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[Dohplaydat]

CDC finds more cases of rare heart inflammation than expected after Covid vaccine shots


Today June 23

There have been more than 1,200 cases of a rare heart inflammation condition in people who received Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine, according to a CDC presentation slide published Wednesday ahead of an advisory meeting.

Key word is rare. There has never been a mass vaccination drive of this scale so we'll be discovering new side effects all the time. A lot of previous vaccines were never deployed in such huge numbers so we don't even know of side effects arose from those previously.

Just weigh your risks, it's quite simple, Covid is far far like 10,000X more deadly and will have long term damage including reduce quality of life and life span for many.

The choice to me is quite obvious.

Also heart inflammation is no big deal once treated eh.

Man said no big deal once treated yes lol...every man make your own choice we will see who made the right one, time will tell

First World countries yes...
Trinidad if u endup with complications you will have to wait 8hr min lay down by the fig tree in the hospital carpark till yuh prob dead... And we will get a "covid related death number"

Myocarditis in most cases is mild, so far no one has died from vaccine induced Myocarditis making death exceptionally rare.

In most cases one of Myocarditis doesn't lead to any long term issues.

Not saying it's not dangerous but it's not nearly as bad as VITT which is more common and deadly.

[Habit7]

Well why did we pass up the opportunity to buy 351000 Pfizer vaccines?

Not true https://tt.loopnews.com/content/pfizer- ... -cancelled

Are you saying that we got the 351000 Pfizer vaccines?

No, we didn't pass up the opportunity as you said. We signed an NDA with Pfizer and we still discussing it.

So they discussing since MARCH, we are now in JUNE . Why were the vaccines given EMERGENCY use approval again?

Take that up with Pfizer, we are more than ready to use them as we already using the 80 vials from the US. The EUL was given by WHO.

[Mmoney607]

Well why did we pass up the opportunity to buy 351000 Pfizer vaccines?

Not true https://tt.loopnews.com/content/pfizer- ... -cancelled

Are you saying that we got the 351000 Pfizer vaccines?

No, we didn't pass up the opportunity as you said. We signed an NDA with Pfizer and we still discussing it.

So they discussing since MARCH, we are now in JUNE . Why were the vaccines given EMERGENCY use approval again?

Take that up with Pfizer, we are more than ready to use them as we already using the 80 vials from the US. The EUL was given by WHO.

So why was the deal scuttled? Ansa mcal put everything in place.

[zoom rader]

Rowlair and the red government brought a cat in bag with a loan


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/relied-chines ... 46542.html

Trinidad take bull

Data from Mongolia showed that the Sinopharm vaccine was actually more protective than the doses developed by AstraZeneca and Sputnik, a Russian vaccine, according to the health ministry.

If you know a better source of vaccines please share it with us and the rest of Caricom.

If the red government had taken front since 2020 then we would have not been in this position.

Management of Covid is a total failure.

[elec2020]

^ precisely. Whose to say any stats we get from the Ministry is not doctored?

Health Minister Terrance Deyalsingh claims Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar instructed public officials to hide flu mortality statistics for the period 2013-2015.

So was any Acton taken against these officials or are these the same brown nose, fan boys and fan girls that responsible for its having over 700 deaths to date

its tnt. Obviously nothing happened.

[Habit7]

So why was the deal scuttled? Ansa mcal put everything in place.

Again you are talking nonsense. The deal is not scuttled. Ansa put nothing in place, they asked to know the price of vaccines and then volunteered to pay for them with benefits to them.

If the red government had taken front since 2020 then we would have not been in this position.

Management of Covid is a total failure.

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/02/06/deyals ... ne-makers/

[redmanjp]

so what's the deal with covax? we get more AZ from it? or any other vaccine?

[adnj]

^^ also the 400 yearly from the flu, that we have no problem with.

Sorry to blunt your misinformation but 37 died from the flu in 2019
https://tt.loopnews.com/content/flu-deaths-37

Carry on.

