4: some work going an do

man 5: aright, the overload will trip anyways if they turn it on, shift change is just now, write it off as "for shift x attention"

shift x: das nuh we work, dem pamming off wuck on we. *proceeds to pull up tik tok on phone*

.....a few moments later....

*pump on timer starts*

Pump motor should have been disconnected in addition to LOTO with tag securely attached, starter breaker off, overload tripped, control fuses pulled or control breaker turned off, HOA in off position with LOTO tag securely attached and leads dropped off under the overload. some men go the extra mile of putting a lock they own on the panel and they have the key.

If it is DOL you can even go so far as to drop off one leg going to the contactor coil or some men take the whole contactor assembly.

Motor disconnected, it could never start.

Leads dropped off from in starter, cable cannot be energized.

HOA off, it off.

Starter wired wrong and fuses bypassed, contactor coil cannot be energized with overload tripped provided control circuit passing through like it should, with legs dropped off it cannot be energized via control circuit (HOA or timer if timer wired on another circuit and HOA bypassed).

Breaker switched on and contactor pressed down manually, overload open and leads dropped off.

3 minutes job top's.

Electricity does not forgive, there is no middle ground between done right or wrong.

[sMASH]

we had a loto form, then book that gets signed by the field ops and the sups, before the permits get issued.

somebodies hadda make some jail.

[MaxPower]

The people responsible need to be whipped violently and charged for manslaughter.

[zoom rader]

The people responsible need to be whipped violently and charged for manslaughter.

That's the red government appointment board members.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

The people responsible need to be whipped violently and charged for manslaughter.

In another country maybe...not Trinidad

[Chimera]

Too much people know about this. Someone body will get charged and that board will all resign

[AbstractPoetic]

Too much people know about this. Someone body will get charged and that board will all resign

All credit goes to PEA and PEP for publicizing this. It gained international traction with the help of PEA's social media platforms. There are so many questions that remain, but I don't think this would have been as publicized if not for PEA's cohort.

[The_Honourable]

Diving accident survivor moved to private hospital

Christopher Boodram, the lone survivor of last weekend’s diving tragedy, has been moved to a private hospital.

Speaking to Guardian Media, his brother Larry said Christopher remains severely traumatized by the ordeal.

“We have stopped him from talking about what happened because every time he talks, he breaks down and cries. We are praying for him, and we just want him to get better,” Larry said.

Christopher Boodram was pulled out of the pipeline by diver Ronald Ramoutar, three hours after they were sucked into a vortex at the 30-inch diameter seabed pipeline which connects in a horse-shoe Berth’s No 5 and 6.

Boodram had been trapped inside the line along with Fyzal Kurban, Rishi Nagessar, Yusuff Henry and Kazim Ali Jr but was the only one to escape the ordeal.

Ramoutar said it was because of Kurban that he managed to bring Boodram to safety. The toxic fumes from the pipeline affected Boodram’s lungs and doctors said this may affect him in years to come.

Larry said after his brother was pulled out of the pipeline, no other diver was sent in to rescue the other men. The Coast Guard divers did not have their diving gear and the rescue mission was aborted even though the men were still stuck in the pipeline.

Kurban’s sister Haffeza Kurban-Hyatali described her brother as an excellent diver who had over 30 years of experience. She said their father Ramjohn had died in 1985 after an offshore platform exploded, yet Kurban joined the commercial diving fraternity because of his love for the job.

Meanwhile, Rishi Nagessar’s wife Vanessa Kussie said operations were still underway to find her husband’s body. Her family had given up hope that he would be alive.

Three other bodies were retrieved on Monday afternoon.

Source: https://www.cnc3.co.tt/diving-accident- ... -hospital/

[16 cycles]

"motor turned on" is a confirmed event or speculation leading up to the loss of lives?

Theory: Pipeline could have 'burped' some time air after the machinery lock out -and water rushed in to take its place causing the dive bell near by to be affected and the divers sucked in...?

[Arcmanov]

Based on that 'Delta P' video, it seems likely that a lot of safety/contingency protocols weren't in place, or weren't followed by the dive team.

Just my layman's assessment.
I stand to be corrected though.

[De Dragon]

Gross negligence and incompetence by Paria.
How tf could a Hot Work Permit be issued for a line not purged of hydrocarbons and gas tested?
How could the isolation valve not be LOTO?
If Goebbels Young's drawing of the pipe is accurate, why wasn't the open end where the divers were working not blinded/capped?
Job Supervisor/Manager who signed off on this is in trouble.

I thought they said was a pump that was turned on?

