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jhonnieblue wrote:Habit is a PNM stooge that just trying to save face, prob a fat idiot that go dead if he get covid too.Fact is real people went bago with the virus and had fetes limes parties etc and virus spread. Anyone who think otherwise is an idiot.
he was the owner of radaa body kits/rorotimelapse wrote:That dude was a tuner?
adnj wrote:"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."novastar1 wrote:Redress10 wrote:novastar1 wrote:cornfused wrote:While we need to do more vaccination we can only
vaccinate when we have the medicine. Throwing up a line chart with other vaccination rates in the Caribbean says very little. .
We have not been getting much vaccines as our neighbours. Not nearly , one reason is that we generally had this well managed
nd other other countries were in crisis. Covax did not see us a a priority.
Any one can remember our first vaccines were a gift from Barbados 2,000
Covax didn't see us as a priority?
Where did you get this info?
Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.
So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.
So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?
Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152
Exactly.cornfused wrote:jhonnieblue wrote:Habit is a PNM stooge that just trying to save face, prob a fat idiot that go dead if he get covid too.Fact is real people went bago with the virus and had fetes limes parties etc and virus spread. Anyone who think otherwise is an idiot.
This sir is the truth quite similar to the festive attitudes that continue to fuel this virus worldwide.
India is one of the largest pharmaceutical manufacturers by country., sadly it's in a crisis of apocalyptic portions there.
They recovered from Covid, only to die of 'black fungus.'cornfused wrote:jhonnieblue wrote:Habit is a PNM stooge that just trying to save face, prob a fat idiot that go dead if he get covid too.Fact is real people went bago with the virus and had fetes limes parties etc and virus spread. Anyone who think otherwise is an idiot.
This sir is the truth quite similar to the festive attitudes that continue to fuel this virus worldwide.
India is one of the largest pharmaceutical manufacturers by country., sadly it's in a crisis of apocalyptic portions there.
novastar1 wrote:adnj wrote:"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."novastar1 wrote:Redress10 wrote:novastar1 wrote:cornfused wrote:While we need to do more vaccination we can only
vaccinate when we have the medicine. Throwing up a line chart with other vaccination rates in the Caribbean says very little. .
We have not been getting much vaccines as our neighbours. Not nearly , one reason is that we generally had this well managed
nd other other countries were in crisis. Covax did not see us a a priority.
Any one can remember our first vaccines were a gift from Barbados 2,000
Covax didn't see us as a priority?
Where did you get this info?
Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.
So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.
So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?
Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152
I guess you didn't see my other post.....
I meant covax isn't the only source
We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us
adnj wrote:novastar1 wrote:adnj wrote:"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."novastar1 wrote:Redress10 wrote:novastar1 wrote:cornfused wrote:While we need to do more vaccination we can only
vaccinate when we have the medicine. Throwing up a line chart with other vaccination rates in the Caribbean says very little. .
We have not been getting much vaccines as our neighbours. Not nearly , one reason is that we generally had this well managed
nd other other countries were in crisis. Covax did not see us a a priority.
Any one can remember our first vaccines were a gift from Barbados 2,000
Covax didn't see us as a priority?
Where did you get this info?
Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.
So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.
So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?
Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152
I guess you didn't see my other post.....
I meant covax isn't the only source
We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us
Barbados and TTO both received two tranches of 33,600 doses of vaccine from COVAX within days of each other. Barbados received a donation of 100,000 doses of Ox/AZ from India in March. TTO received a donation of 100,000 doses of Sinopharm in May.
TTO has a population 4.75 times larger than Barbados.
Barbados had a confirmed infection rate was 40% higher and that peaked four months earlier than the current TTO spike.
Barbados and TTO received aporoximately the same number of vaccines but TTO received the bulk 2 months later.
Sinopharm recommends 3 weeks between doses. Ox/AZ recommends 4 to 12 weeks.
The current number of first doses is 64,639, second doses is 1,179.
Vaccines have not been in TTO long enough to satisfy the time lag necessary to give the second dose.
jhonnieblue wrote:Habit is a PNM stooge that just trying to save face, prob a fat idiot that go dead if he get covid too.
