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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 8th, 2016, 9:51 pm

Habit7 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:ALL of them are serious.

So I shouldn't equate your fat-shaming to Tim Kee's victim-shaming, but Olivierre writing an inconsequential letter and a minister who makes $33,000/mth depositing $93,000 is as serious as a minister influencing the allocation of an HDC house?

You insist on trying to draw a parallel between Tim Kee and myself. I guess you're trying to infer some sort of hypocrisy on my part, but here's what, try again. I hold no position of authority, my statements about Marlene/Camille are picong on a forum designed for such. As you and your cohort RASC have noted, I have on occasion agreed with positions that you and him have simplistically and ignorantly labelled as "feministic".

Try harder.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 8th, 2016, 9:58 pm

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 8th, 2016, 9:59 pm

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Habit7 » March 8th, 2016, 11:11 pm

De Dragon wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:ALL of them are serious.

So I shouldn't equate your fat-shaming to Tim Kee's victim-shaming, but Olivierre writing an inconsequential letter and a minister who makes $33,000/mth depositing $93,000 is as serious as a minister influencing the allocation of an HDC house?

You insist on trying to draw a parallel between Tim Kee and myself. I guess you're trying to infer some sort of hypocrisy on my part, but here's what, try again. I hold no position of authority, my statements about Marlene/Camille are picong on a forum designed for such. As you and your cohort RASC have noted, I have on occasion agreed with positions that you and him have simplistically and ignorantly labelled as "feministic".

Try harder.

Who cares what position you may or may not hold. You think it's ok for you to do something obnoxious because you are a nobody, but only when you hold a position of authority it becomes wrong? If the sentiment is wrong it is wrong, no matter your position or if you are try to couch it in humour.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby zoom rader » March 8th, 2016, 11:16 pm

Habit7 explain what went down with the PNM wedding in Tobago under the guise of retreat.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 8th, 2016, 11:39 pm

Habit7 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:ALL of them are serious.

So I shouldn't equate your fat-shaming to Tim Kee's victim-shaming, but Olivierre writing an inconsequential letter and a minister who makes $33,000/mth depositing $93,000 is as serious as a minister influencing the allocation of an HDC house?

You insist on trying to draw a parallel between Tim Kee and myself. I guess you're trying to infer some sort of hypocrisy on my part, but here's what, try again. I hold no position of authority, my statements about Marlene/Camille are picong on a forum designed for such. As you and your cohort RASC have noted, I have on occasion agreed with positions that you and him have simplistically and ignorantly labelled as "feministic".

Try harder.

Who cares what position you may or may not hold. You think it's ok for you to do something obnoxious because you are a nobody, but only when you hold a position of authority it becomes wrong? If the sentiment is wrong it is wrong, no matter your position or if you are try to couch it in humour.

Seriously? You are either the most naïve, or the most unaware person in the world if you cannot realize that public figures are held to a higher standard than us peons. Of course the critical distinction is that while I made my comments in jest, Tim Kee was serious in his intent and meaning.
All of a sudden you want to play women's rights defender and protector when it is Marlene and Camille? Please!
TRY AGAIN!

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Habit7 » March 8th, 2016, 11:39 pm

zoom rader wrote:Habit7 explain what went down with the PNM wedding in Tobago under the guise of retreat.

Well ZR there is already a thread for that where you can find my comments. However I can't seem to find yours when among other things govt's drug fighting helicopters were used to transport Machel and Band to perform at a private UNC function in Canoe Bay, Tobago. Where was you concern for the govt's purse then?
De Dragon wrote:Seriously? You are either the most naïve, or the most unaware person in the world if you cannot realize that public figures are held to a higher standard than us peons. Of course the critical distinction is that while I made my comments in jest, Tim Kee was serious in his intent and meaning.
All of a sudden you want to play women's rights defender and protector when it is Marlene and Camille? Please!
TRY AGAIN!

That's strange because in the Donald Sterling thread you condemned his racist statement but downplayed the importance as you told another poster than nobody knew him before.

Is you position on these stances evolving?
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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 8th, 2016, 11:43 pm

zoom rader wrote:Habit7 explain what went down with the PNM wedding in Tobago under the guise of retreat.

