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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby toyota2nr » April 29th, 2013, 7:50 am

rfari wrote:And the thing is that ppl eh like that. Cus issa set ah dunceyhead ppl that benefiting. Personally meem mind u link ur ppl but make sure dey competent nah. Ogoar. Is like the most dotish getting hired and promoted. Neutral trinibagonians seeing that and cyar wait for it to stop.
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Right and I'm sure I could agree in some instances but this shameless promotion of Keith Rowley and the PNM is unnecessary. The man is very racial and carries a lot of political baggage. To top it off his party has nothing new to offer the country. What sense it make putting people like that.

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby Habit7 » April 29th, 2013, 7:56 am

Wow, Keith Rowley "very racial", for shame. Give me some examples so I too can join in the pouring of scorn.

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby toyota2nr » April 29th, 2013, 7:58 am

^^^ Steups I posted many examples already in revisits posts.

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby toyota2nr » April 29th, 2013, 7:58 am

Find out about the 'well doh eat roti' comment he made.

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby rfari » April 29th, 2013, 8:01 am

toyota2nr wrote:
rfari wrote:And the thing is that ppl eh like that. Cus issa set ah dunceyhead ppl that benefiting. Personally meem mind u link ur ppl but make sure dey competent nah. Ogoar. Is like the most dotish getting hired and promoted. Neutral trinibagonians seeing that and cyar wait for it to stop.
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Right and I'm sure I could agree in some instances but this shameless promotion of Keith Rowley and the PNM is unnecessary. The man is very racial and carries a lot of political baggage. To top it off his party has nothing new to offer the country. What sense it make putting people like that.

So because one do it its ok for another party to do it? Cyar work so dan. Rowley buss manning file. He issa man of integrity

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby Habit7 » April 29th, 2013, 8:06 am

Oh no, I probably once said "well doh eat roti" :shock: I can't remember what context but could I be racist?




P.S If you are suggesting I peruse through all your postings to find something you define as "very", you might think that your opinions are more important than they actually are.

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby rfari » April 29th, 2013, 8:12 am

toyota2nr wrote:Find out about the 'well doh eat roti' comment he made.

You know how we does do things here. Post valid proof that the comment was made

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby toyota2nr » April 29th, 2013, 8:23 am

Habit7 wrote:Oh no, I probably once said "well doh eat roti" :shock: I can't remember what context but could I be racist?




P.S If you are suggesting I peruse through all your postings to find something you define as "very", you might think that your opinions are more important than they actually are.


Oh ho so is context now? So anybody could make a statement an well I mean it in a different context. Ha ha you gettin desperate now to promote the cult.

During the first Manning administration when the price of flour went up the former Chaguanas MP Hulsie Bhaggan complained in parliament and Rowley got up an said if you don't like the price then allyuh should stop eating roti. If you see nothing wrong with that then I don't know what else to say.

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby Habit7 » April 29th, 2013, 8:23 am

rfari wrote:
toyota2nr wrote:Find out about the 'well doh eat roti' comment he made.
You know how we does do things here. Post valid proof that the comment was made

Yeah, otherwise you would have ppl posting madness like a govt senator who called for the extermination of all Muslims. Incredulous!

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby toyota2nr » April 29th, 2013, 8:25 am

^^ an he was wrong for that. I still call for his removal.

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby Habit7 » April 29th, 2013, 8:28 am

toyota2nr wrote:During the first Manning administration when the price of flour went up the former Chaguanas MP Hulsie Bhaggan complained in parliament and Rowley got up an said if you don't like the price then allyuh should stop eating roti. If you see nothing wrong with that then I don't know what else to say.

Come meh boy, give us a newpaper article, hansard, video, something to work with. Do some hard work this morning nah.


BTW I hope that is not what you consider "very racist"

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby toyota2nr » April 29th, 2013, 8:30 am

So you're saying that was ok? Nah man I don't believe you.