Did influenza disappear?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/more-are-dying-from-flu-than-coronavirus/article_7565ba3a-5256-11ea-83f4-3b6f1c7621f6.amp.html

You rel pathetic though

How the status of covid in TT in Feb 2020 demonstrative of anything now? Just because you endorsed smash erroneous comment, you trying to save face?

Come better next time.

Did it ever cross your dense, perverted mind that I was referring to the influenza stats in the article when I asked about influenza before the link to the article?

You rel pathetic though.

Come better next time.

Dec 2019 37 deaths, Feb 2020 40 deaths, 3 more ppl died. What is the relevance?

400 deaths is the combination of influenza and all pneumonic infections resulting in death. It is widely reported and apparently not well understood by people citing the statistics.

https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/tri ... -pneumonia

[zoom rader]

So why was the deal scuttled? Ansa mcal put everything in place.

Again you are talking nonsense. The deal is not scuttled. Ansa put nothing in place, they asked to know the price of vaccines and then volunteered to pay for them with benefits to them.

If the red government had taken front since 2020 then we would have not been in this position.

Management of Covid is a total failure.

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/02/06/deyals ... ne-makers/

Red government runs a parlour.

Failed to secure Vaccines since early to mid 2020.

Big failure in testing and lies to citizens then says sorry

[paid_influencer]

habit7, you seem like a knowledgeable fella. how come Bahrain buying pfizer but pfizer not selling we

[Mmoney607]

So why was the deal scuttled? Ansa mcal put everything in place.

Again you are talking nonsense. The deal is not scuttled. Ansa put nothing in place, they asked to know the price of vaccines and then volunteered to pay for them with benefits to them.

If the red government had taken front since 2020 then we would have not been in this position.

Management of Covid is a total failure.

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/02/06/deyals ... ne-makers/

Ansa had an emergency board meeting and organized everything. Is jackass Rowley that cancel it and come up with excuses.

[Habit7]

habit7, you seem like a knowledgeable fella. how come Bahrain buying pfizer but pfizer not selling we

IDK, as i told the other guy, take that up with Pfizer. But I see many of our neighbours are in the same boat.

Ansa had an emergency board meeting and organized everything. Is jackass Rowley that cancel it and come up with excuses.

Again, that is nothing more than your fruitful imagination. But if Ansa "organised everything" as you imagined then nothing is stopping them from obtaining vaccines
https://www.facebook.com/CCNTV6/videos/2998320660449655



In other news:
The US CDC accepting Sinopharm vaccinations as valid
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... outside-us

[redmanjp]

So here is my comparison:

Sinopharm may not keep u out of hospital but keep u from ICU or death
AstraZeneca will keep u out of hospital but u can still get sick
Pfizer and Moderna will keep u from getting sick or spreading it even if u do

[Mmoney607]

habit7, you seem like a knowledgeable fella. how come Bahrain buying pfizer but pfizer not selling we

IDK, as i told the other guy, take that up with Pfizer. But I see many of our neighbours are in the same boat.

Ansa had an emergency board meeting and organized everything. Is jackass Rowley that cancel it and come up with excuses.

Again, that is nothing more than your fruitful imagination. But if Ansa "organised everything" as you imagined then nothing is stopping them from obtaining vaccines
https://www.facebook.com/CCNTV6/videos/2998320660449655

JA Rowley and deyassingh have said repeatedly that vaccine manufacturers are only dealing with governments and not private companies.

[Habit7]

Again, that is nothing more than your fruitful imagination. But if Ansa "organised everything" as you imagined then nothing is stopping them from obtaining vaccines
https://www.facebook.com/CCNTV6/videos/2998320660449655

JA Rowley and deyassingh have said repeatedly that vaccine manufacturers are only dealing with governments and not private companies.

So when you said Ansa "organised everything" what did they organise?

[Mmoney607]

Ansa mcal called an emergency board meeting and the board approved the deal but asked the govt to make the US dollars available and for a tax credit.

[sMASH]

all that 2020 covax talk was mailbox talk. take me eh kno how much money and begging for vaccines all over.

