Race car runs into spectators at Wallerfield

[rollingstock]

What is the definition of a road under the mv&rt act? And then ask yourself where the accident happened.

What is the police's authority wrt material evidence in an investigation?

But then again everyone is a lawyer.

[rollingstock]

I see the 2nr lawyers quiet, so I'll hand feed you all again.

“road” means any street, road or open space to which the public are
granted access and any bridge over which a road passes, and
includes any privately owned street, road or open space to which
the public are granted access either generally or conditionally;

[rollingstock]

Now seeing I have given the definition of a road according to the Motor Vehicle and Road Traffic Act.

Would you like to know the definition of a Road Traffic Accident?

[Lance]

Some "Motorsport people" think that the track is a sovereign state yes.

[Aaron 2NR]

Who has jurasdiction to impound a race car that had an accident on a race track?? This is not an accident on public roads

exactly....


I do not believe this falls under their jurisdiction either.....

when accidents happen in the work place, is TTPS called in to investigate?

[Lance]

People using the term "accident" and seem to be ignoring the fact that there was bodily harm.

[pete]

Who has jurasdiction to impound a race car that had an accident on a race track?? This is not an accident on public roads

exactly....


I do not believe this falls under their jurisdiction either.....

when accidents happen in the work place, is TTPS called in to investigate?

If the person injured is someone from the public then I think they would get involved if there was negligence on the part of the business.

[pugboy]

is it a criminal or civil lawsuit case ?
If it didn't happen on public roads then it may only be possible for civil lawsuit
in such case police may not give a sheit

[Lance]

is it a criminal or civil lawsuit case ?
If it didn't happen on public roads then it may only be possible for civil lawsuit
in such case police may not give a sheit

This is an important distinction to make as well.

[Aaron 2NR]

Who has jurasdiction to impound a race car that had an accident on a race track?? This is not an accident on public roads

exactly....


I do not believe this falls under their jurisdiction either.....

when accidents happen in the work place, is TTPS called in to investigate?

If the person injured is someone from the public then I think they would get involved if there was negligence on the part of the business.

pete I'm sure you're familiar with the employer side of the OSH act which most ppl rarely familiarise their self with. there are also areas in which the "landlord" has responsibilities in this case ETECK, for the infrastructure safety and safety of the properties.

i asked this question in a conversation when the article appeared and who exactly are they planning on going after, until a contract is brought forward to know the boundaries of TTASA, ETECK and the promoter, its just speculation all around.


Then the other question is did TTPS and TTFS allow the event to start with the stands in its present location. Before any event in which the public is paying to attend and deemed risk (i.e. sale of alcohol, crowd size etc), TTPS and TTFS carry out a sweep to highlight at risk items that must be corrected before they say proceed.

so lots of questions and speculations

i empathise with those injured and really hope they recover soon, since it could have been any of us at the event. It was a very unfortunate incident and I hope a lot of lessons learnt are utilised in a positive manner to make the sport better and safer.....

[pugboy]

public places would be expected to have pl insurance but they usually require the person renting
the premises to have their own so that in any event the renter takes the insurance bounce first
but obviously any smart lawyer will go after everybody and see who get catch liable

this could turn into a real can of worms depending on lawyers involved

on the other hand the girl who got injured in machel montano concert didn't appear to have the means
to hire lawyers to go after machel at any length, that case died a natural death
or she knew machel would be favored in the courts as was proven in a subsequent case

[rollingstock]

I have to stop posting on 2nr with this invisible ink.

[Mercenary]

I have to stop posting on 2nr with this invisible ink.

leff dem nah...they are csi an lawyers in one. kants

[moving]

here comes the pass the buck blame game.

blame ttasa or the ttps and ttfs, or the promoter, or eteck or the fia, or the car and driver.

PPl please accept that sh!t happened. we need to learn from these mistakes and move on..if we want the sport to continue and grow we collectively need to stop bickering and fighting and find real solutions to the problems with the track.
Our track came a long way from what it was a few yrs ago. and it will continue to get better once we do not let this situation become the fall of motorsport in T and T.

the last thing we need is to compromise the relationship with all our stakeholders. this includes eteck, ttps,ttfs, the promoters, the fia etc!

[sMASH]

I see the 2nr lawyers quiet, so I'll hand feed you all again.

“road” means any street, road or open space to which the public are
granted access and any bridge over which a road passes, and
includes any privately owned street, road or open space to which
the public are granted access either generally or conditionally;

Then they was speeding...

[sMASH]

I have to stop posting on 2nr with this invisible ink.

Lol,,, nah. At least u know u tried.

[Team Loco]

here comes the pass the buck blame game.

blame ttasa or the ttps and ttfs, or the promoter, or eteck or the fia, or the car and driver.

PPl please accept that sh!t happened. we need to learn from these mistakes and move on..if we want the sport to continue and grow we collectively need to stop bickering and fighting and find real solutions to the problems with the track.
Our track came a long way from what it was a few yrs ago. and it will continue to get better once we do not let this situation become the fall of motorsport in T and T.

the last thing we need is to compromise the relationship with all our stakeholders. this includes eteck, ttps,ttfs, the promoters, the fia etc!

Exactly.

[boosted_wrx]

So when is the next event ?

[pete]

There was karting there last week, drifting in two weeks and superstreet the week after that.

[boosted_wrx]

Nice...... Well hopefully Motorsport doesn't die out things will be good, hopefully we learn from this experience and regulating bodies make apporiate adjustments