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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby hydroep » October 10th, 2016, 6:58 am

The moderators, especially the one from ABC, were more lenient with Hilary allowing her more speaking time and opportunities to respond. Only after Trump called them on their BS and started ignoring the warnings directed at him did they pull up their socks.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby RASC » October 10th, 2016, 7:10 am

Trump beat her handsomely in this debate. It wasn't even close. On trade she was destroyed. On the Wikileaks and her untrustworthy of behavior on emails. Destroyed. On Obama care she was destroyed, on energy he beat her on terrorism he beat her and when the moderators tried to go for this game outrage over the video... He destroyed her especially with the counteracting of Bill Clinton the rapist who she endorsed, and defended and then went after the women demonizing them.

Also when they were entering and leaving she had to be helped up first by Chelsea and then down by Bill... She's sick.

Her last answer was a total muck up and Trump was very gracious and honest. The guy is a straight shooter and certain easily offended parts of the population can't stand that.

Words matter to them... Issues and policy matter to real people.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby daas » October 10th, 2016, 7:17 am

Trump looked better but only delusional Trump supporters think that he 'won'. Having said that, Clinton didn't look that good either but hypothetically she did not lose (I would only expect the CNN poll to have her 'win').

The problem for Trump is that people have already started voting and he is behind in virtually every battleground (as much as twelve points in states that he NEEDS to win to just stand a chance of winning the presidency). A significant portion of Americans have already formed their opinion of him so his performance would have done little to change otherwise. By staying in the race he has paradoxically strengthened Clinton because Republicans are now stuck with him.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Daran » October 10th, 2016, 7:37 am

Trump has this election.

Let's see how the liberal media spins this.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby bluesclues » October 10th, 2016, 9:16 am

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Nuff said. 30 years in power, did nothing about the problem u complaining about. Unable to get a voting majority on the bills then trump is right u were a weak and ineffective senator. That will translate into the presidency.

Hillary has extensive experience with national security issues. Trump is smart to keep his ears cocked and hands in military circles to be informed as much as possible to rival her on that topic. But at this stage america needs to strengthen relations with russia and iran if they want the region to simmer down, since it is their neighbors. And they have to live right next to them. The best chance of that comes from trump, as hillary, the spike collar wearing chihuahua, will most certainly throw america into war conflict again. She will just try do it differently as she realized the error of sending ground troops into the area from iraq.

Anyway, constitutional judges, defending the second ammendment, allowing interstate insurance company competition to reduce rates and cut down monopolies just waiting to grow to be 'too big to fail' and require a bailout. These ideas will favour a great majority of americans. You want to tax the rich and wealthy, then you want someone who understands the tax system well as well as the belief and support of individual constituional rights for balance in creating the legislation. Claiming for depreciation is not illegal, it is a loss after all.

If it were up to the debate, trump would win. Forget the cnn poll. If i told u a thing or two about polls and how sometimes one person can vote 50 times ud understand why the polls are misleading. Also forget the primaries. Remember what i said.. its all about delegates.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Morpheus » October 10th, 2016, 9:43 am

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby daas » October 10th, 2016, 10:04 am

^^ and federal taxes

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby teems1 » October 10th, 2016, 10:08 am

Daran wrote:Trump has this election.

Let's see how the liberal media spins this.


Quite the opposite I'm afraid.

In face he guaranteed he lost it yesterday after saying he wants to put judges like Scalia on the SCOTUS. Chances are he'll be able to appoint 2 judges (one to replace Scalia and when RBG finally steps down).

The evangelicals won't mind that, but they do not make up the bulk of conservatives. The majority of conservatives know there is a shift to the center and being a right wing nutjob crusader like Scalia does more harm than good.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby toyolink » October 10th, 2016, 12:58 pm

Democracy gone insane seems to be another global event.
Pie in the sky governance has become a viable option it seems.
I really hope that countries don't have to experience total 'break-down' before good sense and values kick back in.
What a bitter an brutally fragment place the USA is today.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » October 10th, 2016, 1:43 pm

RASC wrote:Trump beat her handsomely in this debate. It wasn't even close. On trade she was destroyed. On the Wikileaks and her untrustworthy of behavior on emails. Destroyed. On Obama care she was destroyed, on energy he beat her on terrorism he beat her and when the moderators tried to go for this game outrage over the video... He destroyed her especially with the counteracting of Bill Clinton the rapist who she endorsed, and defended and then went after the women demonizing them.

