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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby matix » February 1st, 2016, 2:59 pm

I wouldn't doubt that. That's why we as citizens need to stand up against tutu like that. I did that with some work and man was I wrong. They victimize you so swiftly.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby RASC » February 1st, 2016, 3:26 pm

We did stand up.
They won't be seeing office for the next half generation or so!

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 1st, 2016, 3:27 pm

BRZ wrote:LAst UNC contractor in elsocorro came and build a Pavement directly on top of GRASS, not even removing the grass, no foundation , no nutthen, just boxed poured and next day pulled off boxing and then collected a few million!


And why none of these people are being charged? is what I want to know!!!

It have a box drain here a unc contractor put down, you know they didn't full the concrete blocks with cement or anything? and even worse they put to little cement in the sand so when the drain full with water the blocks falling off with the current from the water :lol:

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby Rory Phoulorie » February 1st, 2016, 4:15 pm

The current government is in the process of auditing these State enterprises where there are allegations of corruption and poor quality work (EFCL, HDC, NIDCO, et. al.) occurring under the past government.

From what I understand, they are uncovering clear evidence of corruption. So let us see whether the findings of the audits will be made public and people held accountable.

I really hope that the current government takes legal action against those who were clearly involved in wrongdoing, as opposed to keeping this information to use against the opposition when they, the PNM, wants to get something passed in parliament.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby RASC » February 1st, 2016, 4:35 pm

Rory Phoulorie wrote:The current government is in the process of auditing these State enterprises where there are allegations of corruption and poor quality work (EFCL, HDC, NIDCO, et. al.) occurring under the past government.

From what I understand, they are uncovering clear evidence of corruption. So let us see whether the findings of the audits will be made public and people held accountable.

I really hope that the current government takes legal action against those who were clearly involved in wrongdoing, as opposed to keeping this information to use against the opposition when they, the PNM, wants to get something passed in parliament.


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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby Redman » February 1st, 2016, 6:45 pm

I really hope that the current government takes legal action against those who were clearly involved in wrongdoing, as opposed to keeping this information to use against the opposition when they, the PNM, wants to get something passed in parliament.


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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby sMASH » February 2nd, 2016, 7:00 am

How much it gonna cost to get the hospital up and running, compared to the stadium.

We already rent so many facilities for Government businesses, we could rent out the qps or any other grounds, WE ALREADY HAVE to do our sports diversification.

I don't know if u all aware, but at San'do hospital they treat you while you wait in the corridor for a bed. Sometimes 24 hours can meet you right where u started. From what I've seen for visiting hours, there's is no vacancy.


We already have places to play and film cricket, let us spend 90mil+ assumed cost over run, on a hospital.



If they so want to rehabilitate sumting, they have sumting to start in already

Lol.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby Habit7 » February 2nd, 2016, 7:38 am

sMASH wrote:I don't know if u all aware, but at San'do hospital they treat you while you wait in the corridor for a bed. Sometimes 24 hours can meet you right where u started. From what I've seen for visiting hours, there's is no vacancy.


We already have places to play and film cricket, let us spend 90mil+ assumed cost over run, on a hospital.



If they so want to rehabilitate sumting, they have sumting to start in already

Lol.
The opening of the Couva Hospital is not dependant on funds but on specialised staff.

To the UNC's credit the expansion of the Sando Hospital more or less solved overcrowding on the wards. Even when there a ward is full they but you on another ward far away and the doctors still include you on their ward rounds. So I don't know where you have recently seen overcrowding at Sando Hospital.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby Redman » February 2nd, 2016, 9:33 am

If they so want to rehabilitate sumting, they have sumting to start in already


Yeah like the shiddy roads that underqualified contractors overcharged for...with no oversite cuz elections coming ...dont study it.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby desifemlove » February 2nd, 2016, 10:25 am

if PNM want to do a stadium, update Hasely Crawford to FIFA standards.

Attract top teams to have friendlies, even host tournaments like U-21 or U-17. since football is more popular in viewership and participation makes more sense.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby EmilioA » February 2nd, 2016, 10:51 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:And what is being revealed below is a solid old pitch road from PNM era. Is it that things are just being done horribly by contractors now or PNM was more strict with quality of work done by contractors?



