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Snowball turns to avalanche and Habit and company will deny the existence of hyper inflationpugboy wrote:When a vendor of whatever says they increasing price due to their own living expenses increasing it may start a snowball effect
That will soon be the next reason for price increases and maybe quite justified
Can't tell if max is trolling or seriousMaxPower wrote:I love Superpharm prices.
Keeps most of the sufferers out.
hover11 wrote:Can't tell if max is trolling or seriousMaxPower wrote:I love Superpharm prices.
Keeps most of the sufferers out.
The pull bull entrepreneur , man only shops at massy and superpharm. We cannot speak to Maxbluefete wrote:hover11 wrote:Can't tell if max is trolling or seriousMaxPower wrote:I love Superpharm prices.
Keeps most of the sufferers out.
Yuh mean the wannabe 1%-er? LOL.
Mr. Speaker, we are moving ahead with a Food Security Facility with the Government of Guyana. We have executed a
Memorandum of Understanding with the Guyanese Government which will provide in Berbice initially 10,000 acres of land
for immediate agricultural production and subsequently a further 90,000 acres. The Government of Trinidad and Tobago
will invite private sector investment in agricultural production in Guyana, and will work with the Government of Guyana to
provide a facilitating environment and the necessary support to attract such investments. We have requested of the
Government of Guyana that investors from Trinidad and Tobago be eligible to access incentives currently available to
Guyanese farmers and be allowed to repatriate profits.
The time to spend behind agriculture is long gone, nobody wants to be a farmer , our system does not identify farmers in the ranks of prestigious jobs such as doctors, lawyers, teachers etc. Who going to school for years to be a farmer and do all that hard work with little returns should floods or adverse weather destroy your crops and then dealing with the human element of thievesRedman wrote:Still waiting for a solution to the real challenges that have prevented agriculture from scaling up.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/budget-s ... VbuE7cpCDY
2013/14 budget
Agriculture was allocated 1.3B
Gopaul luck is really not Seepaul luck.Mr. Speaker, we are moving ahead with a Food Security Facility with the Government of Guyana. We have executed a
Memorandum of Understanding with the Guyanese Government which will provide in Berbice initially 10,000 acres of land
for immediate agricultural production and subsequently a further 90,000 acres. The Government of Trinidad and Tobago
will invite private sector investment in agricultural production in Guyana, and will work with the Government of Guyana to
provide a facilitating environment and the necessary support to attract such investments. We have requested of the
Government of Guyana that investors from Trinidad and Tobago be eligible to access incentives currently available to
Guyanese farmers and be allowed to repatriate profits.
88sins wrote:daring dragoon wrote:prices of vegetables should come down this weekend as govt stopped its food hamper distribution with association with them wholesale market farmers. so it should have excess vegetable in the market such as tomatoes and bhaigan, imo of demand and supply expect to see prices falling soon unless govt start back the food hamper distribution after the budget next week. i hope they do not because the people i see collecting them hampers spend their money on playwhe and rum after getting a free hamper. let them and the food card people pay for their own food. someone has to visit these people and make sure they have children and live below the poverty line for them to get freeness. once saw a woman wearing one set of gold paying with a food card and other have to work hard to buy groceries. first thing in the budget is to stop the freeness unless you actually qualify.
You may think so, but that not gonna happen. Reason?
Farmers inputs have increased significantly, and farmer have families to feed just like everyone else, they go to the supermarket, just like everyone else, they have loans and bills too.
So when they go and realize, basic staple foodstuffs are more expensive, they not trying to lower the price of squat unless tgey see goods not moving and it about to spoil and they trying to avoid a total loss.
So you will see one or two of them selling out wholesale at low prices, but the majority gonna stay put until they got no choice but to lower prices to attract customers.
Man say habit is slow.Redress10 wrote:Habit
Since you insist on "International prices" let us compare international prices.
An avocado in the UK costs £0.70 which is the equivalent of about $7tt. These are imported from all over the world including central america and south africa.
The same avocado costs 0.88usd which is the equivalent of about $6tt.
What is the price of an avocado that is made and produced in Trinidad? How much for the ones selling in the grocery stores that are imported?
Do you really think that people in the developed world are concerned with "international food prices"? They are concerned with their domestic food production and whether it is going to be affected by drought etc. They don't care about imports. If the price is too high they simply switch suppliers etc.
Don't you think that importing the raw materials will be much cheaper than importing the finished products? Plua didn't I mention that those companies also export to other caribbean countries thereby earning forex.
Bro aren't we feeding cows in Trinidad right now? Aren't there already farmers supplying Nestle with Milk right now? This question is arsinine. We are saying expand these types of production. You are making it sound like it is being started from scratch.
