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Postby Mr. Red Sleeper » September 19th, 2013, 2:32 pm

Thought Thursday was the start of Friday all the time.....**burp*

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Re: penal guntas

Postby zoom rader » September 19th, 2013, 2:41 pm

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rfari wrote:Ive requested proof, documentation of what u fellas referring to. Nothing has come forward. Im willing to accept even a devant maharaj editorial as some measure of proof. Not the rumshop stories u fellas pushing here


Do as SKY is doing and research for yourself .

I did my research and there is no proof. So im urging u to do the same and u can reach a more informed conclusion on the discussion.

Did you go out speak to the old injuns that once lived or living in st james. You are not going to find these things on the net or any books. Do you speak to injuns on the hold?

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Re: penal guntas

Postby Habit7 » September 19th, 2013, 2:41 pm

DionYorker wrote:
rfari wrote:
DionYorker wrote:pnm was a more fair administration than this pp government. ppl were hired on qualifications and experience. not ethnicity or party affiliation. great is the pnm indeed.


I supposed that Hazel was very qualified for her post then..it was not because she was the PM's wife then?

I also guess that with all fairness Justice Sharma was unfit to sit

Radio for Hindus was denied because the line minister was fair

the fair administration of the PNM is the same fairness of it current inept leader.....

U know hazel qualifications? Can u say that she was unfit for the job?
Radio for hindus or radio for sat to peddle racial division?



Racial Division....

when it was that a sitting Prime Minister in any Democratic country could hire his own wife after she did not even know the plural of break fast. Come on man lets be real.

The Minister of finance pulled out all she money from Clico just in time.

The Sports minister paid 4 million for a national flag worth only a few thousand

Two conferences, Two NAPA, and a second oil boom for which we have nothing to show.

How many tournaments did Brian hold with his daddy footing the bill when poor children were being sacrificially abandoned so a megalomaniac could fill his eyeballs with the glitz of a third world African leader's persona.

Sat does not peddle racial division in fact he peddles the same standards of the Balisier House.

Isn't that true, since in Gov't they only wore the Balisier ties to mean that they served just that..themselves.....

Say what you want man black youths and crime today are the children of failed PNM strategies of a dependence and ultimate power ego.

In a small nation of mere 1.3 mil the PNM is the product of colonial division to the ultimate, there is absolutely no foresight or promise since they seek there own. That what makes the party a waste of time.

They profit on the backs of the very same "recalcitrant minority" and for the most part this is what their supporters also do. Blasted parasites....... :drinking: :drinking:


Hazel Manning not knowing the plural of breakfast is no different than Adesh Nanan not knowing how to pronounce paradigm

Karen withdrawning her money is before the DPP to see whether she did anything wrong

Hunt paid $2 million for the flag which we can all look at today, rather than Anil's failed LocalizeIt campaign that spent $2 million on a failed Nicki Minaj concert

If after the Manning administration we have nothing to show... what do we have to show for the PP who are spend 25% more?

I dont know how many tournaments?

Nah, Sat on next level.

My tie today is blue, do I only work for blue ppl?




It sad to hear supposed youth ppl peddle the arguments of drunken old men with the purpose of dividing this country with no beneficial end. You are just as much a scurge on this country as any young black male who engages in crime. At least he can be arrested, but your idealogy would be passed on for generations until one of your offspring gets wiser.


P.S. I never called you racist

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Re: penal guntas

Postby DionYorker » September 19th, 2013, 2:58 pm

Habit7 wrote:
DionYorker wrote:
rfari wrote:
DionYorker wrote:pnm was a more fair administration than this pp government. ppl were hired on qualifications and experience. not ethnicity or party affiliation. great is the pnm indeed.


I supposed that Hazel was very qualified for her post then..it was not because she was the PM's wife then?

I also guess that with all fairness Justice Sharma was unfit to sit

Radio for Hindus was denied because the line minister was fair

the fair administration of the PNM is the same fairness of it current inept leader.....

U know hazel qualifications? Can u say that she was unfit for the job?
Radio for hindus or radio for sat to peddle racial division?



