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shake d livin wake d dead wrote:What did we learn from yesterday's events? This is how life will be in Trinidad. Learn to live with it! Save up and buy a generator, inverter and a canister to store at least $200 worth in diesel. Pretty sure this will happen again as I believe this was well planned. Carry on folks, happy hunting!
So you think there would be someone out there calculating the losses from the outage even while places continue to be out of power. And you think that person will have that figure within hours of the event....in this country. You really are quite dense.aaron17 wrote:How much money (estimated)was lost during this outage?
Aaron the businessmen said they lost millions.aaron17 wrote:How much money (estimated)was lost during this outage?
sMASH wrote:hover11 wrote:So basically there is nothing stopping this from happening again?Toyopet wrote:An important point to note is that electricity isn't produced and stored like say water. Electricity required is generated at that instant.
So as you explained, when one producer goes down and the demand remains the same, the other plants pick up that slack and that could put serious strain on the infrastructure.
Practical Engineering on YouTube posted an excellent video breaking down the 2003 US blackout.zoom rader wrote:No Pugpugboy wrote:so countries with many sources of power eg europe with many many wind farms all over the place, they suffer these same issues ?
Power generation is different.
In this case, the Penal plant took down the rest of the plants. All plants are on the grid. When a plant does down, the other plants try to pump out the Megawatts to make up for the loss. In this case, the load was too demanding and thus a trip to protect the generators. load demand was too high and not enough redundancy to make up for it. All this happens in the blink of an eye.
This happens from time to time and its not new. Its a balancing act. Power demand controllers are use but even those fail.
Within each plant there are a number of generators and all those that are put online need to maintain the same frequency. You can't have frequency not matching, it will be a trip if out of phase.
but why the plants trip out? should it not just be the bus couplers, disconnecting the plants from the grid?
for instance: the sensors detect variable frequency, then trips open the couplers to the grid.
the only way the plants should trip out is if the couplers could not de couple in time, so the next safety measure is to trip off of the generators..
if the couplers cant disconnect in time, then it seems they have some more problems, that not being addressed. sooo, is; once every ting good, every ting good, and once tings get hay wire, they will trip off.
annnd what cause the delays to resume output?
me, i feel the couplers did bun out, thus causing the generators to fail safe, and when time to restart, they had to replace the couplers first.
pugboy wrote:i did that from the last big outage years ago
we got back current a day later than most placesshake d livin wake d dead wrote:What did we learn from yesterday's events? This is how life will be in Trinidad. Learn to live with it! Save up and buy a generator, inverter and a canister to store at least $200 worth in diesel. Pretty sure this will happen again as I believe this was well planned. Carry on folks, happy hunting!
hover11 wrote:Fact of the matter is this was industrial action, remember the days when t&tec workers would come on news and say get your candles and lanterns ready , yea this time there is no warning. Spoke to a worker there this morning and trust and believe they fed up of their 2013 salary.
wing wrote:So you think there would be someone out there calculating the losses from the outage even while places continue to be out of power. And you think that person will have that figure within hours of the event....in this country. You really are quite dense.aaron17 wrote:How much money (estimated)was lost during this outage?
Ok Joe you working t&tec sorry, a company will put out whatever Memo and reason to appease the public but carry on, t&tec workers cannot explicitly state that they are strikingj.o.e wrote:hover11 wrote:Fact of the matter is this was industrial action, remember the days when t&tec workers would come on news and say get your candles and lanterns ready , yea this time there is no warning. Spoke to a worker there this morning and trust and believe they fed up of their 2013 salary.
This is a lie. It was not industrial action
Ripe Chenette wrote:Hearing talk about planned outages for 9-3 but cant verify.
But you know? Are you working ttec or working from home as you claim? Are you a member of the owtu? Or are you just being an arsehole as usual? Kindly stfu about things u know nothing about.hover11 wrote:Ok Joe you working t&tec sorry, a company will put out whatever Memo and reason to appease the public but carry on, t&tec workers cannot explicitly state that they are strikingj.o.e wrote:hover11 wrote:Fact of the matter is this was industrial action, remember the days when t&tec workers would come on news and say get your candles and lanterns ready , yea this time there is no warning. Spoke to a worker there this morning and trust and believe they fed up of their 2013 salary.
This is a lie. It was not industrial action
If you can read, you would have seen where I explicitly stated that I said I spoke to a seasoned worker there instead of asking stupid and redundant questions and this was the internal info, if you waiting for a memo from t&tec to state it was industrial action by all means wait for that....foolwing wrote:But you know? Are you working ttec or working from home as you claim? Are you a member of the owtu? Or are you just being an arsehole as usual? Kindly stfu about things u know nothing about.hover11 wrote:Ok Joe you working t&tec sorry, a company will put out whatever Memo and reason to appease the public but carry on, t&tec workers cannot explicitly state that they are strikingj.o.e wrote:hover11 wrote:Fact of the matter is this was industrial action, remember the days when t&tec workers would come on news and say get your candles and lanterns ready , yea this time there is no warning. Spoke to a worker there this morning and trust and believe they fed up of their 2013 salary.
This is a lie. It was not industrial action
VexXx Dogg wrote:What the actual firetruck is a medical visionary slash psychic?
Idk if she does charge ppl for her services . I think she just genuinely crazy and believes in what she says but she does do alot of charity.SPK1983 wrote:VexXx Dogg wrote:What the actual firetruck is a medical visionary slash psychic?
A median.
Between fools and their money.
Phone Surgeon wrote:Idk if she does charge ppl for her services . I think she just genuinely crazy and believes in what she says but she does do alot of charity.SPK1983 wrote:VexXx Dogg wrote:What the actual firetruck is a medical visionary slash psychic?
A median.
Between fools and their money.
Such are most religions.VexXx Dogg wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:Idk if she does charge ppl for her services . I think she just genuinely crazy and believes in what she says but she does do alot of charity.SPK1983 wrote:VexXx Dogg wrote:What the actual firetruck is a medical visionary slash psychic?
A median.
Between fools and their money.
That crazy contagious, because she chaining up people to be crazy too.
hover11 wrote:If you can read, you would have seen where I explicitly stated that I said I spoke to a seasoned worker there instead of asking stupid and redundant questions and this was the internal info, if you waiting for a memo from t&tec to state it was industrial action by all means wait for that....foolwing wrote:But you know? Are you working ttec or working from home as you claim? Are you a member of the owtu? Or are you just being an arsehole as usual? Kindly stfu about things u know nothing about.hover11 wrote:Ok Joe you working t&tec sorry, a company will put out whatever Memo and reason to appease the public but carry on, t&tec workers cannot explicitly state that they are strikingj.o.e wrote:hover11 wrote:Fact of the matter is this was industrial action, remember the days when t&tec workers would come on news and say get your candles and lanterns ready , yea this time there is no warning. Spoke to a worker there this morning and trust and believe they fed up of their 2013 salary.
This is a lie. It was not industrial action
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