Cooking gas discussion

[eliteauto]

A National Petroleum Marketing Company (NP) board note has revealed that the board collectively decided to increase the price of LPG gas (cooking gas) through the implementation of a “service charge”.
The Trinidad and Tobago Petroleum Dealers Association (PDA) has therefore called on the entire board to resign, in light of the board note.
NP on Thursday issued a release apologising to Energy Minister Stuart Young for the proposed LPG price increase through a service charge, and blamed an employee whom it stated had no authorisation to issue communication with respect to such an increase.The move came after the Express discovered on Wednesday that an NP official had issued an internal e-mail authorising an increase in LPG through a service charge. The move was revealed on the heels of Finance Minister Colm Imbert saying on Monday that the subsidy on kerosene and LPG will continue.

Young has made it clear that the Government subsidy remains on LPG, which retails at $21 per 20-pound tank.
NP’s board Note No 61 of 2021 is headed, “Request for Approval to Implement Service Fee on the Sale of 20lb LPG Cylinders at NP Service Stations”.
The note stated that the board of directors considered board note number 61 and decided:
1. To implement an LPG service fee on the sale of 20-pound LPG cylinders at NP service stations;
2. To amend the existing dealers’ contract to facilitate the sharing of the respective LPG service fee 60:40, between the dealer and NP, respectively. Also, to allow the dealers’ the autonomy to set this service fee, in response to competition and price sensitivity consideration, specific to each service station.
Disingenuous and misleading
The PDA stated that the NP board must resign for the “odium and shame” they have brought on the company. The NP board comprises of Sahid Hosein (chairman), Marcus Knaggs, Nadine Nabie, Marilon David and Janille Huggins.
When this matter first received public attention, the PDA said the NPMC board said the instruction to increase the LPG price was ­unauthorised.
The PDA said it has become clear that the board of directors approved the decision to implement an increase in the price of LPG to the public, simply to attain additional rent.
The PDA stated that NP’s reve­nues of $3 billion affords them legal coverage and position to act in a manner to persecute citizens at will, and without consequences. The association said NP’s apology rings hollow, disingenuous, and misleading, and is but a ploy to ­retain their position.

“The chairman and the board of directors would never again be trusted by the public—so to show good faith we are calling on all involved in this ultra-vires decision to tender their resignations immediately to the Minister of Energy & Energy Industries, so that he can build trust in a new team going forward,” stated the PDA.

OWTU: Questions for NP chairman
On Thursday, Oilfields Workers’ Trade Union (OWTU) chief education and research officer Ozzie Warwick also spoke about the board note, saying the NP chairman has many questions to answer.
He said the board notes reveal that discussion of this took place in September.
In a Facebook video, Warwick said in his mailbox he found an “interesting” note from an NP board meeting held on September 15, 2021.
He read from the document, which spoke to a request for approval to implement a service fee on the sale of 20-pound LPG cylinders at NP service stations.
He said LPG is what most families use for cooking, as he noted food prices have already significantly increased.
He said the board note further stated it will amend the existing contract “to facilitate the sharing of the respective LPG Service fee 60/40 between the dealer and NP respectively”.
He expressed concern about giving dealers autonomy, as stated in the board note.
“So any service station from any­where in any part of Trinidad and Tobago can put whatever service fee they feel and will ensure they have an increase in their profit margins, and who you think will suffer?
“The board, the chairman, he has to answer to this,” said Warwick.
And Opposition MP David Lee said on Thursday that Young must take action against the board, and launch an investigation into the State company’s actions.
“Failure to remove, reprimand or take any action by the minister against the NP board and CEO would suggest that this was not a mere mistake, but a calculated one supported by the Government,” he stated in a release.
“Even more damning, it seems the NP board and CEO are playing smart with foolishness, as inside sources have suggested or alleged that NP intends to label these increased costs as ‘service charges’,” he stated.

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Total Gobar

It's time to move back to Gobar as fuel

If we did you'd corner the market

[pugboy]

so the extra $5 was a fast one they tried to pull on us or wha ?

Was there any correspondence to the end sellers of raising price ?
any leaks of memos to such ?

[zoom rader]

A National Petroleum Marketing Company (NP) board note has revealed that the board collectively decided to increase the price of LPG gas (cooking gas) through the implementation of a “service charge”.
The Trinidad and Tobago Petroleum Dealers Association (PDA) has therefore called on the entire board to resign, in light of the board note.
NP on Thursday issued a release apologising to Energy Minister Stuart Young for the proposed LPG price increase through a service charge, and blamed an employee whom it stated had no authorisation to issue communication with respect to such an increase.The move came after the Express discovered on Wednesday that an NP official had issued an internal e-mail authorising an increase in LPG through a service charge. The move was revealed on the heels of Finance Minister Colm Imbert saying on Monday that the subsidy on kerosene and LPG will continue.