Also when they were entering and leaving she had to be helped up first by Chelsea and then down by Bill... She's sick.

Her last answer was a total muck up and Trump was very gracious and honest. The guy is a straight shooter and certain easily offended parts of the population can't stand that.

Words matter to them... Issues and policy matter to real people.


^ THIS and what people here fail to realize is the reason Trump won is because it was a 3 on 1 game in the mind of right thinking people they give Trump more points given the disadvantaged situation where he was outnumbered by bias CNN and ABC mods just imagine you have mods in a debate that endorsed Hillary who spend all day bashing Trump and praising Hillary. LOL

In the end what matters is jobs, security and a future for yourself and your kids. The wikileaks exposed Hillary for who she really is, a globalist who conspired with wallstreet for open borders to bring in countless people to drive down wages and distress Americans and shipping the remaining American jobs to China. People know and understand this very well. Whenever there is a leak of these 2 candidates guess what happens? its just something about Trump celebrity days picking fights with celebrities etc nonsense like that which people doesn't even give half a sheit. But when there are leaks about Hillary its always serious corruption, her selling out the American people for her rich friends. Trump's biggest advantage in this election is that he is not a politician. And when people look at someone like Hillary who has been there for over 30 years and they look at Trump they see a man who is not yet tainted and corrupted by politics they see him as the game changer.

Trump got her with clean coal, with natural gas, with drugs poisoning young people literally everything that actually matters to people.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby RASC » October 10th, 2016, 1:47 pm

People think oooooo you support Trump you must be an idiot.

Don't understand that this is an election of establishment vs. Non establishment. This is Brexit 2.0

Brexit was a fight against establishment big fat cats sitting in Brussels and Berlin telling you in Newcastle who to take in your city... How you should be fishing and what industry you allowed to push. It was a fight against big government.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » October 10th, 2016, 1:56 pm

^ Yup and thanks to Merkel the Brits got their Brexit. The British people realized that once they are in the EU whatever Merkel says will be law. So they just looked around, they saw how many people everyday is being slaughtered, raped etc in France, Germany and many other parts of Europe ever since this crazy ass woman started her open door policy. The right thinking Brits got out while they could.

And right thinking Americans are going to vote in Trump while they still can, they won't get another chance after this. Hillary literally shot herself in the foot last night when she said she is still going to take in hundreds of thousands of syrian refugees. When she said that she basically confirmed the suspicion that everyone else has. After she said that she ensured Brexit 2.0 is going to happen with Trump.

Because at the end of the day people looking at all the terrorist attacks in the US and Germany etc and trust me none of them want more of that sheit in the US. People prefer Trump's idea, keep those people in their own country and build safe zones for them there. The gulf states have a lot of money and aren't doing sheit.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » October 10th, 2016, 2:05 pm

This is a good article about how Clinton got rich off Haiti, and Bill O Reilly spoke of this many times about all these frauds taking advantage of the Hatians with their so called crooked foundations from Wyclef Jean to Clinton foundation a bunch of crooks.
O Reilly is the only one who ensures that his money going to Haiti from the O Reilly foundation is used properly and actually gets to the poor people who needs it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... foundation

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby teems1 » October 10th, 2016, 3:33 pm

RASC wrote:People think oooooo you support Trump you must be an idiot.

Don't understand that this is an election of establishment vs. Non establishment. This is Brexit 2.0

Brexit was a fight against establishment big fat cats sitting in Brussels and Berlin telling you in Newcastle who to take in your city... How you should be fishing and what industry you allowed to push. It was a fight against big government.


Most polls show Hillary at 11+ points. Even the historically conservative polls have Hillary winning with 7+.

This November is going to be a bloodbath.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby Daran » October 10th, 2016, 4:06 pm

teems1 wrote:
RASC wrote:People think oooooo you support Trump you must be an idiot.

