Apple wins Billion dollar lawsuit vs Samsung

[sharkman121]

I don't have a problem with apple. Actually my MacBook pro is amazing and I don't think I would ever go back to a windows laptop after having that apple laptop experience. Thing is when it comes to phone, Samsung has the throne.

same thoughts from me too

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[Strauss]

Well that is something that apple fanboys need to realize. Apple did great when they came out with the iPhone 1 and 2 because back then it was the best thing out, but competition got stiffer and they stayed relying on fan boys and fabricated commercials for sales, which worked, but still doesn't change the fact that the iPhone has little progress with every model they release and have fallen behind.

Android has caught up in many regards to iOS, surpassed it in some, behind in a few.

And Android has made lots of advancements because... well it was so far behind. The same progress won't be seen with the iPhone because "version 1" was pretty decent compared to a first gen Android phone.

The guy coming from 25th in class to 9th will get a prize for "most improved".
What does the guy going from 9th to 6th get?

[casper]

^^^what???

[Rory Phoulorie]

^^^what???

I am not taking sides here, but what I think Strauss is saying is that the quality level at which the iPhone started out at was much higher than the quality level of the Android based machines when they first came out.

Therefore, when you look at how far the Android based phones have progressed to get to the level where they are today, it appears that they progressed more than what Apple has achieved from the iPhone to the iPhone 4S. This does not mean that the current generation Android based phones are now better than the iPhone 4S and vice versa (cause we all know the Nokia Lumia 920 will blow them all out of the water).

[Strauss]

^^^what???

I am not taking sides here, but what I think Strauss is saying is that the quality level at which the iPhone started out at was much higher than the quality level of the Android based machines when they first came out.

Therefore, when you look at how far the Android based phones have progressed to get to the level where they are today, it appears that they progressed more than what Apple has achieved from the iPhone to the iPhone 4S. This does not mean that the current generation Android based phones are now better than the iPhone 4S and vice versa (cause we all know the Nokia Lumia 920 will blow them all out of the water).

That's it.

And the Windows 8 phones are starting (ignoring Win7) on equal footing with everyone else. So they might appear to progress less in time to come.

[Stephon.]

Nah I think that is an excuse because the sii is an amazing phone and where people thought that improvement would minimal, the siii came out and gave us a whole new phone experience with features that no one even thought of. We would have to wait and see what apple comes up with to compete with this but I can assure you that they would fall short as they normally do.

Lets look at tablets too. The galaxy tab 2 is comparable to the ipad 2/3. Now look at the huge improvement with the note 10.1 with their spen with gestures and controls on he pen that translate to the pad, they even brought multitasking to a new level by having split screens on the screen itself. What is he ipad 3 compared to the ipad2??? A brighter screen and more ram with a camera.

[Stephon.]

No reply. I win

[casper]

debates gettin interesting...i was about to agree with rory and strauss till i saw stephons post...carry on

[ZeroOne]

nah stephon still on top.......strauss still trying though.


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-i9300

[casper]

nah stephon still on top.......strauss still trying though.


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-i9300

^^^^

[Rooki3]

Apple got boring fast.

which is why they are the most valuable company in the world

real sour grapes

That's not a legit argument. Apple isn't the most valuable company in the world because of how "amazing" their phones are. They're valuable because they have a strong fan base that needs to have the newest apple product when its out and they advertisement of basic upgrades to their new products get their Hipster fans wet for some reason.

This reminds me of the time when people said that GaGa was crap and then when I said that she is the most relevant and successful artiste around you all made noise saying "success doesn't mean she good"

The double standard.

have to agree with u here 1000%

[Rooki3]

jus read thru this entire thread agin, things real bad when stephon schooling big hard back men

well done, fight the good fight

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ of course the products are good - that's why there are so many fans

[achillies]

Well that is something that apple fanboys need to realize. Apple did great when they came out with the iPhone 1 and 2 because back then it was the best thing out, but competition got stiffer and they stayed relying on fan boys and fabricated commercials for sales, which worked, but still doesn't change the fact that the iPhone has little progress with every model they release and have fallen behind.

Android has caught up in many regards to iOS, surpassed it in some, behind in a few.

And Android has made lots of advancements because... well it was so far behind. The same progress won't be seen with the iPhone because "version 1" was pretty decent compared to a first gen Android phone.

The guy coming from 25th in class to 9th will get a prize for "most improved".
What does the guy going from 9th to 6th get?

Are you talking about the same device that didn't have copy and paste and mms, or did I miss something, iOS has no intents, therefore to be able to do something as simple as share, it has to be built into the core OS, which users have to wait a year for, the only advantage iOS had was smoothness and looks and WAS a better thought out OS, and that is all but eroded completely.