Racial Division....

when it was that a sitting Prime Minister in any Democratic country could hire his own wife after she did not even know the plural of break fast. Come on man lets be real.

The Minister of finance pulled out all she money from Clico just in time.

The Sports minister paid 4 million for a national flag worth only a few thousand

Two conferences, Two NAPA, and a second oil boom for which we have nothing to show.

How many tournaments did Brian hold with his daddy footing the bill when poor children were being sacrificially abandoned so a megalomaniac could fill his eyeballs with the glitz of a third world African leader's persona.

Sat does not peddle racial division in fact he peddles the same standards of the Balisier House.

Isn't that true, since in Gov't they only wore the Balisier ties to mean that they served just that..themselves.....

Say what you want man black youths and crime today are the children of failed PNM strategies of a dependence and ultimate power ego.

In a small nation of mere 1.3 mil the PNM is the product of colonial division to the ultimate, there is absolutely no foresight or promise since they seek there own. That what makes the party a waste of time.

They profit on the backs of the very same "recalcitrant minority" and for the most part this is what their supporters also do. Blasted parasites....... :drinking: :drinking:


Hazel Manning not knowing the plural of breakfast is no different than Adesh Nanan not knowing how to pronounce paradigm

Karen withdrawning her money is before the DPP to see whether she did anything wrong

Hunt paid $2 million for the flag which we can all look at today, rather than Anil's failed LocalizeIt campaign that spent $2 million on a failed Nicki Minaj concert

If after the Manning administration we have nothing to show... what do we have to show for the PP who are spend 25% more?

I dont know how many tournaments?

Nah, Sat on next level.

My tie today is blue, do I only work for blue ppl?




It sad to hear supposed youth ppl peddle the arguments of drunken old men with the purpose of dividing this country with no beneficial end. You are just as much a scurge on this country as any young black male who engages in crime. At least he can be arrested, but your idealogy would be passed on for generations until one of your offspring gets wiser.


P.S. I never called you racist



Ease up hoss...the blacks in crime has no ideology cause the PNM ensured that he had no idea at all. If I am wrong go check the jails and find out where most of the criminals from.

Bossman read my last post nah...i goin for a jink yeah........

BTW in all instances when you counter a wrong with a wrong you make yourself look small. Referring to me as a surge, equivalent to a murdering no good thug makes me feel unfazed, you made my point....Pnm is plain ignorance..
If yuh was in Gate Boys it woulda be level cuss... :drinking
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Re: penal guntas

Postby rfari » September 19th, 2013, 3:03 pm

zoom rader wrote:
rfari wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
rfari wrote:Ive requested proof, documentation of what u fellas referring to. Nothing has come forward. Im willing to accept even a devant maharaj editorial as some measure of proof. Not the rumshop stories u fellas pushing here


Do as SKY is doing and research for yourself .

I did my research and there is no proof. So im urging u to do the same and u can reach a more informed conclusion on the discussion.

Did you go out speak to the old injuns that once lived or living in st james. You are not going to find these things on the net or any books. Do you speak to injuns on the hold?

Great aunt lived there until mid 2000s. I spoke to her and she denied that. And it will be of interest to you to know her ethnicity and political party. Shes indo and last time she voted was in the late 80s for robbie

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Re: penal guntas

Postby speedmelter » September 19th, 2013, 3:11 pm

Habit7 wrote:
DionYorker wrote:
rfari wrote:
DionYorker wrote:pnm was a more fair administration than this pp government. ppl were hired on qualifications and experience. not ethnicity or party affiliation. great is the pnm indeed.


I supposed that Hazel was very qualified for her post then..it was not because she was the PM's wife then?

I also guess that with all fairness Justice Sharma was unfit to sit

Radio for Hindus was denied because the line minister was fair

the fair administration of the PNM is the same fairness of it current inept leader.....

U know hazel qualifications? Can u say that she was unfit for the job?
Radio for hindus or radio for sat to peddle racial division?



Racial Division....

when it was that a sitting Prime Minister in any Democratic country could hire his own wife after she did not even know the plural of break fast. Come on man lets be real.

The Minister of finance pulled out all she money from Clico just in time.

