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cherrypopper wrote:tr1ad wrote:pugboy wrote:Manning took over Air Jamaica last time and put CAL to run it.
so maybe Rowley can take over Arcelor Mittal and localize it
hand it straight to the union to run for themselves
a true win win situation for everybody
would the union be capable and willing of handling this ?
ansa coming to save the day
This recession is ansa ticket to owning everything. . When all is bought you will hear economy bounce back. .
DatManiac wrote:If the steel industry so badly off, how come nu iron plant still pumpin. They have exactly the same type of plant. Plant producing like normal. Guess is how you manage your money.
zoom rader wrote:cherrypopper wrote:tr1ad wrote:pugboy wrote:Manning took over Air Jamaica last time and put CAL to run it.
so maybe Rowley can take over Arcelor Mittal and localize it
hand it straight to the union to run for themselves
a true win win situation for everybody
would the union be capable and willing of handling this ?
ansa coming to save the day
This recession is ansa ticket to owning everything. . When all is bought you will hear economy bounce back. .
I said all this before but the clowns on Tuner cant see this.
Now is the time to buy ANSA shares
RASC wrote:zoom rader wrote:cherrypopper wrote:tr1ad wrote:pugboy wrote:Manning took over Air Jamaica last time and put CAL to run it.
so maybe Rowley can take over Arcelor Mittal and localize it
hand it straight to the union to run for themselves
a true win win situation for everybody
would the union be capable and willing of handling this ?
ansa coming to save the day
This recession is ansa ticket to owning everything. . When all is bought you will hear economy bounce back. .
I said all this before but the clowns on Tuner cant see this.
Now is the time to buy ANSA shares
Iron Ore Prices looking to rebound. It had a volatile week... Maybe signs that its gonna break through resistance?
yohyoh wrote:De Dragon AM has three DRI plants versus NuIron has only one.
Those DR plants were the only profitable plants at AM.
Billets and wire rods were only incurring losses.
yohyoh wrote:Most were exported. DRI was the biggest exporter of all their products.
pete wrote:The market for it dried up I guess. Think ANSA really wants to buy into a company with massive losses then try to turn that around while fighting with a union and competing against the very company that owned the plant and already has established markets to sell to?
I could be wrong but that doesn't seem to be the kind of business theyre into.
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Rowley distorting facts on closure of ArcelorMittal plant
Prime Minister Dr. Keith Rowley issued a media statement Saturday expressing "sadness and deep disappointment" over the decision by ArcelorMittal to close its steel producing business at Point Lisas.
He stated that it was done "on the heels of a decision where the workers had their rights defended in a Superior Court of Record" and charged that the decision was taken "without reference or discussion with the Government of Trinidad and Tobago".
That statement contradicts his Labour Minister, Jennifer Baptiste-Primus, who was quoted in the Trinidad Guardian on Saturday (March 12) as stating that she received two letters from the company, one of which advised her of the proposed closure and sought a meeting.
According to the Guardian report, the minister stated that she had other scheduled matters and could not meet with the company.
So Dr. Rowley was misleading citizens when he claimed that the steel company took its decision without reference or discussion with the government.
The other issue of note, is that the letter was sent to the labour minister before the judgment of the Industrial Court so it is clear that ArcelorMittal was contemplating closure before the court handed down its decision and that it wanted to meet the government to talk about it. But the labour minister was too busy.
What is even more worrisome in the claim by the Prime Minister that the company’s actions were "punitive and disrespectful in the extreme" without providing any evidence to support his assertion.
And while censuring the company he appeared to be conciliatory, stating that "the Ministry of Trade and Industry and the Ministry of Finance stand ready to re-engage ArcelorMittal on these far reaching developments".
He added, "…it is our expectation that...there is still room for the country and the investor to talk and work our way out of these very real difficulties.”
Why didn't Dr. Rowley and his government think about these things before? Instead of dialogue they behaved with typical arrogance in dealing with a multinational corporation that operates in sixty countries with assets of TT$500 billion. And the bullying approach backfired.
Could the minister not make an adjustment to her schedule to meet with the company? After all the jobs of 700 people were at stake, not to mention the economic fallout from the closure of a company that pays millions in taxes and buys goods and services amounting to tens of millions of dollars annually.And it had been doing it for 27 years!
The minister admitted in her comments in the Guardian that she knew the company wanted to discuss closing its operations but still did not see it important enough to meet with the company. Yet the prime minister concluded that the company's decision was "punitive and disrespectful in the extreme".
Dr. Rowley also distorted reality by presenting half truths about the history of the steel company in Trinidad and Tobago.