You clearly are slow. Imported food isn't "cheaper" than local agriculture. What you are describing without even realising it is developed countries dumping their products on lesser developed nations to ruin local industry. What you are doing is promoting this practice at your detriment. You are ok destroying local industry to import "cheap" unhealthy food from America etc? What a dunce statement.
hover11 wrote:The pull bull entrepreneur , man only shops at massy and superpharm. We cannot speak to Maxbluefete wrote:hover11 wrote:Can't tell if max is trolling or seriousMaxPower wrote:I love Superpharm prices.
Keeps most of the sufferers out.
Yuh mean the wannabe 1%-er? LOL.
Max,MaxPower wrote:hover11 wrote:The pull bull entrepreneur , man only shops at massy and superpharm. We cannot speak to Maxbluefete wrote:hover11 wrote:Can't tell if max is trolling or seriousMaxPower wrote:I love Superpharm prices.
Keeps most of the sufferers out.
Yuh mean the wannabe 1%-er? LOL.
Lol,
Jason you making it sound like these are upper class establishments. I’m just saying that these places have less sufferers which makes it a more comfortable and clean environment.
Their prices are set like that for a reason.
hover11 wrote:Max,
Your a mad man
Its true though Price differentiation is a marketing tool to attract a certain type of customer.Would you see your average sufferer in a place like Chaud or one of those places? Ridiculously overpriced, but that's to keep the riffraff outhover11 wrote:Max,MaxPower wrote:hover11 wrote:The pull bull entrepreneur , man only shops at massy and superpharm. We cannot speak to Maxbluefete wrote:hover11 wrote:Can't tell if max is trolling or seriousMaxPower wrote:I love Superpharm prices.
Keeps most of the sufferers out.
Yuh mean the wannabe 1%-er? LOL.
Lol,
Jason you making it sound like these are upper class establishments. I’m just saying that these places have less sufferers which makes it a more comfortable and clean environment.
Their prices are set like that for a reason.
Your a mad man
MaxPower wrote:hover11 wrote:Max,
Your a mad man
I’m not a mad man Jason.
I was vaccinated.
Exactly I think you are experiencing from the vaxMaxPower wrote:hover11 wrote:Max,
Your a mad man
I’m not a mad man Jason.
I was vaccinated.
So lemme get this straight you would go Massy to buy the same groceries as the sufferers for more money because you don't want to see sufferers, how often do you frequent the grocery or pharmacy sir?I could understand restaurants as you want a nice ambience and you paying for name most of the time but this groceries and pharmaceuticals it not that serious.timelapse wrote:Its true though Price differentiation is a marketing tool to attract a certain type of customer.Would you see your average sufferer in a place like Chaud or one of those places? Ridiculously overpriced, but that's to keep the riffraff outhover11 wrote:Max,MaxPower wrote:hover11 wrote:The pull bull entrepreneur , man only shops at massy and superpharm. We cannot speak to Maxbluefete wrote:hover11 wrote:Can't tell if max is trolling or seriousMaxPower wrote:I love Superpharm prices.
Keeps most of the sufferers out.
Yuh mean the wannabe 1%-er? LOL.
Lol,
Jason you making it sound like these are upper class establishments. I’m just saying that these places have less sufferers which makes it a more comfortable and clean environment.
Their prices are set like that for a reason.
Your a mad man
hover11 wrote:So lemme get this straight you would go Massy to buy the same groceries as the sufferers for more money because you don't want to see sufferers, how often do you frequent the grocery or pharmacy sir?I could understand restaurants as you want a nice ambience and you paying for name most of the time but this groceries and pharmaceuticals it not that serious.
Them syrians probably laughing everyday saying watch how dotish them trinis are, we make allya feel like shyt and allya still supporting we
Redman wrote:Still waiting for a solution to the real challenges that have prevented agriculture from scaling up.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/budget-s ... VbuE7cpCDY
2013/14 budget
Agriculture was allocated 1.3B
Gopaul luck is really not Seepaul luck.Mr. Speaker, we are moving ahead with a Food Security Facility with the Government of Guyana. We have executed a
Memorandum of Understanding with the Guyanese Government which will provide in Berbice initially 10,000 acres of land
for immediate agricultural production and subsequently a further 90,000 acres. The Government of Trinidad and Tobago
will invite private sector investment in agricultural production in Guyana, and will work with the Government of Guyana to
provide a facilitating environment and the necessary support to attract such investments. We have requested of the
Government of Guyana that investors from Trinidad and Tobago be eligible to access incentives currently available to
Guyanese farmers and be allowed to repatriate profits.