They said plug failure. If a 36 inch pipe of that length and capacity loses seal, the volume of water rushing in is unimaginable

[De Dragon]

we had a loto form, then book that gets signed by the field ops and the sups, before the permits get issued.

somebodies hadda make some jail.

Still leaves room for pencil whipping and mistakes
Even contractors working on deenergized equipment HAVE to place their personal lock on the MCC breaker for the affected equipment. This ensures that it cannot be started unless all locks are off, and even then according to the complexity of system, a field check is still done before the equipment is restarted.
Of course BEFORE all this, a JA/JHA/LOTO/isolation/work/emergency procedure has to be done by a multidisciplinary team, and approved off by a Lead, or Supervisor NOT on the team.
Then the JA/JHA has to be reviewed by the entire team, and signed by all involved in the job, and signed by them. If someone comes after the safety briefing to join the work team, then the RA/JHA/LOTO procedure MUST be done again with them.
Petrotrin/Paria too long in this game, and too many lives have been lost, not to have a system like this, or similar in place.

[sMASH]

reall tings had to go wrong for this to happen.

[De Dragon]

reall tings had to go wrong for this to happen.

Sadly the root cause of many incidents is the multiple "little" failures, or causal factors which could have prevented the root cause.

[zoom rader]

reall tings had to go wrong for this to happen.

Sadly the root cause of many incidents is the multiple "little" failures, or causal factors which could have prevented the root cause.

The Cheese hole lining up effect.

[sMASH]

reall tings had to go wrong for this to happen.

Sadly the root cause of many incidents is the multiple "little" failures, or causal factors which could have prevented the root cause.

set ups and slip ups. a lapse safety culture.

[De Dragon]

reall tings had to go wrong for this to happen.

Sadly the root cause of many incidents is the multiple "little" failures, or causal factors which could have prevented the root cause.

set ups and slip ups. a lapse safety culture.

State owned companies tend to be more lax in HSE practices.

[sMASH]

i started to make that connection when the contractor was pinned and died, when removing the caroni bailey bridge.

niquan was a series of incompetence from the get go.

[De Dragon]

i started to make that connection when the contractor was pinned and died, when removing the caroni bailey bridge.

niquan was a series of incompetence from the get go.

Did their CEO relinquish the land he allegedly grabbed in Damian's Bay?

[sMASH]

Phillip said he was interviewed internationally concerning this matter.
So this might reach international news, and ought end up in training videos for industrial accidents.

[zoom rader]

Phillip said he was interviewed internationally concerning this matter.
So this might reach international news, and ought end up in training videos for industrial accidents.

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Meanwhile Rowlee gone into hiding

[De Dragon]

Phillip said he was interviewed internationally concerning this matter.
So this might reach international news, and ought end up in training videos for industrial accidents. FB_IMG_1646249880474.jpg

Meanwhile Rowlee gone into hiding

JUHN Scarfy bless up the plebery with a Russia/Ukraine statement yet?
Or he waiting until after today when adolescent girls will be back in school and unavailable for wining up on?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

The search continues for diver Rishi Nagassar.

In a release on Wednesday, Paria Fuel Trading Limited said operations continued throughout Tuesday night to recover Mr. Nagassar, who was part of an LMCS Limited crew conducting underwater maintenance at 36 Sealine riser on Berth 6 at Paria’s facility in Pointe-a-Pierre.

On Monday, the company confirmed that the bodies of three of the divers, Fyzal Kurban, Yusuf Henry, and Kazim Ali Junior were found.

On Wednesday, the company said it dedicated significant resources to ensuring they recover Mr. Nagassar’s body responsibly and respectfully. Paria said consultation meetings were held throughout Tuesday night with other technical experts to review alternative methods. They have attempted to use remotely operated cameras to try and locate the body, but have not been successful.

The company also urged the public and interest groups to be thoughtful of presenting or sharing misinformation to the various media platforms. They also gave the assurance they will continue to provide updates, first to the
families, and to the public, on the progress of the recovery operation.

[Chimera]

wonder if the autopsy would be able to accurately state a time of death

this gonna be 10 times worse for the families if they say they were alive more than 24 hours after being trapped

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ the narrative may be that "they died immediately"

[pugboy]

seems they still aren’t able to run the remote vehicles the entire length to see

[Mercenary]

^ the narrative may be that "they died immediately"

indeed

[supercharged turbo]

I'm not in the least knowledgable about the way those pipelines run and such but something not adding up.Today making it a week already and you mean to say allyuh still can't recover the last diver yet?Nah man...this is beyond MADNESS!