Well Underwear Man is now being hailed as the new WWF Champion. Weddings, Wakes and Funerals :lol: :lol:

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Dizzy28 » March 9th, 2016, 1:15 pm

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The two people I had reservations about prior to the elections last year have proven to be two of the more visible faces of the PNM so far in the press!!!!

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 9th, 2016, 11:25 pm

Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Habit7 explain what went down with the PNM wedding in Tobago under the guise of retreat.

Well ZR there is already a thread for that where you can find my comments. However I can't seem to find yours when among other things govt's drug fighting helicopters were used to transport Machel and Band to perform at a private UNC function in Canoe Bay, Tobago. Where was you concern for the govt's purse then?
De Dragon wrote:Seriously? You are either the most naïve, or the most unaware person in the world if you cannot realize that public figures are held to a higher standard than us peons. Of course the critical distinction is that while I made my comments in jest, Tim Kee was serious in his intent and meaning.
All of a sudden you want to play women's rights defender and protector when it is Marlene and Camille? Please!
TRY AGAIN!

That's strange because in the Donald Sterling thread you condemned his racist statement but downplayed the importance as you told another poster than nobody knew him before.

Is you position on these stances evolving?

Donald Sterling? You well digging up far to try and make a connection that simply isn't there, but, say what? Have at it. Meanwhile Underwear Man latest jackarse utterance is that he has 'no confidence' in the Integrity Commission :? Strangely, when he had make-believe emails he took them straight there!
Hear further Underwear Man jackarsery ' I have information other than other people's information and I am not the investigator and my job is to be guided by the information I have' :shock:
So is he saying he has something to help/nail Marlene? Is he waiting for the IC to ask him for it, or will he volunteer said 'information'. Underwear Man is a bag of contradictions and the length to which he is "braksing" for Two Plate and Camille is astonishing.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Chimera » March 10th, 2016, 6:17 am

You know i now remember that emailgate BS that was completely fabricated.


Rowley administration moving full 100% like the pigs from animal farm.

Napoleon muddac**t


I doh find the deyalsingh daughter wedding is a issue though. If they were going on retreat anyway, and is deyalsingh colleagues....dey wudda all go to tobago anyway for the wedding. Why not kill two birds on one weekend. If they had went tobago this week for retreat....and then tobago again next week for wedding....yuh wudda be vex


Plus its 6 months since election...that wedding venue and wedding probably planned and booked since before election......before pnm know they getting a tax payer funded vacation weekend im bago....

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 10th, 2016, 6:44 am

AYSN wrote:You know i now remember that emailgate BS that was completely fabricated.


Rowley administration moving full 100% like the pigs from animal farm.

Napoleon muddac**t


I doh find the deyalsingh daughter wedding is a issue though. If they were going on retreat anyway, and is deyalsingh colleagues....dey wudda all go to tobago anyway for the wedding. Why not kill two birds on one weekend. If they had went tobago this week for retreat....and then tobago again next week for wedding....yuh wudda be vex


Plus its 6 months since election...that wedding venue and wedding probably planned and booked since before election......before pnm know they getting a tax payer funded vacation weekend im bago....

Underwear Man and crew could attend wedding every week if dey want, since that is all they seem proficient at this point, but my issue is if WE the TAXPAYERS funded Social Engineer daughter wedding reception. This fackery about coincidence when Al-Rawi was MC!

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Chimera » March 10th, 2016, 9:16 am

Deyalsingh and family money tall long time. Taxpayers eh fund no wedding.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Habit7 » March 10th, 2016, 9:18 am

De Dragon wrote:Donald Sterling? You well digging up far to try and make a connection that simply isn't there, but, say what? Have at it. Meanwhile Underwear Man latest jackarse utterance is that he has 'no confidence' in the Integrity Commission :? Strangely, when he had make-believe emails he took them straight there!
Hear further Underwear Man jackarsery ' I have information other than other people's information and I am not the investigator and my job is to be guided by the information I have' :shock:
So is he saying he has something to help/nail Marlene? Is he waiting for the IC to ask him for it, or will he volunteer said 'information'. Underwear Man is a bag of contradictions and the length to which he is "braksing" for Two Plate and Camille is astonishing.
Well he said as Opposition Leader he had no confidence in the Integrity Commission when Justice Ventour ,who was in charge of the emailgate investigation, resigned and said that efforts were being made by the IC that were not judicial. As well as the chairman of the IC having not declared that he was in the Chambers of Kamla’s lawyer before his appointment. So this week when the reporters ask him if now as PM he still has no confidence and since all those other factors have not changed, he is being consistent in his no confidence in the IC he had before.