Redress10 wrote:Habit
Since you insist on "International prices" let us compare international prices.
An avocado in the UK costs £0.70 which is the equivalent of about $7tt. These are imported from all over the world including central america and south africa.
The same avocado costs 0.88usd which is the equivalent of about $6tt.
What is the price of an avocado that is made and produced in Trinidad? How much for the ones selling in the grocery stores that are imported?
Do you really think that people in the developed world are concerned with "international food prices"? They are concerned with their domestic food production and whether it is going to be affected by drought etc. They don't care about imports. If the price is too high they simply switch suppliers etc.
Don't you think that importing the raw materials will be much cheaper than importing the finished products? Plua didn't I mention that those companies also export to other caribbean countries thereby earning forex.
Bro aren't we feeding cows in Trinidad right now? Aren't there already farmers supplying Nestle with Milk right now? This question is arsinine. We are saying expand these types of production. You are making it sound like it is being started from scratch.
You clearly are slow. Imported food isn't "cheaper" than local agriculture. What you are describing without even realising it is developed countries dumping their products on lesser developed nations to ruin local industry. What you are doing is promoting this practice at your detriment. You are ok destroying local industry to import "cheap" unhealthy food from America etc? What a dunce statement.
Redress10 wrote:Redman wrote:Still waiting for a solution to the real challenges that have prevented agriculture from scaling up.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/budget-s ... VbuE7cpCDY
2013/14 budget
Agriculture was allocated 1.3B
Gopaul luck is really not Seepaul luck.Mr. Speaker, we are moving ahead with a Food Security Facility with the Government of Guyana. We have executed a
Memorandum of Understanding with the Guyanese Government which will provide in Berbice initially 10,000 acres of land
for immediate agricultural production and subsequently a further 90,000 acres. The Government of Trinidad and Tobago
will invite private sector investment in agricultural production in Guyana, and will work with the Government of Guyana to
provide a facilitating environment and the necessary support to attract such investments. We have requested of the
Government of Guyana that investors from Trinidad and Tobago be eligible to access incentives currently available to
Guyanese farmers and be allowed to repatriate profits.
This sounds good and well but was there any follow through with it? You all keep bringing up these moot points. Isn't the Caribbean more or less considered a poor region. Don't people leave from the region to seek better opportunities abroad due to this poverty? The major part of poverty is the inability to secure your food. If the region is suffering high food prices due to imports then it is a problem that needs to be tackled from a caricom standpoint. Wouldn't such an initiative also help a country such as Haiti?
If Governments such as China can play crucial role in their agricultural sector then who the hell is Govtt. The govt own an airline, public transport, education, healthcare, energy etc but agriculture is where you all draw the line on gov't involvement?
This is beyond weird. Men keep referencing Caroni. You all know how much technology and research has advanced since Caroni days? We really talking about Caroni when talking about modern day agriculture?
Imagine the food import bill is almost 7 billion tt a year bit agriculture only getting 1 billion tt a year. But men in here talking about agriculture destined to fail. Must fail when you starve it of resources to ensure your food import friends and financiers have successful import businesses.
Who want to be a farmerRedman wrote:Redress10 wrote:Redman wrote:Still waiting for a solution to the real challenges that have prevented agriculture from scaling up.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/budget-s ... VbuE7cpCDY
2013/14 budget
Agriculture was allocated 1.3B
Gopaul luck is really not Seepaul luck.Mr. Speaker, we are moving ahead with a Food Security Facility with the Government of Guyana. We have executed a
Memorandum of Understanding with the Guyanese Government which will provide in Berbice initially 10,000 acres of land
for immediate agricultural production and subsequently a further 90,000 acres. The Government of Trinidad and Tobago
will invite private sector investment in agricultural production in Guyana, and will work with the Government of Guyana to
provide a facilitating environment and the necessary support to attract such investments. We have requested of the
Government of Guyana that investors from Trinidad and Tobago be eligible to access incentives currently available to
Guyanese farmers and be allowed to repatriate profits.
This sounds good and well but was there any follow through with it? You all keep bringing up these moot points. Isn't the Caribbean more or less considered a poor region. Don't people leave from the region to seek better opportunities abroad due to this poverty? The major part of poverty is the inability to secure your food. If the region is suffering high food prices due to imports then it is a problem that needs to be tackled from a caricom standpoint. Wouldn't such an initiative also help a country such as Haiti?
If Governments such as China can play crucial role in their agricultural sector then who the hell is Govtt. The govt own an airline, public transport, education, healthcare, energy etc but agriculture is where you all draw the line on gov't involvement?