The Sports minister paid 4 million for a national flag worth only a few thousand

Two conferences, Two NAPA, and a second oil boom for which we have nothing to show.

How many tournaments did Brian hold with his daddy footing the bill when poor children were being sacrificially abandoned so a megalomaniac could fill his eyeballs with the glitz of a third world African leader's persona.

Sat does not peddle racial division in fact he peddles the same standards of the Balisier House.

Isn't that true, since in Gov't they only wore the Balisier ties to mean that they served just that..themselves.....

Say what you want man black youths and crime today are the children of failed PNM strategies of a dependence and ultimate power ego.

In a small nation of mere 1.3 mil the PNM is the product of colonial division to the ultimate, there is absolutely no foresight or promise since they seek there own. That what makes the party a waste of time.

They profit on the backs of the very same "recalcitrant minority" and for the most part this is what their supporters also do. Blasted parasites....... :drinking: :drinking:


Hazel Manning not knowing the plural of breakfast is no different than Adesh Nanan not knowing how to pronounce paradigm

Karen withdrawning her money is before the DPP to see whether she did anything wrong

Hunt paid $2 million for the flag which we can all look at today, rather than Anil's failed LocalizeIt campaign that spent $2 million on a failed Nicki Minaj concert

If after the Manning administration we have nothing to show... what do we have to show for the PP who are spend 25% more?

I dont know how many tournaments?

Nah, Sat on next level.

My tie today is blue, do I only work for blue ppl?




It sad to hear supposed youth ppl peddle the arguments of drunken old men with the purpose of dividing this country with no beneficial end. You are just as much a scurge on this country as any young black male who engages in crime. At least he can be arrested, but your idealogy would be passed on for generations until one of your offspring gets wiser.


P.S. I never called you racist


this in itself expresses your piss poor thinking. all the flabbergastery you are talking about unity i cant seem to imagine you living it with that mind.

let me guess you see criminals as "ah scene where ah man hada live" rite?

how the firetruck can my ideology being passed down to my offspring compare to that of a group of pple whose method of living is to physically rob, feel pride by instilling fear into productive people and their biggest goal in life is to consistently go on a boat ride and drive in a foreign used.

the things i have said are not made up or formed opinions. like it or hate it, they are facts. eric williams and his PNM screwed up this country from the very beginning using race as a tool for division. that didnt start up in any rum shop.

governments would come after and always follow suite. the template for divide has always been there, indian or african it doesnt matter. you want documentation and proof of all kinds of things. but look around and look at things, see the way things are. then ask yourself why things are they way it is. you would find your answers.

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Re: penal guntas

Postby pioneer » September 19th, 2013, 3:13 pm

DionYorker wrote:Honestly if we all look at it no politician ever suffers.

They are all well off from both sides they party together, lime together, cry together and in my opinion pretend to fight each other.

I have never seen a poor politician from any party PP, PNM , UNC or COP.

They play people for fools, the majority rules and they do too none better.

All this rum shop talk making me feel to turn this Thursday into a early Friday drinkin .... :drinking: :drinking:


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Re: penal guntas

Postby toyota2nr » September 19th, 2013, 3:23 pm

zoom rader wrote:
rfari wrote:this reminds me of the chagwest by-elections and unc had these pnm looking ppl in ilp jerseys intimidating residents. and then unc accused ilp of bringing black people to take over chagwest. instilling of fear in different races for political gain.

zr, u've been sucked into their trap and only you can save urself


I support the ilp or any other party that keep PNM out.


Likewise. This is the only way to keep T&T safe.

My father was a police officer he said that a lot of indos did not apply or want to apply for jobs in police service instead preferring more upscale or higher paying jobs. However a lot of this came about due to the PNM marginalizing them due to Eric Williams' perception that they were 'hostile and recalcitrant'. This only served to further push the indos toward other jobs and away from the protective services..

rfari and Habit7 may not want to admit it but what they accuse the PP of today has been comitted by the PNM for decades in the past.