The Eric Williams PNM government built the Iron and Steel company (ISCOTT) at Point Lisas against the advice and better judgment of experts. ISCOTT had poor management, a lack of expertise and no global marketing skills.
ISCOTT became a national parasite, consuming more than one million dollars a day in subsidy, which the Chambers government continued to pour into the company until the PNM was voted out of office.
In 1989, the NAR government of Prime Minister A.N.R. Robinson sold ISCOTT to the Mittal family, which had been operating a company known as Ispat International since 1978. Ispat was already a major player in the international steel industry when it bought ISCOTT and renamed it Caribbean Ispat; in 2006 it became part of the ArcelorMittal multinational steel company.
The owner, Lakshmi Mittal, made the company profitable within a year without laying off workers or amending their terms of employment. In other words he saved the government about $400 million a year in subsidy alone and since 1989 has been paying millions in taxes and buying goods and services, while maintaining full employment.
So Rowley was telling a half truth and deliberately misleading citizens by suggesting that "a local steel industry, which was funded and nurtured by local taxpayers, then fell into the investment hands of Mittal, which with our continued support and sacrifice, went on to become a world power in the steel industry."
Rowley is wrong. There was no support and no sacrifice from T&T as he claimed. In fact it was the flip side of his claim; Caribbean Ispat provided an economic lifeline to the country at a time when Trinidad and Tobago was facing a severe recession. And the company remained a fixture in Trinidad and Tobago's industrial landscape for decades, providing jobs and pumping millions in revenue into the T&T economy until it started facing losses in 2009. Still it remained at Point Lisas until the government changed and the new administration put hurdles in the way with new policies that the company saw as a hindrance to continuing to do business.
The Rowley PNM government’s arrogance and refusal to meet with the company contributed to the closure of the plant, which was a part of the biggest steel operation on the planet. The government's harsh economic policies also influenced the company's decision.
BIG PLAYER
In 2006 Mittal created ArcelorMittal with its headquarters in Luxembourg. The multinational company, with plants in 19 countries and significant investments in 60 countries, had assets of US$76.84B (approx. TT$500B) in 2015 and revenue of US$63.57B (approx. TT$414B). This was no corner store!
Like any multinational company its principal interest was in making money for its shareholders. It owed no allegiance to any government anywhere and if the Rowley government had not acted with arrogance the story could have had a different conclusion.
The Prime Minister’s distortion of the facts and baseless accusation against the company demonstrate that he is not really willing to keep ArcelorMittal here. He is, as usual, hoodwinking the people with false claims and distortion of facts. No one enters a mediation by hurling insults while saying you want to negotiate in good faith.
The real losers in this whole affair are the workers, their families and the others whose lives revolved around the steel plant. And if Rowley doesn't change his approach he would face an exodus of foreign capital because those who bring money here as investment are first and foremost doing it for their shareholders, not to be nice to Trinidad and Tobago.
Jai Parasram | 13 March 2016
acesinghit wrote:I remember when I lost my job I had to re-adjust my spending (a lifestyle adjustment). Swallow your pride and get out there and find a job. There are countless opportunities out-there, my advise to any AM employee who may be a bit timid to admit of the job loss and admitedly so, find a job! Anything you can get, take it! Be it a bank teller, a kiosk operator in a mall, a gas station pump attendant or going into gardening and car washing. Do something productive with your time because your family is more than worth it. Small ting to give up your new SUV. Dial back and get a local used or foreign used but never give up. They could take away your job but your qualifications/education/experience, family and most importantly your health is your wealth!
zoom rader wrote:Ansa had always been involved with heavy industry, they actually build plants and have technical staff.
Once plant sold without workers then they have no union to deal with.
Master stroke, get rid of workers. Sell plant and open new company without any unions to deal with.
This all sounds like it was pre planed and I bet PNM knew what's going on long before
The Rowley PNM government’s arrogance and refusal to meet with the company contributed to the closure of the plant, which was a part of the biggest steel operation on the planet. The government's harsh economic policies also influenced the company's decision.
EmilioA wrote:zoom rader wrote:Ansa had always been involved with heavy industry, they actually build plants and have technical staff.
Once plant sold without workers then they have no union to deal with.
Master stroke, get rid of workers. Sell plant and open new company without any unions to deal with.
This all sounds like it was pre planed and I bet PNM knew what's going on long before
So you dont want Govt to own IT and you dont want the Syrians to own it. So what is your solution. Leave it shut down ?
BRZ wrote:Why oh why would a government want to take over and buy out a company that is DEEP DEEP in DEBT in such a bad economic time? Some of those people who work for the company yes I would understand that they would want their jobs back at any cost, but for onlookers with nothing to gain, use some common sense please. Don't be a union jacka55 !
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