COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[Habit7]

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You are agreeing with me. Covid-19 cases are a lag time effect, so right after the vigils, there would be an uptick. Whether you disagree, something happened in late February to mid-March to start the uptick.

The real epidemiologists point to workplaces, places of worship and bar hopping that cause the initial spike in Caroni that spread to the EW corridor and throughout the nation. This was all be before Easter. Easter Weekend didn't help, but the spark was way before that in February and March.

Also while outdoor has low chance of exposure, standing in the same spot surrounded by ppl for an extended period, increases that chance of exposure. And while masks form a barrier to droplet dispersal, simple breathing carries droplets which again over extended periods, in the same spot increases chances for exposure.

If you think vigils are benign, then we could have Carnival with mask on then?

[Habit7]

23 Feb last night of vigil, in what country?

Hundreds launch safety for women petition at PoS vigil

[Dohplaydat]

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You are agreeing with me. Covid-19 cases are a lag time effect, so right after the vigils, there would be an uptick. Whether you disagree, something happened in late February to mid-March to start the uptick.

The real epidemiologists point to workplaces, places of worship and bar hopping that cause the initial spike in Caroni that spread to the EW corridor and throughout the nation. This was all be before Easter. Easter Weekend didn't help, but the spark was way before that in February and March.

Also while outdoor has low chance of exposure, standing in the same spot surrounded by ppl for an extended period, increases that chance of exposure. And while masks form a barrier to droplet dispersal, simple breathing carries droplets which again over extended periods, in the same spot increases chances for exposure.

If you think vigils are benign, then we could have Carnival with mask on then?

Yes we can, but I would advise everyone who participates in Carnival to be vaccinated.

I know the time lines line up. I'm saying that there was no significant change during that period that explains the build up needed to create the wave we have now.

Look at December, far more activity, yet no outbreak.

This almost solely points to a new strain and not necessarily a change in behaviour.

However, a change in behaviour with a dangerous strain leads to what we have now.

[redmanjp]

100 cases a day for our country size isn't good

Tests has been taken over a 6 day period.

it's not 100 a day as more samples from today will be reported tomorrow and the next day ,etc.

[Habit7]

Yea they sticking in that 6 day thing as excuse for the failures. Habit need to get covid for all the crap he spewing.
Right now it's completely out of control and they seems to be out of ideas and can only balme everyone else rather than present a solution to the issue.
The frontlinere are burning out and with the current vaccine rate there is little hope this will end anytiem soon.

Hear what nah. It seems like you have a problem if don't follow like a lemming and say "Rowley tell everybody go Tobago and cause covid-19." I am expressing my point with evidence and fact based on what the independent medical observers say. If you don't like it, close yuh eye.

[aaron17]

I guess u hadda ask all who went on easter lime and vigils if they get covid... sample size.

[Dohplaydat]

Positivity rate is down. Only 10% positivity rate from the new 6200+ new tests done.

Nope that is incorrect.

Firstly, you don't see the results of tests done in the last 24 hours.....those results trickle out over a 5 day period.

This large 6000 (actually 7630) is the private lab tests done over the last 3 days.

This is by far the largest batch received.

Now only. a portion of these are used postivity rate calculations as a subset of the private labs are for persons who arrived with exemptions or persons needing to leave.

Our positivity rate most likely remains the same at 40-50%

Given this huge bulk of cases, i take back my previous prediction that things will get better this week.

They won't, we might be averaging 600 cases a day this week (last week was 500).

[Habit7]

Yes we can, but I would advise everyone who participates in Carnival to be vaccinated.

I know the time lines line up. I'm saying that there was no significant change during that period that explains the build up needed to create the wave we have now.

Look at December, far more activity, yet no outbreak.

This almost solely points to a new strain and not necessarily a change in behaviour.

However, a change in behaviour with a dangerous strain leads to what we have now.

Dont bring in vaccination, if everybody vaccinated we can return to everything like normal.

I asked if vigils are benign, then all we need is a masked Carnival? Yes or no.

Activity is not solely the cause of covid-19 spikes, it is congregating, over long periods of time, with low ventilation. The vigils had ventilation but could we risk it?