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Postby Habit7 » April 29th, 2013, 8:33 am

In other news

US tries new aerial tools in Caribbean drug fight
Monday, April 29, 2013

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ABOARD THE HIGHSPEED VESSEL SWIFT (AP) — Drug smugglers who race across the Caribbean in speedboats will typically jettison their cargo when spotted by surveillance aircraft, hoping any chance of prosecuting them will vanish with the drugs sinking to the bottom of the sea.
That may be a less winning tactic in the future. The US Navy last Friday began testing two new aerial tools, borrowed from the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq, that officials say will make it easier to detect, track and videotape drug smugglers in action.

KEY WEST, Florida — A balloon-like craft known as an aerostat is shown attached to the back of the US Navy high-speed vessel Swift docked in Key West on Friday, April 26, 2013. The US Navy on Friday began testing two new aerial tools, borrowed from the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq, that officials say will make it easier to detect, track and videotape drug smugglers in action.
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One of the devices on display aboard the high-speed vessel Swift is a large, white balloon-like craft known as an aerostat, which is tethered up to 2,000 feet (600 metres) above the ship’s stern. The other tool on board for tests in the Florida Straits is a type of drone that can be launched by hand from the deck.

Together, they expand the ability of Navy and Coast Guard personnel to see what’s beyond their horizon, according to officials from both military branches and the contractors hoping to sell the devices to the US Government.

The devices should allow authorities to detect and monitor suspected drug shipments from afar for longer sustained periods, giving them a better chance of stopping the smugglers. They also should allow them to make continuous videotapes that can be used in prosecutions.

“Being able to see them and watch what they are doing even before we get there is going to give us an edge,” said Chief Chris Sinclair, assistant officer in charge of a law enforcement detachment on board the Swift, a private vessel leased to the Navy that is about to begin a monthlong deployment to the southwestern Caribbean, tracking the busy smuggling routes off Colombia and Honduras.
Crews practised launching and operating both systems before a small contingent of news media on board the Swift, managing to bring back video of vessels participating in a mock surveillance mission as well as radar and video images of the fishing charters and sailboats that dot the choppy seas separating Cuba from the US mainland.

The drone, officially a Puma All Environment unmanned aircraft system from Aerovironment Inc of Simi Valley, California, splashed into the water on one landing and had to be retrieved. On the second round, it clacked noisily but intact on the shifting deck of the 321-foot ship. Rear Admiral Sinclair Harris, commander of the Navy’s 4th Fleet, said the devices are necessary at a time when the service is making a transition to smaller, faster ships amid budget cuts.

The aerostat, formally the Aerostar TIF-25K and made by a division of Raven Industries Inc of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, is filled with helium. It’s an old technology, models of which have been used for decades, but it’s packed with cameras and sensors that expand the ship’s radar capability from about five miles (eight kilometres) to about 50 miles. That can help teams in an on-board control centre to identify larger ships, which now would appear as just dots on the horizon, from as far as 15 miles (25 kilometres) away.
The Puma, meanwhile, can be sent out to inspect a vessel flagged by the larger aerostat and give a “God’s eye view” of what’s happening on board, a job usually handled by a plane or helicopter, said Craig Benson, director of business development for the company.
Both the aerostat and the drone have been used widely by the US Government for overseas actions, but Harris and others aboard the Swift said neither has been used before by the Navy to conduct counter-drug operations.

Unmanned aerial devices, however, are not new to the drug fight. US Customs and Border Protection operates 10 Predator drones, including two based in Cape Canaveral, Florida, that patrol a wide swathe of the Caribbean through The Bahamas and down to south of Puerto Rico. It deployed one to the Dominican Republic last year for six weeks and has considered using one in Honduras. The others are used along the northern and southern borders of the United States.

The US military has long been deeply involved in counter-drug operations in the Southern Hemisphere, coordinated by a multi-agency task force based in Key West, Florida. Navy ships and Air Force jets use their radar to track and run down smugglers, though for legal reasons the actual arrests are carried out by the Coast Guard, civilian agencies or officials from other countries.
In March, the military said it would reduce patrols and sorties in Latin America and the Caribbean because of the automatic spending cuts imposed by Congress, another argument for increased use of aerial surveillance devices like the aerostat and drone, officials said.