This is beyond weird. Men keep referencing Caroni. You all know how much technology and research has advanced since Caroni days? We really talking about Caroni when talking about modern day agriculture?
Imagine the food import bill is almost 7 billion tt a year bit agriculture only getting 1 billion tt a year. But men in here talking about agriculture destined to fail. Must fail when you starve it of resources to ensure your food import friends and financiers have successful import businesses.
Redress
1)tell us how Govt-any govt will attract labor into the Ag Sector?
Remember your position on Hotel work and Tobagos educated population.
Redman wrote:Redress10 wrote:Redman wrote:Still waiting for a solution to the real challenges that have prevented agriculture from scaling up.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/budget-s ... VbuE7cpCDY
2013/14 budget
Agriculture was allocated 1.3B
Gopaul luck is really not Seepaul luck.Mr. Speaker, we are moving ahead with a Food Security Facility with the Government of Guyana. We have executed a
Memorandum of Understanding with the Guyanese Government which will provide in Berbice initially 10,000 acres of land
for immediate agricultural production and subsequently a further 90,000 acres. The Government of Trinidad and Tobago
will invite private sector investment in agricultural production in Guyana, and will work with the Government of Guyana to
provide a facilitating environment and the necessary support to attract such investments. We have requested of the
Government of Guyana that investors from Trinidad and Tobago be eligible to access incentives currently available to
Guyanese farmers and be allowed to repatriate profits.
This sounds good and well but was there any follow through with it? You all keep bringing up these moot points. Isn't the Caribbean more or less considered a poor region. Don't people leave from the region to seek better opportunities abroad due to this poverty? The major part of poverty is the inability to secure your food. If the region is suffering high food prices due to imports then it is a problem that needs to be tackled from a caricom standpoint. Wouldn't such an initiative also help a country such as Haiti?
If Governments such as China can play crucial role in their agricultural sector then who the hell is Govtt. The govt own an airline, public transport, education, healthcare, energy etc but agriculture is where you all draw the line on gov't involvement?
This is beyond weird. Men keep referencing Caroni. You all know how much technology and research has advanced since Caroni days? We really talking about Caroni when talking about modern day agriculture?
Imagine the food import bill is almost 7 billion tt a year bit agriculture only getting 1 billion tt a year. But men in here talking about agriculture destined to fail. Must fail when you starve it of resources to ensure your food import friends and financiers have successful import businesses.
Redress
1)tell us how Govt-any govt will attract labor into the Ag Sector?
Remember your position on Hotel work and Tobagos educated population.
Still don't feel good patronizing at establishment where the owners feel the customers are dirt, that doesn't sit right with medogg wrote:A an aside, Massy stores isn't more or less expensive than any other supermarket.
In fact with their Massy Card, It works out to be slightly cheaper on average than most ....
What's that about? I really don't know.hover11 wrote:Still don't feel good patronizing at establishment where the owners feel the customers are dirt, that doesn't sit right with medogg wrote:A an aside, Massy stores isn't more or less expensive than any other supermarket.
In fact with their Massy Card, It works out to be slightly cheaper on average than most ....
Redress10 wrote:Redman wrote:Redress10 wrote:Redman wrote:Still waiting for a solution to the real challenges that have prevented agriculture from scaling up.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/budget-s ... VbuE7cpCDY
2013/14 budget
Agriculture was allocated 1.3B
Gopaul luck is really not Seepaul luck.Mr. Speaker, we are moving ahead with a Food Security Facility with the Government of Guyana. We have executed a
Memorandum of Understanding with the Guyanese Government which will provide in Berbice initially 10,000 acres of land
for immediate agricultural production and subsequently a further 90,000 acres. The Government of Trinidad and Tobago
will invite private sector investment in agricultural production in Guyana, and will work with the Government of Guyana to
provide a facilitating environment and the necessary support to attract such investments. We have requested of the
Government of Guyana that investors from Trinidad and Tobago be eligible to access incentives currently available to
Guyanese farmers and be allowed to repatriate profits.
This sounds good and well but was there any follow through with it? You all keep bringing up these moot points. Isn't the Caribbean more or less considered a poor region. Don't people leave from the region to seek better opportunities abroad due to this poverty? The major part of poverty is the inability to secure your food. If the region is suffering high food prices due to imports then it is a problem that needs to be tackled from a caricom standpoint. Wouldn't such an initiative also help a country such as Haiti?
If Governments such as China can play crucial role in their agricultural sector then who the hell is Govtt. The govt own an airline, public transport, education, healthcare, energy etc but agriculture is where you all draw the line on gov't involvement?