Fact is real people went bago with the virus and had fetes limes parties etc and virus spread. Anyone who think otherwise is an idiot.
There is no special covid-19 that attacks you in Tobago. Whether the PM tells you go Tobago, work, grocery, candlelight vigil or your home, it is your responsibility to practise the protocols. At that time we had the freedom to go anywhere but because some didn't follow the protocols it had to be curtailed. To focus on Tobago and not the gatherings that preceded before is having an agenda. It is not science.wtf wrote:Exactly.
Last time I checked the CMO advises the government who then advises the population.
So If the CMO "warn" the population and then Rowley say go Tobago whose advise takes precedence?
The CMO has no "legal" authority to advise the population as he well wants. His job is to advise the government.
If the CMO decides to advise the population and make changes to livelihood as he well wants then HE will become the government.
novastar1 wrote:adnj wrote:novastar1 wrote:adnj wrote:"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."novastar1 wrote:Redress10 wrote:novastar1 wrote:cornfused wrote:While we need to do more vaccination we can only
vaccinate when we have the medicine. Throwing up a line chart with other vaccination rates in the Caribbean says very little. .
We have not been getting much vaccines as our neighbours. Not nearly , one reason is that we generally had this well managed
nd other other countries were in crisis. Covax did not see us a a priority.
Any one can remember our first vaccines were a gift from Barbados 2,000
Covax didn't see us as a priority?
Where did you get this info?
Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.
So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.
So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?
Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152
I guess you didn't see my other post.....
I meant covax isn't the only source
We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us
Barbados and TTO both received two tranches of 33,600 doses of vaccine from COVAX within days of each other. Barbados received a donation of 100,000 doses of Ox/AZ from India in March. TTO received a donation of 100,000 doses of Sinopharm in May.
TTO has a population 4.75 times larger than Barbados.
Barbados had a confirmed infection rate was 40% higher and that peaked four months earlier than the current TTO spike.
Barbados and TTO received aporoximately the same number of vaccines but TTO received the bulk 2 months later.
Sinopharm recommends 3 weeks between doses. Ox/AZ recommends 4 to 12 weeks.
The current number of first doses is 64,639, second doses is 1,179.
Vaccines have not been in TTO long enough to satisfy the time lag necessary to give the second dose.
So are you trying to say we are doing ok to you?
Given that are are last in the region?
Nothing could have been done differently?
Every other country just sat back and "received" vaccines right?
Every other Caribbean country seemed to have exhausted all avenues to get their population vaccinated
We should just be content with our place at the bottom and count the numbers every day I guess
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-vaccines
wtf wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Habit7 wrote:wtf wrote:Vigils were not the cause to the current situation we are in.
The foolish prime Minister went against the advice received from the CMO and told everyone to go to Tobago and they did.
Now CMO saying he told the government and Rowley saying it's our fault.
Well as the saying goes, Who live live and who dead dead.
The CMO never said he warned the Govt and they didn't heed. He said he warned you and you didn't heed.
“We voiced that concern to the population to try to start the beginning of people having the behaviour that they would have had for the best part of November to March 2021, to really get people back on track,” he said.
https://guardian.co.tt/news/cmo--no-one ... 6a40ed8292
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Habit7 wrote:jhonnieblue wrote:Habit is a PNM stooge that just trying to save face, prob a fat idiot that go dead if he get covid too.
Fact is real people went bago with the virus and had fetes limes parties etc and virus spread. Anyone who think otherwise is an idiot.
How about you don't be an idiot and discuss the facts that I laid out. The spike started in March in County Caroni according to the CMO https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/03/doctor ... in-caroni/
It spread to County Victoria and other counties https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/upsurg ... ty-caroni/
While 25K went to Tobago including me, Trinidad beaches looked much more packed than Store Bay or Pigeon Pt when I saw the news.
The spike started before Easter and with kids home and a long weekend ppl limed not just in Tobago but throughout the country. Anybody can look at a graph at the rise in cases is consistent with an exponential growth from the start of March. Easter Weekend was too late to say our spike was from then.