Young has made it clear that the Government subsidy remains on LPG, which retails at $21 per 20-pound tank.
NP’s board Note No 61 of 2021 is headed, “Request for Approval to Implement Service Fee on the Sale of 20lb LPG Cylinders at NP Service Stations”.
The note stated that the board of directors considered board note number 61 and decided:
1. To implement an LPG service fee on the sale of 20-pound LPG cylinders at NP service stations;
2. To amend the existing dealers’ contract to facilitate the sharing of the respective LPG service fee 60:40, between the dealer and NP, respectively. Also, to allow the dealers’ the autonomy to set this service fee, in response to competition and price sensitivity consideration, specific to each service station.
Disingenuous and misleading
The PDA stated that the NP board must resign for the “odium and shame” they have brought on the company. The NP board comprises of Sahid Hosein (chairman), Marcus Knaggs, Nadine Nabie, Marilon David and Janille Huggins.
When this matter first received public attention, the PDA said the NPMC board said the instruction to increase the LPG price was ­unauthorised.
The PDA said it has become clear that the board of directors approved the decision to implement an increase in the price of LPG to the public, simply to attain additional rent.
The PDA stated that NP’s reve­nues of $3 billion affords them legal coverage and position to act in a manner to persecute citizens at will, and without consequences. The association said NP’s apology rings hollow, disingenuous, and misleading, and is but a ploy to ­retain their position.

“The chairman and the board of directors would never again be trusted by the public—so to show good faith we are calling on all involved in this ultra-vires decision to tender their resignations immediately to the Minister of Energy & Energy Industries, so that he can build trust in a new team going forward,” stated the PDA.

OWTU: Questions for NP chairman
On Thursday, Oilfields Workers’ Trade Union (OWTU) chief education and research officer Ozzie Warwick also spoke about the board note, saying the NP chairman has many questions to answer.
He said the board notes reveal that discussion of this took place in September.
In a Facebook video, Warwick said in his mailbox he found an “interesting” note from an NP board meeting held on September 15, 2021.
He read from the document, which spoke to a request for approval to implement a service fee on the sale of 20-pound LPG cylinders at NP service stations.
He said LPG is what most families use for cooking, as he noted food prices have already significantly increased.
He said the board note further stated it will amend the existing contract “to facilitate the sharing of the respective LPG Service fee 60/40 between the dealer and NP respectively”.
He expressed concern about giving dealers autonomy, as stated in the board note.
“So any service station from any­where in any part of Trinidad and Tobago can put whatever service fee they feel and will ensure they have an increase in their profit margins, and who you think will suffer?
“The board, the chairman, he has to answer to this,” said Warwick.
And Opposition MP David Lee said on Thursday that Young must take action against the board, and launch an investigation into the State company’s actions.
“Failure to remove, reprimand or take any action by the minister against the NP board and CEO would suggest that this was not a mere mistake, but a calculated one supported by the Government,” he stated in a release.
“Even more damning, it seems the NP board and CEO are playing smart with foolishness, as inside sources have suggested or alleged that NP intends to label these increased costs as ‘service charges’,” he stated.

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Total Gobar

It's time to move back to Gobar as fuel

If we did you'd corner the market

Hey I have the Cows for it.

Funny you should bring that up, I actually have a person that collects it for fuel.

[zoom rader]

so the extra $5 was a fast one they tried to pull on us or wha ?

Was there any correspondence to the end sellers of raising price ?
any leaks of memos to such ?

As imbert said "they ant riot yet"

[widdyphuck]

so the extra $5 was a fast one they tried to pull on us or wha ?

Was there any correspondence to the end sellers of raising price ?
any leaks of memos to such ?

As imbert said "they ant riot yet"

Yes it was a fast one. NP board must resign.

[zoom rader]

so the extra $5 was a fast one they tried to pull on us or wha ?

Was there any correspondence to the end sellers of raising price ?
any leaks of memos to such ?

As imbert said "they ant riot yet"

Yes it was a fast one. NP board must resign.

It's a measure that the red government uses time time again.

They test to see how much people will take and we live in a society where red government ppl are not that bright and will not pick up on these things

[pugboy]

they does forget quick

so the extra $5 was a fast one they tried to pull on us or wha ?

Was there any correspondence to the end sellers of raising price ?
any leaks of memos to such ?

As imbert said "they ant riot yet"

[zoom rader]

they does forget quick

so the extra $5 was a fast one they tried to pull on us or wha ?

Was there any correspondence to the end sellers of raising price ?
any leaks of memos to such ?

As imbert said "they ant riot yet"

It's the reason why they cut gate and limiting education in favor of waiters and chambermaids.

An educated population begins to think and ask questions.

But idiots like eliteauto-tuntun, Redman and habitarse 7 won't tell you that

[SuperiorMan]

When would they riot

[hover11]

When would they riot

Never, the only ppl who would riot are probably dead and gone, the generation now is more docile and most don't care about politics so the government does what it wants

[zoom rader]

When would they riot

Never, the only ppl who would riot are probably dead and gone, the generation now is more docile and most don't care about politics so the government does what it wants

That's not true.

During UNC there was always some tire burning or road blocking exercise headed by the red government.

As I said the red government wants to revert to a population where they don't think or ask questions.

[hover11]

When would they riot

Never, the only ppl who would riot are probably dead and gone, the generation now is more docile and most don't care about politics so the government does what it wants

That's not true.