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Re: penal guntas

Postby toyota2nr » September 19th, 2013, 3:27 pm

zoom rader wrote:
rfari wrote:this reminds me of the chagwest by-elections and unc had these pnm looking ppl in ilp jerseys intimidating residents. and then unc accused ilp of bringing black people to take over chagwest. instilling of fear in different races for political gain.

zr, u've been sucked into their trap and only you can save urself


I support the ilp or any other party that keep PNM out.


Likewise. This is the only way to keep T&T safe.

My father was a police officer he said that a lot of indos did not apply or want to apply for jobs in police service instead preferring more upscale or higher paying jobs. However a lot of this came about due to the PNM marginalizing them due to Eric Williams' perception that they were 'hostile and recalcitrant'. This only served to further push the indos toward other jobs and away from the protective services..

rfari and Habit7 may not want to admit it but what they accuse the PP of today has been comitted by the PNM for decades in the past.

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Postby rfari » September 19th, 2013, 3:32 pm

Recaltriant minority referred to those who opposed the forming of the federation. This has been explained over and over yet here today we have ppl repeating it for political mileage

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Postby Habit7 » September 19th, 2013, 5:10 pm

The utterances of these fellas prove that everything they are talking about emanates either from a rumshop or a racist talking head. Otherwise they would not repeat the tired rants of an ignorant person. If it were not so and they actually read sources rather quote old grumpy ppl, they would know that Dr. Williams use of the phrase "recalcitrant minority" was not racist, but a term coined by Jawaharlal Nehru when he was trying to steer his colony to independence but there was a group of fellow colonials that tried to oppose his efforts.

I went to UWI Mona where I had to listen to lecturers would wouldn't hide their animosity against the Trini private sector taking over Jamaica, but would admit that the reason why JA is much worst off than T&T, is not because of resources but because of their leaders from independence, despite the fact that Jamaica was much richer. I would hear Guyanese say the reason why there was not racial strife in T&T as there was in Guyana was because its leader lead for all the ppl, not some. You could sing yourself to sleep with that lullaby that Dr. Williams was terrible, but the alternative of Capildeo doesnt offer any further comfort. Capildeo struggled to run his party far less a country, and though Dr. Williams wasnt perfect, his ideology set a foundation a racially harmonious T&T, despite your best efforts.

I still stand by my statement that some of your views are more deleterious than a gunta. A gunta has a short insignificant lifespan that when he is killed or lives away from any kind of stable home, his ideology leaves not much of an impression. But you insular, ignorant, divisive ideology would seep into the minds of your children and their peers, and run havoc throughout communities which would take generations to repair. All this while our country will struggle to coalesce on any issue whether it be crime, good governance or marriage because there will always be a disdain for "them" and those who look like "them" and where "they" live.

So sad.

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Postby Rx » September 19th, 2013, 9:17 pm

Penal people bad wee

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Postby rfari » September 19th, 2013, 9:44 pm

Habit7 wrote:The utterances of these fellas prove that everything they are talking about emanates either from a rumshop or a racist talking head. Otherwise they would not repeat the tired rants of an ignorant person. If it were not so and they actually read sources rather quote old grumpy ppl, they would know that Dr. Williams use of the phrase "recalcitrant minority" was not racist, but a term coined by Jawaharlal Nehru when he was trying to steer his colony to independence but there was a group of fellow colonials that tried to oppose his efforts.

I went to UWI Mona where I had to listen to lecturers would wouldn't hide their animosity against the Trini private sector taking over Jamaica, but would admit that the reason why JA is much worst off than T&T, is not because of resources but because of their leaders from independence, despite the fact that Jamaica was much richer. I would hear Guyanese say the reason why there was not racial strife in T&T as there was in Guyana was because its leader lead for all the ppl, not some. You could sing yourself to sleep with that lullaby that Dr. Williams was terrible, but the alternative of Capildeo doesnt offer any further comfort. Capildeo struggled to run his party far less a country, and though Dr. Williams wasnt perfect, his ideology set a foundation a racially harmonious T&T, despite your best efforts.

