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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby zoom rader » December 4th, 2023, 2:18 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:USA - Colonial project, settlers on stolen land blah blah blah!!!

Venezuela [a country literally named after fcuking Venice, Italy] - Legitimate owners of all the land they say is theirs.
Best Zionists claim its their lands too.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby thecloud1234 » December 4th, 2023, 3:15 pm

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pugboy wrote:doh forget venez also says that trinidad used to be attached to the mainland long ago


Hundreds of millions of years ago most likely.

The Andes mountains which run the entire span of South America, start all the way in the bottom of South America and ends up Toco..


love this fact....Amazing eh?

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby mero » December 5th, 2023, 6:45 am

So Kamla sending warnings and talking greasy to Maduro now. On behalf of WHOOOOO?!!!

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Dizzy28 » December 5th, 2023, 7:20 am

mero wrote:So Kamla sending warnings and talking greasy to Maduro now. On behalf of WHOOOOO?!!!
Not all Trinidadians are cowards to not call out imperialist dictators nor greedy to want Dragon gas above all else.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

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we greedy to want to buy Dragon gas now?

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby zoom rader » December 5th, 2023, 7:34 am

mero wrote:So Kamla sending warnings and talking greasy to Maduro now. On behalf of WHOOOOO?!!!
She not important at this stage and is just noise.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby mero » December 5th, 2023, 8:26 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
mero wrote:So Kamla sending warnings and talking greasy to Maduro now. On behalf of WHOOOOO?!!!
Not all Trinidadians are cowards to not call out imperialist dictators nor greedy to want Dragon gas above all else.


Lol imagine thinking this is being brave.

Standing up for Guyana is one thing. Talking greasy talk to real monsters when you saying nothing and can't be backed up by nothing irl is a whole other story. Far less when u and yuh supporters not saying or doing NOTHING.

Kamla and UNC always doing some borderline treasonous sheit for shits and giggles.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby VexXx Dogg » December 5th, 2023, 8:37 am

zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:So Kamla sending warnings and talking greasy to Maduro now. On behalf of WHOOOOO?!!!
She not important at this stage and is just noise.



Yep.
Nearly everything she does reeks of desperation for attention, a lil bit again she could wear an orange jersey.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby zoom rader » December 5th, 2023, 8:48 am

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zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:So Kamla sending warnings and talking greasy to Maduro now. On behalf of WHOOOOO?!!!
She not important at this stage and is just noise.



Yep.
Nearly everything she does reeks of desperation for attention, a lil bit again she could wear an orange jersey.
Orange is de new colour

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Redress10 » December 5th, 2023, 9:35 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
mero wrote:So Kamla sending warnings and talking greasy to Maduro now. On behalf of WHOOOOO?!!!
Not all Trinidadians are cowards to not call out imperialist dictators nor greedy to want Dragon gas above all else.



So the british and other European powers could go to South America, exploit the people and the land there for centuries, pack up and leave when they fed up exploiting and somehow you believe that the venezuelans who have lived there for centuries and who were forced to migrate from their lands are the imperialist dictators because they asking legitimate questions regarding their borders?

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Dizzy28 » December 5th, 2023, 10:00 am

Since colonial era boundaries are being debated Guyana probably should claim their Western boundary as the Orinoco River as laid out in the original Schomburg Line.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Redress10 » December 5th, 2023, 10:21 am

Dizzy28 wrote:Since colonial era boundaries are being debated Guyana probably should claim their Western boundary as the Orinoco River as laid out in the original Schomburg Line.


Are we talking about the indiginous groups in Guyana or the majority afro and indo races of Guyana? What rights do both these groups have to South American land. Indos just arrived in the early 1800s. They were imported and then the colonial powers upped and left. That was never colonial land to gift. You acting as though there were not ppl already living on these caribbean islands before our ancestors were brought here.

Guyana needs to try and not be a proxy for the US interests.
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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Dizzy28 » December 5th, 2023, 10:24 am

Redress10 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Since colonial era boundaries are being debated Guyana probably should claim their Western boundary as the Orinoco River as laid out in the original Schomburg Line.


Are we talking about the indiginous groups in Guyana or the majority afro and indo races of Guyana? What rights do both these groups have to South American land. Indos just arrived in the early 1800s. They were imported and then the colonial powers upped and left. That was never colonial land to gift. You acting as though there were not ppl already living on these caribbean islands before our ancestors were brought here.


