COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[MaxPower]

Many people are embarrassed to say they got Covid.

[widdyphuck]

Many people are embarrassed to say they vote PNM.

[aaron17]

What they are saying is that the family member and the other family members in the other household are taking precautions so its ok to visit. I know they are taking it seriously otherwise but these new cases and deaths making me uneasy as if the spread manifesting jus so. Seems like a poor excuse.

Any help on this ? I already told them what you all said..consequences and stuff. Seems like they still hard headed and their will is strong.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

What they are saying is that the family member and the other family members in the other household are taking precautions so its ok to visit. I know they are taking it seriously otherwise but these new cases and deaths making me uneasy as if the spread manifesting jus so. Seems like a poor excuse.

Literally everyone saying exactly that.
That they being extra safe and Aunty is a nurse and she knows about this etc etc.
If they were genuinely taking precautions then they would all stay in their house and not even let other households into their bubble.

The idea here is to limit the risk as much as possible. Only do things that are absolutely necessary for life. If it’s not necessary to keep living then don’t do it.
One person going for food items is absolutely necessary. You will die without food. And try to limit the number of times you have to go out for food and pharmacy etc.
Going by your family to visit or them coming by you isn’t absolutely necessary. You will still live if you don’t do that.

[st7]

no surprise the misogynistic c*nt who has little respect for women (groom them like a golf course) would throw blame at the women's anti-abuse movement, along with the waste of time opposition, for causing the spike.

why does he always need to blame someone for every conference because of his and his administration's incompetence ?

guess no one would ever answer that.

[aaron17]

Thanks for the info.

What they are saying is that the family member and the other family members in the other household are taking precautions so its ok to visit. I know they are taking it seriously otherwise but these new cases and deaths making me uneasy as if the spread manifesting jus so. Seems like a poor excuse.

Literally everyone saying exactly that.
That they being extra safe and Aunty is a nurse and she knows about this etc etc.
If they were genuinely taking precautions then they would all stay in their house and not even let other households into their bubble.

The idea here is to limit the risk as much as possible. Only do things that are absolutely necessary for life. If it’s not necessary to keep living then don’t do it.
One person going for food items is absolutely necessary. You will die without food. And try to limit the number of times you have to go out for food and pharmacy etc.
Going by your family to visit or them coming by you isn’t absolutely necessary. You will still live if you don’t do that.

[pugboy]

would a person admit they got covid subsequent to vigils ?

[Redress10]

Steupss...

Some of you all need to make sense. Stop following bs.

It is simple. You can't say that people lining up for fast food on the final day is a super spreader event but thousands of people in a packed carpark didn't spread covid. That is irresponsible.

The vigils did in fact spread covid because it brought thousands of people into close contact with each other. There was also no sanitation in some of these places and remember they were also handing out stuff like paraphernelia. This would have caused contamination and spread.

What day was the last vigil/mass rally?

Jeez. It really isn't rocket science. The vigils were hundreds/thousands of people nightly for weeks. This was a huge super spreader event in the midst of a pandemic.

[pugboy]

don’t forget the motorcades with ppl packed into cars
i highly doubt all the cars were solely persons from single household

[sMASH]

if people admitting they going bars and zessers, i dont see why not. at least the vigils was for a worthy cause.
and i personally saw that there was LITTLE chance for spread there, cause there was very little bunching. the people closer together seemed to be from the same household or they does be eating each other, so they would have spread it to their selves any ways.
again, open air business, no chin strap

[sMASH]

Steupss...

Some of you all need to make sense. Stop following bs.

It is simple. You can't say that people lining up for fast food on the final day is a super spreader event but thousands of people in a packed carpark didn't spread covid. That is irresponsible.

The vigils did in fact spread covid because it brought thousands of people into close contact with each other. There was also no sanitation in some of these places and remember they were also handing out stuff like paraphernelia. This would have caused contamination and spread.

What day was the last vigil/mass rally?

