COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[sam1978]

Between 5am to 7pm.

[K74T]

I am convinced that Terrence Deyalsingh is one a-hole.

Imagine this man says that 20,000 vaccines will be given this weekend.

So between 5am - 10 am on Sat & Sunday, they are going to vaccinate 20,000 people

What kind of sh-thole thinking is that?

Zoom, where are you?

This weekend’s curfew is 7pm not 10am.

[zoom rader]

I am convinced that Terrence Deyalsingh is one a-hole.

Imagine this man says that 20,000 vaccines will be given this weekend.

So between 5am - 10 am on Sat & Sunday, they are going to vaccinate 20,000 people

What kind of sh-thole thinking is that?

Zoom, where are you?

Rowlair and dirty habits 7 will have to apologise once again.

Then MAX will say the red government did a good job apologising .

[bluefete]

Thanks for the correction on the times.

So between 5am - 7 pm on Sat & Sunday - 20,000 vaccines will be given. Okay then.

I am convinced that Terrence Deyalsingh is one a-hole.

Imagine this man says that 20,000 vaccines will be given this weekend.

So between 5am - 10 am on Sat & Sunday, they are going to vaccinate 20,000 people

What kind of sh-thole thinking is that?

Zoom, where are you?

This weekend’s curfew is 7pm not 10am.

[sam1978]

Deyalsing said we owe a debt of gratitude to Skowley. Deyalsing owes a debt of gratitude to him for brakesing for him.

[bluefete]

Between 5am to 7pm.

Thank you. Corrected.

[bluefete]

I am convinced that Terrence Deyalsingh is one a-hole.

Imagine this man says that 20,000 vaccines will be given this weekend.

So between 5am - 10 am on Sat & Sunday, they are going to vaccinate 20,000 people

What kind of sh-thole thinking is that?

Zoom, where are you?

Rowlair and dirty habits 7 will have to apologise once again.

Then MAX will say the red government did a good job apologising .

Correction to the time: 5am - 7pm. And I still would not be able to get a vaccine.

[zoom rader]

I am convinced that Terrence Deyalsingh is one a-hole.

Imagine this man says that 20,000 vaccines will be given this weekend.

So between 5am - 10 am on Sat & Sunday, they are going to vaccinate 20,000 people

What kind of sh-thole thinking is that?

Zoom, where are you?

Rowlair and dirty habits 7 will have to apologise once again.

Then MAX will say the red government did a good job apologising .

Correction to the time: 5am - 7pm. And I still would not be able to get a vaccine.

Take bull

[bluefete]

Deyalsing said we owe a debt of gratitude to Skowley. Deyalsing owes a debt of gratitude to him for brakesing for him.

Wifey now telling me that the private sector is doing it this weekend so they should reach the 20,000.

But in the week the public service doing 50 per day at the health centres?

[adnj]

Hover11: It is simple geo-politics and economics at play here. Who controls the media controls the news that you get and what you believe.

There is a global big pharma battle between the Chinese, Americans and Europeans for market share. And if dis-information has to be part of that - so be it.

So some of the people who got the vaccines will not transmit but could still get Covid-19. That makes no sense to me. The purpose of a vaccine is to PREVENT. But, okay.

Alphaman: Do you not recognize how the world is being chained up over this? If the Sinovac vacine is good, why would Canada and the Europeans not want to use it or accept people who have been vaccinated with it?

So because the Europeans and Americans say "it is a useless vaccine" - that makes it so. Again, okay.

Makes perfect sense to me.

It is poor at stopping transmission....unlike pfizer and mrdna

I will just quietly leave this here.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/c ... r-BB1gCGwD

China Sinovac Shot Seen Highly Effective in Real World Study
Bloomberg News 5/12/2021


(Bloomberg) -- Sinovac Biotech Ltd.’s vaccine is wiping out Covid-19 among health workers in Indonesia, an encouraging sign for the dozens of developing countries reliant on the controversial Chinese shot, which performed far worse than western vaccines in clinical trials.


Indonesia tracked 128,290 health workers in capital city Jakarta from January to March and found that the vaccine protected 98% of them from death and 96% from hospitalization as soon as seven days after the second dose, Pandji Dhewantara, a Health Ministry official who oversaw the study, said in a Wednesday press conference.