[Habit7]

Ansa mcal called an emergency board meeting and the board approved the deal but asked the govt to make the US dollars available and for a tax credit.

You are being deliberately vague because you know you are talking nonsense.

There was no deal to approve. The govt sent them no formal request or purchase order, a conglomerate and a govt cannot operate on word of mouth. Ansa unilaterally devised their own proposal to take to the govt which involved a tax credit for all companies that helped. Ansa has no shortage of USD they just bought a bank, they don't need govt to give them USD. They just devise a scheme to pressure the govt into their mould and the govt said thanks but we already have the funds to purchase and we never asked you. https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/24/deyals ... -vaccines/

Just like when the Supermarket Association made the same claim that they were acquiring vaccines and it ended up being a dud.

Don't be so gullible.

[Mmoney607]

Ansa mcal called an emergency board meeting and the board approved the deal but asked the govt to make the US dollars available and for a tax credit.

You are being deliberately vague because you know you are talking nonsense.

There was no deal to approve. The govt sent them no formal request or purchase order, a conglomerate and a govt cannot operate on word of mouth. Ansa unilaterally devised their own proposal to take to the govt which involved a tax credit for all companies that helped. Ansa has no shortage of USD they just bought a bank, they don't need govt to give them USD. They just devise a scheme to pressure the govt into their mould and the govt said thanks but we already have the funds to purchase and we never asked you. https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/24/deyals ... -vaccines/

Just like when the Supermarket Association made the same claim that they were acquiring vaccines and it ended up being a dud.

Don't be so gullible.

It was deyalsingh that approached the private sector.

But ok, the govt efforts to procure vaccines have turned out brilliantly so no need for help from the private sector now.

[Habit7]

Ansa mcal called an emergency board meeting and the board approved the deal but asked the govt to make the US dollars available and for a tax credit.

You are being deliberately vague because you know you are talking nonsense.

There was no deal to approve. The govt sent them no formal request or purchase order, a conglomerate and a govt cannot operate on word of mouth. Ansa unilaterally devised their own proposal to take to the govt which involved a tax credit for all companies that helped. Ansa has no shortage of USD they just bought a bank, they don't need govt to give them USD. They just devise a scheme to pressure the govt into their mould and the govt said thanks but we already have the funds to purchase and we never asked you. https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/24/deyals ... -vaccines/

Just like when the Supermarket Association made the same claim that they were acquiring vaccines and it ended up being a dud.

Don't be so gullible.

It was deyalsingh that approached the private sector.

But ok, the govt efforts to procure vaccines have turned out brilliantly so no need for help from the private sector now.

Deyalsingh replied, "Yes. This offer came out of a meeting, requested and arranged by the Ministry of Health because people were reaching out to me personally...chambers of commerce and all of those persons. We facilitated a meeting, they asked us our needs and where they could help."

Deyalsingh disclosed the private sector was willing to help with everything "from storage of vaccines to transport to provision of people to the provision of vehicles." He also said the private sector asked the ministry about the cost of the vaccines. "We gave them the cost. We were always prepared to fund these ourselves but the private sector wanted to be a part of it.
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/24/deyals ... -vaccines/

I don't what else to tell you. The private sector is free to bring in vaccines, nothing is stopping them. They are facing the same problem TT and the majority of the world is facing right now and that is a shortage of vaccines.

This is not a PNM thing, or that there is some warehouse with vaccines just waiting for us to call. The vaccine makers have obligations to the countries that they are in and then they can sell the excess. Plus there is a shortage of raw materials too. Try to think more broadly than Rowley and Deyalsingh, there are many ppl in many countries waiting for vaccines too.

[Habit7]

This looks familiar "don't it"

[Gladiator]

This looks familiar "don't it"

Typical PNM mentality... because they doing sheit it okay that we doin sheit too.... you need to evolve man!!!

[Habit7]

Typical PNM mentality... because they doing sheit it okay that we doin sheit too.... you need to evolve man!!!

