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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby zoom rader » February 28th, 2016, 11:05 am

desifemlove wrote:and? why is the notion that those who have more means to pay is wrong?

you keep mentioning the UK, as if you have extensive experience of living there.....well if you do, you'll know that most accept the idea that higher earners pay a higher proportionate share of taxes for ting...... and if it make Kwame able to study and get a good job, or kumarsingh even if he from a poor family, why not?


Yes I have spent a good few years working in the UK and got to learn how their government equally run things for all their citizens . I have especially spoken to young intern, grads, apprentices and older workers . It's amazing how they started off and got funded for education. They are given grants, loans, company sponsorship and even paid to do an apprenticeship skill. Education can cost you nothing in the UK as a citizen through the right channels.

Everyone working person in the UK pays taxes. I think at below £32k you paid 25% over that it's 40% minus personal tax free allowance of £10600.
They pay taxes and get EQUAL BENEFITS regardless of status
.
I read where Joan Collins multi millionaire actor, when she was unemployed still claimed her job seekers allowance (dole) because she paid her taxes.

Here in Trin you are telling some people that they have to pay taxes and not receive benefits that is due to them because they are successful.
These are young ppl, it's their parents that are successful and it's the same ppl that pay taxes.

This new measure by this government is pure racist it is singling out one group of people because they choose education over naming all the parts on a glock and AK 47.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby eliteauto » February 29th, 2016, 4:17 pm

De Dragon wrote:
eliteauto wrote:seems the PNM has gotten the closet racists out their closet, they've also gotten some idiot to form a band of merry men, achievement unlocked

PNM groupies, hangers-on, sycophants and sheep would consider this an achievement.............


I agree with you 100%, the minute you understand why I do, you'll better understand politics

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby Morpheus » February 29th, 2016, 6:59 pm

LoL @ ZR

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Postby Rory Phoulorie » February 29th, 2016, 7:18 pm

Trinidad and Tobago Guardian wrote:EFCL fires Shah, Maharaj

Shaliza Hassanali
Published:
Sunday, February 28, 2016


The board of the Education Facilities Company Ltd (EFCL) has taken a decision to terminate the employment of its suspended chief executive officer Sharma Maharaj and chief operations officer, Kiran Shah.

The termination was effective on February 23.

Both men, who were retained under the former People’s Partnership government, received their dismissal letters from the EFCL’s corporate secretary.

Confirmation came yesterday from EFCL chairman and former agriculture minister Arnold Piggott.

Piggott said, “The board, having lost confidence in the two executive members, took a decision to terminate their employment.”

Piggott, however, refused to answer any further questions.

Last November, police officers were called in by the current board, as part of the ongoing criminal probe into the EFCL’s operations under its former board.

After their visits the officers reportedly carted away several hard drives from computer systems at the offices and other documents.

A private room was also discovered when the new board, led by Piggott, toured the Maraval offices.

A small group of EFCL employees were found to be doctoring documents and back-dating contracts.

Following the discovery, Maharaj and Shah were suspended with full pay and benefits, pending the outcome of an investigation into the EFCL’s operations under the previous board.

The EFCL also ordered two independent audits.

“The audits were conducted because the company was in a bad shape. We would need to put in a lot of controls in the area of accounting and auditing in particular, so that we can cut back on any wastage and provide value for money in the awarding of contracts,” a source at the EFCL said.

The source said the EFCL was seeking to re-establish good management principles and improve its image.

“EFCL is committed to focussing on the core business of the company, which is to build, repair and maintain as well as outfit all schools from Early Childhood Care and Education to secondary. This with the objective of providing a healthy and comfortable learning and teaching environment.”

The positions of both men would have to be filled, but the source could not say when.

“The board is on a re-organisation of the company and in that process will determine what is required to deliver on its mandate.”

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2016-02- ... ah-maharaj

When the Toyota Prado that was used by Sharma Maharaj was returned to EFCL, the entire interior was vandalised by the last user. UNC diehards star again.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » February 29th, 2016, 10:28 pm

eliteauto wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
eliteauto wrote:seems the PNM has gotten the closet racists out their closet, they've also gotten some idiot to form a band of merry men, achievement unlocked

PNM groupies, hangers-on, sycophants and sheep would consider this an achievement.............