Representatives on the Swift from both contractors declined to say what their systems cost. But they said each can be run at a fraction of the cost of the fixed-wing planes or helicopters usually dispatched to check out suspected smugglers.

Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/US- ... z2Rr4TtW6C

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby rfari » April 29th, 2013, 8:43 am

toyota2nr wrote:So you're saying that was ok? Nah man I don't believe you.

Bot because sat does repeat it over and over means its true eh meh boy. He theefin relk ppl head trust me. Post the proof ma yute

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Postby ~Vēġó~ » April 29th, 2013, 8:53 am

I really don't like the manner in which mr. rowlee speaks.....in terms of the tone...it can come across as one that is filled with hate, scorn, distaste, condescension .....whilst his content may be good, his manner of putting it out does nothing to sway me towards him....

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Postby rfari » April 29th, 2013, 9:02 am

~Vēġó~ wrote:I really don't like the manner in which mr. rowlee speaks.....in terms of the tone...it can come across as one that is filled with hate, scorn, distaste, condescension .....whilst his content may be good, his manner of putting it out does nothing to sway me towards him....

ahh!. many hold this view. and you are right. he doesn't have a nice way of saying things. but he speaks his mind and people dont like that. i had this discussion with some old school mates as to what is wrong with rowley. it started that he was racist and when that was disproved, it moved to that he was seen as antagonistic and hostile. but the comparison that i drew was that basdeo panday had a very similar style. why wasn't he called hostile and abusive. how about in the present parliament? anil robert possibly beats back rowley when it comes to forceful words. so why was rowley specifically pointed out?

at the end of the discussion it summed up to people having issue with his skin tone. believe it or not. he was seen as a gang leader type person. the person that robs and kidnaps and steals. that was all. the guy is unbelievably black for want of better words

edit: vega, doh think that im saying you're racist or anything or the sorts eh. that feeling is across the board and believe have their reasons for that feel

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Postby rfari » April 29th, 2013, 9:07 am

eh ollur hold dat


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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby zoom rader » April 29th, 2013, 9:07 am

99% of all Non trini Afros see Rowley and the PNM as racist. Thats a fact, Rowley has done nothing to improve the image of the PNM from their racist past. In the minds of the non afros the Calcutta statement is the final straw.
As i said before, Rowley is not seen as leader , hes seen as Hostile, arrogant and very much racist. These qualities that he has will not attract the masses to vote for him. When Rowley together with hinds debates in parliament they carry on as if they want to physically fight and this does not look good cause the public is watching.
Only the lower gunta like minority may vote for these qualities , in their eyes they see it as being strong.

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Postby Habit7 » April 29th, 2013, 9:08 am

T&T has been none the better with smiling faces and charming personalities in govt.

zoom rader wrote:99% of all Non trini Afros see Rowley and the PNM as racist.

Selwyn Ryan and Market Facts & Opinions have nothing on you boy! Geedem facts!
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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby zoom rader » April 29th, 2013, 9:11 am

Habit7 wrote:T&T has been none the better with smiling faces and charming personalities in govt.

You are correct, Imber, hunt, and guy smiley

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Postby rfari » April 29th, 2013, 9:12 am

zoom rader wrote:99% of all Non trini Afros see Rowley and the PNM as racist. Thats a fact, Rowley has done nothing to improve the image of the PNM from their racist past. In the minds of the non afros the Calcutta statement is the final straw.
As i said before, Rowley is not seen as leader , hes seen as Hostile, arrogant and very much racist. These qualities that he has will not attract the masses to vote for him. When Rowley together with hinds debates in parliament they carry on as if they want to physically fight and this does not look good cause the public is watching.
Only the lower gunta like minority may vote for these qualities , in their eyes they see it as being strong.