Don't understand that this is an election of establishment vs. Non establishment. This is Brexit 2.0

Brexit was a fight against establishment big fat cats sitting in Brussels and Berlin telling you in Newcastle who to take in your city... How you should be fishing and what industry you allowed to push. It was a fight against big government.


Most polls show Hillary at 11+ points. Even the historically conservative polls have Hillary winning with 7+.

This November is going to be a bloodbath.


Firstly polls leading up to an election are hardly accurate with many people claiming to be undecided. Most of those undecided are disenfranchised republicans who will end up voting Trump.

The most accurate usage of polls would be what FiveThirtyEight provides. A statistical analysis of all polls, a poll of polls if you will, weighted by past accuracy and normalized to reduce bias.

They have Hilldog's lead over Trump at 6pts. However, it's important to note that twice in the campaign Trump was tied or winning.

I think there''s a lot of hidden support for Trump. Remember Brexit polls showed 2pts opposite of what actually happened. Look into the Trump-effect in polling, lots of people are afraid to admit they're a Trump supported when asked by another person, due to the stigma attached.

This is neck and neck my friend.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby RASC » October 10th, 2016, 4:12 pm

Exactly!!

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby De Dragon » October 10th, 2016, 6:12 pm

teems1 wrote:
RASC wrote:People think oooooo you support Trump you must be an idiot.

Don't understand that this is an election of establishment vs. Non establishment. This is Brexit 2.0

Brexit was a fight against establishment big fat cats sitting in Brussels and Berlin telling you in Newcastle who to take in your city... How you should be fishing and what industry you allowed to push. It was a fight against big government.


Most polls show Hillary at 11+ points. Even the historically conservative polls have Hillary winning with 7+.

This November is going to be a bloodbath.
You have to understand that RASC and ED know more than scientific pollsters, US women, African Americans and several GOP members and Mike Pence.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby RASC » October 10th, 2016, 6:21 pm

Trump isn't a Republican tho so the GOP establishment is a non issue.
Secondly AA are tied in with thr democratic party by the hip, and ain't no swaying them they've been brainwashed onto the urban plantation. Funny enough tho... Blacks are polling higher on Trump than McCain and Romney... Hmm maybe cause they're figuring out he's not a Republican??? And as they say... He keeps it "100"
Women are emotional creatures.. Hell they gave JFK the election due to his looks vs content at the first ever televised debate. Trump is straight forward and direct... Women HATE when you give them news direct. They get offended for nearly everything.. You probably don't have a woman so you're not used to that. Now you know.

But polls are but just a snap shot... They do not look at the full picture, and nor are they always accurate. Case in point... Brexit. Bet you never saw that one coming did you... What about the FARC vote in Colombia... Opps didn't see that one did you either?

Stop being so emotional and look at the actual issues

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby De Dragon » October 10th, 2016, 6:35 pm

RASC wrote:Trump isn't a Republican tho so the GOP establishment is a non issue.
Secondly AA are tied in with thr democratic party by the hip, and ain't no swaying them they've been brainwashed onto the urban plantation. Funny enough tho... Blacks are polling higher on Trump than McCain and Romney... Hmm maybe cause they're figuring out he's not a Republican??? And as they say... He keeps it "100"
Women are emotional creatures.. Hell they gave JFK the election due to his looks vs content at the first ever televised debate. Trump is straight forward and direct... Women HATE when you give them news direct. They get offended for nearly everything.. You probably don't have a woman so you're not used to that. Now you know.

But polls are but just a snap shot... They do not look at the full picture, and nor are they always accurate. Case in point... Brexit. Bet you never saw that one coming did you... What about the FARC vote in Colombia... Opps didn't see that one did you either?

Stop being so emotional and look at the actual issues

Stop pretending to be American or knowledgeable about their politics.
When your own running mate condemns your actions three weeks before an election you're in trouble. When your House Speaker not only condemns, but bails on you prior to a rally, you're in trouble. When one third of your own GOP senators say they will not support you, you're in trouble.
Pseudo-macho wannabees like RASC, who like coonoomoonoo when dey around ah 'oman, trying to align deyself with misogynistic Trump and his failing campaign. :lol:

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby RASC » October 10th, 2016, 6:37 pm

You're clearly out of your depth if you don't realize that Trump isn't a Republican and that he's simply running on the GOP ticket for convenience.