The PNM used to just steal 1/3 of the money. The UNC increase that to 2/3. Serious talk.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby antlind » February 2nd, 2016, 11:30 am

EmilioA wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:And what is being revealed below is a solid old pitch road from PNM era. Is it that things are just being done horribly by contractors now or PNM was more strict with quality of work done by contractors?



The PNM used to just steal 1/3 of the money. The UNC increase that to 2/3. Serious talk.


LOL. Therein lies the fundamental difference between both parties.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby sliderz1 » February 2nd, 2016, 11:34 am

brb belt tightening in process

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby Redman » February 2nd, 2016, 12:20 pm

EmilioA wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:And what is being revealed below is a solid old pitch road from PNM era. Is it that things are just being done horribly by contractors now or PNM was more strict with quality of work done by contractors?



The PNM used to just steal 1/3 of the money. The UNC increase that to 2/3. Serious talk.


uhhh no.

The ballah report ...read into Parliament in 1982 by George Chambers estimated that the original PNM stole/'wasted' 66% of the PetroDollars.

Same proportion as the airport.

Allyuh fight up and believe there is a difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3TQoMjXTw

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby sMASH » February 2nd, 2016, 12:47 pm

Habit7 wrote:The opening of the Couva Hospital is not dependant on funds but on specialised staff.

To the UNC's credit the expansion of the Sando Hospital more or less solved overcrowding on the wards. Even when there a ward is full they but you on another ward far away and the doctors still include you on their ward rounds. So I don't know where you have recently seen overcrowding at Sando Hospital.


Not in my observations. Had a few family members got sick last year and that was the stories.

a suggestion i had was to take the land in from the hospital and make it into a multilevel parkade, just like PoS. You would have ample parking for hospital visitors, water taxi commuters, and San'do in general. This way, u can develop the water taxi service further, curbing the need to go the rapid tram route.
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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby Habit7 » February 2nd, 2016, 12:59 pm

Great idea, it is already part of the San Fernando Waterfront plan.

But before we embark on new mega projects, how about we finish the badly financed, over budget, over time, unfinished ones first.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby sMASH » February 2nd, 2016, 1:10 pm

I don't see the return on investment as being COMPARATIVELY worthwhile. To me, developing the waterfront more tangible, more certain, and is a stepping stone to further development.
The stadium merely relies on the chance that it attracts games, and the chance those games generate revenue. Given that we already have facilities to perform the same function with less additional input, I don't see enough justification to off load so much cash.

Rowley did say to tighten belts.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby Dizzy28 » February 2nd, 2016, 1:26 pm

Habit7 wrote:Great idea, it is already part of the San Fernando Waterfront plan.

But before we embark on new mega projects, how about we finish the badly financed, over budget, over time, unfinished ones first.


Like the Brian Lara Stadium??

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby Habit7 » February 2nd, 2016, 1:50 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Great idea, it is already part of the San Fernando Waterfront plan.

But before we embark on new mega projects, how about we finish the badly financed, over budget, over time, unfinished ones first.


Like the Brian Lara Stadium??

Yes, wasn't I clear enough?

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby Dizzy28 » February 2nd, 2016, 2:38 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Great idea, it is already part of the San Fernando Waterfront plan.

But before we embark on new mega projects, how about we finish the badly financed, over budget, over time, unfinished ones first.


Like the Brian Lara Stadium??

Yes, wasn't I clear enough?


Well there are -
1. Highway to Point
2. Aquatics centre
3. Velodrome
4. Tennis Centre
5. Tamana Intech Park
6. UTT Signature Campus at Wallerfield
7. Couva Hospital
8. MVA Building

to choose from. Wasn't sure nah.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby sliderz1 » February 2nd, 2016, 3:34 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Great idea, it is already part of the San Fernando Waterfront plan.

But before we embark on new mega projects, how about we finish the badly financed, over budget, over time, unfinished ones first.


Like the Brian Lara Stadium??

Yes, wasn't I clear enough?


Well there are -
1. Highway to Point
2. Aquatics centre
3. Velodrome
4. Tennis Centre
5. Tamana Intech Park
6. UTT Signature Campus at Wallerfield
7. Couva Hospital
8. MVA Building

to choose from. Wasn't sure nah.


9. NAPA
10. Red House

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby Habit7 » February 2nd, 2016, 3:51 pm

Quietly, even the old POS library is being restored.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby EmilioA » February 2nd, 2016, 5:17 pm

Redman wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:And what is being revealed below is a solid old pitch road from PNM era. Is it that things are just being done horribly by contractors now or PNM was more strict with quality of work done by contractors?


