COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[Dohplaydat]

^^ Moderna has the highest efficacy. That is the one I am waiting on but no talk on when or if it will ever reach here.

The Russian Sputnik V is also very effective.

But this whole Covid thing is about economics. So the USA will approve US companies vaccines (Moderna, Pfizer(USA/Germany), J&J) while keeping out the competition (Sinopharm / Sinovac / Astra Zeneca / Sputnik V / Cuban) by making it look as if those vaccines are inferior.

Dude don't be a retard, if you have the opportunity to get a vaccine now take it. In 6 months you can take a Moderna if you have the opportunity.

Covid vaccines are going to be a yearly thing from now on.

UK already experimenting with first dose AZ, second dose Pfizer.

[adnj]

Brazilian town experiment shows mass vaccination can wipe out COVID-19

A small commuter town surrounded by sugarcane fields in southeastern Brazil, one of the countries hardest hit by COVID-19, has shown that even a vaccine that had low efficacy in some clinical trials can dramatically control the pandemic virus.

As part of an unusual experiment to track the real-world effectiveness of CoronaVac, a COVID-19 vaccine made by a Chinese company, almost all adult residents of Serrana, in the state of São Paulo, received the required two shots between February and April, long before most would otherwise have become eligible for the vaccine. The results were dramatic. Symptomatic cases of COVID-19 have dropped by 80% since the start of mass vaccination, related hospitalizations fell 86%, and deaths plummeted 95%, the research team in charge of the experiment reported during a press conference yesterday.

Meanwhile, cases have risen out of control in 15 other cities nearby. “Serrana is now an oasis,” says Ricardo Palacios, an epidemiologist at the Butantan Institute, a state-owned research center that produces the vaccine in Brazil. “And it has shown us that it is surely possible to control the epidemic through vaccination.”

Some other COVID-19 vaccines have demonstrated greater than 90% real-world effectiveness at preventing serious disease, and they have helped countries bring cases down to very low levels. But there has been concern about CoronaVac, which uses an inactivated copy of SARS-CoV-2 to stimulate immunity. Clinical trials conducted in several countries came up with different efficacy values for the vaccine, the lowest being 50% in Brazil—right at the threshold established by the World Health Organization (WHO) for emergency use of a COVID-19 vaccine. Later studies in Brazil that tried to assess the vaccine’s real-world effectiveness have indicated similar levels of protection.

That’s why the data from Serrana are reassuring to many scientists in Brazil, where CoronaVac makes up 80% of all vaccine doses administered. “These are very encouraging results,” says Ethel Maciel, an epidemiologist at the Federal University of Espírito Santo, Vitória, who was not part of the study. Maciel is especially relieved the vaccine protected the town because a SARS-CoV-2 variant dubbed P1, which originated in Brazil and is now the most prevalent in the country, was also the most common variant in Serrana during the period of the study. Lab studies had suggested P1, which WHO recently proposed renaming delta, could elude protection from vaccines.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/06 ... t-covid-19

[adnj]

^^ Moderna has the highest efficacy. That is the one I am waiting on but no talk on when or if it will ever reach here.

The Russian Sputnik V is also very effective.

But this whole Covid thing is about economics. So the USA will approve US companies vaccines (Moderna, Pfizer(USA/Germany), J&J) while keeping out the competition (Sinopharm / Sinovac / Astra Zeneca / Sputnik V / Cuban) by making it look as if those vaccines are inferior.

Dude don't be a retard, if you have the opportunity to get a vaccine now take it. In 6 months you can take a Moderna if you have the opportunity.

Covid vaccines are going to be a yearly thing from now on.

UK already experimenting with first dose AZ, second dose Pfizer.

Canada says COVID-19 vaccine doses are 'interchangeable,' encouraging mix-and-match vaccines while the CDC still stands firmly against it

Canada has loosened its rules around mixing and matching COVID-19 vaccine doses.

Evidence is mounting that using different vaccines for the first and second doses is safe and effective.

The US still recommends against mixing and matching vaccines, except in "exceptional situations."

Canada has released guidance saying that mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are interchangeable, and that an mRNA vaccine can safely be administered after a first dose of AstraZeneca vaccine.

[2WNBoost]

Sweden is also mixing vaccines

Covid-19 vaccines and their levels of protection
There are currently 3 approved vaccines available in Sweden.