It's okay go Google it. We'll wait.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » October 10th, 2016, 8:39 pm

RASC wrote:Trump isn't a Republican tho so the GOP establishment is a non issue.
Secondly AA are tied in with thr democratic party by the hip, and ain't no swaying them they've been brainwashed onto the urban plantation. Funny enough tho... Blacks are polling higher on Trump than McCain and Romney... Hmm maybe cause they're figuring out he's not a Republican??? And as they say... He keeps it "100"
Women are emotional creatures.. Hell they gave JFK the election due to his looks vs content at the first ever televised debate. Trump is straight forward and direct... Women HATE when you give them news direct. They get offended for nearly everything.. You probably don't have a woman so you're not used to that. Now you know.

But polls are but just a snap shot... They do not look at the full picture, and nor are they always accurate. Case in point... Brexit. Bet you never saw that one coming did you... What about the FARC vote in Colombia... Opps didn't see that one did you either?

Stop being so emotional and look at the actual issues


^ This

I said it on this same thread a while back, Trump is more of a center liberal that managed to slip his way into a dysfunctional GOP, the clue is in the fact that Ivanka Trump is a liberal democrat financier. Trump's plan of ending the outsourcing of American jobs to China puts a dent into the top 1%. Bernie Sanders supporters know this, this is why you notice as soon as Hillary won the race and Wikileaks revealed how Hillary and Debbie cheated Bernie out of the race you notice we don't see anymore Bernie Protesters at Trump rally? just the 1 or 2 Hillary ones once in a blue moon?

Trump has a lot of the Bernie supporters who feel cheated over what happened and they realize the closest thing they are going to get out of the Sanders vision is from Trump who is fighting the special interest as we speak, hillary isn't she is financed and backed by these same 1%. Trump said he has the sanders supporters, this is partly true and it will be enough to end Hillary at the polls.

Now if wikileaks didn't publish all those stuff about Hillary and if Bernie was heading the Democrat party it would be a different ball game. But as it stands, faith just so has it that Trump is in the right place at the right time and this comes right after the uprising of the right and far right in Europe. Somehow Trump has been perfectly positioned with this election.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby RASC » October 10th, 2016, 8:42 pm

If it were Bernie vs Trump. Bernie would've won.
But Trump vs Hillary. He crushes her... The people are sick and tired of politicians and the establishment.

The guy is goofy he says crazy things and that's what people want... A NORMAL Person...not a freaking script.

The guy is a billionaire who regular people can get along with. That's a very rare gift

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » October 10th, 2016, 8:49 pm

RASC wrote:If it were Bernie vs Trump. Bernie would've won.
But Trump vs Hillary. He crushes her... The people are sick and tired of politicians and the establishment.

The guy is goofy he says crazy things and that's what people want... A NORMAL Person...not a freaking script.

The guy is a billionaire who regular people can get along with. That's a very rare gift



yeah exactly This is one of the most unbelievable things I have ever seen in American politics it is reminiscent of when Ronald Reagan became President at a time when the world was on the brink of nuclear war and the world needed Reagan to be President, somehow the forces that be had Reagan positioned to become President and even more coincidentally as soon as the Soviet Union Collapsed Ronald Reagan developed Alzheimer disease.

This turn of events with a man like Trump with this much support isn't normal, and how normal people like him this much shows what is happening. Normally Trump would not stand a chance at any American Presidential Election yet he is crushing Clinton. And here is another thing, people believe Trump because well he is 70 years old, a billionaire and if was anyone like him they would be living on a beach in the Bahamas. Yet he is there fighting an election, this is an indication of him being for the people.

Why is a 70 year old Billionaire with nothing more to live for torturing himself with this election race, can't even get a decent sleep anymore? When he could do like everyother billionaire and live out his life in his Beach House in the Bahamas or St Martin? This is why so many people Trust Trump.


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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby sMASH » October 10th, 2016, 10:39 pm

Trump isn't a republican, just like Bernie wasn't really a democrat.
The only reason why its trump vs Hillary, was because the republicans were democratic, and the democrats weren't. [Cough]Super delegates[/cough] [cough]election fraud[/cough]

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby AbstractPoetic » October 10th, 2016, 11:47 pm

:| @ the entire latter half of this thread.

