HAPPENING NOW PARIS TERROR ATTACK- NOW GERMANY

[Dizzy28]

Most isis fighters are not born Muslims,they were criminals who had no way to turn but to this band of psychos who has it all wrong.Allah said fight yr oppressors but spare the woman,children and innocent. He warned that 1 should never use fire to kill or torture,that is forbidden and reserved for him only on judgement day yet these fools go against his orders and kill and slaughter the innocent in the name of islam

is a born Muslim better than one who only just converted?

There are no converts in Islam Duane...we are all born Muslim and revert when we see the light!!!!

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Most isis fighters are not born Muslims,they were criminals who had no way to turn but to this band of psychos who has it all wrong.Allah said fight yr oppressors but spare the woman,children and innocent. He warned that 1 should never use fire to kill or torture,that is forbidden and reserved for him only on judgement day yet these fools go against his orders and kill and slaughter the innocent in the name of islam

is a born Muslim better than one who only just converted?

There are no converts in Islam Duane...we are all born Muslim and revert when we see the light!!!!

I should have known better, I've edited it to say revert instead of convert.

[Dizzy28]

^ Jokes on them though.....everyone are actually born Hindu!!!!

[Slartibartfast]

But what was everyone born as before Islam? Were people even born before?

[Redman]

So this is a great reason to encourage responsible ownership of fire arms amongst the citizenry of TnT.

Agreed 100 %.

Are you mad? Are you not seeing what is going on in the USA? Who's to say a schizophrenic would not get a gun or more close to home, a rabbis racist with plenty free time and plenty problems? Sorry, that is not a viable measure

So what's your solution ?
We can't stop any one from entering Trinidad.
And there is a sheit loan of guns here...illegally.

So if you accept those two facts ..what's your viable solution?
Hope it happen to someone else?

[bluesclues]

Everything that is and was, were/is made....There must be a creator!

Who created the Creator ?

No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being.

God’s existence is underived; no one made him. He simply always was.

Well youre just contradicting yourself arent you. Didnt you say everything is made ?

the simple answer is..

in this universe the rule is, everything has to be made by something. we see it all the time. we know something cannot come from nothing because that is all we see. we have never seen something come from nothing and so we know that the law, governing this universe is you have to have something to start with to make something else.

that is the law for INSIDE THIS UNIVERSE. and so it was made to proclaim these perceived laws. the problem is, u dont know the laws that govern a world, OUTSIDE of this universe.

simply imagine that there can be universes with different rules governing its operation. God simply exists at the very baseline of OUR universe. and this is why he is our God. in his world the rules which govern how God came into being are simply beyond our logic to process. the physical laws set inside this universe is what makes the baseline appear to be nothing. but we know its something. we just having trouble making sensible interaction with it.

so we are creations with a logical ruleset governing us, that was created within a world of fantasy. the fantasy world which governs this one is shielded off, and all we experience is the physical reality as it was programmed. we do have interaction with the fantasy baseline but it is separate.

there is a logic to everything but from a lower level of understanding some things will appear illogical. there are also symbolic and metaphorical concepts that are all pervading. creating something from nothing sounds illogical. but when you think about 'empty space' as it is defined in physics and the fact that empty space contains seemingly infinite amounts of hidden/dark energy. and dark energy can be used to convert and create any atom u want in the universe. meaning, lets say a machine was finally created with science, that can build things by constructing atoms out of dark energy empty space. you realize that the words... creating something from nothing can have meaning after all. just now you finally have a label for something u always used to call.. nothing.

[Trinispougla]

So this is a great reason to encourage responsible ownership of fire arms amongst the citizenry of TnT.

Agreed 100 %.

Are you mad? Are you not seeing what is going on in the USA? Who's to say a schizophrenic would not get a gun or more close to home, a rabbis racist with plenty free time and plenty problems? Sorry, that is not a viable measure

So what's your solution ?
We can't stop any one from entering Trinidad.
And there is a sheit loan of guns here...illegally.

So if you accept those two facts ..what's your viable solution?
Hope it happen to someone else?

Strict surveillance. The number of isis fighters cant be more than 100 and even if there are some serious zealots among that group, the vas majority of them are from the criminal underworld here. So you know where they live or are expected to live. One hundred people is very easy to keep tabs on. It's not like france where the number is about 2000 all over a very big space. Trinidad is tiny

[Redman]

Sounds nice ...
How realistic do you think it is given the reality of our current realities in TnT?

Some one bandied about that there are 250 000 outstanding unserved warrants.
If that's correct it's an indication of the difficulty to monitor and find individuals that don't want to be found.