I still stand by my statement that some of your views are more deleterious than a gunta. A gunta has a short insignificant lifespan that when he is killed or lives away from any kind of stable home, his ideology leaves not much of an impression. But you insular, ignorant, divisive ideology would seep into the minds of your children and their peers, and run havoc throughout communities which would take generations to repair. All this while our country will struggle to coalesce on any issue whether it be crime, good governance or marriage because there will always be a disdain for "them" and those who look like "them" and where "they" live.

So sad.

Well said bai habit!

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Postby kevin5211 » September 19th, 2013, 10:18 pm

How this reach from talk bout "dogpatch" in penal to pnm and race. As I said the area is beethamlike and the people behaving the same way. And it is a mixe d community but it is what som might call a slum/ghetto area. Ie a place where downtrodden people live and refuse to lift themselves out of their situation and play big and bad bout any and everyting

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Postby zoom rader » September 20th, 2013, 7:34 am

kevin5211 wrote:How this reach from talk bout "dogpatch" in penal to pnm and race. As I said the area is beethamlike and the people behaving the same way. And it is a mixe d community but it is what som might call a slum/ghetto area. Ie a place where downtrodden people live and refuse to lift themselves out of their situation and play big and bad bout any and everyting

Its called PNMnizasion, part of rock road is like that.
Gone are days when kumar sanu music played in penal and debe, now it's all jungle noise played by maxi injuns.

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Postby rfari » September 20th, 2013, 7:43 am

Nobody wanna listen to kumar sanu dan. Give it a ress nah. Ogoar

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Postby toyota2nr » September 20th, 2013, 8:16 am

rfari wrote:Nobody wanna listen to kumar sanu dan. Give it a ress nah. Ogoar


Actually he is right. You and Habit7 calling people racist for pointing out what the PNM has done. Down by me a whole set of new people just appear. Now you have to lock your car. You can't even stop by the shop to get something because they just loitering there any time of the day.

I have said here before when I was living in Petit Valley I used to play music while driving home. When I playing bandit music nobody saying anything but as soon as I play a little Indian music people slowing down and watching me hard. Man pull up next to me and steups.

PNM has been practicing institutionalized racism for decades. Open your eyes.
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Postby rfari » September 20th, 2013, 8:21 am

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rfari wrote:Nobody wanna listen to kumar sanu dan. Give it a ress nah. Ogoar


Actually he is right. You and Habit7 calling people racist for pointing out what the PNM has done. Down by me a whole set of new people just appear. Now you have to lock your car. You can't even stop by the shop to get something because they just loitering there any time of the day.

I have said here before when I was living in Petit Valley I used to play music while driving home. When I playing bandit music nobody saying anything but as soon as I play a little Indian music people slowing down and watching me hard. Man pull up next to me and steups.

PNM has been practicing institutionalized racism for decades. Open your eyes.

Maybe cus u look like an imps? Whre ollur does be meeting these kinda ppl?

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Postby zoom rader » September 20th, 2013, 8:23 am

^^^ You lie, you have statistics to back you claim, you rfari gonna ask you for this

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Postby eliteauto » September 20th, 2013, 8:33 am

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Postby Ted_v2 » September 20th, 2013, 8:37 am

toyota2nr wrote:
rfari wrote:Nobody wanna listen to kumar sanu dan. Give it a ress nah. Ogoar


Actually he is right. You and Habit7 calling people racist for pointing out what the PNM has done. Down by me a whole set of new people just appear. Now you have to lock your car. You can't even stop by the shop to get something because they just loitering there any time of the day.

I have said here before when I was living in Petit Valley I used to play music while driving home. When I playing bandit music nobody saying anything but as soon as I play a little Indian music people slowing down and watching me hard. Man pull up next to me and steups.

PNM has been practicing institutionalized racism for decades. Open your eyes.


i actually had the same experience with playing music, exact thing with cant even stop by a palour, cant even go into certain streets after certain hours because its filled by unsavory characters

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Postby rfari » September 20th, 2013, 8:39 am

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toyota2nr wrote:
rfari wrote:Nobody wanna listen to kumar sanu dan. Give it a ress nah. Ogoar


Actually he is right. You and Habit7 calling people racist for pointing out what the PNM has done. Down by me a whole set of new people just appear. Now you have to lock your car. You can't even stop by the shop to get something because they just loitering there any time of the day.