As an actual voter in this election, who is neither a registered Democrat nor Republican, I am telling you there is no way Trump is winning this election.

Mitt Romney lost the 2012 general election despite having 93% of the Republican votes. Trump has the support of approximately 55% of Republican voters and is losing that base by the hour. The math is against him.

But here is the important takeaway: Trump cannot win this election with the sole support of White Male voters. He simply cannot. He has shunned most every minority voter that matters (Hispanics and African American voters) and has long lost the support of most white women voters. College-educated voters are also a stronghold for Hillary. Couple this with the current state of the Republican Party that wants nothing to do with him, and its a signed, sealed and delivered election win for Madam President-Elect, Hillary Clinton.

This is also one of the most important elections given the vacancy in the US Supreme Court. Anyone who has read the opinions of the late Justice Scalia knows that he is highly biased, and some would say, downright racist. For a presidential candidate to consider Scalia the epitome of what he is looking for in a Supreme Court justice, is a man we cannot have near the White House.

Hillary may have her ways, but she is far more level-headed a candidate who can respect differing viewpoints and not make a decision on emotion.

She has my vote come November. And for the sake of the world, you should pray she is elected.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby AbstractPoetic » October 10th, 2016, 11:51 pm

RASC wrote:If it were Bernie vs Trump. Bernie would've won.
But Trump vs Hillary. He crushes her... The people are sick and tired of politicians and the establishment.

The guy is goofy he says crazy things and that's what people want... A NORMAL Person...not a freaking script.

The guy is a billionaire who regular people can get along with. That's a very rare gift


You can't be serious. I have it on good authority that Trump has far from what he professes to have in assets. Billionaire? LOL. Even Warren Buffet called him out on his BS.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby AbstractPoetic » October 11th, 2016, 12:00 am

RASC wrote:Trump beat her handsomely in this debate. It wasn't even close. On trade she was destroyed. On the Wikileaks and her untrustworthy of behavior on emails. Destroyed. On Obama care she was destroyed, on energy he beat her on terrorism he beat her and when the moderators tried to go for this game outrage over the video... He destroyed her especially with the counteracting of Bill Clinton the rapist who she endorsed, and defended and then went after the women demonizing them.

Also when they were entering and leaving she had to be helped up first by Chelsea and then down by Bill... She's sick.

Her last answer was a total muck up and Trump was very gracious and honest. The guy is a straight shooter and certain easily offended parts of the population can't stand that.

Words matter to them... Issues and policy matter to real people.


Were you watching the same debate?

Not once did Trump actually ANSWER the questions presented.
Not once did he lay out his new healthcare plan, only to call it "something better" than Obamacare.
Not once did he explain what replaces the IRS tax scheme, and HOW it will affect taxpayers.

All I heard was "big-ly" this, "disaster" that, and a whole lot of sniffing and deflection on ACTUAL issues.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » October 11th, 2016, 12:55 am

Bill O Reilly said Trump won the Debate and Mr O Reilly is the most fair person I can think off in that whole crooked American media.

Don't rule out Trump winning just yet, anything is possible. Ent all the polls said Brexit would lose, Rowley would lose etc? and the complete opposite happened? polls these days can't be trusted.


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Re: US Presidential Election 2016

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » October 11th, 2016, 1:11 am

AbstractPoetic wrote:
This is also one of the most important elections given the vacancy in the US Supreme Court. Anyone who has read the opinions of the late Justice Scalia knows that he is highly biased, and some would say, downright racist. For a presidential candidate to consider Scalia the epitome of what he is looking for in a Supreme Court justice, is a man we cannot have near the White House.


Justice Scalia is a big supporter of the First and Second Amendments that is sort of the whole point in appointing him. The Gallup polls show that most liberal Americans are now in favor of criminalizing free speech and disarming the citizens. The First and Second Amendment is under siege by people from the left like Hillary. Her clever judges will attempt to chisel away at it and abolish it if they could.

Don't rule out Trump just yet, I remember when all the polls said Brexit would lose and PNM would lose and the complete opposite happened.

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