Why cant you all get it through your thick skulls. No govt is doing sheit. Not TT, JM, GY, BB nobody. We are all at the mercy of vaccine suppliers.

It seems like everybody in the world knows that and are advocating for donations and releasing the intellectual property so that countries can manufacture them locally and stopping the vaccination of children so that medical workers in other countries can get a dose.

But myopic and simpleton UNC supporters here are acting like this a Deyalsingh, Rowley, Parasram and Hinds problem. You are not aware of regional, far less international news but telling me to evolve?

[Dohplaydat]

Typical PNM mentality... because they doing sheit it okay that we doin sheit too.... you need to evolve man!!!

Why cant you all get it through your thick skulls. No govt is doing sheit. Not TT, JM, GY, BB nobody. We are all at the mercy of vaccine suppliers.

It seems like everybody in the world knows that and are advocating for donations and releasing the intellectual property so that countries can manufacture them locally and stopping the vaccination of children so that medical workers in other countries can get a dose.

But myopic and simpleton UNC supporters here are acting like this a Deyalsingh, Rowley, Parasram and Hinds problem. You are not aware of regional, far less international news but telling me to evolve?

I don't man, 2nd to last in the Caribbean isn't something that should be acceptable. But thank God for Jamaica eh, somebody worse than we.

[Gladiator]

Typical PNM mentality... because they doing sheit it okay that we doin sheit too.... you need to evolve man!!!

Why cant you all get it through your thick skulls. No govt is doing sheit. Not TT, JM, GY, BB nobody. We are all at the mercy of vaccine suppliers.

It seems like everybody in the world knows that and are advocating for donations and releasing the intellectual property so that countries can manufacture them locally and stopping the vaccination of children so that medical workers in other countries can get a dose.

But myopic and simpleton UNC supporters here are acting like this a Deyalsingh, Rowley, Parasram and Hinds problem. You are not aware of regional, far less international news but telling me to evolve?

Did you even watch the video you posted. They are stressing on the mismagement and the long lines and how far people came from and did not get vaccines. People were blaming the "system".

The problem my unevolved comrade is not how many vaccines we have, buy, could have bought... but how the PNM Govt managed the distribution. No proper system in place, telling all people over 60 to come first come first serve when you know the number of vaccines per day to be given is less. Making people sit in the road, in the rain. The the assholery of the last name without chcking the numbers and creating more mess.

Look at the supermarket association, their execution was flawless. It just takes a little brain power. Evolution gifted some people with it.. the rest well they call themselves politicians!!!

[paid_influencer]

I like this new Habit7. Posting things with sense and not just propaganda.

most of the world has no vaccines. that is fact. We aren't behind the curve in the wider global scale. The US is 4% of the world's population. They are the exception, not the rule. COVAX hopes to get 20% of the world's populated vaxxed in 2022.

no the govt isn't perfect. admitting mistakes is the first step to correcting them. The vaccine blitz was a mistake. Telling people to go holidays for Easter was a mistake. They admitted it. Hopefully they learnt from it.

Time to move forward and think about mistakes that can be coming in the future- like opening schools in September.

[paid_influencer]

The problem my unevolved comrade is not how many vaccines we have, buy, could have bought... but how the PNM Govt managed the distribution. No proper system in place, telling all people over 60 to come first come first serve when you know the number of vaccines per day to be given is less. Making people sit in the road, in the rain. The the assholery of the last name without chcking the numbers and creating more mess.

Deyalsingh say give him 2-3 weeks to put a computerized appointment system in place. He said that about 2 weeks ago. Awaiting to see if that will materialize.

to avoid future mistakes -
he should strictly limit the eligibility criteria.. start with strictly 70+ year olds.
once all those are vaxxxed and there are open spots, drop it to 65 year olds,
then once all those are vaxxed - drop it to 60+ year olds with comorbidities
then, drop it to 60+ year olds without comorbidities,
and so on.

create a central electronic registry so people only have to provide contact and health information once. Let them submit their information via telephone call into a hotline. Contact them by phone call when they become eligible.

but what do I know. listen to the MoH, they are the experts, not me. We knows nothing about planning things

[Gladiator]

The problem my unevolved comrade is not how many vaccines we have, buy, could have bought... but how the PNM Govt managed the distribution. No proper system in place, telling all people over 60 to come first come first serve when you know the number of vaccines per day to be given is less. Making people sit in the road, in the rain. The the assholery of the last name without chcking the numbers and creating more mess.