I have said here before when I was living in Petit Valley I used to play music while driving home. When I playing bandit music nobody saying anything but as soon as I play a little Indian music people slowing down and watching me hard. Man pull up next to me and steups.

PNM has been practicing institutionalized racism for decades. Open your eyes.


i actually had the same experience with playing music, exact thing with cant even stop by a palour, cant even go into certain streets after certain hours because its filled by unsavory characters

Sb, pnm to blame for that?

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Re: penal guntas

Postby Ted_v2 » September 20th, 2013, 8:44 am

boy i wanna say yes.
what i understand is that they bring in these pnm people into the area to help them win elections for years to come. They clearly dont have any family in the area yet they suddenly get apartments and places to live
for the past 5 years my area slowly starting to get "guntas"
i mean people walking up and down the road all hours of the days, clearly not employed and at night sitting on the block, from what i gather selling drugs as i saw a few needles there when i used to walk out the road to get my transport to school.

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Postby rfari » September 20th, 2013, 8:47 am

sound boy 64 wrote:boy i wanna say yes.
what i understand is that they bring in these pnm people into the area to help them win elections for years to come. They clearly dont have any family in the area yet they suddenly get apartments and places to live
for the past 5 years my area slowly starting to get "guntas"
i mean people walking up and down the road all hours of the days, clearly not employed and at night sitting on the block, from what i gather selling drugs as i saw a few needles there when i used to walk out the road to get my transport to school.

Hmmm. Seems like a fella infestation. Any increase in theft, burgulary, intimidation or other unsavory deeds/behaviour?
Edit: fella = n*gg*. Autocorrect immc

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Postby Ted_v2 » September 20th, 2013, 8:52 am

theft - basic fruits and minor items, stolen at night in the area
burglary -No
intimidation- yes
unsavory behavior -well drug needles on the street and loiters palancing on the street all hours of the day.

but WWGD?

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Postby rfari » September 20th, 2013, 8:55 am

sound boy 64 wrote:theft - basic fruits and minor items, stolen at night in the area
burglary -No
intimidation- yes
unsavory behavior -well drug needles on the street and loiters palancing on the street all hours of the day.

but WWGD?

Hmm. Interesting. So i'm assuming that police is aware of the situation right? U mentioned an incident with your music. Give us a cool story on how it happened nah. Just to aware the rest of us

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Re: penal guntas

Postby Ted_v2 » September 20th, 2013, 9:01 am

police dont do anything, maybe cant?

cool story time, passing thru the village Diwali night, went to pickup a bredren to make a pump thru the area. The car was playing some indian music, cant recall the song but its indian. Two persons walked passed the car and said olllor Indo Trini again and one hit the fender with his hand. Me eh beatup

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Re: penal guntas

Postby rfari » September 20th, 2013, 9:02 am

sound boy 64 wrote:police dont do anything, maybe cant?

cool story time, passing thru the village Diwali night, went to pickup a bredren to make a pump thru the area. The car was playing some indian music, cant recall the song but its indian. Two persons walked passed the car and said olllor Indo Trini again and one hit the fender with his hand. Me eh beatup

Oho. They could have heard it from outside the car? It was loud orwha? And did they say indo trini or people?

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Re: penal guntas

Postby Ted_v2 » September 20th, 2013, 9:05 am

keeewwwlieeeee was said.chuna autocorrect :| It wasnt loud, but they could of heard it from outside the car, as they were passing like 3 ft away

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Re: penal guntas

Postby Trini Hookah » September 20th, 2013, 9:09 am

sound boy 64 wrote:boy i wanna say yes.
what i understand is that they bring in these pnm people into the area to help them win elections for years to come. They clearly dont have any family in the area yet they suddenly get apartments and places to live
for the past 5 years my area slowly starting to get "guntas"
i mean people walking up and down the road all hours of the days, clearly not employed and at night sitting on the block, from what i gather selling drugs as i saw a few needles there when i used to walk out the road to get my transport to school.

What if they're just looking out for each other and giving each other tetanus shots?

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