[redmanjp]

this guy on FB always gives a summary:

Here's a breakdown of figures update between yesterday (5/24/21) and today (5/25/21) reports from the MOH:
Total persons vaccinated to date: 72120
72120 - 67324 = 4796 done today
1179 in total got the 2nd dose of vaccine so far.
Deaths number - 18 today compared to 15 yesterday. - increase
*Condolences go out to the families
Positive cases recorded - 612 today compared to 250 yesterday. - increase
Active positive cases - 8444 today compared to 8150 yesterday. - increase
Total persons tested for both private and public sector - 173912
173912 - 166282 = 7630 tests done over a 6 day period (19th May to 24th May).
Persons in Hospital - 443 today compared to 455 yesterday. - decrease
today (than yesterday) in ICU and today (than yesterday) in HDU.
*WILL UPDATE WHEN PAGE 2 IS POSTED
Total Recovered patients - 12027 today compared to 11727 yesterday.
Total number of persons discharged - TBA today compared to 58 yesterday. -
State quarantine - 170 today compared to 183 yesterday. - decrease
Step down facilities - 194 today compared to 163 yesterday. - increase
Home self isolation - 7195 today compared to 7282 yesterday. - decrease
Do the right thing by following the public health guidelines.
We saw positive cases increased today.
Let us try and get back to single digits.
Let us be our brothers keeper.
Stay safe everyone.

4796 shots is prety good- still need to ramp up a lil more to maybe 8000

[aaron17]

Is it possible that the deaths rolling over from Sunday since they are reported slowly?

[aaron17]

I feel dman7 always getting corrected. I stand corrected.

[Dohplaydat]

Yea they sticking in that 6 day thing as excuse for the failures. Habit need to get covid for all the crap he spewing.
Right now it's completely out of control and they seems to be out of ideas and can only balme everyone else rather than present a solution to the issue.
The frontlinere are burning out and with the current vaccine rate there is little hope this will end anytiem soon.

Hear what nah. It seems like you have a problem if don't follow like a lemming and say "Rowley tell everybody go Tobago and cause covid-19." I am expressing my point with evidence and fact based on what the independent medical observers say. If you don't like it, close yuh eye.

Habit7,

Let me help you out bro.

Easter in Tobago did not cause this covid spike. What caused it was the P1 strain combined with the simultaneous relaxation and adherence to social distancing and mask-wearing.

Once the P1 strain entered this was bound to happen. Easter merely accelerated this process by a couple weeks.

[widdyphuck]

All that prayers Rowley and we still getting these results.

[Dohplaydat]

Yes we can, but I would advise everyone who participates in Carnival to be vaccinated.

I know the time lines line up. I'm saying that there was no significant change during that period that explains the build up needed to create the wave we have now.

Look at December, far more activity, yet no outbreak.

This almost solely points to a new strain and not necessarily a change in behaviour.

However, a change in behaviour with a dangerous strain leads to what we have now.

Dont bring in vaccination, if everybody vaccinated we can return to everything like normal.

I asked if vigils are benign, then all we need is a masked Carnival? Yes or no.

Activity is not solely the cause of covid-19 spikes, it is congregating, over long periods of time, with low ventilation. The vigils had ventilation but could we risk it?

I'd argue the vigils while risky, were mostly safe given the low levels of covid in the country.

Right now, with the P1, I'd definitely not recommend vigils.

Regards to Carnival, it's very different to those vigils. The vigils were very spaced our (the ones I went to). Not much talking, no shouting, everyone wore masks which was great to see.

[aaron17]

My family members getting sick from staying home and they badly want to go outside. It taking a toll on their mental health. They want to socialize with ppl and want things to go back to normal. They getting rel vex when I tell them they cannot do this and that. I always keep reminding them that they cannot do things normally. They feel like they are essential in which they are not..

[aaron17]

What else can be done if soe and lockdown is the best option and they are not working for this virus? Total lockdown 100%?

[MaxPower]

My family members getting sick from staying home and they badly want to go outside. It taking a toll on their mental health. They want to socialize with ppl and want things to go back to normal. They getting rel vex when I tell them they cannot do this and that. I always keep reminding them that they cannot do things normally. They feel like they are essential in which they are not..

Hello aaron17,

Keep strong and continue to reiterate the importance of staying home. The whole world is affected and exactly what your family members are doing is what we need everyone to do.

Don’t give up on them, let them get angry.

You have to be their rock.

[aaron17]

My family members getting sick from staying home and they badly want to go outside. It taking a toll on their mental health. They want to socialize with ppl and want things to go back to normal. They getting rel vex when I tell them they cannot do this and that. I always keep reminding them that they cannot do things normally. They feel like they are essential in which they are not..

Hello aaron17,

Keep strong and continue to reiterate the importance of staying home. The whole world is affected and exactly what your family members are doing is what we need everyone to do.