Dhewantara also said that 94% of the workers had been protected against symptomatic infection -- an extraordinary result that goes beyond what was measured in the shot’s numerous clinical trials. Health Minister Budi Gunadi Sadikin earlier revealed a smaller version of the study involving 25,374 people in a Tuesday interview with Bloomberg that had the same effectiveness data for hospitalization and infection. Protection against death was 100% in the smaller group.

“We see a very, very drastic drop,” in hospitalizations and deaths among medical workers, Sadikin said. It’s not known what strain of the coronavirus Sinovac’s shot worked against in Indonesia, but the country has not flagged any major outbreaks driven by variants of concern.

The data adds to signs out of Brazil that the Sinovac shot is more effective than it proved in the testing phase, which was beset by divergent efficacy rates and questions over data transparency. Results from its biggest Phase III trial in Brazil put the shot known as CoronaVac’s efficacy at just above 50%, the lowest among all first-generation Covid vaccines.

A spokesman for Sinovac in Beijing said the company cannot comment on the Indonesian study until it acquires more details.

The Indonesian study compared vaccinated against non-vaccinated people to derive the estimated effectiveness. The median age of the participants is 31 years old.

In a separate interview with Bloomberg Tuesday, Sinovac’s chief executive officer Yin Weidong defended the disparity in clinical data around the shot, and said there was growing evidence CoronaVac is performing better when applied in the real world.

Places That Use Sinovac’s Shot

East Asia & Pacific

South & Central Asia

Sub-Saharan

Africa

Middle East & North Africa

Central & Eastern Europe

Latin America & Caribbean

China

Hong Kong

Laos

Cambodia

Malaysia

Thailand

Indonesia

Philippines

Pakistan
Sudan

Zimbabwe

Guinea

Benin

Equatorial Guinea

Somalia

Egypt

Tunisia

Turkey

Ukraine

Azerbaijan

Hungary

Bosnia and Herzegovina

Moldova

Albania

Brazil

Mexico

Colombia

Chile

Ecuador

Dominican Republic

Paraguay

El Salvador

Uruguay

But the real-world examples also show that the Sinovac shot’s ability to quell outbreaks requires the vast majority of people to be vaccinated, a scenario that developing countries with poor health infrastructure and limited access to shots cannot reach quickly. In the Indonesian health worker study, and another in a Brazilian town of 45,000 people called Serrana, nearly 100% of people studied were fully vaccinated, with serious illness and deaths dropping after they were inoculated.


In contrast, Chile saw a resurgent outbreak after vaccinating over a third of the population of 19 million -- one of the fastest rates in the world, but not fast enough to stop the spread of the aggressive variant sweeping Latin America.

“The earliest group of people vaccinated in Chile are old people. Less than 15 million of doses given to Chile means only 7 million people can get our shots. That equals to only 36% of a population of 19 million,” said Yin. “It’s normal that the country sees a resurgence of infections as social activities increase among the younger people who are mainly not inoculated.”

Among people vaccinated with CoronaVac in Chile, 89% were protected from serious Covid that requires intensive care, said Yin.

The vaccine’s protection is likely to vary from place to place due to virus variants, but Sinovac’s shot appears to be holding up well against the new mutations of concern, he said.

A key question for all Covid vaccines is whether they can prevent or deter actual transmission of the virus. Yin said Tuesday that Sinovac does not yet know if its shot -- a traditional inactivated vaccine -- can stop or reduce the virus from being contracted in the first place, but the fact it is preventing serious illness and death is more important.

The mRNA shot developed by BioNTech SE and Pfizer Inc. has been shown to be over 90% effective in preventing transmission in Israel.

While non-mRNA vaccines are unlikely to be that effective in preventing transmission, the growing body of evidence that Sinovac’s shot works is a boon to China’s mission of supplying the developing world in a bid to increase its influence and standing. It’s also somewhat of a vindication amid criticism that Chinese vaccine developers disclosed less data and were less transparent about severe adverse events compared with western companies.

“The results from real world application and the scientific data we have from clinical trials will allow the world to judge our vaccine comprehensively,” said Yin. “We encourage our partners and governments in countries where our vaccine is being used to release such data as soon as possible.”

Indonesia was one of the earliest countries to place its bets on a Chinese vaccine. In January, President Joko Widodo became the first major world leader to receive the Sinovac shot in a bid to quell skepticism at home and abroad. Since then, Southeast Asia’s largest economy has administered more than 22 million doses, mostly Sinovac, as it seeks to reach herd immunity for its 270-million strong population by year-end.