I agree with you 100%, the minute you understand why I do, you'll better understand politics

Don't patronize me, and try better at the mind games.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby desifemlove » February 29th, 2016, 10:48 pm

zoom rader wrote:
desifemlove wrote:and? why is the notion that those who have more means to pay is wrong?

you keep mentioning the UK, as if you have extensive experience of living there.....well if you do, you'll know that most accept the idea that higher earners pay a higher proportionate share of taxes for ting...... and if it make Kwame able to study and get a good job, or kumarsingh even if he from a poor family, why not?


Yes I have spent a good few years working in the UK and got to learn how their government equally run things for all their citizens . I have especially spoken to young intern, grads, apprentices and older workers . It's amazing how they started off and got funded for education. They are given grants, loans, company sponsorship and even paid to do an apprenticeship skill. Education can cost you nothing in the UK as a citizen through the right channels.

Everyone working person in the UK pays taxes. I think at below £32k you paid 25% over that it's 40% minus personal tax free allowance of £10600.
They pay taxes and get EQUAL BENEFITS regardless of status
.
I read where Joan Collins multi millionaire actor, when she was unemployed still claimed her job seekers allowance (dole) because she paid her taxes.

Here in Trin you are telling some people that they have to pay taxes and not receive benefits that is due to them because they are successful.
These are young ppl, it's their parents that are successful and it's the same ppl that pay taxes.

This new measure by this government is pure racist it is singling out one group of people because they choose education over naming all the parts on a glock and AK 47.


i never said anything different. state where i said people who pay taxes shouldn'tget benefits. on and even JSA is means-tested. if Joan collins was bankrupt, then she would get it, if not, then fine. nohing wrong with means-testing......doh be scrooge-esque, but then it's called a compassionate society, maybe T&T would be better if people paid their way and scrunting even on a $100,000 a month salary was not condoned...

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby eliteauto » March 1st, 2016, 12:28 am

De Dragon wrote:
eliteauto wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
eliteauto wrote:seems the PNM has gotten the closet racists out their closet, they've also gotten some idiot to form a band of merry men, achievement unlocked

PNM groupies, hangers-on, sycophants and sheep would consider this an achievement.............


I agree with you 100%, the minute you understand why I do, you'll better understand politics

Don't patronize me, and try better at the mind games.



you sad yes, can't force a man to think *shrugs*

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby ~Vēġó~ » March 1st, 2016, 3:37 am

best achievement thus far is calling spade ah spade re: monstahs and getting rid of dem 24.....yet to see what next though but hoping for the best as the beings likened by the PM to "hyenas on the plains of Africa" are dealt with....

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 1st, 2016, 5:28 am

eliteauto wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
eliteauto wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
eliteauto wrote:seems the PNM has gotten the closet racists out their closet, they've also gotten some idiot to form a band of merry men, achievement unlocked

PNM groupies, hangers-on, sycophants and sheep would consider this an achievement.............


I agree with you 100%, the minute you understand why I do, you'll better understand politics

Don't patronize me, and try better at the mind games.



you sad yes, can't force a man to think *shrugs*

Go teach philosophy if that is your aim

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby eliteauto » March 1st, 2016, 7:46 am

ok lazy mind

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 1st, 2016, 8:00 am

He will never get your point.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby K74T » March 1st, 2016, 9:19 am

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby zoom rader » March 1st, 2016, 12:03 pm

desifemlove wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
desifemlove wrote:and? why is the notion that those who have more means to pay is wrong?

you keep mentioning the UK, as if you have extensive experience of living there.....well if you do, you'll know that most accept the idea that higher earners pay a higher proportionate share of taxes for ting...... and if it make Kwame able to study and get a good job, or kumarsingh even if he from a poor family, why not?


Yes I have spent a good few years working in the UK and got to learn how their government equally run things for all their citizens . I have especially spoken to young intern, grads, apprentices and older workers . It's amazing how they started off and got funded for education. They are given grants, loans, company sponsorship and even paid to do an apprenticeship skill. Education can cost you nothing in the UK as a citizen through the right channels.

