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Postby cornfused » May 23rd, 2021, 9:26 am

jhonnieblue wrote:Habit is a PNM stooge that just trying to save face, prob a fat idiot that go dead if he get covid too.
Fact is real people went bago with the virus and had fetes limes parties etc and virus spread. Anyone who think otherwise is an idiot.


This sir is the truth quite similar to the festive attitudes that continue to fuel this virus worldwide.

India is one of the largest pharmaceutical manufacturers by country., sadly it's in a crisis of apocalyptic portions there.

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Postby novastar1 » May 23rd, 2021, 9:31 am

adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
cornfused wrote:While we need to do more vaccination we can only

vaccinate when we have the medicine. Throwing up a line chart with other vaccination rates in the Caribbean says very little. .

We have not been getting much vaccines as our neighbours. Not nearly , one reason is that we generally had this well managed
nd other other countries were in crisis. Covax did not see us a a priority.

Any one can remember our first vaccines were a gift from Barbados 2,000



Covax didn't see us as a priority?

Where did you get this info?


Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.

So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.


So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?


Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."

https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152


I guess you didn't see my other post.....


I meant covax isn't the only source

We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us

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Postby aaron17 » May 23rd, 2021, 9:32 am

Its a combination of everything.

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Postby widdyphuck » May 23rd, 2021, 9:33 am

cornfused wrote:
jhonnieblue wrote:Habit is a PNM stooge that just trying to save face, prob a fat idiot that go dead if he get covid too.
Fact is real people went bago with the virus and had fetes limes parties etc and virus spread. Anyone who think otherwise is an idiot.


This sir is the truth quite similar to the festive attitudes that continue to fuel this virus worldwide.

India is one of the largest pharmaceutical manufacturers by country., sadly it's in a crisis of apocalyptic portions there.
Exactly.
Last time I checked the CMO advises the government who then advises the population.
So If the CMO "warn" the population and then Rowley say go Tobago whose advise takes precedence?

The CMO has no "legal" authority to advise the population as he well wants. His job is to advise the government.
If the CMO decides to advise the population and make changes to livelihood as he well wants then HE will become the government.
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Postby killercow » May 23rd, 2021, 9:35 am

cornfused wrote:
jhonnieblue wrote:Habit is a PNM stooge that just trying to save face, prob a fat idiot that go dead if he get covid too.
Fact is real people went bago with the virus and had fetes limes parties etc and virus spread. Anyone who think otherwise is an idiot.


This sir is the truth quite similar to the festive attitudes that continue to fuel this virus worldwide.

India is one of the largest pharmaceutical manufacturers by country., sadly it's in a crisis of apocalyptic portions there.
They recovered from Covid, only to die of 'black fungus.'

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/21/india/black-fungus-mucormycosis-covid-explainer-intl-hnk/index.html

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Postby adnj » May 23rd, 2021, 10:34 am

novastar1 wrote:
adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
cornfused wrote:While we need to do more vaccination we can only

vaccinate when we have the medicine. Throwing up a line chart with other vaccination rates in the Caribbean says very little. .

We have not been getting much vaccines as our neighbours. Not nearly , one reason is that we generally had this well managed
nd other other countries were in crisis. Covax did not see us a a priority.

Any one can remember our first vaccines were a gift from Barbados 2,000



Covax didn't see us as a priority?

Where did you get this info?


Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.

So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.


So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?


Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."

https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152


I guess you didn't see my other post.....


I meant covax isn't the only source

We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us


Barbados and TTO both received two tranches of 33,600 doses of vaccine from COVAX within days of each other. Barbados received a donation of 100,000 doses of Ox/AZ from India in March. TTO received a donation of 100,000 doses of Sinopharm in May.

TTO has a population 4.75 times larger than Barbados.
Barbados had a confirmed infection rate that was 40% higher and that peaked four months earlier than the current TTO spike.

Barbados and TTO received aporoximately the same number of vaccines but TTO received the bulk 2 months later.

Sinopharm recommends 3 weeks between doses. Ox/AZ recommends 4 to 12 weeks.

The current number of first doses is 64,639, second doses is 1,179.

Vaccines have not been in TTO long enough to satisfy the time lag necessary to give the second dose.Image
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Postby widdyphuck » May 23rd, 2021, 10:43 am

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Postby novastar1 » May 23rd, 2021, 10:45 am

adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
cornfused wrote:While we need to do more vaccination we can only

vaccinate when we have the medicine. Throwing up a line chart with other vaccination rates in the Caribbean says very little. .