“The minimum efficacy rate should be above 50%, so beyond that, the best vaccine is the one you can get as soon as possible, as every shot given can prevent deaths,” Health Minister Sadikin said. “It isn’t only about getting the highest efficacy rate, but inoculating people quickly.”


While neighboring Malaysia and Thailand are seeing a resurgence in cases, Indonesia’s rate of new infections and deaths has stabilized since a January peak. But with its massive population still mostly unprotected, the upcoming Eid holiday could cause cases to rebound by as much as 60% as people gather with family and travel home despite government restrictions, Sadikin warned.

Helen Petousis-Harris, a vaccinologist at the University of Auckland, said that the ability of vaccines to control a disease can be higher in the real world than when measured in clinical trials.

“In my experience, we often fail to predict the overall impact of vaccines, something that can only be seen in the real world after widespread use,” she said. “Reducing the bulk of disease is not only essential to save lives but also to reduce the chances of problematic variants appearing.”

(Updates with detail from expanded study from Indonesia.)

For more articles like this, please visit us at bloomberg.com

2021 Bloomberg L.P.

First World Countries say they aint want Sinopharm vaccinated persons in their country so it aint matter how much studies prove it works.
Its a useless vaccine that this government paying top tax payers dollars for.

How many trinis travel to China and Europe as opposed to the USA and Canada.
If you want to enter there you have to follow their rules and guidelines. Chinese vaccine = No Entry.

Wrong on both counts.

You are required to test prior to entry to the USA.

CDC fully vaccinated includes WHO EUA vaccines.

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Passengers

What if I have had a COVID-19 vaccine or have tested positive for antibodies? Do I still need a negative COVID-19 test or documentation of recovery from COVID-19?

Yes, at this time all air passengers traveling to the US, regardless of vaccination or antibody status, are required to provide a negative COVID-19 test result or documentation of recovery.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... elers.html

Have You Been Fully Vaccinated?

In general, people are considered fully vaccinated: ±

2 weeks after their second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or

2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen vaccine

If you don’t meet these requirements, regardless of your age, you are NOT fully vaccinated. Keep taking all precautions until you are fully vaccinated.

±This guidance applies to COVID-19 vaccines currently authorized for emergency use by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration: Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson (J&J)/Janssen COVID-19 vaccines.  This guidance can also be applied to COVID-19 vaccines that have been authorized for emergency use by the World Health Organization (e.g. AstraZeneca/Oxford).

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... nated.html

[MaxPower]

Rowlair and dirty habits 7 will have to apologise once again.

Then MAX will say the red government did a good job apologising .

Zoom,

Can’t say if it was a good job or not but “red government people” LOVE being apologized to.

[pugboy]

somebody here say rowlee buff up ferris for the arm wrestling debacle and ferris apologize for it

[Chimera]

You can't compare what the private sector is doing to what health centers doing .

I got mine at the Nagar.
Easily more than 100 volunteers with more than 15 or 20 doctors or desks.

Quickly admitting people in batches of 15 or 20. A massive wide open space. Endless parking .
And alot of people who know what they come for. Very little time wasting of explaining the vaccine and what it does .

They not checking pressure or vitals or anything at those mass vaccination sites.
Just a quick temp check..
Pace in yuh waist.

Deyalsing said we owe a debt of gratitude to Skowley. Deyalsing owes a debt of gratitude to him for brakesing for him.

Wifey now telling me that the private sector is doing it this weekend so they should reach the 20,000.

But in the week the public service doing 50 per day at the health centres?

[bluefete]

So when would the self-employed, under 60, with zero co-morbidities get vaccinated?

You can't compare what the private sector is doing to what health centers doing .

I got mine at the Nagar.
Easily more than 100 volunteers with more than 15 or 20 doctors or desks.

Quickly admitting people in batches of 15 or 20. A massive wide open space. Endless parking .
And alot of people who know what they come for. Very little time wasting of explaining the vaccine and what it does .

They not checking pressure or vitals or anything at those mass vaccination sites.
Just a quick temp check..
Pace in yuh waist.

Deyalsing said we owe a debt of gratitude to Skowley. Deyalsing owes a debt of gratitude to him for brakesing for him.