Everyone working person in the UK pays taxes. I think at below £32k you paid 25% over that it's 40% minus personal tax free allowance of £10600.
They pay taxes and get EQUAL BENEFITS regardless of status
.
I read where Joan Collins multi millionaire actor, when she was unemployed still claimed her job seekers allowance (dole) because she paid her taxes.

Here in Trin you are telling some people that they have to pay taxes and not receive benefits that is due to them because they are successful.
These are young ppl, it's their parents that are successful and it's the same ppl that pay taxes.

This new measure by this government is pure racist it is singling out one group of people because they choose education over naming all the parts on a glock and AK 47.


i never said anything different. state where i said people who pay taxes shouldn'tget benefits. on and even JSA is means-tested. if Joan collins was bankrupt, then she would get it, if not, then fine. nohing wrong with means-testing......doh be scrooge-esque, but then it's called a compassionate society, maybe T&T would be better if people paid their way and scrunting even on a $100,000 a month salary was not condoned...


Means testing is bullchit.

We pay taxes and must get EQUAL BENEFITS that we pay for.

There are too many slackers in Trin and it's one set of ppl that know all the parts on an AK47. Hell they don't care about going to school.

Means testing is just racist and an attempt to barr those that choose education over a glock.

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 2nd, 2016, 12:22 am

eliteauto wrote:ok lazy mind

Thanks, but I will not let you or your cohorts dictate how to exercise my mind, especially when to you, exercising it means looking at things from your biased slant. So go ahead with your insults, and ganging up.

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Postby Habit7 » March 2nd, 2016, 12:34 am

So much for acheivements.
'BP tax write-off will weaken T&T 2016 income'*
Published on Mar 1, 2016, 6:45 pm AST
By Aleem Khan


A promised tax write-off for energy giant BP's planned US$1.5 billion capital expenditure in 2016 will mean Government will not be getting much from the country's largest taxpayer, according to Finance Minister Colm Imbert.
And as a result of reduced revenue from the energy sector, Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative (EITI) director Victor Hart foresees Government having to cut expenditure “significantly” from April.
Back from Peru where he was inducted to the global board of directors of EITI last Friday, Hart said in a telephone interview on Saturday: “(Reduced revenue from the energy sector) means, in effect, that Government's receipts of revenue in the Treasury—the income—is going to be substantially reduced and therefore the Government's national budget has, of necessity, to be reduced because the income side is now lower, and that would, of necessity, mean that Government expenditure would have to be re-visited and reduced where possible.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160301 ... 016-income


If only we had elected Kamla :cry: This would have never happen :roll:

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 2nd, 2016, 12:56 am

Habit7 wrote:So much for acheivements.
'BP tax write-off will weaken T&T 2016 income'*
Published on Mar 1, 2016, 6:45 pm AST
By Aleem Khan


A promised tax write-off for energy giant BP's planned US$1.5 billion capital expenditure in 2016 will mean Government will not be getting much from the country's largest taxpayer, according to Finance Minister Colm Imbert.
And as a result of reduced revenue from the energy sector, Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative (EITI) director Victor Hart foresees Government having to cut expenditure “significantly” from April.
Back from Peru where he was inducted to the global board of directors of EITI last Friday, Hart said in a telephone interview on Saturday: “(Reduced revenue from the energy sector) means, in effect, that Government's receipts of revenue in the Treasury—the income—is going to be substantially reduced and therefore the Government's national budget has, of necessity, to be reduced because the income side is now lower, and that would, of necessity, mean that Government expenditure would have to be re-visited and reduced where possible.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160301 ... 016-income


If only we had elected Kamla :cry: This would have never happen :roll:

Yes, continue with that utterly useless lament while the economy goes to hell. All this while we have yet to see/hear how the shortfall is going to be addressed.

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Postby ~Vēġó~ » March 2nd, 2016, 3:10 am

discontinuance with the case against Malcolm Jones....convenient achievement.

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Postby De Dragon » March 2nd, 2016, 4:44 am

~Vēġó~ wrote:discontinuance with the case against Malcolm Jones....convenient achievement.

Marlene "Two Plate" McDonald allegedly approves funding for Calabar foundation of which her husband/man/bull-partner heads, and his brother is also a director, while said foundation is not even registered as an NGO. The funds are for renovation works of the foundation's offices. Problems:
1)Invoices not provided for the funding but a material list :?
2)Against all proper and approved protocol, the cheques are made not to the hardware/contractor/supplier, but to Calabar itself :?
3) According to the Companies' Registry, Calabar's listed address is one and the same of Marlene's husband/man/bull-partner.

