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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby urabus » March 20th, 2014, 12:25 am

Yup looking at it on cnn as well...anticipating the Aussies pm press conference

This gets more and more intriguing by the minute

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Postby desifemlove » March 20th, 2014, 12:32 am

So....it flew from the South China Sea to W. Oz.

but why? dis only answers where it went, not why the transponder was removed, or how it had radio silence/blackout.

hmmm...still weird.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby Coppershot » March 20th, 2014, 1:00 am

The tail emergency beacon supposed to broadcast once it hits salt water in case the other emergency becon fails to go off.
They have to bring back hardy boys, nancy drew, muder she wrote to solve this one.
Awaits nat geo documentary on this...

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Postby <=xjemler=> » March 20th, 2014, 8:00 am

Possible debris of the missing jet spotted but NOT confirmed.Officials cautioned it could take several days to confirm if they were parts of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777, and Malaysia's government said the search would continue elsewhere despite the possible sighting in the southern Indian Ocean.

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Postby javishm » March 20th, 2014, 8:10 am

How did this not raise a red flag

According to huffington post

Malaysia’s police chief, Khalid Abu Bakar, said an examination of the flight simulator showed its data log had been cleared on Feb. 3. “The experts are looking at what are the logs that have been cleared,” he told the news conference.
U.S. government sources said intelligence agencies had extensively analysed people on the flight but came up with no connections to terrorism or possible criminal motives.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby Chimera » March 20th, 2014, 8:58 am

how much this search costing btw?

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Postby de_dougla_smurf » March 20th, 2014, 9:08 am

They just grabbing at straws now...

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby streetlifestyle » March 20th, 2014, 9:43 am

Something spotted off Australia and believed to be debris.

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Postby Team Loco » March 20th, 2014, 12:30 pm

yup. they are saying its credible to be a door and another large object. so debris field found

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Postby jsr » March 21st, 2014, 8:24 am

As of this time headlines read : Nothing found yet

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Postby Country_Bookie » March 22nd, 2014, 4:53 pm

As aircraft and ships continued to search for debris which might be that of the missing flight MH370 on Friday a Malaysian woman on a flight across the Indian Ocean claimed to have seen an aircraft in the water near the Andaman Islands on the day the jet disappeared.

The Kuala Lumpur wife was so convinced about what she saw at 2.30pm on March 8, several hours after MH370 vanished, that she filed an official report with police that very day – a full five days before the search for the plane was expanded to the area around the Andaman Islands.

Click here for a detailed timeline on everything that has happened in the past two weeks.

News of her apparent sighting came as a blank was drawn after two days of searching in the Indian Ocean for two objects deemed by experts as possibly being from the missing plane.


JUST HOW CREDIBLE ARE MRS DALELAH’S CLAIMS?
Many will warn against dismissing Mrs Dalelah’s claims too quickly.

The islands do lie across a route MH370 could have taken after radar contact was lost and it would easily have been able to reach them before Mrs Dalelah’s sighting at 2.30pm.

After its transponder was turned off at 1.21am on March 8 the plane, with enough fuel to last 2,500 miles, turned west, following an established route towards India.

An ephemeral satellite ping registered at 8.11am suggested the plane was heading in one of two directions – south to where the potential debris was spotted, or north into China and central Asia.

The Andaman Islands lie 890 miles to the north-west of Kuala Lumpur, well within range.

Officials still haven’t ruled out MH370 being found in a northerly location, with aircraft and ships renewing their search in the Andaman Sea between India and Thailand on Friday.

Her account will be seen by many as having credibility as the islands lie within the northern corridor officials speculated that the plane might have travelled along after radar contact was lost.

However, Mrs Dalelah said she had received scorn about her account, including from a pilot who said the aircraft she was on would have been too high for her to have seen anything on the ocean below.

But mother of 10 Mrs Latife Dalelah, 53, insisted she saw a silver object in the shape of an aircraft on the water as she was flying from Jeddah to Kuala Lumpur. It was about an hour after her aircraft had flown past the southern Indian city of Chennai.

‘Throughout the journey I was staring out of the window of the aircraft as I couldn’t sleep during the flight,’ she told the New Straits Times.

The in-flight monitor showed that her plane was crossing the Indian Ocean and she had seen several shipping liners and islands – before she saw the silvery object.

‘I took a closer look and was shocked to see what looked like the tail and wing of an aircraft on the water,’ she said.

‘I woke my friends on the flight but they laughed me off,’ she added.


The same reaction has come from a pilot who questioned how anyone flying at about seven miles above sea level could see anything like a boat or ship from so high up.

But Mrs Dalelah insisted to the paper: ‘I know what I saw. I am convinced that I saw the aircraft. I will not lie. I had just returned from my pilgrimage.’

A large part of what she thought was an aircraft was submerged, she said. When she tried to tell an air stewardess what she had seen, she was told to get some sleep.

