penal guntas

[zoom rader]

As pios say you have to have the right surname to get in the forces

[Habit7]

the thing about the indians is that they quickly identified and adapted. most of them became self sufficient and worked hard ensuring they did not have to depend on the government who was being discriminant.

It seems that some are incapable of stereotyping every Afro-Trinidadian as having poorly constructed houses clinging to a Laventille hill begging for gov't handouts. But the reality is that those who "quickly identified and adapted" and "became self sufficient and worked hard" were not just limited to Indo-Trinidadians, but it is evident in all residents of the East/West Corridor. The programs of the PNM were not directed to any particular ethnicity but to anyone who would willingly receive it. There were those with a distrust of the gov't and discouraged their children from entering the public service. But thankfully now people are setting aside the insular thinking of yourself and ZR and plucking the fruit of this country which is meant to be eaten by all.

Those in the impoverished areas of Laventille and Beetham, as well as Bangladesh and South St. Augustine, are those who are yet to pull themselves up from their boot straps and ascend the socio-economic ladder. No gov't stopping them from doing that.

[rfari]

u didnt mention the part about the port of port of spain being srsly under-staffed hence the movement of blacks to areas surrounding pos (laventille, east dry river etc). why did this happen? was it because the indos were denied employment? nope. the indos focus was on agriculture at the time. they werent interested in being stevedores etc.

and here is another claim about the lockout of indos from the public service. where are the figures for the rejected indo applications to the police service and army etc??? because its obvious that u can't make a judgement like that based on the number of indos currently in this establishments

all of those "port workers" who moved there, what happened to them today? they got rich really fast and retired to the hills reproducing and investing in crime? what ever became of those port workers.

its no secret about how the protective services operate in recruitment especially then and even now. the only difference now is that the family link > race type. after a while of rejection into a place do you expect them to keep going back every year? no they would try in some other aspect knowing the facts about the procedure.

those stevedores; wine, women and song. and well now just as u put it. they were essentially labourers with very little skill. no one's fault but themselves for their descendants being where they are now.

as zr said, whre are the figures??? how many indos actually applied to these protective services??

they normally tear up injun applications and then say injun to weak and prefer to mind cow

Ah boy

[pioneer]

tossin up that roll bread

[zoom rader]

the thing about the indians is that they quickly identified and adapted. most of them became self sufficient and worked hard ensuring they did not have to depend on the government who was being discriminant.

It seems that some are incapable of stereotyping every Afro-Trinidadian as having poorly constructed houses clinging to a Laventille hill begging for gov't handouts. But the reality is that those who "quickly identified and adapted" and "became self sufficient and worked hard" were not just limited to Indo-Trinidadians, but it is evident in all residents of the East/West Corridor. The programs of the PNM were not directed to any particular ethnicity but to anyone who would willingly receive it. There were those with a distrust of the gov't and discouraged their children from entering the public service. But thankfully now people are setting aside the insular thinking of yourself and ZR and plucking the fruit of this country which is meant to be eaten by all.

Those in the impoverished areas of Laventille and Beetham, as well as Bangladesh and South St. Augustine, are those who are yet to pull themselves up from their boot straps and ascend the socio-economic ladder. No gov't stopping them from doing that.

speedmelter told you, you will be called a racist here

[speedmelter]

the thing about the indians is that they quickly identified and adapted. most of them became self sufficient and worked hard ensuring they did not have to depend on the government who was being discriminant.

It seems that some are incapable of stereotyping every Afro-Trinidadian as having poorly constructed houses clinging to a Laventille hill begging for gov't handouts. But the reality is that those who "quickly identified and adapted" and "became self sufficient and worked hard" were not just limited to Indo-Trinidadians, but it is evident in all residents of the East/West Corridor. The programs of the PNM were not directed to any particular ethnicity but to anyone who would willingly receive it. There were those with a distrust of the gov't and discouraged their children from entering the public service. But thankfully now people are setting aside the insular thinking of yourself and ZR and plucking the fruit of this country which is meant to be eaten by all.

Those in the impoverished areas of Laventille and Beetham, as well as Bangladesh and South St. Augustine, are those who are yet to pull themselves up from their boot straps and ascend the socio-economic ladder. No gov't stopping them from doing that.

no one wants a career in an environment where he/she isnt welcomed or comfortable. back then that was the situation.

[rfari]

Wha i really doing? This is the guy that has seen a teleporting rapist in rima

[pioneer]

How gunta does live so doh?

20-30 people bunchup bunchup in one small shack

I remember for de census we found 32 people living in a 2 bedroom "house"...

What gives?

[zoom rader]

Wha i really doing? This is the guy that has seen a teleporting rapist in rima

????

[speedmelter]

the thing about the indians is that they quickly identified and adapted. most of them became self sufficient and worked hard ensuring they did not have to depend on the government who was being discriminant.