So its the indigenous groups who ran the referendum, makes up the majority of the Venezuelan Govnt and would be on the front lines fighting?

Also when are you giving up your property to a tribe led by a man name Ricardo Bharath Hernandez?

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Redress10 » December 5th, 2023, 10:27 am

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Redress10 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Since colonial era boundaries are being debated Guyana probably should claim their Western boundary as the Orinoco River as laid out in the original Schomburg Line.


Are we talking about the indiginous groups in Guyana or the majority afro and indo races of Guyana? What rights do both these groups have to South American land. Indos just arrived in the early 1800s. They were imported and then the colonial powers upped and left. That was never colonial land to gift. You acting as though there were not ppl already living on these caribbean islands before our ancestors were brought here.


So its the indigenous groups who ran the referendum, makes up the majority of the Venezuelan Govnt and would be on the front lines fighting?


Are your descendants indigenous? What historic claim to land the current inhabitants of Guyana have? Ent Israel could claim biblical land?

Bro, this entire caribbean region could be called into question. You really feel Venezuela deep down don't consider TT part of theirs? Why you think they feel they could cross into our country so freely? Where you think that feeling of entitlement comes from?

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Dizzy28 » December 5th, 2023, 10:41 am

Redress10 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Since colonial era boundaries are being debated Guyana probably should claim their Western boundary as the Orinoco River as laid out in the original Schomburg Line.


Are we talking about the indiginous groups in Guyana or the majority afro and indo races of Guyana? What rights do both these groups have to South American land. Indos just arrived in the early 1800s. They were imported and then the colonial powers upped and left. That was never colonial land to gift. You acting as though there were not ppl already living on these caribbean islands before our ancestors were brought here.


So its the indigenous groups who ran the referendum, makes up the majority of the Venezuelan Govnt and would be on the front lines fighting?


Are your descendants indigenous? What historic claim to land the current inhabitants of Guyana have? Ent Israel could claim biblical land?


This has to be one of the most stupid rationales in all of liberaldom. Historically every country has been conquered and the peoples changed through admixture, migration etc.

Humans have been living in the Caribbean for 7,200 years and the natives Columbus met would have been non indigenous at a point in time prior.

Venezuela's claim has nothing to do with indigenous people but somehow here we are where you arguing on behalf of Maduro, a descendant of Sephardic Jews, not people well renowned for being indigenous to the Americas.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Redress10 » December 5th, 2023, 10:59 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Since colonial era boundaries are being debated Guyana probably should claim their Western boundary as the Orinoco River as laid out in the original Schomburg Line.


Are we talking about the indiginous groups in Guyana or the majority afro and indo races of Guyana? What rights do both these groups have to South American land. Indos just arrived in the early 1800s. They were imported and then the colonial powers upped and left. That was never colonial land to gift. You acting as though there were not ppl already living on these caribbean islands before our ancestors were brought here.


So its the indigenous groups who ran the referendum, makes up the majority of the Venezuelan Govnt and would be on the front lines fighting?


Are your descendants indigenous? What historic claim to land the current inhabitants of Guyana have? Ent Israel could claim biblical land?


This has to be one of the most stupid rationales in all of liberaldom. Historically every country has been conquered and the peoples changed through admixture, migration etc.

Humans have been living in the Caribbean for 7,200 years and the natives Columbus met would have been non indigenous at a point in time prior.

Venezuela's claim has nothing to do with indigenous people but somehow here we are where you arguing on behalf of Maduro, a descendant of Sephardic Jews, not people well renowned for being indigenous to the Americas.



You literally saying that borders are fluid but claiming that Venezuela have no right to contest a new border?

So if historically ppl have been conquered, isn't Venezuela now seeking to conquer Guyana?

Shouldn't Guyana be capable of defending themselves militarily if they have a legit claim to all that land mass?

Howcome Guyana has all that land mass and such a small population if historically land was gained via conquest?

Howcome they are not a major military power in south america?

Howcome no one trying to claim Russian land?

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Dizzy28 » December 5th, 2023, 11:05 am

Redress10 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Since colonial era boundaries are being debated Guyana probably should claim their Western boundary as the Orinoco River as laid out in the original Schomburg Line.


