Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

[Redress10]

When did Guyana get independence from the British? When did Venezuela?

When did this dispute begin?

[Dizzy28]

When did Guyana get independence from the British? When did Venezuela?

When did this dispute begin?

Is there something about acknowledging that Venezuela is also a colonial construct that you seem to hate?

[Redress10]

When did Guyana get independence from the British? When did Venezuela?

When did this dispute begin?

Is there something about acknowledging that Venezuela is also a colonial construct that you seem to hate?

And Guyana's independence from Britain created a new construct. How can the current occupiers of Guyana justify being there when the first indians only arrived in India in 1839. Less than 200 years ago.

[K74T]

So Kamla sending warnings and talking greasy to Maduro now. On behalf of WHOOOOO?!!!

She not important at this stage and is just noise.

Yep.
Nearly everything she does reeks of desperation for attention, a lil bit again she could wear an orange jersey.

hoss imagine if she was in charge right now......she and Padarath woulda made one sticky mess

Dem busing dry coconuts?

PASHAWWW

[DMan7]

So where all the people striking in the streets for Guyana? They did it for Israel / Palestine conflict but they can't do it for people in their own backyard? This goes to show that Trini's are a bunch of follow fashion on certain trends and was just following what the US was doing.

[The_Honourable]

So where all the people striking in the streets for Guyana? They did it for Israel / Palestine conflict but they can't do it for people in their own backyard? This goes to show that Trini's are a bunch of follow fashion on certain trends and was just following what the US was doing.

We eh reach all dey yet. Is when annexation start then we'll see who standing with Guyana or not.

Keep in mind with the Israel/Palestine conflict, trinis want peace yes but we actually don't care in general because it's none of our business. It's really some in our local muslim population that standing up and showing solidarity for Palestine which I give them credit for.

[DMan7]

So where all the people striking in the streets for Guyana? They did it for Israel / Palestine conflict but they can't do it for people in their own backyard? This goes to show that Trini's are a bunch of follow fashion on certain trends and was just following what the US was doing.

We eh reach all dey yet. Is when annexation start then we'll see who standing with Guyana or not.

Keep in mind with the Israel/Palestine conflict, trinis want peace yes but we actually don't care in general because it's none of our business. It's really some in our local muslim population that standing up and showing solidarity for Palestine which I give them credit for.

President Ali is Muslim, what going on?

[maj. tom]

$100 USD is about $21,000 GYD right now.
They really need that oil.

[zoom rader]

So where all the people striking in the streets for Guyana? They did it for Israel / Palestine conflict but they can't do it for people in their own backyard? This goes to show that Trini's are a bunch of follow fashion on certain trends and was just following what the US was doing.

We eh reach all dey yet. Is when annexation start then we'll see who standing with Guyana or not.

Keep in mind with the Israel/Palestine conflict, trinis want peace yes but we actually don't care in general because it's none of our business. It's really some in our local muslim population that standing up and showing solidarity for Palestine which I give them credit for.

Jah bless dem local & world Muslims, I don't see eye to eye to them but when human life is involved it is a different matter.

[Chimera]

So where all the people striking in the streets for Guyana? They did it for Israel / Palestine conflict but they can't do it for people in their own backyard? This goes to show that Trini's are a bunch of follow fashion on certain trends and was just following what the US was doing.

Only Sunday this vote was done and it will start to be taken seriously.

I done dust off my guyanese passport and dp and does clout up any Spanish I see.

I doing my part

[j.o.e]

hmm. should we stock up from now? in case tings get bad.

That have nothing to do with we.

[PariaMan]

Wars tend to spread . Best we stock up

[Dizzy28]

Venezuela dropped a new state map today.

Hopefully this ends the same way the last time a larger more powerful neighbour invaded its smaller weaker neighbour over oil.

[zoom rader]

Venezuela dropped a new state map today.

Hopefully this ends the same way the last time a larger more powerful neighbour invaded its smaller weaker neighbour over oil.

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Jah Bless Vene for presenting their original map.

[paid_influencer]

Wars tend to spread . Best we stock up

anywhere selling cards for duolingo ?

[pugboy]

toilet paper ?

Wars tend to spread . Best we stock up

[Chimera]

Wars tend to spread . Best we stock up

there are alot of venezuelan ex military/contras/guerillas here as well as the vene ppl on the whole are in the tens of thousands

alot of guyanese here as well

wouldn't be surprised if fights and bacchanal start to break out locally amongst them

[bluefete]

As mentioned above:

There goes T&T's Dragon Gas Deal. We are screwed!

Is Venezuela preparing to invade Guyana? Russia and Iran-ally President Maduro stakes claim to oil-rich region of former British colony and authorizes teams to begin drilling

Venezuela's president on Tuesday published a new map of the region showing two thirds of neighboring Guyana 'reclaimed' by Caracas and ordered the state-owned energy companies to 'immediately' begin exploration in the area, as fears rose that Nicolas Maduro could start a war.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... aduro.html

[PariaMan]

Caricom will have to send soldiers. Trini Army men put your estate in order for next of kin

[triniterribletim]

Wars tend to spread . Best we stock up

there are alot of venezuelan ex military/contras/guerillas here as well as the vene ppl on the whole are in the tens of thousands

alot of guyanese here as well

wouldn't be surprised if fights and bacchanal start to break out locally amongst them

Dotish Trinis let in a whole fifth column. Who you think they are going to support? What about when they start clamoring for Trinidad to be "returned" like some of them already do. The ones on Facebook already call the Guayanese "slaves and pajeets the British slavemasters abandoned to run wild", they probably feel the same way about Trinidad. Soon separatist tensions may be something Trinidad will have to deal with. Remember the Frog and the Scorpion!

