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De Dragon wrote:Or he could simply indemnify Pfizer and the others through whatever legal or other measures are necessary.![]()
Also, haven't we already received Pfizer vaccines here already? Does T&T being a second party recipient indemnify Pfizer? Lastly, of all the things in the world to throw money at, you'd think vaccines in a pandemic would be at the top of the list wouldn't you?
Top red government people took the Pfizers. All done behind closed doors.De Dragon wrote:paid_influencer wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:hover11 wrote:Renuka Singh
T&T has signed a confidentiality agreement with the US even as it is still negotiating the gift of COVID-19 vaccines.
Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley was interviewed by his former Parliamentary opponent Dr Bhoe Tewarie during the latter’s morning show ‘Brighter Morning with Bhoe’ and gave some details on the promised donation of vaccines from the US and the prices of vaccines overall.
“With respect to the price, I could give the population the assurance that we are doing well with the pricing situation. That’s the most I can say,” he said.
“We are paying a fairly attractive price,” he said.
“The cheapest vaccine available to us and the one with the prices disclosed is the vaccine that we got through the Covax,” Rowley said.
Rowley said $20 per dose is a good price and anything lower than that is better.
The Covax facility is a not-for-profit system that includes some 184 countries investing as unit to obtain vaccines in bulk.
“The Covax price is not $15, I think we are using $5 and that could be one of the reasons why the Covax is not being adequately supplied or replenished because of that arrangement upfront before the vaccines were approved and the price was set,” Rowley said.
The Prime Minister said that once more vaccines received the World Health Organisation (WHO) approval, the price became the driving force.
“The first offering of the vaccine to the wealthy countries was in the order of upwards of 50 Euros a dose. That is where the companies were at,” Rowley said.
The confidentiality agreement, Rowley said, protects the seller, who will try to “extract” the price they could negotiate from the buyer.
“We had to sign three documents, one of which has already been signed, that is a confidentiality document, so all our dealings with the United States are under confidentiality cover,” he said.
Rowley said that T&T is still negotiating with the US for a share of the promised vaccines.
“All along the US has been very forthcoming with promising vaccines but that situation remains a negotiating position,” he said.
Caricom is represented by the Caribbean Public Health Agency (Carpha).
“Only the Carpha persons in the room have the details of the information but that officer is under confidential contract,” he said.
The second document was signed off but the third document represents the supplier and that has not been signed yet.
“When that third document is signed, we should have had a meeting with the supplier a couple of days ago but that meeting was postponed and that should happen in the next few days, maybe even today (yesterday) and maybe after that we would have completed the three documents and then the logistics and distribution could start,” he said.
“So we are waiting on that,” Rowley said.
Rowley said that if the vaccines coming out of that negotiation is able to be used to vaccinate children then it would be used to help get kids back to school.
“But until we have it in our hands from the United States, we can’t say that but we are looking in that direction,” he said.
Access to these vaccines would be useful as the Covax facility is not receiving vaccines to distribute to its participants.
“That Covax mechanism is suffering,” Rowleys said.
“It is not receiving vaccines to distribute to countries like ours. We were to get, during this month of June, that third tranche which would have taken us to 100,000 which we started expecting earlier in the programme,” he said.
Rowley said that two Saturdays ago, Covax advised that the last tranche of 33,000 would no longer be coming in July but should be available in August. Rowley defended the purchase of the China-made Sinopharm vaccine.
“So if we did not get another supply we would have been here with no vaccine now because we had used up all that we have got,” he said.
The Prime Minister said that he still does not know where or how he contracted the COVID-19 virus but suspects he may have come into contact with a contaminated surface.
Rowley tested positive for the virus back in April and has maintained that he was not sure where or how he got the virus.
Rowley reiterated that the 85 people around them were tested and all were negative. The Prime Minister tested positive for the virus just after the Easter weekend in April. He was due to be vaccinated that same time and had to forego the jab then. The Prime Minister was vaccinated on Tuesday.
“I was in Tobago for a full week and I interacted with a few people, which were family members, my household and few family members and some regular friends,” he said.
Rowley said he had no other symptoms other than a “runny nose”.