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Postby De Dragon » March 2nd, 2016, 4:50 am

Imagine, you hear not one peep from most of these Ministers, choosing instead to hide behind the most uninspiring, unprepared and uninformed Minister of Communications. Then, lo and behold, we have an "urgent" press conference announced by the Minister of Planning. What do we hear? Development plans for Trinidad, Tobago? No, we hear a piss and moan story about closing an account! Said story is so full of contradictions it is ridiculous, proving that sometimes it is just better to say nothing, or at least let one of the PNM spin doctors draft your response.

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Postby RASC » March 2nd, 2016, 6:03 am

hong kong phooey wrote:
toyolink wrote:
Rory Phoulorie wrote:
*KRONIK* wrote:. . . For new properties, the value needs to be assigned by a government valuator. . .

What's all this fuss about property taxes then? Government valuations are always below true market value.

Trinis always complaining about taxes in T&T, but have no issue with paying them when they go faren.

I believe the problem here is the lack of clarity coupled with what appears to be an intention to shift the bench mark values up.
The public has no problem paying "reasonable taxes" and would be concerned about getting caught like what just happened with 12.5% vat promise.


And not only that the money used to buy the property was already taxed.
What if I secured a loan to buy the said property. Property really belongs to the bank. Should the taxes be split such that I pay the percentage I already paid for and the bank pays the rest.
It is unfair that i am taxed on my luxury,
Some people work twice as hard to have what they own.
It should be fair equal amount to each home owner. no on the face value.


Yeah bai 3% of the ATV...can you imagine having to fork out another 1500TT over the course of the year... Thas a whole extra $100+ per month bai... W T F

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Postby Aaron 2NR » March 2nd, 2016, 6:08 am

Habit7 wrote:So much for acheivements.
'BP tax write-off will weaken T&T 2016 income'*
Published on Mar 1, 2016, 6:45 pm AST
By Aleem Khan


A promised tax write-off for energy giant BP's planned US$1.5 billion capital expenditure in 2016 will mean Government will not be getting much from the country's largest taxpayer, according to Finance Minister Colm Imbert.
And as a result of reduced revenue from the energy sector, Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative (EITI) director Victor Hart foresees Government having to cut expenditure “significantly” from April.
Back from Peru where he was inducted to the global board of directors of EITI last Friday, Hart said in a telephone interview on Saturday: “(Reduced revenue from the energy sector) means, in effect, that Government's receipts of revenue in the Treasury—the income—is going to be substantially reduced and therefore the Government's national budget has, of necessity, to be reduced because the income side is now lower, and that would, of necessity, mean that Government expenditure would have to be re-visited and reduced where possible.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160301 ... 016-income


If only we had elected Kamla :cry: This would have never happen :roll:



what utter non-sense.....these write offs are part of a contract for BP to continue their exploration and drilling programs. If Colm included these in his projection for the budget, he's a bigger fool than i thought.... up to now train 4 receiving tax write offs for its investment

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Postby tr1ad » March 2nd, 2016, 6:10 am

Correct these exemptions were agreed to ages ago, in Atlantic case it's over a period of time.
BP is based on revenue so no almighty kamala wouldn't have stopped it

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Re: Government achievement thread.

Postby De Dragon » March 2nd, 2016, 6:30 am

RASC wrote:
hong kong phooey wrote:
toyolink wrote:
Rory Phoulorie wrote:
*KRONIK* wrote:. . . For new properties, the value needs to be assigned by a government valuator. . .

What's all this fuss about property taxes then? Government valuations are always below true market value.

Trinis always complaining about taxes in T&T, but have no issue with paying them when they go faren.

I believe the problem here is the lack of clarity coupled with what appears to be an intention to shift the bench mark values up.
The public has no problem paying "reasonable taxes" and would be concerned about getting caught like what just happened with 12.5% vat promise.


And not only that the money used to buy the property was already taxed.
What if I secured a loan to buy the said property. Property really belongs to the bank. Should the taxes be split such that I pay the percentage I already paid for and the bank pays the rest.
It is unfair that i am taxed on my luxury,
Some people work twice as hard to have what they own.
It should be fair equal amount to each home owner. no on the face value.