[16 cycles]

https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/f ... -00-en.pdf

[maj. tom]

Suddenly the fishing boundaries dispute will start. Then one day foreign piracy will start hitting the remote small settlements on our south west coast.

[shaneelal]

Some were thinking this was just a political ploy but seems Maduro has serious plans.




Venezuela's Maduro pledges to permit oil, mines development in disputed territory
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 023-12-06/

CARACAS/GEORGETOWN, Dec 5 (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said on Tuesday he would authorize oil exploration in an area subject to a dispute with Guyana, which said it would report his comments to the United Nations and the International Court of Justice (ICJ).

Maduro's pledge to permit development around the Esequibo river came after his government held a referendum over the weekend where voters rejected the ICJ's jurisdiction over the disagreement and backed creating a new state in the territory.

Though Maduro has repeatedly said the referendum is binding, the ICJ - whose overall ruling on the case could be years away - last week barred Venezuela from taking any action which changes the status quo in the oil-rich region.

State oil company PDVSA and state iron and steel maker CVG will create divisions for the disputed region, Maduro said.

The state companies will "immediately proceed to create the division PDVSA Esequibo and CVG Esequibo and immediately we'll proceed to give operating licenses for the exploration and exploitation of oil, gas and mines in our Guayana Esequiba," he said on state television.

Maduro also said he has proposed a law to the government-controlled legislature to create the new state, and companies already operating in waters in the area would have three months to leave.

Guyanese President Irfaan Ali said in comments later on Tuesday that Maduro was showing "blatant disregard" for the ICJ ruling.

"Guyana will be reporting this matter early in the morning. We will write the U.N. Security Council and the court," Ali said in a national broadcast. "The Guyana Defense Force is on high alert ... Venezuela has clearly declared itself an outlaw nation."

He has already spoken to U.N. Secretary General Antonio Guterres, Ali said.

Venezuela reactivated its claim over the 160,000 square km (61,776 square mile) territory in recent years, after the discovery of offshore oil and gas. The maritime border between the two countries is also in dispute.

A consortium led by Exxon Mobil (XOM.N) began producing oil off Guyana's coast in late 2019 and exports started in 2020.

Guyana, which is currently producing some 400,000 barrels per day of oil and gas, this year received bids for new shallow water and deep water blocks from local and foreign companies in its first international bidding round. The exploration licenses for those areas have not been signed.

Ali said investors in Guyana have nothing to worry about.

"Our message is very clear, your investments are safe," he said. "Our international partners and international community are ready and they have assured us of their support."

"Border issues are for governments and appropriate international organizations to address," an Exxon spokesperson said in response to questions.

Analysts have said the vote was an attempt by Maduro to gauge his government's support ahead of a 2024 presidential election.

[maj. tom]

President Ali has fool's hope. And he is leaning on the ICJ a lot and hoping that international relations can help. He is actually helpless and powerless.

Venezuela will invade the territory and claim it, and Guyana really cannot and won't do anything. Any direct military action will have a most obvious outcome.

And the world will watch and do nothing really but talk maybe send some money to feed some people, just like with Ukraine. Let's hope this annexation will mostly be peaceful. And let's try to face the reality.

And if it happens to Trinidad one day, it'll be the same course of events and reaction by us.

[pugboy]

exactly who is going to do the oil/gas exploration for maduro ?
all such work is done by the big companies
doubt any of them going to venture into this brouha

[Chimera]

exactly who is going to do the oil/gas exploration for maduro ?
all such work is done by the big companies
doubt any of them going to venture into this brouha

Russian and Chinese companies

[Chimera]

America will step in to help ExxonMobil though.

Maduro might just not wake up a morning and everyone will get the message not to firetruck with America's interest.


The firetruck up thing is guyana also have tens of thousands of Venezuelans living there.....you have what is essentially the enemy living in your house....

When bacchanal start it easy for them to attack and bomb places in guyana if it come to that.

[MaxPower]

exactly who is going to do the oil/gas exploration for maduro ?
all such work is done by the big companies
doubt any of them going to venture into this brouha

Pug,

Oil is money.

No one cares about Guyana.

[pugboy]

yeah it is unlikely it will reach to that maduro making the first major move
uncle sam/exxon are certainly poised

[Dizzy28]

Wars tend to spread . Best we stock up

there are alot of venezuelan ex military/contras/guerillas here as well as the vene ppl on the whole are in the tens of thousands

alot of guyanese here as well

wouldn't be surprised if fights and bacchanal start to break out locally amongst them

Dotish Trinis let in a whole fifth column. Who you think they are going to support? What about when they start clamoring for Trinidad to be "returned" like some of them already do. The ones on Facebook already call the Guayanese "slaves and pajeets the British slavemasters abandoned to run wild", they probably feel the same way about Trinidad. Soon separatist tensions may be something Trinidad will have to deal with. Remember the Frog and the Scorpion!

Nooo ........Tuner Big Brains say that have nothing to do we, we need to stay quiet!!