We have not been getting much vaccines as our neighbours. Not nearly , one reason is that we generally had this well managed
nd other other countries were in crisis. Covax did not see us a a priority.

Any one can remember our first vaccines were a gift from Barbados 2,000



Covax didn't see us as a priority?

Where did you get this info?


Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.

So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.


So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?


Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."

https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152


I guess you didn't see my other post.....


I meant covax isn't the only source

We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us


Barbados and TTO both received two tranches of 33,600 doses of vaccine from COVAX within days of each other. Barbados received a donation of 100,000 doses of Ox/AZ from India in March. TTO received a donation of 100,000 doses of Sinopharm in May.

TTO has a population 4.75 times larger than Barbados.
Barbados had a confirmed infection rate was 40% higher and that peaked four months earlier than the current TTO spike.

Barbados and TTO received aporoximately the same number of vaccines but TTO received the bulk 2 months later.

Sinopharm recommends 3 weeks between doses. Ox/AZ recommends 4 to 12 weeks.

The current number of first doses is 64,639, second doses is 1,179.

Vaccines have not been in TTO long enough to satisfy the time lag necessary to give the second dose.Image



So are you trying to say we are doing ok to you?
Given that are are last in the region?
Nothing could have been done differently?

Every other country just sat back and "received" vaccines right?
Every other Caribbean country seemed to have exhausted all avenues to get their population vaccinated

We should just be content with our place at the bottom and count the numbers every day I guess


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-vaccines

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Postby Dave » May 23rd, 2021, 11:03 am

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Postby Habit7 » May 23rd, 2021, 11:25 am

jhonnieblue wrote:Habit is a PNM stooge that just trying to save face, prob a fat idiot that go dead if he get covid too.
Fact is real people went bago with the virus and had fetes limes parties etc and virus spread. Anyone who think otherwise is an idiot.

How about you don't be an idiot and discuss the facts that I laid out. The spike started in March in County Caroni according to the CMO https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/03/doctor ... in-caroni/
It spread to County Victoria and other counties https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/upsurg ... ty-caroni/
While 25K went to Tobago including me, Trinidad beaches looked much more packed than Store Bay or Pigeon Pt when I saw the news.

The spike started before Easter and with kids home and a long weekend ppl limed not just in Tobago but throughout the country. Anybody can look at a graph at the rise in cases is consistent with an exponential growth from the start of March. Easter Weekend was too late to say our spike was from then.

That is not PNM or UNC, that is plain facts.
wtf wrote:Exactly.
Last time I checked the CMO advises the government who then advises the population.
So If the CMO "warn" the population and then Rowley say go Tobago whose advise takes precedence?

The CMO has no "legal" authority to advise the population as he well wants. His job is to advise the government.
If the CMO decides to advise the population and make changes to livelihood as he well wants then HE will become the government.
There is no special covid-19 that attacks you in Tobago. Whether the PM tells you go Tobago, work, grocery, candlelight vigil or your home, it is your responsibility to practise the protocols. At that time we had the freedom to go anywhere but because some didn't follow the protocols it had to be curtailed. To focus on Tobago and not the gatherings that preceded before is having an agenda. It is not science.

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Postby pugboy » May 23rd, 2021, 11:59 am

how about we stick to the thread and cut the wind up toy responses

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Postby adnj » May 23rd, 2021, 1:03 pm

novastar1 wrote:
adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
cornfused wrote:While we need to do more vaccination we can only

vaccinate when we have the medicine. Throwing up a line chart with other vaccination rates in the Caribbean says very little. .

We have not been getting much vaccines as our neighbours. Not nearly , one reason is that we generally had this well managed
nd other other countries were in crisis. Covax did not see us a a priority.

Any one can remember our first vaccines were a gift from Barbados 2,000



Covax didn't see us as a priority?

Where did you get this info?


Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.

So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.


So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?


Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."

https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152


I guess you didn't see my other post.....


I meant covax isn't the only source

We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us


Barbados and TTO both received two tranches of 33,600 doses of vaccine from COVAX within days of each other. Barbados received a donation of 100,000 doses of Ox/AZ from India in March. TTO received a donation of 100,000 doses of Sinopharm in May.

TTO has a population 4.75 times larger than Barbados.
Barbados had a confirmed infection rate was 40% higher and that peaked four months earlier than the current TTO spike.

Barbados and TTO received aporoximately the same number of vaccines but TTO received the bulk 2 months later.