Jeez. It really isn't rocket science. The vigils were hundreds/thousands of people nightly for weeks. This was a huge super spreader event in the midst of a pandemic.

no official contact tracing produced for that, and i dont have covid, not pea, not farris, not kamala. is only rowley get covid and he dont want to say who eh got it from. faris had a contact, but that was from the wedding, not from teh arm wrestling.

[Redress10]

Yup

No chance of spread.











They all wore masks properly he said.

[pugboy]

so what about the cars ?
i find it hard to believe that persons willing to put their head on a block that NO transmission was possible via the vigils

if people admitting they going bars and zessers, i dont see why not. at least the vigils was for a worthy cause.
and i personally saw that there was LITTLE chance for spread there, cause there was very little bunching. the people closer together seemed to be from the same household or they does be eating each other, so they would have spread it to their selves any ways.
again, open air business, no chin strap

[MaxPower]

Team,

Let us not forget how a virus spreads.

We are only looking at the crowds that we observed on social media etc.

Can anyone imagine the amount of car pooling?

Remember, many people only wear their masks and keep their distance etc when they are being watched.

When Narry picking up Raj, Ram and Sita, it is extremely unlikely that these vigils would be following the protocols strictly.

This was also a galavant for many and Covid 19 guidelines were of the least interest to many.

[pugboy]

all them ppl bunched up
cloth mask ain’t helping there
everybody breathing in each other breath
i bet they could smell each other perfume

Yup

No chance of spread.











They all wore masks properly he said.

[Redress10]

so what about the cars ?
i find it hard to believe that persons willing to put their head on a block that NO transmission was possible via the vigils

if people admitting they going bars and zessers, i dont see why not. at least the vigils was for a worthy cause.
and i personally saw that there was LITTLE chance for spread there, cause there was very little bunching. the people closer together seemed to be from the same household or they does be eating each other, so they would have spread it to their selves any ways.
again, open air business, no chin strap

Ask him if all those candles covers etc were brought from home. Ask him about the merchandise and flyers that made their way around the crowds.

[MaxPower]

Vigils starting to get pong all over social media.

[widdyphuck]

First cases of the Brazilian variant detected on 23rd April.
Andrea died on the 29th January.

[sMASH]

and again, outdoor transmission is very very low, spread through physical contact has been revealed to be low. we dont know any one who got it from the vigils. didnt say it was nil, but if they living in the same house, they woudl spread it to each other in any case, even if they pull down they mask in public.
it wasnt kumbaya whole night with strangers.

even the police there didnt see cause to break it up.

while i was there, people had on their masks, wasnt chin strap business. if they did was for brief times.


and i walked through the crowds a few times to get a sense of what going on, the density.



and when u watch the graphs, u dont see any significant rise in cases from the 7 to 14 days after the start to the end. there is a bump, yes. but that was in line wiht normal fluctuations. any signficant rise in cases came from the week before easter, when the new boat had arrived, and being flaunted.

to show how insignficant the cases trends was, the govt began to advertise the tobago staycations, not anticipating any super spreader event from the vigils.

the trends dont show a SIGNIFICANT rise in cases to say it was the cause of any thing.

out door open air business again.

[Habit7]

23 Feb last night of vigil, in what country?

Hundreds launch safety for women petition at PoS vigil

12th was the last night of the vigils. it was supposed to finish on the 13th, but gg say no more permission for the vigils. was there that night had about 4k persons. but spaced out, open air, no chin straps.

the rowley said vigils caused it. vigils finished 12th.

I guess you didn't open my link which clearly shows a vigil on 5th March

Here is one on the 12th March
https://www.cnc3.co.tt/crime-victims-in ... t-meeting/

Plus there were many others that weren't documented.

GG stopped vigils in late March

Griffith bans marches, vigils ahead of holidays
by Rishard Khan
60 days ago
Fri Mar 26 2021

For just about two weeks, Ministry of Health officials have been warning citizens that COVID-19 cases are increasing again and on Wednesday, the country confirmed its largest number of cases for the year.
In light of the rising COVID cases, Griffith yesterday said he will no longer be entertaining any requests by citizens seeking to hold vigils and marches.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/griffit ... 5ff2db9711

So I don't know who gave you that timeline, but don't be so gullible. Corroborate your info before you share it.