That is not PNM or UNC, that is plain facts.There is no special covid-19 that attacks you in Tobago. Whether the PM tells you go Tobago, work, grocery, candlelight vigil or your home, it is your responsibility to practise the protocols. At that time we had the freedom to go anywhere but because some didn't follow the protocols it had to be curtailed. To focus on Tobago and not the gatherings that preceded before is having an agenda. It is not science.wtf wrote:Exactly.
Last time I checked the CMO advises the government who then advises the population.
So If the CMO "warn" the population and then Rowley say go Tobago whose advise takes precedence?
The CMO has no "legal" authority to advise the population as he well wants. His job is to advise the government.
If the CMO decides to advise the population and make changes to livelihood as he well wants then HE will become the government.
Gladiator wrote:Habit7 wrote:wtf wrote:Vigils were not the cause to the current situation we are in.
The foolish prime Minister went against the advice received from the CMO and told everyone to go to Tobago and they did.
Now CMO saying he told the government and Rowley saying it's our fault.
Well as the saying goes, Who live live and who dead dead.
The CMO never said he warned the Govt and they didn't heed. He said he warned you and you didn't heed.
“We voiced that concern to the population to try to start the beginning of people having the behaviour that they would have had for the best part of November to March 2021, to really get people back on track,” he said.
https://guardian.co.tt/news/cmo--no-one ... 6a40ed8292
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This is PNM propaganda and bull$hit to try and back pedal on the Easter Spike.... You trying hard to clean up Rowley caca Mr. Snuggle but Tuners smarter than that!!!
I believe that you just got me confused with somebody else.Dohplaydat wrote:
Fact is obvious to all except Habit7 that Trinidad and Tobago has done POORLY in vaccine acquisition.
Our target of 10% fully vaccinated by the end of August is quite pathetic as many in the Caribbean have already surpassed that, and by August 1st many including Jamaica and Guyana would have reached between 20-30% fully vaccinated.
redmanjp wrote:the CMO did warn about it in march. the PM waited too long to take action
novastar1 wrote:adnj wrote:novastar1 wrote:adnj wrote:"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."novastar1 wrote:Redress10 wrote:novastar1 wrote:cornfused wrote:While we need to do more vaccination we can only
vaccinate when we have the medicine. Throwing up a line chart with other vaccination rates in the Caribbean says very little. .
We have not been getting much vaccines as our neighbours. Not nearly , one reason is that we generally had this well managed
nd other other countries were in crisis. Covax did not see us a a priority.
Any one can remember our first vaccines were a gift from Barbados 2,000
Covax didn't see us as a priority?
Where did you get this info?
Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.
So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.
So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?
Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152
I guess you didn't see my other post.....
I meant covax isn't the only source
We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us
Barbados and TTO both received two tranches of 33,600 doses of vaccine from COVAX within days of each other. Barbados received a donation of 100,000 doses of Ox/AZ from India in March. TTO received a donation of 100,000 doses of Sinopharm in May.
TTO has a population 4.75 times larger than Barbados.
Barbados had a confirmed infection rate was 40% higher and that peaked four months earlier than the current TTO spike.
Barbados and TTO received aporoximately the same number of vaccines but TTO received the bulk 2 months later.
Sinopharm recommends 3 weeks between doses. Ox/AZ recommends 4 to 12 weeks.
The current number of first doses is 64,639, second doses is 1,179.
Vaccines have not been in TTO long enough to satisfy the time lag necessary to give the second dose.
So are you trying to say we are doing ok to you?
Given that are are last in the region?
Nothing could have been done differently?
Every other country just sat back and "received" vaccines right?
Every other Caribbean country seemed to have exhausted all avenues to get their population vaccinated
We should just be content with our place at the bottom and count the numbers every day I guess
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-vaccines
redmanjp wrote:i think we should give the AZ shot to as many ppl as possible instead of reserving half for the 2nd shot as data gives it a 76-80% efficacy with just 1 shot, just about the same as 2 shots of sinopharm
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