Deyalsingh say give him 2-3 weeks to put a computerized appointment system in place. He said that about 2 weeks ago. Awaiting to see if that will materialize.

to avoid future mistakes -
he should strictly limit the eligibility criteria.. start with strictly 70+ year olds.
once all those are vaxxxed and there are open spots, drop it to 65 year olds,
then once all those are vaxxed - drop it to 60+ year olds with comorbidities
then, drop it to 60+ year olds without comorbidities,
and so on.

create a central electronic registry so people only have to provide contact and health information once. Let them submit their information via telephone call into a hotline. Contact them by phone call when they become eligible.

but what do I know. listen to the MoH, they are the experts, not me. We knows nothing about planning things

I hear yuh P_I, but I always wondered about this distribution matrix, is it really being thought out or are those in charge just copying and pasting like they do everything else. Why the older people first? This might be a little out of the carib case thinking but hear me out.

Persons over 60/65 are the only persons (95% at least) that can really lock down themselves and still have an income (pension) rolling in. The rest of the population have to work. They are the ones risking contracting the virus, but their role in society is to keep the economy going. They make up a high % of the breadwinners that have dependants be it spouses, elderly, kids etc.

So why not focus on the age group that needs to turn the wheels and have no choice but to work. Put them as the highest priority and then move down to students so that UWI and Tertiary Ed can restart, then leave the old people for the last since they can effectively stay home and hide from the virus since they done retired.

Of course some further thoughts woud be to put a grocery delivery and doctor house call, pharmacy delivery etc in place for the old folks to get it a little easier. But that is only a dream since this Govt done spend all the morney on thing we ent see yet...

[redmanjp]

Older ppl still have to go grocery pharmacy doctor office market and bank for pension checks. Delivery could work in some cases but many would still be accustomed to going out and some may live with younger persons who expose them. Worldwide most countries have prioritized elderly as they make up the bulk of persons hospitalized or dying. Even WHO has recommended this approach. Protect the most vulnerable first to end the acute stage of the pandemic.

Also remember even if we vaccinate younger ppl they can still spread it to old ppl especially with the vaccines we have. Main goal of the vaccine is to first prevent hospitalization and death which is mostly occurring in the over 60 group and under 60 with NCDs. A secondary one is to reduce spread.

The exception is of course health care workers and some essential workers which is also being done. If you are working age but with NCDs you will also be priority.

The US went with this approach and ended the acute stage and has reopened in full I'm most places even though they haven't reached herd immunity yet. Once you reduce hospitalization restrictions can ease even if u have considerably high cases as most would be in the younger age group less likely to be hospitalized.

[Dohplaydat]

Older ppl still have to go grocery pharmacy doctor office market and bank for pension checks. Delivery could work in some cases but many would still be accustomed to going out and some may live with younger persons who expose them. Worldwide most countries have prioritized elderly as they make up the bulk of persons hospitalized or dying. Even WHO has recommended this approach. Protect the most vulnerable first to end the acute stage of the pandemic.

Also remember even if we vaccinate younger ppl they can still spread it to old ppl especially with the vaccines we have. Main goal of the vaccine is to first prevent hospitalization and death which is mostly occurring in the over 60 group. A secondary one is to reduce spread.

The exception is of course health care workers and some essential workers which is also being done.

The US went with this approach and ended the acute stage and has reopened in full I'm most places even though they haven't reached herd immunity yet. Once you reduce hospitalization restrictions can ease even if u have considerably high cases as most would be in the younger age group less likely to be hospitalized.

100% agree.