Sinopharm recommends 3 weeks between doses. Ox/AZ recommends 4 to 12 weeks.

The current number of first doses is 64,639, second doses is 1,179.

Vaccines have not been in TTO long enough to satisfy the time lag necessary to give the second dose.Image



So are you trying to say we are doing ok to you?
Given that are are last in the region?
Nothing could have been done differently?

Every other country just sat back and "received" vaccines right?
Every other Caribbean country seemed to have exhausted all avenues to get their population vaccinated

We should just be content with our place at the bottom and count the numbers every day I guess


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-vaccines


You just went off on a tangent.

You keep asking. I keep answering with irrefutable fact. Now you want to segue off into opinion.

If you just want to jump out there and talk about how your pride as a citizen is diminished or how you want to vote people out of office, have at it.

Or you can just walk outside at 10 pm tonight with no mask on and find someone that gives a sh!t.

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Postby aaron17 » May 23rd, 2021, 1:11 pm

Well yes

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Postby solarkh » May 23rd, 2021, 2:04 pm

wtf wrote:
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The boss himself.

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Postby pugboy » May 23rd, 2021, 2:25 pm

that was before manning and calder hart start to blow money left right and center

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Postby Dohplaydat » May 23rd, 2021, 2:31 pm

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18 cases in Tobago is equivalent to Trinidad having 500 cases. when adjusted for population.

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Postby Gladiator » May 23rd, 2021, 2:32 pm

Habit7 wrote:
wtf wrote:Vigils were not the cause to the current situation we are in.
The foolish prime Minister went against the advice received from the CMO and told everyone to go to Tobago and they did.
Now CMO saying he told the government and Rowley saying it's our fault.

Well as the saying goes, Who live live and who dead dead.

The CMO never said he warned the Govt and they didn't heed. He said he warned you and you didn't heed.

“We voiced that concern to the population to try to start the beginning of people having the behaviour that they would have had for the best part of November to March 2021, to really get people back on track,” he said.
https://guardian.co.tt/news/cmo--no-one ... 6a40ed8292

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This is PNM propaganda and bull$hit to try and back pedal on the Easter Spike.... You trying hard to clean up Rowley caca Mr. Snuggle but Tuners smarter than that!!!

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Postby Gladiator » May 23rd, 2021, 2:37 pm

Habit7 wrote:
jhonnieblue wrote:Habit is a PNM stooge that just trying to save face, prob a fat idiot that go dead if he get covid too.
Fact is real people went bago with the virus and had fetes limes parties etc and virus spread. Anyone who think otherwise is an idiot.

How about you don't be an idiot and discuss the facts that I laid out. The spike started in March in County Caroni according to the CMO https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/03/doctor ... in-caroni/
It spread to County Victoria and other counties https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/upsurg ... ty-caroni/
While 25K went to Tobago including me, Trinidad beaches looked much more packed than Store Bay or Pigeon Pt when I saw the news.

The spike started before Easter and with kids home and a long weekend ppl limed not just in Tobago but throughout the country. Anybody can look at a graph at the rise in cases is consistent with an exponential growth from the start of March. Easter Weekend was too late to say our spike was from then.

That is not PNM or UNC, that is plain facts.
wtf wrote:Exactly.
Last time I checked the CMO advises the government who then advises the population.
So If the CMO "warn" the population and then Rowley say go Tobago whose advise takes precedence?

The CMO has no "legal" authority to advise the population as he well wants. His job is to advise the government.
If the CMO decides to advise the population and make changes to livelihood as he well wants then HE will become the government.
There is no special covid-19 that attacks you in Tobago. Whether the PM tells you go Tobago, work, grocery, candlelight vigil or your home, it is your responsibility to practise the protocols. At that time we had the freedom to go anywhere but because some didn't follow the protocols it had to be curtailed. To focus on Tobago and not the gatherings that preceded before is having an agenda. It is not science.


Yeah PNM stooge, try to defend you leader's bull$hit. When you lime in tobago you drinking, limimg, smoking some legal weed and will spread COVID. When you in the fakin grocery, candle light vigil and home you not behaving like that.... go take a copybook page. Call Hinds and get some material, concoct a story and come back tomorrow...

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Postby Dohplaydat » May 23rd, 2021, 2:39 pm

adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
novastar1 wrote:

Covax didn't see us as a priority?

Where did you get this info?


Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.

So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.


So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?


Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."

https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152


I guess you didn't see my other post.....