Pfizer/BioNTech: protective effect of 95% after 2 doses, taken 6 weeks apart.
Moderna: protective effect of 94.5% after 2 doses, taken 6 weeks apart.
Oxford-AstraZeneca: average protective effect of 70% after 2 doses – higher than the average protective effect from the flu vaccine.
The Swedish Public Health Agency has approved the AstraZeneca vaccine to be given in two doses to people over 65. Those under 65 who have received the first dose are recommended to get a second dose of either the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna vaccine within 12–15 weeks.

https://www.kry.se/en/vaccination/covid-19-vaccine/

[Dohplaydat]

Looks like ivermectin might be a great option for covid.

preprint (not yet peer-reviewed) - https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/r93g4/

Ivermectin and the odds of hospitalization due to COVID-19: evidence from a quasi-experimental analysis based on a public intervention in Mexico City
José Merinoi (i Digital Agency for Public Innovation, Mexico City)Victor Hugo Borja ii (ii, Mexican Social Security Institute)Oliva López, José Alfredo Ochoa iii (iii, Ministry of Health, Mexico City)Eduardo Clark, Lila Petersen, Saul Caballero iv (iv Digital Agency for Public Innovation, Mexico City)

Code: https://github.com/nasaul/paper_ivermectina

Data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... Zp7ERUIeAQ

Summary

Objective
To measure the effect of Mexico City’s population-level intervention –an ivermectin-based Medical Kit––in hospitalizations during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Methods
A quasi-experimental research design with a Coarsened Exact Matching method using administrative data from hospitals and phone-call monitoring. We estimated logistic-regression models with matched observations adjusting by age, sex, COVID severity, and comorbidities. For robustness checks separated the effect of the kit from phone medical monitoring; changed the comparison period; and subsetted the sample by hospitalization occupancy,

Results
We found a significant reduction in hospitalizations among patients who received the ivermectin-based medical kit; the range of the effect is 52%-76% depending on model specification.

Conclusions
The study supports ivermectin-based interventions to assuage the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic on the health system.

[widdyphuck]

Is this legal?

[j.o.e]

Is this legal?

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Yes groceries can serve pre packaged meals prepared ON SITE

[hover11]

However why is a certain gas station on wrightson road still selling prepackaged meals?

Is this legal?

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Yes groceries can serve pre packaged meals prepared ON SITE

[De Dragon]

Na u talking sheit cz we real essential an GG say we applying for too much passes. Like he know what our workforce is. Telling us to rotate the pass

PLEA reached out to him, apparently a few energy sector employees were stopped and told the "normal" letters were insufficient.

[killercow]

Is this legal?

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Yes groceries can serve pre packaged meals prepared ON SITE

I interpreted this from a different perspective. Bakeries are allowed to open.
Massy happens to have one within the store.

Also, I've seen a few bakeries outside of physical supermarkets selling 'pre-packaged' food under the guise of "bakery-made".

[De Dragon]

So you think $50M will save us?

Just now the man going to ask me to give up my pay too. People eye really long yes.

The government has already caused a lot of citizens to lose their source of income.

50m a month for about two years... that is $100 towards 500,000 hampers monthly.

it might not save the ministers or sh!tkicker with his 4000head of goat, but it could save a small family from getting to undernourished and weak for covid to hit harder.

where is the 'shoulder to the wheel' and 'we all in the same boat' and 'tighten yuh belt' attitude?
where it is? it gets used conveniently, and put back in the box when u try to apply it to them.

So you want politicians to work for 2years with half their salary, but give more welfare? What impetus will a politician have to be innovative and earn the country more money by paying them less? When politicians underperform, you would not even have enough money to pay them half salary and the country will not have enough revenue allowing us to suffer more and ppl will need more welfare.

Plus ppl are already getting food cards, salary grants, rent grants, box lunch parents getting food cards and 600 Namdevco hampers per constituency. You want to put ppl on welfare for 2years? Extended welfare makes poor ppl poorer, it kills ingenuity and grows dependance on the state. The USA right struggling to get ppl to take up jobs because ppl have become dependent on unemployment welfare.

The country needs to reopen so that ppl will be employed. That will come when we receive more vaccines and ppl take them. Calling for politicians to receive half of their salary is vacuous and just punative to ppl you don't like. It has nothing to do with helping poor ppl. No public servant has lost their salary during this pandemic, there is no reason politicians shouldn't receive the same.

Firstly where you get half?
Secondly half, quarter 10% compared to ZERO, which sounds like you actually give a damn? ALL of them depending on taxpayer money to play caring with their hampers and green fig bags, but the LFD RFD PNM who raided the HSF, and have access to State largesse, is more hard hearted and uncaring.
Thirdly public servants alone need to eat, provide shelter, live? Your "point" ironically then, is utterly pointless, inane and senseless.