When her plane landed at Kuala Lumpur at about 4pm on that Saturday she told her children what she had seen. ‘That is when they told me that MH370 had gone missing,’ she told the paper.

‘My son-in-law, a policeman, was convinced that I had seen an aircraft and asked me to lodge a police report the same day.

‘Many of my friends on the flight doubted me at first, but they are beginning to believe me now that we know the plane (MH370) turned back and entered the Indian Ocean.’

INDIA DOESN’T WANT CHINESE SHIPS ‘SNIFFING ROUND’ TERRITORY
India has refused China’s offer to send four warships to aid the hunt for MH370 near the Andaman and Nicobar archipelago.

Officials said China’s request to enter Indian territorial waters had been ‘politely turned down’ because Indian warships and aircraft were already searching the area.

One official told The Times of India: ‘The A&N command is our military outpost in the region, which overlooks the Malacca Strait and dominates the Six-Degree Channel.

‘We don’t want Chinese warships sniffing around in the area on the pretext of hunting for the missing jetliner or anti-piracy patrols.’

Many will warn against dismissing Mrs Dalelah’s claims too quickly.

The islands do lie across a route MH370 could have taken after radar contact was lost and it would easily have been able to reach them before Mrs Dalelah’s sighting at 2.30pm.

After its transponder was turned off at 1.21am on March 8 the plane, with enough fuel to last 2,500 miles, turned west, following an established route towards India.

An ephemeral satellite ping registered at 8.11am suggested the plane was heading in one of two directions – south to where the potential debris was spotted, or north into China and central Asia.

The Andaman Islands lie 890 miles to the north-west of Kuala Lumpur, well within range.

Officials still haven’t ruled out MH370 being found in a northerly location, with aircraft and ships renewing their search in the Andaman Sea between India and Thailand on Friday.

Several MailOnline readers, including qualified pilots, have left comments backing Mrs Dalelah.

Chivers49, from Hertfordshire, said: ‘The captain is being arrogant. An aircraft flying at 35,000ft is quite clear in the sky, so why should it have been “impossible” for her to see a similar image on the sea?’ And Zen, from Perth, Australia, said: ‘You never know they should check everything out and not dismiss anything.’

Zeppelinpilot, from Montreal in Canada, said: ‘Being a pilot for the past 25 years and having flown in this area a few years ago, this appears to be the best lead received so far. According to the pilot incapacitation theory, this seems to the most logical place to look for MH370. We should give full credibility to this eyewitness account and investigate further on this location.’


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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby mark2.0 » March 23rd, 2014, 4:46 pm

Check Somalia

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Postby navin123 » March 23rd, 2014, 5:39 pm

mark2.0 wrote:Check Somalia

same thing i was saying captain philips

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Postby shogun » March 23rd, 2014, 6:08 pm

ABA Trading LTD wrote:how much this search costing btw?



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Postby 3stagevtec » March 23rd, 2014, 7:44 pm

Amazing no solid evidence found as yet..

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby nervewrecker » March 23rd, 2014, 10:52 pm

Seeing all over fb wreckage found.

Donno of is hoax

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Postby killercow » March 23rd, 2014, 11:35 pm

nervewrecker wrote:Seeing all over fb wreckage found.

Donno of is hoax

If it not on BBC iz most likely not true
(thus far I haven't seen anything on BBC / CNN).

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Postby javishm » March 23rd, 2014, 11:40 pm

Don't think anything was found this far

Really sad though.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby SRASC » March 24th, 2014, 10:20 am

"Investigators conclude that missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean, Malaysian PM says." via @cnnbrk

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Postby Redman » March 24th, 2014, 10:25 am

Why are the transponders able to be switched off?

Is there a legitimate reason that a pilot would want the transponder switched off??

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Postby Chimera » March 24th, 2014, 10:26 am

Redman wrote:Why are the transponders able to be switched off?

Is there a legitimate reason that a pilot would want the transponder switched off??


suppose he see a next plane in the air and he brushing the wife of the pilot of the next plane.....
ent he would want to duck him?

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Postby ~*Pãñdorą*~ » March 24th, 2014, 10:33 am

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26716572

Missing plane lost, Malaysia says

Najib Razak: "It is with deep sadness and regret, that according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean."
Malaysia's prime minister has announced on the basis of new analysis it must be concluded that missing flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean.

He said Malaysia Airlines had told the families of the 239 people on board.

Earlier the BBC saw a text message sent to families saying it had to be assumed "beyond reasonable doubt" that the plane was last and there were no survivors.

Flight MH370 went missing after taking off on 8 March.

The announcement by PM Najib Razak came on the fifth day of an international search effort in the southern Indian Ocean.

Based on new analysis the UK's Air Accidents Investigation Branch and Inmarsat, the UK company that provided satellite data, "have concluded that MH370 flew along the southern corridor, and that its last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean, west of Perth," he said.