It seems that some are incapable of stereotyping every Afro-Trinidadian as having poorly constructed houses clinging to a Laventille hill begging for gov't handouts. But the reality is that those who "quickly identified and adapted" and "became self sufficient and worked hard" were not just limited to Indo-Trinidadians, but it is evident in all residents of the East/West Corridor. The programs of the PNM were not directed to any particular ethnicity but to anyone who would willingly receive it. There were those with a distrust of the gov't and discouraged their children from entering the public service. But thankfully now people are setting aside the insular thinking of yourself and ZR and plucking the fruit of this country which is meant to be eaten by all.

Those in the impoverished areas of Laventille and Beetham, as well as Bangladesh and South St. Augustine, are those who are yet to pull themselves up from their boot straps and ascend the socio-economic ladder. No gov't stopping them from doing that.

speedmelter told you, you will be called a racist here

they can call me what i want, i try to show them some truth but they are blinded to see. no wonder the cycle cant stop. i used to think education could free the minds of individuals but its quite the contrary here

[zoom rader]

^^^ You fighting a loosing battle here and the mods have not called you a racist as yet for stating facts

[rfari]

Ive requested proof, documentation of what u fellas referring to. Nothing has come forward. Im willing to accept even a devant maharaj editorial as some measure of proof. Not the rumshop stories u fellas pushing here

[DionYorker]

[/quote]
pnm was a more fair administration than this pp government. ppl were hired on qualifications and experience. not ethnicity or party affiliation. great is the pnm indeed.


I supposed that Hazel was very qualified for her post then..it was not because she was the PM's wife then?

I also guess that with all fairness Justice Sharma was unfit to sit

Radio for Hindus was denied because the line minister was fair

the fair administration of the PNM is the same fairness of it current inept leader.....

[pioneer]

When we went een the house had one setta ole matress and sponge lean up on the wall, they say at night they spread it out across the entire house and people jus fall een an sleep.

Had about 10 babies in there, nobody gainfully employed...they sell pommerac and mango for a living.

But they all had on the latest shoes and clothes, complimented with gold.

Seems like pommerac and mango is ah good hustle.

[zoom rader]

Ive requested proof, documentation of what u fellas referring to. Nothing has come forward. Im willing to accept even a devant maharaj editorial as some measure of proof. Not the rumshop stories u fellas pushing here

Do as SKY is doing and research for yourself .

[K74T]

Seein dat pios

Gold > bed to sleep on

[pioneer]

rfari always calling for documented proof yet can't prove anything himself.

[rfari]

pnm was a more fair administration than this pp government. ppl were hired on qualifications and experience. not ethnicity or party affiliation. great is the pnm indeed.


I supposed that Hazel was very qualified for her post then..it was not because she was the PM's wife then?

I also guess that with all fairness Justice Sharma was unfit to sit

Radio for Hindus was denied because the line minister was fair

the fair administration of the PNM is the same fairness of it current inept leader.....

U know hazel qualifications? Can u say that she was unfit for the job?
Radio for hindus or radio for sat to peddle racial division?

[pioneer]

I jus had a late breakfasses

[rfari]

Ive requested proof, documentation of what u fellas referring to. Nothing has come forward. Im willing to accept even a devant maharaj editorial as some measure of proof. Not the rumshop stories u fellas pushing here

Do as SKY is doing and research for yourself .

I did my research and there is no proof. So im urging u to do the same and u can reach a more informed conclusion on the discussion.

[speedmelter]

Ive requested proof, documentation of what u fellas referring to. Nothing has come forward. Im willing to accept even a devant maharaj editorial as some measure of proof. Not the rumshop stories u fellas pushing here

i dont do rumshops, most of my stories btw come from old people who were directly affected once upon a time, made themselves and children rich by using the injustice as motivation to make it in life by hard work.

if i was racist, i would comment on the people i grew up with. i would talk about them growing up stealing from small. i would talk about them growing older and sitting home smoking weed all day. working two times for the week if times really get hard. robbing pple at night, selling drugs, raping women. leading underaged girls astray and destroying their lives from young.

but i never categorically grouped africans as that type because there are more good ones compared to me knowing first hand a few of those who bring stigma on them. individualism still do it for me.

rfari the mind is amazing, follow the wrong thoughts and lead yourself down a path of self ignorance

[rfari]

rfari always calling for documented proof yet can't prove anything himself.

U still waiting in the definition of art in ur 'ban dance hall' ched?

[Habit7]

pnm was a more fair administration than this pp government. ppl were hired on qualifications and experience. not ethnicity or party affiliation. great is the pnm indeed.


I supposed that Hazel was very qualified for her post then..it was not because she was the PM's wife then?

I also guess that with all fairness Justice Sharma was unfit to sit

Radio for Hindus was denied because the line minister was fair

the fair administration of the PNM is the same fairness of it current inept leader.....

We had the PP that campaign against these examples of PNM unfairness, and not only have they not done any better, they have done worst.