Apple users are satisfied with a device that is limited and locked down in many many ways, an the only time they see a feature as needed is when the people at Apple tell them "okay, you guys can have this feature now" all the while, other mobile OSes have had the feature.

I have sat and watch the thread go from the Topic being about the lawsuit to being an anti-Apple thread, no probs, most of the hate recently, Apple has brought on themselves, but for me and many others, iOS was never good enough, and to this day, it still isn't, so it is pure illusion that Apple only has to make incremental changes to continue the experience, the fact of the matter is, the entire OS would have to be re-thought and re-written to be as powerful as the other mobile OSes out there, and WHEN that is done, you would hear the praises of the Apple fans that this was the plan all the time.

Have you ever heard any Apple pundit speak about how lacking iOS is, ever?

That's because they can't see further than what Apple allows them to see, but as soon as Apple raises the curtain, to allow them to see just a little bit further, they all speak as if this was part of the plan all along, SMH, I laugh

MMS wasn't needed before they got it, copy and paste wasn't needed before they got it, a revamped notification system wasn't needed before they got it, somewhat limited multi-tasking wasn't needed before they got it, a larger screen wasn't needed before they got it, and in the end, a full OS re-write to allow intents among other things (File Manager ) will not be needed, until they get it.

[maj. tom]

Sooner or later Anonymous gonna hit Apple hard in retribution.

[achillies]

Great article from over at Phandroid

Tim Cook said: This is unlike anything we or anyone else in our industry has made before

iPhone 5 vs Android: The Patent Troll Presentation

Basically it's about a company that is filing lawsuits for things like making similarly shaped phones and having slide-to-unlock features, while they implement features into their own OS that has been existing in other mobile OSes for months


Not to mention the false picture that they paint of EVERYTHING

[Sky]

[casper]

Apple can now face a lawsuit by Samsung for using 4G LTE on the new iPhone 5 Lolz...how interesting

[casper]

Strauss is a white man with glasses?

[fraggle]

A fisherman will never say his fish is stale, what does he expect apple is a business not a bible club........but i do agree that the iphone 5 looks like the iphone everything else, now watch them sell them by the millions.

[Daran]

The truth is the Apple Iphone5 is a bit underwhelming, not because of the hardware mind you.....which is top of the line as usual.......but because of the lack of innovative IOS6 updates.

I'm personally disappointed with today's revelations despite my Iphone 4s being my preferred phone in my collection (I have an S2, S3, BB Bold 9900 and a Iphone 4s......the S2 & 9900 are for sale btw, PM if interested).

But that doesn't stop me from appreciating my S2 and S3....they are both VERY impressive phones and better in many ways over my 4s. However over time I've grown used to the iOS interface and find it more intuitive in many ways over Android....but that comes down to personal preference really.....which lends credence to my main point.

If I a stout Apple fan can honestly appreciate and prefer Android for many things, then Apple is trouble with the Iphone 5.....the game is a lot closer now than before.....and Apple did not come out guns blazing this round as they should.

In the background, many don't know it, but RIM is working closely with Google on porting BIS and BES platforms to Android.... BBM on Android would be the end game for Apple's dominance in many countries (Not US though).

In the next two years I foresee a market place split in the following way.

Apple - 20 to 30% (Not a huge drop in market share, but a drop nevertheless)
Android - 50 to 60%
Win8M - 10% (could be more, but time will tell)
RIM - <5% (if still surviving)

[achillies]

The Woz weighs in on Apple-Samsung patent war: “I hate it”’

Samsung, which uses Google’s Android mobile operating system and offers several different models, has emerged as Apple’s biggest competitor in smartphones. Samsung, also one of Apple’s biggest suppliers of components, accounted for 19.1 percent of global smartphone shipments last year, compared with Apple’s 18.8 percent, according to Bloomberg Industries data.
Samsung said this month it has sold 20 million Galaxy S IIIs.
The two companies also are battling in court, with Apple being awarded more than $1 billion last month by a California jury that said Samsung copied the iPhone’s design. Samsung said it will appeal.
“I hate it,” Wozniak said when asked about the patent fights between Apple and Samsung. “I don’t think the decision of California will hold. And I don’t agree with it -- very small things I don’t really call that innovative.
“I wish everybody would just agree to exchange all the patents and everybody can build the best forms they want to use everybody’s technologies.”
--Bonnie Cao in Shanghai with assistance from Adam Satariano in San Francisco. Editors: Anand Krishnamoorthy, Michael Tighe.