Wifey now telling me that the private sector is doing it this weekend so they should reach the 20,000.

But in the week the public service doing 50 per day at the health centres?

[paid_influencer]

So when would the self-employed, under 60, with zero co-morbidities get vaccinated?

the age cut orf for the public vaxx program is 65.

so even if you 64 years old with cormorbidies, you not meeting the criteria yet.

but it looking like the only way right now is get a link up scene with a group that have a private sector vaxx program coming up. I just recently see the Manufacturer's association was giving out AstraZeneca first-doses, so you could GT with your choice of vaxx too if you have the right links.

(not that I encourage or endorse line jumping)

[adnj]

So when would the self-employed, under 60, with zero co-morbidities get vaccinated?

the age cut orf for the public vaxx program is 65.

so even if you 64 years old with cormorbidies, you not meeting the criteria yet.

but it looking like the only way right now is get a link up scene with a group that have a private sector vaxx program coming up. I just recently see the Manufacturer's association was giving out AstraZeneca first-doses, so you could GT with your choice of vaxx too if you have the right links.

(not that I encourage or endorse line jumping)

Did something change?

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Phase 1

In Phase 1 the following groups of people will be eligible receive the COVID-19 vaccine:

healthcare workers

the elderly (60 years and over)

persons with non-communicable diseases (NCDs) such as hypertension (high blood pressure) and diabetes (high blood sugar).

NB- The Phase 1 rollout of the National COVID-19 Vaccination Programme begins with those at the highest risk and highest exposure to the disease, i.e healthcare workers and persons aged 60 years and older with Non-Communicable Diseases (NCDs).



https://health.gov.tt/covid-19/covid-19-vaccine/faqs

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ I think they changed it to 65 after the crazy rush when they stopped the appointment system and announced first-come-first-served

[redmanjp]

^ I think they changed it to 65 after the crazy rush when they stopped the appointment system and announced first-come-first-served

correct. some old ppl had complain they doh know nothing about computer and can't sign up for appointment so they went with the foolish first come first serve. then when that failed they switch to alphabetical. then now they limit it to 65 and over.

i guess when they cover most over 65 they will expand to over 60 and those under 60 with NCDs. but i would think that those under 60 can use computers to make an appointment.

[drchaos]

If I was youse guys I wouldn't trust vaccine data from THIRD WORLD countries.

Third world country Officials are easily corruptible, which means that your data stack can be very unreliable.
Also the Sinovac officials have a history of Bribery accusations.
https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/202 ... ccine.html
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2021/0 ... velopment/

Also there are piss poor VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting Systems) data collection and reporting. Which means you got sheit safety data.

First world countries are also corrupt but its nowhere near as bad and there is way more transparency.

[Chimera]

alot of people who getting vaccines through public service are getting AZ as well

[Gem_in_i]

AZ was allocated to each Ministry. Not much.

[Habit7]

I am convinced that Terrence Deyalsingh is one a-hole.

Imagine this man says that 20,000 vaccines will be given this weekend.

So between 5am - 10 am (CORRECTION 5am -7pm) on Sat & Sunday, they are going to vaccinate 20,000 people

What kind of sh-thole thinking is that?

Zoom, where are you?

Well from Saturday 12th to Monday 14th June (3days) they did over 20,000 jabs. If they put their ducks in a row, they could do 20,000 on Saturday and Sunday.

But they have high but achievable ambition you call that "sh-thole thinking"? You want him to hope in sunlight owat?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

well I just checked the video. They are calling covid the "Chinese Virus", and the vaccines for COVID are by extension "Chinese Virus Vaccine." so this isn't referencing Sinopharm or Sinovac specifically.

I take back anything I ever said in defense of OAN. I will not die on that hill.

More than just that
Their news reporting has been far from fact and similar to Newsmax they pushed a lot of false information

[bluefete]

Well, some of us knew this all along.


Author: Ronal Bhola



Some months ago when Dr Nandram was dismissive of a question by journalist Urvashi Tiwari-Roopnarine many of us knew immediately that the authorities were uncomfortable with being truthful to the public about the Covid-19 epidemic in the country.

Nandram’s reply which started, “Not discounting your Google search Urvashi…” was contemptuous and condescending. Dr Nandram might have appeared once after that but has since disappeared.