Your viable solution is based on nothing but emotion...certainly not awareness of the truth.

I'm saying having a system that is transparent relevant clear and efficient....allows the arming of citizens so inclined and so qualified.


That makes the possibility of stopping a jihadist rampage....and clearly saving lives increases exponentially.

And isn't that the goal..?

[GabrielBad]

Everything that is and was, were/is made....There must be a creator!

Who created the Creator ?

No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being.

God’s existence is underived; no one made him. He simply always was.

Well youre just contradicting yourself arent you. Didnt you say everything is made ?

the simple answer is..

in this universe the rule is, everything has to be made by something. we see it all the time. we know something cannot come from nothing because that is all we see. we have never seen something come from nothing and so we know that the law, governing this universe is you have to have something to start with to make something else.

that is the law for INSIDE THIS UNIVERSE. and so it was made to proclaim these perceived laws. the problem is, u dont know the laws that govern a world, OUTSIDE of this universe.

simply imagine that there can be universes with different rules governing its operation. God simply exists at the very baseline of OUR universe. and this is why he is our God. in his world the rules which govern how God came into being are simply beyond our logic to process. the physical laws set inside this universe is what makes the baseline appear to be nothing. but we know its something. we just having trouble making sensible interaction with it.

so we are creations with a logical ruleset governing us, that was created within a world of fantasy. the fantasy world which governs this one is shielded off, and all we experience is the physical reality as it was programmed. we do have interaction with the fantasy baseline but it is separate.

there is a logic to everything but from a lower level of understanding some things will appear illogical. there are also symbolic and metaphorical concepts that are all pervading. creating something from nothing sounds illogical. but when you think about 'empty space' as it is defined in physics and the fact that empty space contains seemingly infinite amounts of hidden/dark energy. and dark energy can be used to convert and create any atom u want in the universe. meaning, lets say a machine was finally created with science, that can build things by constructing atoms out of dark energy empty space. you realize that the words... creating something from nothing can have meaning after all. just now you finally have a label for something u always used to call.. nothing.

Google "CERN" THE LARGE HADRON COLLIDER ( LHC) and find out exactly what scientists around the globe are trying to do concerning the atoms, dark matter, particles, anti-matter etc.

[Dizzy28]

Ringleader of the Attacks supposedly dead. Would have been nice for them to get him and hopefully get any info on European ISIS cells.

Paris attacks: Abdelhamid Abaaoud 'died in Saint Denis raid'
20 minutes ago
From the section Europe

The suspected ringleader of the Paris attacks, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, has been identified as one of those killed in Tuesday's raid in the suburb of Saint Denis, the Paris prosecutor says........
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34867615

On a next note Honduras caught 5 Syrians trying to enter their country on stolen Greek passports yesterday. Our side of the world offers a perfect access for terrorists wanting to enter the US. Remember Adnan Shukrijimah the Saudi Al Qaeda operative used Trinidad a few times back and forth to the US.

[uncle sam]

Everything that is and was, were/is made....There must be a creator!

Who created the Creator ?

No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being.

God’s existence is underived; no one made him. He simply always was.

Well youre just contradicting yourself arent you. Didnt you say everything is made ?

the simple answer is..

in this universe the rule is, everything has to be made by something. we see it all the time. we know something cannot come from nothing because that is all we see. we have never seen something come from nothing and so we know that the law, governing this universe is you have to have something to start with to make something else.

that is the law for INSIDE THIS UNIVERSE. and so it was made to proclaim these perceived laws. the problem is, u dont know the laws that govern a world, OUTSIDE of this universe.

simply imagine that there can be universes with different rules governing its operation. God simply exists at the very baseline of OUR universe. and this is why he is our God. in his world the rules which govern how God came into being are simply beyond our logic to process. the physical laws set inside this universe is what makes the baseline appear to be nothing. but we know its something. we just having trouble making sensible interaction with it.

so we are creations with a logical ruleset governing us, that was created within a world of fantasy. the fantasy world which governs this one is shielded off, and all we experience is the physical reality as it was programmed. we do have interaction with the fantasy baseline but it is separate.

there is a logic to everything but from a lower level of understanding some things will appear illogical. there are also symbolic and metaphorical concepts that are all pervading. creating something from nothing sounds illogical. but when you think about 'empty space' as it is defined in physics and the fact that empty space contains seemingly infinite amounts of hidden/dark energy. and dark energy can be used to convert and create any atom u want in the universe. meaning, lets say a machine was finally created with science, that can build things by constructing atoms out of dark energy empty space. you realize that the words... creating something from nothing can have meaning after all. just now you finally have a label for something u always used to call.. nothing.