Manning hiring his wife is nepotism and wrong, but what we have with the PP even today in the news is Moonilal and JW trying show who family got more contracts than the other under Cabinet oversight.

Justice Sharma was unfit because he tried to influence a judge's the judgement on Panday, of those who condemned his actions were the PNM. It is scary know that there are judges on the bench who are not impartial, esp the Chief Justice.

As I have said before in another thread w/ ZR, Manning was wrong with Jaagriti. But he tried to prevent a man having a program where one week before Jan 21 he was pleading with Tobagonians to support Ashworth Jack then for weeks after he said that Tobagonian men only good to run down white women and get AIDS.



Allyuh stop referencing your racist grandparents as sources, we need to see T&T as one country, not them and us.

[rfari]

Ive requested proof, documentation of what u fellas referring to. Nothing has come forward. Im willing to accept even a devant maharaj editorial as some measure of proof. Not the rumshop stories u fellas pushing here

i dont do rumshops, most of my stories btw come from old people who were directly affected once upon a time, made themselves and children rich by using the injustice as motivation to make it in life by hard work.

if i was racist, i would comment on the people i grew up with. i would talk about them growing up stealing from small. i would talk about them growing older and sitting home smoking weed all day. working two times for the week if times really get hard. robbing pple at night, selling drugs, raping women. leading underaged girls astray and destroying their lives from young.

but i never categorically grouped africans as that type because there are more good ones compared to me knowing first hand a few of those who bring stigma on them. individualism still do it for me.

rfari the mind is amazing, follow the wrong thoughts and lead yourself down a path of self ignorance

Whoever accused u of being racist?

[pioneer]

rfari always calling for documented proof yet can't prove anything himself.

U still waiting in the definition of art in ur 'ban dance hall' ched?

Pretty much

[DionYorker]

pnm was a more fair administration than this pp government. ppl were hired on qualifications and experience. not ethnicity or party affiliation. great is the pnm indeed.


I supposed that Hazel was very qualified for her post then..it was not because she was the PM's wife then?

I also guess that with all fairness Justice Sharma was unfit to sit

Radio for Hindus was denied because the line minister was fair

the fair administration of the PNM is the same fairness of it current inept leader.....

U know hazel qualifications? Can u say that she was unfit for the job?
Radio for hindus or radio for sat to peddle racial division?

Racial Division....

when it was that a sitting Prime Minister in any Democratic country could hire his own wife after she did not even know the plural of break fast. Come on man lets be real.

The Minister of finance pulled out all she money from Clico just in time.

The Sports minister paid 4 million for a national flag worth only a few thousand

Two conferences, Two NAPA, and a second oil boom for which we have nothing to show.

How many tournaments did Brian hold with his daddy footing the bill when poor children were being sacrificially abandoned so a megalomaniac could fill his eyeballs with the glitz of a third world African leader's persona.

Sat does not peddle racial division in fact he peddles the same standards of the Balisier House.

Isn't that true, since in Gov't they only wore the Balisier ties to mean that they served just that..themselves.....

Say what you want man black youths and crime today are the children of failed PNM strategies of a dependence and ultimate power ego.

In a small nation of mere 1.3 mil the PNM is the product of colonial division to the ultimate, there is absolutely no foresight or promise since they seek there own. That what makes the party a waste of time.

They profit on the backs of the very same "recalcitrant minority" and for the most part this is what their supporters also do. Blasted parasites.......

[rfari]

rfari always calling for documented proof yet can't prove anything himself.

U still waiting in the definition of art in ur 'ban dance hall' ched?

Pretty much

U get it?

[speedmelter]

Ive requested proof, documentation of what u fellas referring to. Nothing has come forward. Im willing to accept even a devant maharaj editorial as some measure of proof. Not the rumshop stories u fellas pushing here

i dont do rumshops, most of my stories btw come from old people who were directly affected once upon a time, made themselves and children rich by using the injustice as motivation to make it in life by hard work.

if i was racist, i would comment on the people i grew up with. i would talk about them growing up stealing from small. i would talk about them growing older and sitting home smoking weed all day. working two times for the week if times really get hard. robbing pple at night, selling drugs, raping women. leading underaged girls astray and destroying their lives from young.

but i never categorically grouped africans as that type because there are more good ones compared to me knowing first hand a few of those who bring stigma on them. individualism still do it for me.

rfari the mind is amazing, follow the wrong thoughts and lead yourself down a path of self ignorance

Whoever accused u of being racist?

habit saw me as seeing it that way.

but my views remain that we are already a nation gone down the tubes. too many unjust and hypocrites lay in authority. govt come govt go it wont change.

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

^^Very well said actually!

[DionYorker]

Honestly if we all look at it no politician ever suffers.

They are all well off from both sides they party together, lime together, cry together and in my opinion pretend to fight each other.

I have never seen a poor politician from any party PP, PNM , UNC or COP.

They play people for fools, the majority rules and they do too none better.

All this rum shop talk making me feel to turn this Thursday into a early Friday drinkin ....