Yeah bai 3% of the ATV...can you imagine having to fork out another 1500TT over the course of the year... Thas a whole extra $100+ per month bai... W T F

I think you are (deliberately) missing the point. These lil $10 measures are not going to alleviate the revenue shortfall, not while we continue to press ahead with 90 Million stadium, 21 million one man library, 15 Billion rapid rail etc

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Postby j.o.e » March 2nd, 2016, 7:10 am

^^^^ have you heard anyone speak of moving forward with a rail ?

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Postby zoom rader » March 2nd, 2016, 8:03 am

Aaron 2NR wrote:
Habit7 wrote:So much for acheivements.
'BP tax write-off will weaken T&T 2016 income'*
Published on Mar 1, 2016, 6:45 pm AST
By Aleem Khan


A promised tax write-off for energy giant BP's planned US$1.5 billion capital expenditure in 2016 will mean Government will not be getting much from the country's largest taxpayer, according to Finance Minister Colm Imbert.
And as a result of reduced revenue from the energy sector, Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative (EITI) director Victor Hart foresees Government having to cut expenditure “significantly” from April.
Back from Peru where he was inducted to the global board of directors of EITI last Friday, Hart said in a telephone interview on Saturday: “(Reduced revenue from the energy sector) means, in effect, that Government's receipts of revenue in the Treasury—the income—is going to be substantially reduced and therefore the Government's national budget has, of necessity, to be reduced because the income side is now lower, and that would, of necessity, mean that Government expenditure would have to be re-visited and reduced where possible.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160301 ... 016-income


If only we had elected Kamla :cry: This would have never happen :roll:



what utter non-sense.....these write offs are part of a contract for BP to continue their exploration and drilling programs. If Colm included these in his projection for the budget, he's a bigger fool than i thought.... up to now train 4 receiving tax write offs for its investment


Why bother explaining this to Habit7

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Postby eliteauto » March 2nd, 2016, 9:32 am

De Dragon wrote:
eliteauto wrote:ok lazy mind

Thanks, but I will not let you or your cohorts dictate how to exercise my mind, especially when to you, exercising it means looking at things from your biased slant. So go ahead with your insults, and ganging up.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: you need to stop replying to me, seriously :|

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 2nd, 2016, 9:39 am

Low d man nah. Insecurities are real.

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zoom rader wrote:
Aaron 2NR wrote:
Habit7 wrote:So much for acheivements.
'BP tax write-off will weaken T&T 2016 income'*
Published on Mar 1, 2016, 6:45 pm AST
By Aleem Khan


A promised tax write-off for energy giant BP's planned US$1.5 billion capital expenditure in 2016 will mean Government will not be getting much from the country's largest taxpayer, according to Finance Minister Colm Imbert.
And as a result of reduced revenue from the energy sector, Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative (EITI) director Victor Hart foresees Government having to cut expenditure “significantly” from April.
Back from Peru where he was inducted to the global board of directors of EITI last Friday, Hart said in a telephone interview on Saturday: “(Reduced revenue from the energy sector) means, in effect, that Government's receipts of revenue in the Treasury—the income—is going to be substantially reduced and therefore the Government's national budget has, of necessity, to be reduced because the income side is now lower, and that would, of necessity, mean that Government expenditure would have to be re-visited and reduced where possible.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20160301 ... 016-income


If only we had elected Kamla :cry: This would have never happen :roll:



what utter non-sense.....these write offs are part of a contract for BP to continue their exploration and drilling programs. If Colm included these in his projection for the budget, he's a bigger fool than i thought.... up to now train 4 receiving tax write offs for its investment


Why bother explaining this to Habit7
If you read the article you would see that this is the opinion of an individual, not Colm Imbert. It was meant to show the shrinking of our economy due to the changed tax policy of 2014 when oil was high which allowed for BPTT, our biggest taxpayer, to receive bigger write-offs now. So box drain life cease now, govt achievements should be not going to IMF cap in hand.

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Postby RASC » March 2nd, 2016, 10:42 am

Box Drain govt people now complaining about lack of diverse investments in the country.

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