Some of us know only too well from our years of long experience working in the public service, that the testing capacity at public institutions is limited, and thus the results presented to the public are not a true reflection of infections in the country. The histograms, pictographs and other graphs presented regularly, are all public relations gimmicks to mamaguy the lumpen and flotsam of society. So only someone with a knowledge of statistics can unmask this and explain if it is an attempt to educate or deceive the population.

If Ms Tiwari-Roopnarine is equipped with a sound knowledge of statistics then undoubtedly she will be a formidable figure that will make authorities tremble. My information from trusted sources is, that Urvashi Tiwari-Roopnarine has a masters degree in statistics; therefore anyone so qualified will understand if the statistical measurements as presented are really an attempt to educate or to bamboozle the population.

Now if that by itself does not make government ministers and medical professionals uncomfortable, take a look at her Facebook post of 1st May in which she says; “P1 is 2 TIMES as infectious…. “But whether or not authorities with all their academic qualifications and oaths to serve you the people of Trinidad and Tobago will admit, P1 IS A FACTOR in T&T’s SPIKE.”

She then challenged the authorities to “prove me otherwise.” They have not to date been able to. Saying she wrote to the CMO on March 23rd pointing out that numbers appeared to be doubling every few days and she suspected P1 was was driving not all but some of the spread, she received no response.

This was showed up the government as not being truthful and transparent with the population. But something that would have angered the political heavyweights was when she stated emphatically; “the election spike which featured much more activity and movement of persons in September 2020 is NOT comparatively the same as what is being seen post Easter.”

This was like an ‘un-pinned hand grenade put on the lap of non other than the cabinet. Here she was now a matador with a red flag in the bullfighters ring. She warned that “the countries most crippled by Covid are blamed largely on the way waves were managed. The authorities would have smiled but never applauded.

Yet she advised all about precautions to be observed and reiterated the basic public health guidelines. Knowledge of statistics arms one to understand epidemiology data.

If you did not take that seriously here she is again on June 8; “… the only way you can take results from a sample (eg which Covid strain is dominant) and extrapolate it to categorise an entire population is IF the sample is representative (a smaller replica) of the population. Statisticians use randomised samples to achieve this. If you are feeding suspected VOC cases, the positive repatriated or persons with severe disease to be sequenced, the results will obviously be skewed.”

“38% of samples tested by UWI being P1 is NOT the same as 38 % of detected cases in T&T being P1.” A journalist interpreting epidemiological data during a pandemic is not to be taken lightly. This is one area where political spin is not possible because facts are stubborn things.

That was an intercontinental ballistic missile and the government was not going to allow it. She was now a clear and present danger to political office holders and must be stopped !

First she must not attend the Saturday press conferences.

Writing 20 years ago in one of his commentaries in the newspaper about another administration, Retired Justice Lennox Deyalsingh said that the arms of the state are long and vengeful.

This now was action by the state on a journalist who committed no wrong.

The OCM Group acquiesced to government by sequestering one of its own a journalist who understands measurements of phenomena and exposed bamboozling of the population by a government.

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=101 ... 7014086539

[Dohplaydat]

This isn't some big pharma western conspiracy, it is a FACT that you cannot trust China as they routinely manipulate data, bribe, suppress info, and take endless shortcuts.

It's hard for me to even say the Chinese vaccines are safe, but from the number of people taking them, it appears to be so. And given that they use more traditional vaccination technology (inactivated virus), there's little risk of long-term side effects.

I've seen some peer-reviewed studies that at least show their vaccine works and does a tremendous job at preventing hospitalization. BUT, given that it does very little to reduce spread, means that until mostly everyone is vaccinated we will have a covid problem still.

AZ, J&J, and especially the mRNA vaccines are doing a fairly good job at reducing spread, but they do seem less effective against the delta varients.

[hover11]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1605445

The Chinese Sinopharm vaccine for Covid-19, which started being administered in Pakistan this week, is not recommended for people older than 60 years, Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on Health Dr Faisal Sultan said on Thursday.
Speaking to reporters in Islamabad, he said the government's expert committee while considering the preliminary analysis of Sinopharm data had recommended that the vaccine be licensed for people aged 18-60 "at this stage".
"At this stage, the [committee] did not authorise the vaccine for people older than 60," he added.
Dr Sultan said this was not an "unusual" scenario.