Don’t give up on them, let them get angry.

You have to be their rock.

Thanks....we have to be more serious. How can I persuade someone if they want to visit family members like spend long weekend? I am worried.

[daring dragoon]

My family members getting sick from staying home and they badly want to go outside. It taking a toll on their mental health. They want to socialize with ppl and want things to go back to normal. They getting rel vex when I tell them they cannot do this and that. I always keep reminding them that they cannot do things normally. They feel like they are essential in which they are not..

Hello aaron17,

Keep strong and continue to reiterate the importance of staying home. The whole world is affected and exactly what your family members are doing is what we need everyone to do.

Don’t give up on them, let them get angry.

You have to be their rock.

just about 2 weeks again and we should be back out.

[Dohplaydat]

My family members getting sick from staying home and they badly want to go outside. It taking a toll on their mental health. They want to socialize with ppl and want things to go back to normal. They getting rel vex when I tell them they cannot do this and that. I always keep reminding them that they cannot do things normally. They feel like they are essential in which they are not..

Hello aaron17,

Keep strong and continue to reiterate the importance of staying home. The whole world is affected and exactly what your family members are doing is what we need everyone to do.

Don’t give up on them, let them get angry.

You have to be their rock.

just about 2 weeks again and we should be back out.

[Country_Bookie]

My family members getting sick from staying home and they badly want to go outside. It taking a toll on their mental health. They want to socialize with ppl and want things to go back to normal. They getting rel vex when I tell them they cannot do this and that. I always keep reminding them that they cannot do things normally. They feel like they are essential in which they are not..

Hello aaron17,

Keep strong and continue to reiterate the importance of staying home. The whole world is affected and exactly what your family members are doing is what we need everyone to do.

Don’t give up on them, let them get angry.

You have to be their rock.

Thanks....we have to be more serious. How can I persuade someone if they want to visit family members like spend long weekend? I am worried.

This is a difficult situation to deal with. Nothing drives the message home like making it personal to them..... if they know someone who died from covid-19, highlight this and explain that this could happen to them if they don't stay home. Ask them how they'd feel if they end up on a hospital bed suffering for oxygen knowing they could've prevented it. Ask them if the family visit is worth their life.... how would they feel knowing their loved ones lost them because they couldn't follow these guidelines for a few weeks? Sounds drastic but it might be the only way to reach them.

I hear you on the mental health aspect.... it's something a lot of people are struggling with. Maybe all the members of the household can have activities like game night etc to alleviate the stress. If they have big enough yard, do some physical activity outside together and blast some music. Get creative and see what works.

[Dohplaydat]

This is a difficult situation to deal with. Nothing drives the message home like making it personal to them..... if they know someone who died from covid-19, highlight this and explain that this could happen to them if they don't stay home. Ask them how they'd feel if they end up on a hospital bed suffering for oxygen knowing they could've prevented it. Ask them if the family visit is worth their life.... how would they feel knowing their loved ones lost them because they couldn't follow these guidelines for a few weeks? Sounds drastic but it might be the only way to reach them.

I hear you on the mental health aspect.... it's something a lot of people are struggling with. Maybe all the members of the household can have activities like game night etc to alleviate the stress. If they have big enough yard, do some physical activity outside together and blast some music. Get creative and see what works.

You'd think so, my mom sister and husband in Grande know 3 people who have died from covid. That hasn't stopped them from galavanting all over the place.

Them old people is some of the worse. And is always one setta excuse from them.

I think many of them know they gonna die soon and don't care if it's covid that takes them.

[MaxPower]

My family members getting sick from staying home and they badly want to go outside. It taking a toll on their mental health. They want to socialize with ppl and want things to go back to normal. They getting rel vex when I tell them they cannot do this and that. I always keep reminding them that they cannot do things normally. They feel like they are essential in which they are not..

Hello aaron17,

Keep strong and continue to reiterate the importance of staying home. The whole world is affected and exactly what your family members are doing is what we need everyone to do.

Don’t give up on them, let them get angry.

You have to be their rock.

Thanks....we have to be more serious. How can I persuade someone if they want to visit family members like spend long weekend? I am worried.

Long weekend is a no no, stand firm with that.

What i can suggest, and i myself have done, is take the family members for a drive by the other family members and have some conversations with the front gate in between. It does not have to be for long, but you can at least get them out the house for a bit and a quick safe conversation with loved ones can go a long way.