[Redress10]

But didn't all of those cases in India begin after OUTDOOR festivals.

Didn't PEA and Inshan put off the motorcade because cases started rising?

You all are starting to sound confused.

[sMASH]

all them ppl bunched up
cloth mask ain’t helping there
everybody breathing in each other breath
i bet they could smell each other perfume

Yup

No chance of spread.











They all wore masks properly he said.

asside from the rain, which woud have been for the actual funeral, those people spaced out... in their little family groups, but not with every body. the small aperture and angle showing them closer together than it was in real.

[widdyphuck]

Details to follow..

[The_Honourable]

Has epidemiologist Dr. Avery Hinds confirmed that the vigils was a super spreader event and caused the uptick? All i'm hearing so far is more political than scientific.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

sMASH you understand how the snowballing works right?
The chart literally shows snowballing.
the R0 of the virus is 1.5 to 2 depending on the strain
So while incubation takes 7 to 14 days not EVERYONE at the vigil or Christmas or Easter or zess or any social events would have contracted it at those events but gatherings increase risk and spread.
When snowballing it starts by getting a few people then spreading for months after - spreading exponentially and eventually getting to the big numbers we have now.

[mero]

all them ppl bunched up
cloth mask ain’t helping there
everybody breathing in each other breath
i bet they could smell each other perfume

Yup

No chance of spread.











They all wore masks properly he said.

asside from the rain, which woud have been for the actual funeral, those people spaced out... in their little family groups, but not with every body. the small aperture and angle showing them closer together than it was in real.

all them ppl bunched up
cloth mask ain’t helping there
everybody breathing in each other breath
i bet they could smell each other perfume

Yup

No chance of spread.











They all wore masks properly he said.

asside from the rain, which woud have been for the actual funeral, those people spaced out... in their little family groups, but not with every body. the small aperture and angle showing them closer together than it was in real.

Is how you know for a fact Carnival 2020 spread covid and you know for a fact the vigils didn't cuz you was there every night and the angles make them look closer than they really was...

[KM_2NR]

A friend said on the news today they said Frontline and government workers getting the AZ while elderly and at risk getting the sino , haven't confirmed it myself tho , can anyone confirm this please? 7 PM news in years

[Gladiator]

sMASH you understand how the snowballing works right?
The chart literally shows snowballing.
the R0 of the virus is 1.5 to 2 depending on the strain
So while incubation takes 7 to 14 days not EVERYONE at the vigil or Christmas or Easter or zess or any social events would have contracted it at those events but gatherings increase risk and spread.
When snowballing it starts by getting a few people then spreading for months after - spreading exponentially and eventually getting to the big numbers we have now.

So Duane, by that logic can we expect to see case numbers in the thousands after the snowballing effect from the Easter weekend when it takes its toll...

[Gem_in_i]

A friend said on the news today they said Frontline and government workers getting the AZ while elderly and at risk getting the sino , haven't confirmed it myself tho , can anyone confirm this please? 7 PM news in years

Yes. They allocated AZ vaccines to Ministries.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

sMASH you understand how the snowballing works right?
The chart literally shows snowballing.
the R0 of the virus is 1.5 to 2 depending on the strain
So while incubation takes 7 to 14 days not EVERYONE at the vigil or Christmas or Easter or zess or any social events would have contracted it at those events but gatherings increase risk and spread.
When snowballing it starts by getting a few people then spreading for months after - spreading exponentially and eventually getting to the big numbers we have now.

So Duane, by that logic can we expect to see case numbers in the thousands after the snowballing effect from the Easter weekend when it takes its toll...

It's a culmination of all the events - one exponential on the other
Can't blame any one event and not the other
The graph shows the result of everything that caused the escalation