Likewise UNC had no confidence in the IC when it was just Ken Gordon and Ken Gordon invited Rowley into his home to discuss the said emails. So it is all pot calling kettle black. So try and be more objective if you commenting on the issue.

And don’t beat up if I show you that you are inconsistent on a position and you vacillate based on political bias. You and I know that you do that already, we just trying to demonstrate it to others.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby K74T » March 10th, 2016, 9:24 am

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby EmilioA » March 11th, 2016, 3:16 pm

CONCERNS were raised yesterday about a $32 billion overdraft on the Exchequer Account and the absence of contracts to support payments for certain projects under the former People’s Partnership (PP) government.

The concerns were raised by Independent Senator Dr Dhanayshar Mahabir and Trade and Industry Minister Paula Gopee-Scoon during a public meeting between members of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) and officials from the Auditor General’s Office on the public accounts for the financial year 2014.

http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,225106.html



Government achievement YAAAHHH!!!!! The PP make the biggest overdraft in we history. Give them a round of applause for that.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 13th, 2016, 2:05 pm

Habit7 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:Donald Sterling? You well digging up far to try and make a connection that simply isn't there, but, say what? Have at it. Meanwhile Underwear Man latest jackarse utterance is that he has 'no confidence' in the Integrity Commission :? Strangely, when he had make-believe emails he took them straight there!
Hear further Underwear Man jackarsery ' I have information other than other people's information and I am not the investigator and my job is to be guided by the information I have' :shock:
So is he saying he has something to help/nail Marlene? Is he waiting for the IC to ask him for it, or will he volunteer said 'information'. Underwear Man is a bag of contradictions and the length to which he is "braksing" for Two Plate and Camille is astonishing.
Well he said as Opposition Leader he had no confidence in the Integrity Commission when Justice Ventour ,who was in charge of the emailgate investigation, resigned and said that efforts were being made by the IC that were not judicial. As well as the chairman of the IC having not declared that he was in the Chambers of Kamla’s lawyer before his appointment. So this week when the reporters ask him if now as PM he still has no confidence and since all those other factors have not changed, he is being consistent in his no confidence in the IC he had before.

Likewise UNC had no confidence in the IC when it was just Ken Gordon and Ken Gordon invited Rowley into his home to discuss the said emails. So it is all pot calling kettle black. So try and be more objective if you commenting on the issue.

And don’t beat up if I show you that you are inconsistent on a position and you vacillate based on political bias. You and I know that you do that already, we just trying to demonstrate it to others.

Underwear Man had full confidence when meeting outside of the official IC reporting protocol at Ken Gordon's house. Only then he didn't trust the Police. Now that Gordon is out, he suddenly loses that confidence? When Marlene and Camille name jumping up he loses confidence? Did he say that Zainool Hosein sharing chambers with the ex PM was his reason? No.
He could of course take it to the Supreme Court of the World, aka the Underwear Man and Haram Wari court. This from a man who ad nauseam kept on about "himself judging himself" yet Camile has been cleared by him and Haram Wari? No "let the IC do their work", no "the truth will be revealed?"

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby zoom rader » March 13th, 2016, 5:44 pm

I still waiting for a PNM achievement.

I seeing more potholes that ever before. Guess you guys better stock up with good shocks

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 13th, 2016, 6:01 pm

zoom rader wrote:I still waiting for a PNM achievement.