I meant covax isn't the only source

We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us


Barbados and TTO both received two tranches of 33,600 doses of vaccine from COVAX within days of each other. Barbados received a donation of 100,000 doses of Ox/AZ from India in March. TTO received a donation of 100,000 doses of Sinopharm in May.

TTO has a population 4.75 times larger than Barbados.
Barbados had a confirmed infection rate was 40% higher and that peaked four months earlier than the current TTO spike.

Barbados and TTO received aporoximately the same number of vaccines but TTO received the bulk 2 months later.

Sinopharm recommends 3 weeks between doses. Ox/AZ recommends 4 to 12 weeks.

The current number of first doses is 64,639, second doses is 1,179.

Vaccines have not been in TTO long enough to satisfy the time lag necessary to give the second dose.Image



So are you trying to say we are doing ok to you?
Given that are are last in the region?
Nothing could have been done differently?

Every other country just sat back and "received" vaccines right?
Every other Caribbean country seemed to have exhausted all avenues to get their population vaccinated

We should just be content with our place at the bottom and count the numbers every day I guess


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-vaccines


You just went off on a tangent.

You keep asking. I keep answering with irrefutable fact. Now you want to segue off into opinion.

If you just want to jump out there and talk about how your pride as a citizen is diminished or how you want to vote people out of office, have at it.

Or you can just walk outside at 10 pm tonight with no mask on and find someone that gives a sh!t.


Fact is obvious to all except Habit7 that Trinidad and Tobago has done POORLY in vaccine acquisition.

Our target of 10% fully vaccinated by the end of August is quite pathetic as many in the Caribbean have already surpassed that, and by August 1st many including Jamaica and Guyana would have reached between 20-30% fully vaccinated.

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Postby Dohplaydat » May 23rd, 2021, 2:47 pm

Gladiator wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
wtf wrote:Vigils were not the cause to the current situation we are in.
The foolish prime Minister went against the advice received from the CMO and told everyone to go to Tobago and they did.
Now CMO saying he told the government and Rowley saying it's our fault.

Well as the saying goes, Who live live and who dead dead.

The CMO never said he warned the Govt and they didn't heed. He said he warned you and you didn't heed.

“We voiced that concern to the population to try to start the beginning of people having the behaviour that they would have had for the best part of November to March 2021, to really get people back on track,” he said.
https://guardian.co.tt/news/cmo--no-one ... 6a40ed8292

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This is PNM propaganda and bull$hit to try and back pedal on the Easter Spike.... You trying hard to clean up Rowley caca Mr. Snuggle but Tuners smarter than that!!!


Honestly, having been to a few of those protests and vigils, I really doubt they contributed to the spike at all. All were outdoors, wearing masks, rarely any loud talking or shouting. Lots of reminders of covid-19 protocols by those who organized it as well.

And secondly, literally, all these persons in attendance were also working daily in offices without masks, something much riskier and something hundreds of thousands of persons were doing daily for months.

Attributing the spike to those marches is being disingenuous, fallacious, and apportioning blame onto the people yet again.

The blame lies squarely with officials who encouraged lackadaisical adherence to covid regulations (Faris), Ministry of Health officials who saw the early signs of a spike and sat on their asses for a whole month before taking any action and National Security for failing to do anything more to secure our borders knowing fully well how much more contagious the P1 strain was.

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Postby redmanjp » May 23rd, 2021, 2:50 pm

the CMO did warn about it in march. the PM waited too long to take action

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Postby adnj » May 23rd, 2021, 3:05 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.

So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.


So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?


Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."

https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152


I guess you didn't see my other post.....


I meant covax isn't the only source

We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us


Barbados and TTO both received two tranches of 33,600 doses of vaccine from COVAX within days of each other. Barbados received a donation of 100,000 doses of Ox/AZ from India in March. TTO received a donation of 100,000 doses of Sinopharm in May.

TTO has a population 4.75 times larger than Barbados.
Barbados had a confirmed infection rate was 40% higher and that peaked four months earlier than the current TTO spike.

Barbados and TTO received aporoximately the same number of vaccines but TTO received the bulk 2 months later.

Sinopharm recommends 3 weeks between doses. Ox/AZ recommends 4 to 12 weeks.

The current number of first doses is 64,639, second doses is 1,179.

Vaccines have not been in TTO long enough to satisfy the time lag necessary to give the second dose.Image



So are you trying to say we are doing ok to you?
Given that are are last in the region?
Nothing could have been done differently?