During UNC there was always some tire burning or road blocking exercise headed by the red government.

As I said the red government wants to revert to a population where they don't think or ask questions.

Zoom where are those same protestors? What is keeping them quiet , where are the protests in the streets, where are the same ppl that shouted Kamla must go? It seems like red government has this country under a spell because everyone just quiet , not even a boo

[zoom rader]

When would they riot

Never, the only ppl who would riot are probably dead and gone, the generation now is more docile and most don't care about politics so the government does what it wants

That's not true.

During UNC there was always some tire burning or road blocking exercise headed by the red government.

As I said the red government wants to revert to a population where they don't think or ask questions.

Zoom where are those same protestors? What is keeping them quiet , where are the protests in the streets, where are the same ppl that shouted Kamla must go? It seems like red government has this country under a spell because everyone just quiet , not even a boo

Eliteauto-tuntun should know, when UNC was in power every day he blasted them on tuner and recently is very active in the UNC chead.

[timelapse]

Seems that Habit and dem still playing Wapei by the new pipe stand

[De Dragon]

Question, aren't we doing more harm than good keeping this subsidy running eventually we will have to cut it and reality will kick in, or are we leaving that for the other generation to handle it's not our problem along with everything else?

Short Tunts Impsy looking at the Riot-O-Meter to see if it could be done............

[bluefete]

The NP Board LIED.

The Minister, Stuart Young LIED!

I cannot stand Anil but this Board note says it all.

The Minister had to have known about the price increase.




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[pugboy]

ppl dun forget about this
a couple of us predicted a price increase

[zoom rader]

The NP Board LIED.

The Minister, Stuart Young LIED!

I cannot stand Anil but this Board note says it all.

The Minister had to have known about the price increase.




https://www.facebook.com/douglarpolitic ... 797397194/

Nutting new

People will still vote dem back in .

Jack arse country with with 320000 stupid idiots

[zoom rader]

ppl dun forget about this
a couple of us predicted a price increase

Dem studying dog where hinds ppl hit

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Kinda surprised this not being looked at as yet

[zoom rader]

Kinda surprised this not being looked at as yet

You have to wait for another distraction

[Dave]

Mid year review is upon us...who knows what would happen like a thief in the night.

[sMASH]

ramco advertising propane in the same 20lb cylinders for 38dollars on the same truck... i could see them passing and eventually keep running out of the lpg, and u need to cook so u HAVE to take the propane... and eventually they just stop the lpg.

[Dizzy28]

Kinda surprised this not being looked at as yet

Its not that big in the scheme of things and its directly linked to preparation of food. Last year the late Frankie said it LPG subsidy costs $200m annually (https://azpnews.com/khan-promises-20-lb ... ain-at-20/). In

When you consider its directly for food preparation and would disproportionately affect the lowest income earners its a low win subsidy to take away.

[timelapse]

ramco advertising propane in the same 20lb cylinders for 38dollars on the same truck... i could see them passing and eventually keep running out of the lpg, and u need to cook so u HAVE to take the propane... and eventually they just stop the lpg.

Old firewood does ketch easy.
Chulha in dey mc.

[sMASH]

ramco advertising propane in the same 20lb cylinders for 38dollars on the same truck... i could see them passing and eventually keep running out of the lpg, and u need to cook so u HAVE to take the propane... and eventually they just stop the lpg.

Old firewood does ketch easy.
Chulha in dey mc.

plant ur trees from now!!!

[timelapse]

ramco advertising propane in the same 20lb cylinders for 38dollars on the same truck... i could see them passing and eventually keep running out of the lpg, and u need to cook so u HAVE to take the propane... and eventually they just stop the lpg.

Old firewood does ketch easy.
Chulha in dey mc.

plant ur trees from now!!!

I have jamoon wood curing

[hover11]

Kinda surprised this not being looked at as yet

Its not that big in the scheme of things and its directly linked to preparation of food. Last year the late Frankie said it LPG subsidy costs $200m annually (https://azpnews.com/khan-promises-20-lb ... ain-at-20/). In

When you consider its directly for food preparation and would disproportionately affect the lowest income earners its a low win subsidy to take away.

Question remains how long can the government keep allocating such funds annually for such a Subsidy?

I would feel better if that 200 million went into agriculture every year, long term planning of food production in this country

[shake d livin wake d dead]

The only way that kinda money going into something "beneficial" is when a financier or familiar is the beneficiary

[De Dragon]

Kinda surprised this not being looked at as yet

Its not that big in the scheme of things and its directly linked to preparation of food. Last year the late Frankie said it LPG subsidy costs $200m annually (https://azpnews.com/khan-promises-20-lb ... ain-at-20/). In

When you consider its directly for food preparation and would disproportionately affect the lowest income earners its a low win subsidy to take away.

Question remains how long can the government keep allocating such funds annually for such a Subsidy?

I would feel better if that 200 million went into agriculture every year, long term planning of food production in this country

Don't mismanage the fack ut of a situation, and then turn around to make the adjustment difficult. ALL GORTT's had YEARS to start chipping away at the subsidies. Bitter medicine in small doses is better than having to swallow all at once.