"When new medicines come, such things happen and the basis is whether that [age group of the] population or people with certain conditions were included in the research for it. When we get more data, perhaps it will be used for people above 60 as well."
When contacted by Dawn.com about which vaccine would be used for people over 60 instead of Sinopharm's, Dr Sultan said the AstraZeneca vaccine would be used.
When it was pointed out that certain countries such as Germany and France had not allowed the AstraZeneca jab for the old age group, raising concerns over the data, Dr Sultan noted that several other countries had approved the vaccine for senior citizens.
"When our Pakistani experts looked at the data, they were reasonably satisfied with the AstraZeneca data but felt that [based] on the presently available numbers for Sinopharm, the data did not justify its usage for those aged over 60.

"The Chinese have also reiterated this restriction," he added.
He said, however, that these were "complex matters", and it was unlikely that a homogeneous perspective would be seen regarding vaccine administration around the world.
On Wednesday, Pakistan started vaccinating frontline health workers against the coronavirus, days after receiving half a million doses of the Sinopharm vaccine donated by China.
In pictures: Pakistan launches Covid-19 vaccination drive, days after receiving doses from China
The Drug Regulatory Authority of Pakistan (Drap) had approved Chinese state-owned firm Sinopharm’s Covid-19 vaccine for emergency use last month. So far, three vaccines have been approved for use in the country — Sinopharm's vaccine, Russia's Sputnik V vaccine, and the vaccine developed by Oxford University-AstraZeneca.
On Saturday, Planning Minister Asad Umar had announced that the government had rec­eived a letter from Covax saying 17 million doses of the Astra­Zeneca vaccine would be provided to Pakistan in the first half of 2021.

'National institute needed for future epidemics'

During his media talk, the SAPM stressed that a national institute was needed to deal with future threats and challenges from epidemics and diseases like Covid-19. He shared that the government had also made amendments to the law governing the National Institute of Health (NIH) in Islamabad so it could be upgraded.
He said "good work" was being done at NIH but the government wanted to take it to "expert level".
"We believe NIH can be a [combined platform] where six to seven institutes are working on their own expert areas but are cooperating with the [Ministry of National Health Services, Regulation and Coordination] and with its cooperation, new research [can be conducted]."
Listing some of the institutes that would come under "one umbrella", he said they would include a national health laboratory, data centre, centre for disease control and a centre for biologics and biomedical technology.
"There [should] be one national institution to diagnose viral and bacterial infections so other labs can contact [it] and a proper system can be set up. A national health data centre has been created," he said while recalling that the National Command and Operation Centre (NCOC) had to "collect data haphazardly" but now a system had been developed for it instead.
The government expects that diseases like Covid-19 will keep on coming in the future similar to past diseases like Sars and bird flu, he said, adding that this was the reason a national data institution was needed where data could be analysed by experts and epidemiologists and they could decide in one place how the disease should be dealt with.
He also highlighted the need for separate institutes to deal with biological technology, production of anti-venom and nutrition.
He said the United States and China had developed "vaccines so quickly" because they had invested in research in the past.
"Pakistan is standing on the cusp where if these things are fixed just a bit, you will be shocked at the results," he added.

This isn't some big pharma western conspiracy, it is a FACT that you cannot trust China as they routinely manipulate data, bribe, suppress info, and take endless shortcuts.

It's hard for me to even say the Chinese vaccines are safe, but from the number of people taking them, it appears to be so. And given that they use more traditional vaccination technology (inactivated virus), there's little risk of long-term side effects.

I've seen some peer-reviewed studies that at least show their vaccine works and does a tremendous job at preventing hospitalization. BUT, given that it does very little to reduce spread, means that until mostly everyone is vaccinated we will have a covid problem still.

AZ, J&J, and especially the mRNA vaccines are doing a fairly good job at reducing spread, but they do seem less effective against the delta varients.

[hover11]

Why are we doing the opposite

[aaron17]

Those figures yesterday... what cause the spike?
Or is it because of the days curfews and amount of testing? Seems like that.

[zoom rader]

Why are we doing the opposite

Cause Trinidad is a land of idiots

[Dohplaydat]

Those figures yesterday... what cause the spike?
Or is it because of the days curfews and amount of testing? Seems like that.

99.9% sure it's this, our data reporting is very very haphazard and never perfectly reflects what happened previously, at least according to Avery who presents vastly different looking data when he shows the cases actually occuring each day in the past