[j.o.e]

Is this legal?

FB_IMG_1622657480965.jpeg

Yes groceries can serve pre packaged meals prepared ON SITE

I interpreted this from a different perspective. Bakeries are allowed to open.
Massy happens to have one within the store.

Also, I've seen a few bakeries outside of physical supermarkets selling 'pre-packaged' food under the guise of "bakery-made".

Bakeries and groceries both allowed to provide pre packaged meals made on site. No Royal castle etc

[De Dragon]

Is this legal?FB_IMG_1622657480965.jpeg

Yes groceries can serve pre packaged meals prepared ON SITE

I interpreted this from a different perspective. Bakeries are allowed to open.
Massy happens to have one within the store.

Also, I've seen a few bakeries outside of physical supermarkets selling 'pre-packaged' food under the guise of "bakery-made".

Bakeries and groceries both allowed to provide pre packaged meals made on site. No Royal castle etc

Superpharm in this too? Meaning no pre-packaged Presto meals?

[daring dragoon]

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robbery more like it. 12lbs of cassava for $20, $7 for a lb of lentil, $12 for a pack of mix parts. container is $2.

[killercow]

[shake d livin wake d dead]

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[K74T]

[DMan7]

11K new tests done and only 412 cases? Huh?

[Dohplaydat]

Cases do seem to be dropping (note there is like a week lag anyway) so the actual numbers today won't be reflected till next week.

There is a lot of testing going on over the last week, yet cases have appeared to drop. So it looks like positivity rate has come down somewhat.

[Dohplaydat]

11K new tests done and only 412 cases? Huh?

Private lab reported tests now coming in, normally it's 4k to 7k but due to the public holiday weekend it spiked up to 11k.

You'll NEED to stop thinking the cases and reported tests in the last 24 hours are in sync.

They are NOT, the cases reported have come in over a 5 day period whereas the tests done are just the number of tests reportedly done since the last update.

Weekends don't receive private lab updates so those are batched and received Monday/Tue/Wed

[DMan7]

11K new tests done and only 412 cases? Huh?

Private lab reported tests now coming in, normally it's 4k to 7k but due to the public holiday weekend it spiked up to 11k.

You'll NEED to stop thinking the cases and reported tests in the last 24 hours are in sync.

They are NOT, the cases reported have come in over a 5 day period whereas the tests done are just the number of tests reportedly done since the last update.

Weekends don't receive private lab updates so those are batched and received Monday/Tue/Wed

OK Boss.

[hover11]

I am not sure about the number of tests done. This system makes it hard to decipher the real information. If that is the case about, 4% of the tests done are positive cases. When we had a staggering 49 percent average with regards of positivity.

[Dohplaydat]

I am not sure about the number of tests done. This system makes it hard to decipher the real information. If that is the case about, 4% of the tests done are positive cases. When we had a staggering 49 percent average with regards of positivity.

yea because the results of those 11k reported tests have not come it.....or maybe some has, who knows. Their data is messy AF.

[Mmoney607]

Anyone else find the numbers don't have the impact they once had. A few weeks ago if we had 16 deaths in one day everyone was in melt down. Now you see and just keep scrolling.

[hover11]

Guessing we became desensitized

Anyone else find the numbers don't have the impact they once had. A few weeks ago if we had 16 deaths in one day everyone was in melt down. Now you see and just keep scrolling.

[aaron17]

Not sure if posted
Businessman who claimed Pfizer entered T&T to give info to CMO
http://www.looptt.com/content/businessm ... e-info-cmo

[MaxPower]

Anyone else find the numbers don't have the impact they once had. A few weeks ago if we had 16 deaths in one day everyone was in melt down. Now you see and just keep scrolling.

Everyone was in a melt down? Really?

Na man.

We need 50+ a day or so and bodies burning on the pavement to have any melt down.

Trinis have not learnt anything and are just waiting patiently for beaches, bars and fast food to open to do exactly what they do best.

[ScHoolboySoloQ]

Cases do seem to be dropping (note there is like a week lag anyway) so the actual numbers today won't be reflected till next week.

There is a lot of testing going on over the last week, yet cases have appeared to drop. So it looks like positivity rate has come down somewhat.

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Hoss you not seeing 9579 active cases

You should be checking discharge rates instead of case hunting.

Word getting out that people got a lot worse when they went to Couva hospital.

[sMASH]

^^ watch the case rate to see how fast it spreading, and the death rate to see how srs it is at that time.

[ST Auto]

This week was always going to be a low number of cases week cz of the lag. Holidays an too little testing. Wait till next week for some more accurate numbers