This post is cool

[GabrielBad]

Everything that is and was, were/is made....There must be a creator!

Who created the Creator ?

No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being.

God’s existence is underived; no one made him. He simply always was.

Well youre just contradicting yourself arent you. Didnt you say everything is made ?

the simple answer is..

in this universe the rule is, everything has to be made by something. we see it all the time. we know something cannot come from nothing because that is all we see. we have never seen something come from nothing and so we know that the law, governing this universe is you have to have something to start with to make something else.

that is the law for INSIDE THIS UNIVERSE. and so it was made to proclaim these perceived laws. the problem is, u dont know the laws that govern a world, OUTSIDE of this universe.

simply imagine that there can be universes with different rules governing its operation. God simply exists at the very baseline of OUR universe. and this is why he is our God. in his world the rules which govern how God came into being are simply beyond our logic to process. the physical laws set inside this universe is what makes the baseline appear to be nothing. but we know its something. we just having trouble making sensible interaction with it.

so we are creations with a logical ruleset governing us, that was created within a world of fantasy. the fantasy world which governs this one is shielded off, and all we experience is the physical reality as it was programmed. we do have interaction with the fantasy baseline but it is separate.

there is a logic to everything but from a lower level of understanding some things will appear illogical. there are also symbolic and metaphorical concepts that are all pervading. creating something from nothing sounds illogical. but when you think about 'empty space' as it is defined in physics and the fact that empty space contains seemingly infinite amounts of hidden/dark energy. and dark energy can be used to convert and create any atom u want in the universe. meaning, lets say a machine was finally created with science, that can build things by constructing atoms out of dark energy empty space. you realize that the words... creating something from nothing can have meaning after all. just now you finally have a label for something u always used to call.. nothing.

This post is cool

....?.........

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

[EmilioA]

But what was everyone born as before Islam? Were people even born before?

Adam was a Muslim according to Islamic doctrine.

[EmilioA]

the simple answer is..

in this universe the rule is, everything has to be made by something. we see it all the time. we know something cannot come from nothing because that is all we see. we have never seen something come from nothing and so we know that the law, governing this universe is you have to have something to start with to make something else.

that is the law for INSIDE THIS UNIVERSE. and so it was made to proclaim these perceived laws. the problem is, u dont know the laws that govern a world, OUTSIDE of this universe.

simply imagine that there can be universes with different rules governing its operation. God simply exists at the very baseline of OUR universe. and this is why he is our God. in his world the rules which govern how God came into being are simply beyond our logic to process. the physical laws set inside this universe is what makes the baseline appear to be nothing. but we know its something. we just having trouble making sensible interaction with it.

so we are creations with a logical ruleset governing us, that was created within a world of fantasy. the fantasy world which governs this one is shielded off, and all we experience is the physical reality as it was programmed. we do have interaction with the fantasy baseline but it is separate.

there is a logic to everything but from a lower level of understanding some things will appear illogical. there are also symbolic and metaphorical concepts that are all pervading. creating something from nothing sounds illogical. but when you think about 'empty space' as it is defined in physics and the fact that empty space contains seemingly infinite amounts of hidden/dark energy. and dark energy can be used to convert and create any atom u want in the universe. meaning, lets say a machine was finally created with science, that can build things by constructing atoms out of dark energy empty space. you realize that the words... creating something from nothing can have meaning after all. just now you finally have a label for something u always used to call.. nothing.

Excellent post. Hopefully Gabriel here will give it a read.

Google "CERN" THE LARGE HADRON COLLIDER ( LHC) and find out exactly what scientists around the globe are trying to do concerning the atoms, dark matter, particles, anti-matter etc.

OTOH it may have gone way over his head.

[BRZ]

That girl years ago should never have been allowed to go to A catholic school locally of she insisted she wear her hijab, go to your own school with your own rules or go back to where your wear is the norm.

[bluesclues]

Everything that is and was, were/is made....There must be a creator!

Who created the Creator ?

No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being.

God’s existence is underived; no one made him. He simply always was.