"This is a remote location, far from any possible landing sites. It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that, according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean."

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby Chimera » March 24th, 2014, 10:37 am

that screwed up tho

you would never really know if family dead or not.
hope all the families get the maximum amount of money for the deaths


what would happen to people with life insurance policies etc? ent the families hadda wait a few years because no body found?

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Postby pete » March 24th, 2014, 10:38 am

Redman wrote:Why are the transponders able to be switched off?

Is there a legitimate reason that a pilot would want the transponder switched off??


I think they turn them off when they're on the ground. I guess it's to remove the clutter at airports. Only when they're about to take off they put it on.

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Postby streetlifestyle » March 24th, 2014, 10:41 am

seems they found the plane. (well whats left of it)
(CNN) -- Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 went down over the southern Indian Ocean, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Monday, citing a new analysis of satellite data by a British satellite company and accident investigators.
The announcement appeared to rule out the possibility that anyone could have survived whatever happened to the aircraft, which vanished more than two weeks ago with 239 people aboard.
As Razak spoke, airline representatives met with family members in Beijing. "They have told us all lives are lost," one relative of a missing passenger told CNN.
The developments happened the same day as Australian officials announced they had spotted two objects in the southern Indian Ocean that could be related to the flight, which has been missing since March 8 with 239 people aboard.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asi ... s10aVODtop

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Postby Chimera » March 24th, 2014, 10:45 am

i wonder if malaysia airline ticket prices gonna drop .


i know if i ever fly with them, i making sure and pay for the extra insurance.

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Postby ~*Pãñdorą*~ » March 24th, 2014, 10:47 am

So they admit the plane went down.. All lives are lost..
But where is the blame going to be placed for the aircraft flying off course in the first place?!

Pilot? Hijackers?

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby Redman » March 24th, 2014, 11:01 am

ABA Trading LTD wrote:
Redman wrote:Why are the transponders able to be switched off?

Is there a legitimate reason that a pilot would want the transponder switched off??


suppose he see a next plane in the air and he brushing the wife of the pilot of the next plane.....
ent he would want to duck him?


Dat makes more sense than

I think they turn them off when they're on the ground. I guess it's to remove the clutter at airports. Only when they're about to take off they put it on.


:lol: :lol:

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Postby Chimera » March 24th, 2014, 11:08 am

WASHINGTON - Ever since Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared, a fascinated public has asked: Why can somebody in the cockpit shut off the transponder?

It turns out there are several legitimate reasons why a pilot might want to shut off this key form of communication that allows air traffic controllers to identify and track airplanes.

Authorities believe that Flight 370's transponder was intentionally shut off, delaying search and rescue efforts and helping to conceal the plane's location - a mystery unsolved more than 10 days after the Boeing 777 vanished.

It's rare for a pilot to turn off a transponder during flight, but occasionally there is cause.

-- Sometimes a transponder malfunctions, giving out incorrect readings.

-- The device could have an electrical short or catch on fire. Pilots would want to shut it down rather than risk a fire spreading to the rest of the cockpit or airplane.

-- Pilots used to routinely turn off transponders on the ground at airports so as not to overwhelm air traffic controllers with so many signals in one location. That is increasingly less the case as pilots now use "moving map" displays that take the transponder data and show them the location of other planes on the ground, helping guide them around airports without mishaps.


"As long as there are pilots, they'll be able to switch off systems," said Andrew Thomas, editor-in-chief of the Journal of Transportation Security.

Airplanes have two transponders. There are two knobs in the cockpit - one on the right, the other on the left - that control one or the other. When one transponder is on, the other is normally in standby mode.

To turn off a transponder, a pilot turns a knob with multiple positions and selects the "off" setting. The second transponder doesn't automatically activate if the first one is shut down - a knob would also have to be turned. In this case, it appears one transponder was turned off, and the second not activated.

Ross Aimer, a retired United Airlines pilot and former 777 instructor, said it is possible that one pilot could reach up and turn off the transponder without the other pilot seeing it, say if one was looking away or distracted.

If the plane was in contact with an air traffic controller, the controller would alert the pilots that the transponder signal had been lost. But, Aimer - now head of Aero Consulting Experts - said, if they were not in contact with an air traffic controller, a pilot might miss it if the other shut down the transponder.

In the case of the missing Malaysian plane, even pilots are a bit puzzled by somebody turning off the transponder.

John Gadzinski, a Boeing 737 captain, said that among fellow pilots "there is a raised eyebrow like Spock on 'Star Trek' - you just sit there and go, 'why would anybody do that?'"

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Re: Malaysia Airlines loses plane carrying 239 people on boa

Postby jsr » March 24th, 2014, 11:12 am

Another briefing by the Malaysian authorities suggesting that the South Indian Ocean is the likely place the aircraft went down. Reports of objects seen by aircrew and satellite images.

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