I seeing more potholes that ever before. Guess you guys better stock up with good shocks

Nah man dey patch dem big hole/sink in Exchange Road two days ago.
Getting back to Supreme Court of Haram Rawi and Underwear Man, you ever notice that when said Underwear Man have bad/unpopular news to give he usually hides behind either Beh Beh or Haram Rawi? All the talk in the TTI speech about not covering for anyone etc. one day later here comes Haram Rawi to announce that based solely on whatever criteria he and Underwear Man used, she was exonerated :shock:
I guess Two Plate turn to be "cleared" will be next :roll:

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Habit7 » March 13th, 2016, 6:53 pm

Could you make you point without sounding like a 7 year old? Because you certainly not be funny.
De Dragon wrote:[Now that Gordon is out, he suddenly loses that confidence? When Marlene and Camille name jumping up he loses confidence? Did he say that Zainool Hosein sharing chambers with the ex PM was his reason? No.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150525 ... -worrisome

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 14th, 2016, 8:43 am

Habit7 wrote:Could you make you point without sounding like a 7 year old? Because you certainly not be funny.
De Dragon wrote:[Now that Gordon is out, he suddenly loses that confidence? When Marlene and Camille name jumping up he loses confidence? Did he say that Zainool Hosein sharing chambers with the ex PM was his reason? No.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20150525 ... -worrisome

7 year old? A puerile blind sheep fool want to talk about having no point? :lol: You are the saddest by far of all the PNM apologists on this forum, but I understand your hurt, it is hard when your idols turn out to be incompetent, thuggish-sounding idiots, so I will "'low" you as they say.
Also if your comprehension went beyond a 5 in Basic at CXC, you would see that in his reasons for having no confidence, in these particular matters, is not Zainool Hosein. Separate your rabid "PNM 'til ah dead" feelings and look at something objectively for once.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Habit7 » March 14th, 2016, 6:59 pm

De Froth

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby zoom rader » March 15th, 2016, 2:23 am

^^^ Retreat sound boy surrender retreat

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 15th, 2016, 9:26 am

zoom rader wrote:^^^ Retreat sound boy surrender retreat

Normal behaviour from someone who frequently twists the truth to justify his own biased conclusions. The sad part is, he is terrible at it! Everyone see right through it and when he's called on it, you get the little boy responses like "De Froth" and "le beat up"

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Habit7 » March 15th, 2016, 9:40 am

De Dragon wrote:but my issue is if WE the TAXPAYERS funded Social Engineer daughter wedding reception.


Deluded

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 15th, 2016, 11:48 am

Habit7 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:but my issue is if WE the TAXPAYERS funded Social Engineer daughter wedding reception.


Deluded

Again, your comprehension has let you down. I'd be quite prepared to let this issue go IF (notice that little word again?), we were presented with proof that the events were funded properly.
If you choose to swallow your idol's "coincidence" explanation without question, then there's a piece of swampland that I know of that might interest you.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Habit7 » March 15th, 2016, 3:47 pm

Well there again you remain deluded. A reception with 75 ppl, planned a year in advance, 4 Cabinet ministers attending, long after the formal conclusion of the retreat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1u3r2O3k64 , but you want to believe Paradath's accusation out of thin air after he himself racked up frequent flyer miles on my TAXPAYER dollar to the tune of $1.2 million and wasnt even a minister? Nearly every week govt or one of its entities hosts an event at a hotel, if a minister's child hosts one at the same hotel, does that mean the child must expose their business to public scrutiny? Let Barry ask the PM the question in parliament and let it get shot down like his others(PM still promised to go his wedding). It only serves to inspire the hopes of fellow Anti-Rowley's like yourself while they turn their eyes from the wild spending of the UNC administration.

And even more so you remain deluded as speak about other biased conclusions as if you dont have bias conclusions of your own.