Every other country just sat back and "received" vaccines right?
Every other Caribbean country seemed to have exhausted all avenues to get their population vaccinated

We should just be content with our place at the bottom and count the numbers every day I guess


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-vaccines


You just went off on a tangent.

You keep asking. I keep answering with irrefutable fact. Now you want to segue off into opinion.

If you just want to jump out there and talk about how your pride as a citizen is diminished or how you want to vote people out of office, have at it.

Or you can just walk outside at 10 pm tonight with no mask on and find someone that gives a sh!t.


Fact is obvious to all except Habit7 that Trinidad and Tobago has done POORLY in vaccine acquisition.

Our target of 10% fully vaccinated by the end of August is quite pathetic as many in the Caribbean have already surpassed that, and by August 1st many including Jamaica and Guyana would have reached between 20-30% fully vaccinated.

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I believe that you just got me confused with somebody else.

But if you're speaking to metric for the region, TTO is near the bottom in vaccine roollout, middle of the pack in mask use and oneof the best in social distancing.

If the results don't agree with your views of acceptable, vote them out, recall election, protest, riot, sh!t on an MPs desk.

There are lots of ways to show disapproval .
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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 19444 cases, 365 deaths, 7765 active, 11314 recovered in T&T

Postby pugboy » May 23rd, 2021, 3:11 pm

so warning for “us” vs warning for “pm”
is two diff ting ?
redmanjp wrote:the CMO did warn about it in march. the PM waited too long to take action

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Postby st7 » May 23rd, 2021, 3:19 pm

weeks now allyuh arguing about easter and vigils. we're in the last week of may now... give it a break nah

sheit happened. conspiracies are at an all time high

we cant change what the govt enforcing because we like it so. we hadda bend over for all the bull they want to give us so they could 'make' their money.

i just hope crime does not go up during the next month, and those who are vulnerable financial-wise are given some sort of aid. those people are the ones who are highly affected by these restrictions, while us here on tuner continue with fighting each other on the netz because 'everyone is wrong but me'

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 19444 cases, 365 deaths, 7765 active, 11314 recovered in T&T

Postby MaxPower » May 23rd, 2021, 3:37 pm

novastar1 wrote:
adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
adnj wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
novastar1 wrote:
cornfused wrote:While we need to do more vaccination we can only

vaccinate when we have the medicine. Throwing up a line chart with other vaccination rates in the Caribbean says very little. .

We have not been getting much vaccines as our neighbours. Not nearly , one reason is that we generally had this well managed
nd other other countries were in crisis. Covax did not see us a a priority.

Any one can remember our first vaccines were a gift from Barbados 2,000



Covax didn't see us as a priority?

Where did you get this info?


Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.

So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.


So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?


Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."

https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152


I guess you didn't see my other post.....


I meant covax isn't the only source

We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us


Barbados and TTO both received two tranches of 33,600 doses of vaccine from COVAX within days of each other. Barbados received a donation of 100,000 doses of Ox/AZ from India in March. TTO received a donation of 100,000 doses of Sinopharm in May.

TTO has a population 4.75 times larger than Barbados.
Barbados had a confirmed infection rate was 40% higher and that peaked four months earlier than the current TTO spike.

Barbados and TTO received aporoximately the same number of vaccines but TTO received the bulk 2 months later.

Sinopharm recommends 3 weeks between doses. Ox/AZ recommends 4 to 12 weeks.

The current number of first doses is 64,639, second doses is 1,179.

Vaccines have not been in TTO long enough to satisfy the time lag necessary to give the second dose.Image



So are you trying to say we are doing ok to you?
Given that are are last in the region?
Nothing could have been done differently?

Every other country just sat back and "received" vaccines right?
Every other Caribbean country seemed to have exhausted all avenues to get their population vaccinated

We should just be content with our place at the bottom and count the numbers every day I guess


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-vaccines


And that is exactly it.

Trinis are content with their place.

What an embarrassment.

Blaming everyone but themselves.

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Postby redmanjp » May 23rd, 2021, 3:53 pm

i think we should give the AZ shot to as many ppl as possible instead of reserving half for the 2nd shot as data gives it a 76-80% efficacy with just 1 shot, just about the same as 2 shots of sinopharm

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Postby Dohplaydat » May 23rd, 2021, 4:04 pm

redmanjp wrote:i think we should give the AZ shot to as many ppl as possible instead of reserving half for the 2nd shot as data gives it a 76-80% efficacy with just 1 shot, just about the same as 2 shots of sinopharm


I would agree with that, once we can be certain the second batch of AZ from COVAX will arrive in July.

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