Well youre just contradicting yourself arent you. Didnt you say everything is made ?

the simple answer is..

in this universe the rule is, everything has to be made by something. we see it all the time. we know something cannot come from nothing because that is all we see. we have never seen something come from nothing and so we know that the law, governing this universe is you have to have something to start with to make something else.

that is the law for INSIDE THIS UNIVERSE. and so it was made to proclaim these perceived laws. the problem is, u dont know the laws that govern a world, OUTSIDE of this universe.

simply imagine that there can be universes with different rules governing its operation. God simply exists at the very baseline of OUR universe. and this is why he is our God. in his world the rules which govern how God came into being are simply beyond our logic to process. the physical laws set inside this universe is what makes the baseline appear to be nothing. but we know its something. we just having trouble making sensible interaction with it.

so we are creations with a logical ruleset governing us, that was created within a world of fantasy. the fantasy world which governs this one is shielded off, and all we experience is the physical reality as it was programmed. we do have interaction with the fantasy baseline but it is separate.

there is a logic to everything but from a lower level of understanding some things will appear illogical. there are also symbolic and metaphorical concepts that are all pervading. creating something from nothing sounds illogical. but when you think about 'empty space' as it is defined in physics and the fact that empty space contains seemingly infinite amounts of hidden/dark energy. and dark energy can be used to convert and create any atom u want in the universe. meaning, lets say a machine was finally created with science, that can build things by constructing atoms out of dark energy empty space. you realize that the words... creating something from nothing can have meaning after all. just now you finally have a label for something u always used to call.. nothing.

Google "CERN" THE LARGE HADRON COLLIDER ( LHC) and find out exactly what scientists around the globe are trying to do concerning the atoms, dark matter, particles, anti-matter etc.

i know what theyre doing. they trying to find the smaller parts of atoms in an attempt to assemble atoms like u would an ikea closet. it doesnt work that way though. they are also pitching the idea that they may discover a wormhole to keep funding. im up to date on every new progress they make.

[stev]

cold blooded killers yes...just the way the man pointed the gun down and attempted to murder the woman...

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/19/world ... d=18879616

apologies if it was posted already

[mitsutt]

Hasna Aitboulahcen, 26, and her cousin, Paris attacks ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud, died during the pre-dawn raid on Wednesday .The audio was recorded as Aitboulahcen was holed in an apartment in Saint Denis with Abaaoud and other suspected Islamic State extremists.Amid heavy gunfire, an officer is heard yelling to her: "Where is your boyfriend?"
She responds: "He's not my boyfriend!"
An explosion is heard as she detonates her explosive belt.
Witnesses described how the blast shattered windows in the street.
Her spine was found on a police car, an official said.
Aitboulahcen is believed to be the first female suicide bomber in Western Europe.

Meanwhile.
Police used around 5,000 rounds in a massive firefight during the raid. Investigations led police to believe Abaaoud was hiding in the apartment.
His body was found in the complex "riddled with bullets", the prosecutor's office said on Thursday. He was was identified using skin samples.
The 28-year-old Belgian was accused of orchestrating the Paris attacks that killed 129 people last Friday. He had boasted of mounting attacks in Europe for IS

[Trinispougla]

Sounds nice ...
How realistic do you think it is given the reality of our current realities in TnT?

Some one bandied about that there are 250 000 outstanding unserved warrants.
If that's correct it's an indication of the difficulty to monitor and find individuals that don't want to be found.

Your viable solution is based on nothing but emotion...certainly not awareness of the truth.

I'm saying having a system that is transparent relevant clear and efficient....allows the arming of citizens so inclined and so qualified.


That makes the possibility of stopping a jihadist rampage....and clearly saving lives increases exponentially.

And isn't that the goal..?

Ok, give everybody guns like the rwandan government gave every hutu a machete and see what happens. Hoss trinidad is a sweet country but it have plenty zealots in this place on several sides.and plenty mad ppl. You really want to take that risk in combating a risk that surveillance, electronic and otherwise could solve. Give it to followers of david and sat

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Hasna Aitboulahcen, 26, and her cousin, Paris attacks ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud, died during the pre-dawn raid on Wednesday .The audio was recorded as Aitboulahcen was holed in an apartment in Saint Denis with Abaaoud and other suspected Islamic State extremists.Amid heavy gunfire, an officer is heard yelling to her: "Where is your boyfriend?"
She responds: "He's not my boyfriend!"
An explosion is heard as she detonates her explosive belt.
Witnesses described how the blast shattered windows in the street.
Her spine was found on a police car, an official said.
Aitboulahcen is believed to be the first female suicide bomber in Western Europe.

Meanwhile.
Police used around 5,000 rounds in a massive firefight during the raid. Investigations led police to believe Abaaoud was hiding in the apartment.
His body was found in the complex "riddled with bullets", the prosecutor's office said on Thursday. He was was identified using skin samples.
The 28-year-old Belgian was accused of orchestrating the Paris attacks that killed 129 people last Friday. He had boasted of mounting attacks in Europe for IS

damn!!!!