The PNM used to just steal 1/3 of the money. The UNC increase that to 2/3. Serious talk.

uhhh no.
The ballah report ...read into Parliament in 1982 by George Chambers estimated that the original PNM stole/'wasted' 66% of the PetroDollars.
Same proportion as the airport.
Allyuh fight up and believe there is a difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3TQoMjXTw



I eh talking about stuff that happen 33 years ago you know. You could argue about that.

I talking about a project in May 2010 costing 50 million under the PNM jumping to 150 million under the PP by September 2010. And that is with the cost of labour and material falling. .

So yeah I go repeat for those that dont want to hear. Manning's PNM was talking about a third. Kamla's PP was talking more than two thirds.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby antlind » February 2nd, 2016, 5:30 pm

EmilioA wrote:
Redman wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:And what is being revealed below is a solid old pitch road from PNM era. Is it that things are just being done horribly by contractors now or PNM was more strict with quality of work done by contractors?


The PNM used to just steal 1/3 of the money. The UNC increase that to 2/3. Serious talk.

uhhh no.
The ballah report ...read into Parliament in 1982 by George Chambers estimated that the original PNM stole/'wasted' 66% of the PetroDollars.
Same proportion as the airport.
Allyuh fight up and believe there is a difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3TQoMjXTw



I eh talking about stuff that happen 33 years ago you know. You could argue about that.

I talking about a project in May 2010 costing 50 million under the PNM jumping to 150 million under the PP by September 2010. And that is with the cost of labour and material falling. .

So yeah I go repeat for those that dont want to hear. Manning's PNM was talking about a third. Kamla's PP was talking more than two thirds.


One third. Two thirds. Whatever. They are all a bunch of thieves and one is no better than the other.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby EmilioA » February 2nd, 2016, 5:43 pm

antlind wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
Redman wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:And what is being revealed below is a solid old pitch road from PNM era. Is it that things are just being done horribly by contractors now or PNM was more strict with quality of work done by contractors?


The PNM used to just steal 1/3 of the money. The UNC increase that to 2/3. Serious talk.

uhhh no.
The ballah report ...read into Parliament in 1982 by George Chambers estimated that the original PNM stole/'wasted' 66% of the PetroDollars.
Same proportion as the airport.
Allyuh fight up and believe there is a difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq3TQoMjXTw



I eh talking about stuff that happen 33 years ago you know. You could argue about that.

I talking about a project in May 2010 costing 50 million under the PNM jumping to 150 million under the PP by September 2010. And that is with the cost of labour and material falling. .

So yeah I go repeat for those that dont want to hear. Manning's PNM was talking about a third. Kamla's PP was talking more than two thirds.


One third. Two thirds. Whatever. They are all a bunch of thieves and one is no better than the other.



And yet I guarantee , that if you had a choice about how much you will get robbed by, you will choose the lesser amount.

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby Twin Isle Cars n' Parts » February 3rd, 2016, 2:20 am

Rovin's Audio wrote:economy slowing down badly , ppl getting laid off , regular mthly govt workers being told d previous govt tief out all $ so we eh have to pay allyuh , population being told to tighten u belt & eat cassava , a million other urgent problems + we in d middle of recession [that they finally admit] , cut this\that & d next , everything being scaled back or cancelled but it suddenly have 90 mil available & is a urgent priority to fix a stadium that gonna get use once in a while ... how cud any logical thinking person justify this BS ? .... :|


where all d pressure groups & lobbyist who use to be in news every wk - all dem in hibernation or they got bought out or they approve all d crap that going on so they quiet now ......


Based on your last stmt, those pressure groups & lobbyist as you stated, only ha mouth & strength in groups against a certain more humble, humane group of Trinis...

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby tourniquet » June 5th, 2016, 12:02 pm

How far have they reached with this?

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby De Dragon » June 5th, 2016, 12:24 pm

tourniquet wrote:How far have they reached with this?

Right now how much to t'ief being tendered out. The actual t'iefing will begin at years end, when hastily formed PNM companies will be registered. After all is WTN!

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Re: 90 million to refurbish Brian Lara Stadium

Postby tourniquet » June 7th, 2016, 5:07 pm

lol well that's one explanation. Anyone else? I had to double check and see if they said this year or next year June/ July.

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