“And during my period of isolation I didn’t feel ill, I stayed completely in isolation,” he said.
Rowley said he was able to exercise and eventually tested negative and returned fully to work.
So America selling vaccine now?
One of the issues with getting the Pfizer vaccines has been liability protection. Who pays if things don't work out as the research and data suggests? Pfizer doesn't want that liability so it asks for waivers and large countries like the US gives them waivers and they accept.
For small countries, waivers aren't enough. There has been reports of some countries being asked to put up sovereign assets as collateral, to give substance to the manufacturer's liability protection in those countries.
so its not just the cost per vial.
Keith likely can't discuss any of this because of an .... N D A
Or he could simply indemnify Pfizer and the others through whatever legal or other measures are necessary.![]()
Also, haven't we already received Pfizer vaccines here already? Does T&T being a second party recipient indemnify Pfizer? Lastly, of all the things in the world to throw money at, you'd think vaccines in a pandemic would be at the top of the list wouldn't you?
De Dragon wrote:paid_influencer wrote:Mmoney607 wrote:hover11 wrote:Renuka Singh
T&T has signed a confidentiality agreement with the US even as it is still negotiating the gift of COVID-19 vaccines.
Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley was interviewed by his former Parliamentary opponent Dr Bhoe Tewarie during the latter’s morning show ‘Brighter Morning with Bhoe’ and gave some details on the promised donation of vaccines from the US and the prices of vaccines overall.
“With respect to the price, I could give the population the assurance that we are doing well with the pricing situation. That’s the most I can say,” he said.
“We are paying a fairly attractive price,” he said.
“The cheapest vaccine available to us and the one with the prices disclosed is the vaccine that we got through the Covax,” Rowley said.
Rowley said $20 per dose is a good price and anything lower than that is better.
The Covax facility is a not-for-profit system that includes some 184 countries investing as unit to obtain vaccines in bulk.
“The Covax price is not $15, I think we are using $5 and that could be one of the reasons why the Covax is not being adequately supplied or replenished because of that arrangement upfront before the vaccines were approved and the price was set,” Rowley said.
The Prime Minister said that once more vaccines received the World Health Organisation (WHO) approval, the price became the driving force.
“The first offering of the vaccine to the wealthy countries was in the order of upwards of 50 Euros a dose. That is where the companies were at,” Rowley said.
The confidentiality agreement, Rowley said, protects the seller, who will try to “extract” the price they could negotiate from the buyer.
“We had to sign three documents, one of which has already been signed, that is a confidentiality document, so all our dealings with the United States are under confidentiality cover,” he said.
Rowley said that T&T is still negotiating with the US for a share of the promised vaccines.
“All along the US has been very forthcoming with promising vaccines but that situation remains a negotiating position,” he said.
Caricom is represented by the Caribbean Public Health Agency (Carpha).
“Only the Carpha persons in the room have the details of the information but that officer is under confidential contract,” he said.
The second document was signed off but the third document represents the supplier and that has not been signed yet.
“When that third document is signed, we should have had a meeting with the supplier a couple of days ago but that meeting was postponed and that should happen in the next few days, maybe even today (yesterday) and maybe after that we would have completed the three documents and then the logistics and distribution could start,” he said.
“So we are waiting on that,” Rowley said.
Rowley said that if the vaccines coming out of that negotiation is able to be used to vaccinate children then it would be used to help get kids back to school.
“But until we have it in our hands from the United States, we can’t say that but we are looking in that direction,” he said.
Access to these vaccines would be useful as the Covax facility is not receiving vaccines to distribute to its participants.
“That Covax mechanism is suffering,” Rowleys said.
“It is not receiving vaccines to distribute to countries like ours. We were to get, during this month of June, that third tranche which would have taken us to 100,000 which we started expecting earlier in the programme,” he said.
Rowley said that two Saturdays ago, Covax advised that the last tranche of 33,000 would no longer be coming in July but should be available in August. Rowley defended the purchase of the China-made Sinopharm vaccine.
“So if we did not get another supply we would have been here with no vaccine now because we had used up all that we have got,” he said.
The Prime Minister said that he still does not know where or how he contracted the COVID-19 virus but suspects he may have come into contact with a contaminated surface.