Same exact thing i said before!!!! Lol. U see a black man being passionate about something and u automatically think that he is racial. If u feel insecure by their passion then u hadda check urself brah

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Postby zoom rader » April 29th, 2013, 9:16 am

rfari wrote:
zoom rader wrote:99% of all Non trini Afros see Rowley and the PNM as racist. Thats a fact, Rowley has done nothing to improve the image of the PNM from their racist past. In the minds of the non afros the Calcutta statement is the final straw.
As i said before, Rowley is not seen as leader , hes seen as Hostile, arrogant and very much racist. These qualities that he has will not attract the masses to vote for him. When Rowley together with hinds debates in parliament they carry on as if they want to physically fight and this does not look good cause the public is watching.
Only the lower gunta like minority may vote for these qualities , in their eyes they see it as being strong.

Same exact thing i said before!!!! Lol. U see a black man being passionate about something and u automatically think that he is racial. If u feel insecure by their passion then u hadda check urself brah

Obama is passionate but does he come across as if wants to fights and racist.

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Postby ~Vēġó~ » April 29th, 2013, 9:19 am

rfari, yes the others you stated do seem to exude more force as they verbalise....but the tone within their utterances is different...it comes out maybe as hostile but not sounding heavy with hate....again it's how it sounds in terms of the tone....not necessarily the force.

dunno if that makes sense?

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Postby Habit7 » April 29th, 2013, 9:20 am

Obama is very subdued and half white, bad example, try again

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Postby rfari » April 29th, 2013, 9:22 am

zoom rader wrote:
rfari wrote:
zoom rader wrote:99% of all Non trini Afros see Rowley and the PNM as racist. Thats a fact, Rowley has done nothing to improve the image of the PNM from their racist past. In the minds of the non afros the Calcutta statement is the final straw.
As i said before, Rowley is not seen as leader , hes seen as Hostile, arrogant and very much racist. These qualities that he has will not attract the masses to vote for him. When Rowley together with hinds debates in parliament they carry on as if they want to physically fight and this does not look good cause the public is watching.
Only the lower gunta like minority may vote for these qualities , in their eyes they see it as being strong.

Same exact thing i said before!!!! Lol. U see a black man being passionate about something and u automatically think that he is racial. If u feel insecure by their passion then u hadda check urself brah

Obama is passionate but does he come across as if wants to fights and racist.

you assuming racism based on a person's articulate? that, meh friend, is the highest level of discrimination based on race. it only makes you wonder what happens in the work world when people that just happen to have rowley's features are automatically assumed to be racist. i know u was a bigot eh zoom and i was willing to give u the benefit of the doubt on the racism but you show urself there man

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby rfari » April 29th, 2013, 9:27 am

~Vēġó~ wrote:rfari, yes the others you stated do seem to exude more force as they verbalise....but the tone within their utterances is different...it comes out maybe as hostile but not sounding heavy with hate....again it's how it sounds in terms of the tone....not necessarily the force.

dunno if that makes sense?

i understand. its almost like he is spitting venom. and the thing is when he is subdued and having a normal conversation that he isnt passionate about, he has this hoarse voice that sometimes i can't understand his words. almost like the voice of a heavy smoker. i dunno what happening there with him but it gives people the wrong perception of him

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby zoom rader » April 29th, 2013, 9:28 am

Habit7 wrote:Obama is very subdued and half white, bad example, try again


In the eyes of Americans obama is seen as black.
Look at all the other Caribbean afros leaders (except Guyana) , do they come across as Hostile ?
Rowley has done nothing to improve his image, all the smile they told him to smile is not helping him. As i said 99% of non afros will not vote for him, go do a servery and ask different non afros if they will give rowley a vote.

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby john_smith8076 » April 29th, 2013, 9:30 am

Unless a government gonna come and making getting homes and other things more attainable I ain't voting I'm overqualified for the job I do and I can pay a rent of 2000 but ttmf witll only get a mortgage to pay 1350 a month what a joke

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Postby rfari » April 29th, 2013, 9:31 am

zoom zader. stop stop. you starting to post without thinking and ur spelling starting to deteriorate. as i tell you dan, u hadda beat that calcutta ship statement to a frazzle to sound convincing that the man is a racist

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Re: Would we have been better off with PNM?

Postby Habit7 » April 29th, 2013, 9:35 am

zoom rader wrote:Look at all the other Caribbean afros leaders (except Guyana) , do they come across as Hostile ?
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