Its okay to be worried bro, we all are. I have my mini marts that i run everyday and my heart races every every single time i set foot in one of them. But Covid is constantly on my mind and tell myself that everyone around me has Covid and everything i touch is contaminated. That’s the thinking i’m in.

These are the times bro.

[aaron17]

My family members getting sick from staying home and they badly want to go outside. It taking a toll on their mental health. They want to socialize with ppl and want things to go back to normal. They getting rel vex when I tell them they cannot do this and that. I always keep reminding them that they cannot do things normally. They feel like they are essential in which they are not..

Hello aaron17,

Keep strong and continue to reiterate the importance of staying home. The whole world is affected and exactly what your family members are doing is what we need everyone to do.

Don’t give up on them, let them get angry.

You have to be their rock.

Thanks....we have to be more serious. How can I persuade someone if they want to visit family members like spend long weekend? I am worried.

This is a difficult situation to deal with. Nothing drives the message home like making it personal to them..... if they know someone who died from covid-19, highlight this and explain that this could happen to them if they don't stay home. Ask them how they'd feel if they end up on a hospital bed suffering for oxygen knowing they could've prevented it. Ask them if the family visit is worth their life.... how would they feel knowing their loved ones lost them because they couldn't follow these guidelines for a few weeks? Sounds drastic but it might be the only way to reach them.

I hear you on the mental health aspect.... it's something a lot of people are struggling with. Maybe all the members of the household can have activities like game night etc to alleviate the stress. If they have big enough yard, do some physical activity outside together and blast some music. Get creative and see what works.

I give my dad netflix this week. I hope he chill lol

[aaron17]

My family members getting sick from staying home and they badly want to go outside. It taking a toll on their mental health. They want to socialize with ppl and want things to go back to normal. They getting rel vex when I tell them they cannot do this and that. I always keep reminding them that they cannot do things normally. They feel like they are essential in which they are not..

Hello aaron17,

Keep strong and continue to reiterate the importance of staying home. The whole world is affected and exactly what your family members are doing is what we need everyone to do.

Don’t give up on them, let them get angry.

You have to be their rock.

Thanks....we have to be more serious. How can I persuade someone if they want to visit family members like spend long weekend? I am worried.

Long weekend is a no no, stand firm with that.

What i can suggest, and i myself have done, is take the family members for a drive by the other family members and have some conversations with the front gate in between. It does not have to be for long, but you can at least get them out the house for a bit and a quick safe conversation with loved ones can go a long way.

Its okay to be worried bro, we all are. I have my mini marts that i run everyday and my heart races every every single time i set foot in one of them. But Covid is constantly on my mind and tell myself that everyone around me has Covid and everything i touch is contaminated. That’s the thinking i’m in.

These are the times bro.

Thanks for the enlightenment.

[aaron17]

What they are saying is that the family member and the other family members in the other household are taking precautions so its ok to visit. I know they are taking it seriously otherwise but these new cases and deaths making me uneasy as if the spread manifesting jus so. Seems like a poor excuse.

[sMASH]

23 Feb last night of vigil, in what country?

Hundreds launch safety for women petition at PoS vigil

12th was the last night of the vigils. it was supposed to finish on the 13th, but gg say no more permission for the vigils. was there that night had about 4k persons. but spaced out, open air, no chin straps.

the rowley said vigils caused it. vigils finished 12th.

[sMASH]

I guess u hadda ask all who went on easter lime and vigils if they get covid... sample size.

no one at the vigils know any one that got covid. they sent out a msg for any one who attended if they got covid to say, but no response just yet.

the last night was around 4k, and from the pics, the preceding nights were between 1 and 2 k. gathered..

[CB Style]

I guess u hadda ask all who went on easter lime and vigils if they get covid... sample size.

no one at the vigils know any one that got covid. they sent out a msg for any one who attended if they got covid to say, but no response just yet.

the last night was around 4k, and from the pics, the preceding nights were between 1 and 2 k. gathered..

Listen, King Bobolee has to tell his sheep’s something and blaming it on the Vigil was it. He was starting to lose some confidence from not only people who knows that the borders were not secured and Easter weekend was a super spreader but even some of the Sycophants as well were starting to question them. So why not blame it on the Vigils and shut that down one time?
Sheep’s like Habit7 and the rest of the PNM Woman’s league would be content with that lie and gain back confidence in our Commander.

[goalpost]

Driving thru Charlotte Street on Saturday morning after a job, and the street littered predominantly with elderly people just walking, most of them wearing chin straps. I wondering where d hell dem going 8am in the morning.