[16 cycles]

hope the intelligence agencies can uproot the handlers and financiers and bring them to justice as well...

[Slartibartfast]

Response of a guy that lost his wife in the attack in the Bataclan Theatre in France.

"I will not give you the gift of hating you"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34862437

[LeRobot]

Hasna Aitboulahcen, 26, and her cousin, Paris attacks ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud, died during the pre-dawn raid on Wednesday .The audio was recorded as Aitboulahcen was holed in an apartment in Saint Denis with Abaaoud and other suspected Islamic State extremists.Amid heavy gunfire, an officer is heard yelling to her: "Where is your boyfriend?"
She responds: "He's not my boyfriend!"
An explosion is heard as she detonates her explosive belt.
Witnesses described how the blast shattered windows in the street.
Her spine was found on a police car, an official said.
Aitboulahcen is believed to be the first female suicide bomber in Western Europe.

Meanwhile.
Police used around 5,000 rounds in a massive firefight during the raid. Investigations led police to believe Abaaoud was hiding in the apartment.
His body was found in the complex "riddled with bullets", the prosecutor's office said on Thursday. He was was identified using skin samples.
The 28-year-old Belgian was accused of orchestrating the Paris attacks that killed 129 people last Friday. He had boasted of mounting attacks in Europe for IS

damn!!!!

Damn indeed, looks like somebody went all Rambo on him.

[Redman]

Sounds nice ...
How realistic do you think it is given the reality of our current realities in TnT?

Some one bandied about that there are 250 000 outstanding unserved warrants.
If that's correct it's an indication of the difficulty to monitor and find individuals that don't want to be found.

Your viable solution is based on nothing but emotion...certainly not awareness of the truth.

I'm saying having a system that is transparent relevant clear and efficient....allows the arming of citizens so inclined and so qualified.


That makes the possibility of stopping a jihadist rampage....and clearly saving lives increases exponentially.

And isn't that the goal..?

Ok, give everybody guns like the rwandan government gave every hutu a machete and see what happens. Hoss trinidad is a sweet country but it have plenty zealots in this place on several sides.and plenty mad ppl. You really want to take that risk in combating a risk that surveillance, electronic and otherwise could solve. Give it to followers of david and sat

Yep you need to google the word responsible.
Absorb the meaning reread my posts and tell me where I said,intimated,hinted or allured to giving everybody guns...



I am clear...and based on data...not a half baked notion..TnT has little or NO crime committed with a legally issued FireArm.

And I say with absolute certainty...the approval process for a FUL is SHEIT.
The process to be precepted and issued with a FUEC....even more SHEIT

SO again as opposed to the CURRENT system...a system that is transparent relevant clear and efficient..will not end up with the dotish scenario you refer to with such conviction.

[Dizzy28]

Response of a guy that lost his wife in the attack in the Bataclan Theatre in France.

"I will not give you the gift of hating you"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34862437

Very noble of him!!!

[LeRobot]

Response of a guy that lost his wife in the attack in the Bataclan Theatre in France.

"I will not give you the gift of hating you"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34862437

Very noble of him!!!

This guy is remarkably smart and composed given his circumstance.

This is exactly how you combat a fundamentalist group like ISIS who seek to create a war between Muslims and non-Muslims.

[MaxPower]

And I say with absolute certainty...the approval process for a FUL is SHEIT.
The process to be precepted and issued with a FUEC....even more SHEIT

Why is it sheit? Cuz u apply and yuh tail get blank? The process is good exactly how it is and it is designed that way for a reason.

U only blabbin responsible responsible responsible. Everybody want to be responsible and everybody wants a firearm.

People in this country cannot even be responsible when it comes to alcohol...drink responsibly my ass.

Is the speed limit controlled on the highway? Everyone doin 80? But u expect the govt to issue firearms to the supposedly "responsible" people?

When u get ur driving license are u high and reckless? No. And ur license is issued based on you being a responsible driver? Ent yuh answer the questions and pass the test? Ok and what happens after you get the license?

Man u may have a good heart and may be genuinely responsible, but the govt dont see you that way and they dont trust that u will be responsible enough. Why? Ask your fellow countrymen. If u dont want to ask, read the papers everyday and you will understand where i coming from.

Get a pellet gun.

[mitsutt]

Islamist gunmen have taken 170 hostages in Mali

http://news.yahoo.com/gunmen-attack-lux ... 38110.html

[BRZ]

I don't why countries are considering efforts to attack to merely set them back, exterminate them , rid the world of these stinking terrorists.