Now lets see the so called Apple pundits try to spin Wozniak's words, especially the part where he says "very small things I don’t really call that innovative" are these not the same things that many say Apple spent millions on R+D on and Samsung stole, the Apple pundits should know and respect Wozniack's remarks, but will they admit to the BS tactic that Apple is using or be one of those people as shown by Jimmy Kimmel.

Oh and ther is more to the article about the iPhone 5, check it here: Bloomberg

[Cid]

[Stephon.]

Apple gonna sue sada roti now

[Greypatch]

LMAO roti powaa

[Damien]

all s3 sold out in bmobile and digicel

[pimptacular]

all s3 sold out in bmobile and digicel

all iphone5 pre-orders have been sold out and your on a 2-3 week wait period

[kurpal_v2]

all s3 sold out in bmobile and digicel

They had like what 500 each?

[pimptacular]

all s3 sold out in bmobile and digicel

They had like what 500 each?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 83882.html

As of Friday afternoon, CNET reports Verizon has pushed delivery dates back to September 28, while AT&T's website states iPhone 5 orders will be shipped in 14 to 21 business days.

If you want that shiny new iPhone 5 as soon as possible, then grab your folding chair and an umbrella, because you may have to wait in a long line outside the Apple Store.

According to Business Insider, about one hour after the iPhone 5 pre-orders were made available to the public (at 12:01 a.m. PT on September 14), the entire stock was sold out. Shipping estimates on the company's site now currently say it will take at least two weeks to deliver phones in the U.S., U.K., Canada, Australia, and Germany.

While some lucky Apple enthusiasts quickly ordered their devices, this morning's purchasing process had a few glitches. CNN reports that heavy traffic on Apple's website led to the damning "We'll be back" sign, which inevitably frustrated the sleepy internet and Twittersphere.

Some smartphone users found a loophole and were able to bypass Apple's overwhelmed website and place orders via the Apple Store's iOS app. According to CNET, "buying options went live immediately after midnight" via the app.

MacRumors suggests that customers "may still be able to receive launch-day delivery" (September 21) by ordering though AT&T, Verizon, or Sprint. But the Apple-obsessed site also gives one final caveat to expecting iPhone 5 owners: the 9/21 delivery date from listed on the carriers' sites may not "immediately reflect available stock."

Yikes.


So back to square one: If you weren't one of the lucky few who could access the Apple Store last night, and you're concerned cellphone carriers won't make good on the promised release date, then prepare to wait a few weeks or camp in front of an Apple Store.

Never have pre-orders for a new iPhone sold out within one hour. TechCruch notes that the iPhone 4 pre-orders sold out in 20 hours, while the iPhone 4S pre-orders sold out in 22 hours, meaning the iPhone 5 sold out a whopping 20x faster than its predecessors.

[kurpal_v2]

all s3 sold out in bmobile and digicel

They had like what 500 each?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 83882.html

As of Friday afternoon, CNET reports Verizon has pushed delivery dates back to September 28, while AT&T's website states iPhone 5 orders will be shipped in 14 to 21 business days.

If you want that shiny new iPhone 5 as soon as possible, then grab your folding chair and an umbrella, because you may have to wait in a long line outside the Apple Store.

According to Business Insider, about one hour after the iPhone 5 pre-orders were made available to the public (at 12:01 a.m. PT on September 14), the entire stock was sold out. Shipping estimates on the company's site now currently say it will take at least two weeks to deliver phones in the U.S., U.K., Canada, Australia, and Germany.

While some lucky Apple enthusiasts quickly ordered their devices, this morning's purchasing process had a few glitches. CNN reports that heavy traffic on Apple's website led to the damning "We'll be back" sign, which inevitably frustrated the sleepy internet and Twittersphere.

Some smartphone users found a loophole and were able to bypass Apple's overwhelmed website and place orders via the Apple Store's iOS app. According to CNET, "buying options went live immediately after midnight" via the app.

MacRumors suggests that customers "may still be able to receive launch-day delivery" (September 21) by ordering though AT&T, Verizon, or Sprint. But the Apple-obsessed site also gives one final caveat to expecting iPhone 5 owners: the 9/21 delivery date from listed on the carriers' sites may not "immediately reflect available stock."

Yikes.


So back to square one: If you weren't one of the lucky few who could access the Apple Store last night, and you're concerned cellphone carriers won't make good on the promised release date, then prepare to wait a few weeks or camp in front of an Apple Store.

Never have pre-orders for a new iPhone sold out within one hour. TechCruch notes that the iPhone 4 pre-orders sold out in 20 hours, while the iPhone 4S pre-orders sold out in 22 hours, meaning the iPhone 5 sold out a whopping 20x faster than its predecessors.

csb

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