Rowley tested positive for the virus back in April and has maintained that he was not sure where or how he got the virus.
Rowley reiterated that the 85 people around them were tested and all were negative. The Prime Minister tested positive for the virus just after the Easter weekend in April. He was due to be vaccinated that same time and had to forego the jab then. The Prime Minister was vaccinated on Tuesday.
“I was in Tobago for a full week and I interacted with a few people, which were family members, my household and few family members and some regular friends,” he said.
Rowley said he had no other symptoms other than a “runny nose”.
“And during my period of isolation I didn’t feel ill, I stayed completely in isolation,” he said.
Rowley said he was able to exercise and eventually tested negative and returned fully to work.
So America selling vaccine now?
One of the issues with getting the Pfizer vaccines has been liability protection. Who pays if things don't work out as the research and data suggests? Pfizer doesn't want that liability so it asks for waivers and large countries like the US gives them waivers and they accept.
For small countries, waivers aren't enough. There has been reports of some countries being asked to put up sovereign assets as collateral, to give substance to the manufacturer's liability protection in those countries.
so its not just the cost per vial.
Keith likely can't discuss any of this because of an .... N D A
Or he could simply indemnify Pfizer and the others through whatever legal or other measures are necessary.![]()
Also, haven't we already received Pfizer vaccines here already? Does T&T being a second party recipient indemnify Pfizer? Lastly, of all the things in the world to throw money at, you'd think vaccines in a pandemic would be at the top of the list wouldn't you?
Habit7 wrote:Well the US told everybody about the vaccines they sent to T&T https://www.facebook.com/ttusa/posts/10159205436887357
And so far only Haiti got vaccines, nobody else in Caricom got any from them.
zoom rader wrote:Top red government people took the Pfizers. All done behind closed doors.
It's the daily mail... Nuff saidelec2020 wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9788269/People-given-AstraZenecas-Covid-jab-likely-antibodies-receive-Pfizers.htmlBritish health chiefs quietly released a warning that Pfizer and Moderna's Covid vaccines may cause heart damage, MailOnline revealed last week.
Fears about the mRNA jabs' links to myocarditis had been growing in recent weeks, following a string of cases in young adults and children in Israel and the US.
Now the UK's drug watchdog has updated its safety information to accept that the condition is a possible side effect of both vaccines, without a formal announcement.
The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency insists the complication – inflammation of the heart muscle which can damage the organ over time – is still 'extremely rare' and 'typically mild'.
But it wasn't listed as a potential side effect until last week, when the MHRA released its most up-to-date safety surveillance data.
Cardiologists say the benefits of both jabs still clearly outweigh the risks for the vast majority of the population.
However, they say it 'completely changes' the debate about vaccinating children in Britain.
Every other week the narrative for these vaccines changing and government bodies doing shady things like stealthily putting out these warnings, then saying that the pros of the vaccine outweigh the new risk as it only mild but at the same time one segment of the population shouldn't get the vaccine due to this new risk. LOL! Too much man too much
ruskie wrote:It's the daily mail... Nuff saidelec2020 wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9788269/People-given-AstraZenecas-Covid-jab-likely-antibodies-receive-Pfizers.htmlBritish health chiefs quietly released a warning that Pfizer and Moderna's Covid vaccines may cause heart damage, MailOnline revealed last week.
Fears about the mRNA jabs' links to myocarditis had been growing in recent weeks, following a string of cases in young adults and children in Israel and the US.
Now the UK's drug watchdog has updated its safety information to accept that the condition is a possible side effect of both vaccines, without a formal announcement.
The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency insists the complication – inflammation of the heart muscle which can damage the organ over time – is still 'extremely rare' and 'typically mild'.
But it wasn't listed as a potential side effect until last week, when the MHRA released its most up-to-date safety surveillance data.
Cardiologists say the benefits of both jabs still clearly outweigh the risks for the vast majority of the population.
However, they say it 'completely changes' the debate about vaccinating children in Britain.