This is beyond weird. Men keep referencing Caroni. You all know how much technology and research has advanced since Caroni days? We really talking about Caroni when talking about modern day agriculture?
Imagine the food import bill is almost 7 billion tt a year bit agriculture only getting 1 billion tt a year. But men in here talking about agriculture destined to fail. Must fail when you starve it of resources to ensure your food import friends and financiers have successful import businesses.
Redress
1)tell us how Govt-any govt will attract labor into the Ag Sector?
Remember your position on Hotel work and Tobagos educated population.
Gov't have a problem attracting Cepep workers? Does it have a problem with the influx of venezuelans who arrive here daily in search of work and betterment? What about the prison population who spend their days being taken care of by the taxpayers of the country? What about all the jamaicans and nigerians who somehow always here working security jobs.
Labour can always be imported from somewhere. Ent trinis like to go to Canada and Usa to pick apples? You all make this sound like it is rocket science.
hover11 wrote:Still don't feel good patronizing at establishment where the owners feel the customers are dirt, that doesn't sit right with medogg wrote:A an aside, Massy stores isn't more or less expensive than any other supermarket.
In fact with their Massy Card, It works out to be slightly cheaper on average than most ....
MaxPower wrote:hover11 wrote:Still don't feel good patronizing at establishment where the owners feel the customers are dirt, that doesn't sit right with medogg wrote:A an aside, Massy stores isn't more or less expensive than any other supermarket.
In fact with their Massy Card, It works out to be slightly cheaper on average than most ....
Jason,
Most Trini establishments and their employees treat their customers like dirt.
Syrians, Chinese and Venezuelans are generally the leaders in the service industry.
imported labor cost?Redman wrote:Redress10 wrote:Redman wrote:Redress10 wrote:Redman wrote:Still waiting for a solution to the real challenges that have prevented agriculture from scaling up.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/budget-s ... VbuE7cpCDY
2013/14 budget
Agriculture was allocated 1.3B
Gopaul luck is really not Seepaul luck.Mr. Speaker, we are moving ahead with a Food Security Facility with the Government of Guyana. We have executed a
Memorandum of Understanding with the Guyanese Government which will provide in Berbice initially 10,000 acres of land
for immediate agricultural production and subsequently a further 90,000 acres. The Government of Trinidad and Tobago
will invite private sector investment in agricultural production in Guyana, and will work with the Government of Guyana to
provide a facilitating environment and the necessary support to attract such investments. We have requested of the
Government of Guyana that investors from Trinidad and Tobago be eligible to access incentives currently available to
Guyanese farmers and be allowed to repatriate profits.
This sounds good and well but was there any follow through with it? You all keep bringing up these moot points. Isn't the Caribbean more or less considered a poor region. Don't people leave from the region to seek better opportunities abroad due to this poverty? The major part of poverty is the inability to secure your food. If the region is suffering high food prices due to imports then it is a problem that needs to be tackled from a caricom standpoint. Wouldn't such an initiative also help a country such as Haiti?
If Governments such as China can play crucial role in their agricultural sector then who the hell is Govtt. The govt own an airline, public transport, education, healthcare, energy etc but agriculture is where you all draw the line on gov't involvement?
This is beyond weird. Men keep referencing Caroni. You all know how much technology and research has advanced since Caroni days? We really talking about Caroni when talking about modern day agriculture?
Imagine the food import bill is almost 7 billion tt a year bit agriculture only getting 1 billion tt a year. But men in here talking about agriculture destined to fail. Must fail when you starve it of resources to ensure your food import friends and financiers have successful import businesses.
Redress
1)tell us how Govt-any govt will attract labor into the Ag Sector?
Remember your position on Hotel work and Tobagos educated population.
Gov't have a problem attracting Cepep workers? Does it have a problem with the influx of venezuelans who arrive here daily in search of work and betterment? What about the prison population who spend their days being taken care of by the taxpayers of the country? What about all the jamaicans and nigerians who somehow always here working security jobs.
Labour can always be imported from somewhere. Ent trinis like to go to Canada and Usa to pick apples? You all make this sound like it is rocket science.
Cepep workers finish work at 10AM ish
Whats the cost of this imported labor we importing to avoid importing food?
The answer to ALL of your questions is that with the exception of the prisoners, all of your suggested groups that are here(and been here for years) have made their choice of employment.
Few if any chose Agriculture- for two simple reasons-too Hard and wages too low.
So your suggestions already have been rejected by those groups you are looking to.
Theory is one thing-real market conditions are another.
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