Are we talking about the indiginous groups in Guyana or the majority afro and indo races of Guyana? What rights do both these groups have to South American land. Indos just arrived in the early 1800s. They were imported and then the colonial powers upped and left. That was never colonial land to gift. You acting as though there were not ppl already living on these caribbean islands before our ancestors were brought here.


So its the indigenous groups who ran the referendum, makes up the majority of the Venezuelan Govnt and would be on the front lines fighting?


Are your descendants indigenous? What historic claim to land the current inhabitants of Guyana have? Ent Israel could claim biblical land?


This has to be one of the most stupid rationales in all of liberaldom. Historically every country has been conquered and the peoples changed through admixture, migration etc.

Humans have been living in the Caribbean for 7,200 years and the natives Columbus met would have been non indigenous at a point in time prior.

Venezuela's claim has nothing to do with indigenous people but somehow here we are where you arguing on behalf of Maduro, a descendant of Sephardic Jews, not people well renowned for being indigenous to the Americas.



You literally saying that borders are fluid but claiming that Venezuela have no right to contest a new border?

So if historically ppl have been conquered, isn't Venezuela now seeking to conquer Guyana?

Shouldn't Guyana be capable of defending themselves militarily if they have a legit claim to all that land mass?

Howcome Guyana has all that land mass and such a small population if historically land was gained via conquest?

Howcome they are not a major military power in south america?

Howcome no one trying to claim Russian land?


You are jumping like a fcuking kangaroo. Make up your mind what point you on.
I never said borders are fluid. I said indigenous people are not indigenous in a long enough timeline.

Anyhows have fun supporting Maduro. Your lines of rationale are becoming tiresome and this engagement painful.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Redress10 » December 5th, 2023, 11:23 am

So what you are saying is that borders drawn up by colonial powers are the only ones you are willing to recognise?

Where are the colonial powers today? They in Guyana and Venezuela?

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » December 5th, 2023, 11:57 am

List of south and Central American countries that has had its govt overthrown by the CIA since 1947
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0S9n1QuQit/

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby zoom rader » December 5th, 2023, 12:15 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:List of south and Central American countries that has had its govt overthrown by the CIA since 1947
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0S9n1QuQit/
That also includes Jamaica, Haiti, DR, Guyana & Grenada by CIA pulling strings

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Dohplaydat » December 5th, 2023, 12:43 pm

Honestly guys objectively I kinda see Venezuela's POV, no one will justify it though.

Anyways, Esequiba kinda looks like Florida.

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby MG Man » December 5th, 2023, 12:43 pm

VexXx Dogg wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:So Kamla sending warnings and talking greasy to Maduro now. On behalf of WHOOOOO?!!!
She not important at this stage and is just noise.



Yep.
Nearly everything she does reeks of desperation for attention, a lil bit again she could wear an orange jersey.


hoss imagine if she was in charge right now......she and Padarath woulda made one sticky mess

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby zoom rader » December 5th, 2023, 1:26 pm

MG Man wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
mero wrote:So Kamla sending warnings and talking greasy to Maduro now. On behalf of WHOOOOO?!!!
She not important at this stage and is just noise.



Yep.
Nearly everything she does reeks of desperation for attention, a lil bit again she could wear an orange jersey.


hoss imagine if she was in charge right now......she and Padarath woulda made one sticky mess
Dem busing dry coconuts?

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Redress10 » December 5th, 2023, 1:33 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:Honestly guys objectively I kinda see Venezuela's POV, no one will justify it though.

Anyways, Esequiba kinda looks like Florida.


And that is all ppl here saying. They may have a point and they may have some legitimacy for this claim. Ppl keep forgetting that Guyana in its current form is a separate entity from what the British controlled. Guyana's independence from Britain complicates things

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Re: Guyana-Venezuela border dispute

Postby Dizzy28 » December 5th, 2023, 1:43 pm

Redress10 wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:Honestly guys objectively I kinda see Venezuela's POV, no one will justify it though.

Anyways, Esequiba kinda looks like Florida.


And that is all ppl here saying. They may have a point and they may have some legitimacy for this claim. Ppl keep forgetting that Venezuela in its current form is a separate entity from what the Spanish controlled. Venezuela's independence from Spain complicates things

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