Every other week the narrative for these vaccines changing and government bodies doing shady things like stealthily putting out these warnings, then saying that the pros of the vaccine outweigh the new risk as it only mild but at the same time one segment of the population shouldn't get the vaccine due to this new risk. LOL! Too much man too much
MaxPower wrote:zoom rader wrote:Top red government people took the Pfizers. All done behind closed doors.
Yep, this is a fact.
Friends, families and ofcourse our beloved 1%.
Top secret, no social media, no leaks.
zoom rader wrote:ruskie wrote:It's the daily mail... Nuff saidelec2020 wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9788269/People-given-AstraZenecas-Covid-jab-likely-antibodies-receive-Pfizers.htmlBritish health chiefs quietly released a warning that Pfizer and Moderna's Covid vaccines may cause heart damage, MailOnline revealed last week.
Fears about the mRNA jabs' links to myocarditis had been growing in recent weeks, following a string of cases in young adults and children in Israel and the US.
Now the UK's drug watchdog has updated its safety information to accept that the condition is a possible side effect of both vaccines, without a formal announcement.
The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency insists the complication – inflammation of the heart muscle which can damage the organ over time – is still 'extremely rare' and 'typically mild'.
But it wasn't listed as a potential side effect until last week, when the MHRA released its most up-to-date safety surveillance data.
Cardiologists say the benefits of both jabs still clearly outweigh the risks for the vast majority of the population.
However, they say it 'completely changes' the debate about vaccinating children in Britain.
Every other week the narrative for these vaccines changing and government bodies doing shady things like stealthily putting out these warnings, then saying that the pros of the vaccine outweigh the new risk as it only mild but at the same time one segment of the population shouldn't get the vaccine due to this new risk. LOL! Too much man too much
Forgive elec2020 he not to bright
elec2020 wrote:
sam1978 wrote:elec2020 wrote:
Electrocuted2020 don’t take them on . All daily mail articles are 100% factual. It’s on the internet , it must be true.
The Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has updated safety warnings for Pfizer and Moderna vaccines after “extremely rare” reports of myocarditis and pericarditis.
The UK regulator has updated safety warnings for Pfizer and Moderna vaccines after ‘extremely rare’ reports of myocarditis and pericarditis.
A full course of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is 64% effective at preventing infection and 64% at preventing symptomatic Covid-19 caused by the Delta variant, according to preliminary findings from a study by Israel’s health ministry.
The findings conflict with a number of other studies assessing the vaccine’s performance against the variant, which indicate a much higher degree of protection against infection and mild illness (between 80% and 90%).
He said: “As far as we understand, a significant tranche of doses have been allocated to supermarkets and distribution so we’ll be doing suppliers, distributors, and not just supermarkets but also mom and pops, mini marts.
Once you interact in our sector, there’s the opportunity to be vaccinated, especially if you are willing to accept the vaccine.”
Diptee encouraged people to enquire for their eligibility for the COVID-19 vaccine by emailing vaccineinfo@satthq.com
Jamaica Observer wrote:Prime Minister Dr Ralph Gonsalves says public sector workers who are not willing to take a vaccine to help prevent the spread of the coronavirus (COPVID-19) pandemic will be required to test regularly to prove their status.
In addition, he said, they will have to meet the cost of the test.
“You have to pay for it because what happens is this, some employers, and they must speak the truth about it …are saying you either get vaccinated or come with a COVID test every Monday morning,” Gonsalves said on the state-owned NBC Radio.
Well, why should the state, you don't want to take the vaccine, why should we pay for your test every Monday morning? Why don't you just take the vaccine?” Gonsalves said.
The government has said that unvaccinated public sector workers must take a COVID-19 test at least once every two weeks. The first test is provided free of cost, and after this, the workers must stand pay the EC$26 (One Ec dollar=US$0.37 cents) for each of the other tests.
“You get the first one free. I think they even give you the second one free. But you decide you are not taking the vaccine, for whatever reason and I take the vaccine, I'm a taxpayer; I have to pay for it (your test). It cost nearly US$10 to do the antigen test, for each one.”
Gonsalves told radio listeners that he is aware of a hotel construction site with 170 employees that was closed for a week after two workers tested positive for COVID-19.
elec2020 wrote:some Caribbean leaders showing that they want to be the next Fidel Castro
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