Hon. F. Al-Rawi: “Doh worry to check about it. Trust meh, trust meh the way I trusted you on LifeSport.” The poor man, we heard. You have to be in touch with the constituency. Where was that advice when helicopter was flying up and down,left and right to Tobago? I understand there was a wedding in Tobago—
[Interruption]
Dr. Moonilal: You talking about wedding.
Hon. F. Al-Rawi:—in the last five years, that half the Cabinet then went to and the NOC helicopter, I am told, was flying up and down guests to the wedding, you know.
Mr. Deyalsingh: You want to ask questions.
Hon. F. Al-Rawi: I understand that. And I would like to tell hon. Members opposite, when “baraat” going to weddings TT $300 is not a hard reach for Members opposite or in the Government right now to pay for your return ticket, because when we left our retreat there were refunds back to the Government of Trinidad and Tobago because we underspent.
[Desk thumping] There was no alcohol, there was no partying, there were no lavish features, there was a return of
money. The staff was in shock.
http://www.ttparliament.org/hansards/hh20160308.pdf

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 15th, 2016, 4:50 pm

Habit7 wrote:Well there again you remain deluded. A reception with 75 ppl, planned a year in advance, 4 Cabinet ministers attending, long after the formal conclusion of the retreat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1u3r2O3k64 , but you want to believe Paradath's accusation out of thin air after he himself racked up frequent flyer miles on my TAXPAYER dollar to the tune of $1.2 million and wasnt even a minister? Nearly every week govt or one of its entities hosts an event at a hotel, if a minister's child hosts one at the same hotel, does that mean the child must expose their business to public scrutiny? Let Barry ask the PM the question in parliament and let it get shot down like his others(PM still promised to go his wedding). It only serves to inspire the hopes of fellow Anti-Rowley's like yourself while they turn their eyes from the wild spending of the UNC administration.

And even more so you remain deluded as speak about other biased conclusions as if you dont have bias conclusions of your own.

Hon. F. Al-Rawi: “Doh worry to check about it. Trust meh, trust meh the way I trusted you on LifeSport.” The poor man, we heard. You have to be in touch with the constituency. Where was that advice when helicopter was flying up and down,left and right to Tobago? I understand there was a wedding in Tobago—
[Interruption]
Dr. Moonilal: You talking about wedding.
Hon. F. Al-Rawi:—in the last five years, that half the Cabinet then went to and the NOC helicopter, I am told, was flying up and down guests to the wedding, you know.
Mr. Deyalsingh: You want to ask questions.
Hon. F. Al-Rawi: I understand that. And I would like to tell hon. Members opposite, when “baraat” going to weddings TT $300 is not a hard reach for Members opposite or in the Government right now to pay for your return ticket, because when we left our retreat there were refunds back to the Government of Trinidad and Tobago because we underspent.
[Desk thumping] There was no alcohol, there was no partying, there were no lavish features, there was a return of
money. The staff was in shock.
http://www.ttparliament.org/hansards/hh20160308.pdf

I suspect that if sheit was put in your mouth and you were told it was ice cream by Underwear Man, Haram Rawi, in fact, any PNM official you'd "nyam" it down and ask for seconds.
I'm positive that that claim will never be backed up by anything tangible in the way of documentation. You'll have to forgive my cynicism, but Haram- Rawi is not someone I'd believe "jus' so"
Also is it possible at all for you to defend the PNM without reference to the UNC? We all agree that sheit took place on their watch, but that doesn't mean that sheit happening now is not sheit.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby brams112 » March 15th, 2016, 6:09 pm

How come this thread turn out to a what UNC did,rather than what this govament achieve so far?seems like nothing except fool fools like habit an them then?

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Habit7 » March 15th, 2016, 11:17 pm

De Dragon wrote:I suspect that if sheit was put in your mouth and you were told it was ice cream by Underwear Man, Haram Rawi, in fact, any PNM official you'd "nyam" it down and ask for seconds.
I'm positive that that claim will never be backed up by anything tangible in the way of documentation. You'll have to forgive my cynicism, but Haram- Rawi is not someone I'd believe "jus' so"
Also is it possible at all for you to defend the PNM without reference to the UNC? We all agree that sheit took place on their watch, but that doesn't mean that sheit happening now is not sheit.
Umm, but aren't you nyamming what Padarath putting in your mouth?

If there is actual proof of "sheit" I will condemn it. But all you are offering is your delusions and I can't disprove that.





WRT to achievements, our last wanderlust for achievements without revenue generation has left us in this wonder pile of debt that we are in. Road paving, box drains and other construction is ongoing without fanfare. Let's consider achievements to be stabilising economy, not going to the IMF cap in hand and creating new revenue generating sources leading to a more diversified economy.

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