anan@gmail.com

[RedTiger]

Rowley sent to Privileges Committee by PM

[rfari]

This simple unno.
Show pnm u have nothing to hide.
Support whateva investigation they calling for into this.

Now doh get me wrong. Dem emails is rell folly. My opinion. Ah saying it in big before one of u spoonfeds wanna say that i think the email real.

But what are the possibilities of an independent investigation? Access to devices, possibly even bank accounts to try and piece together the puzzle (fake or not). Legal invasion of privacy perhaps?

Doh beatup eh fellas. I just looking at the permutations of this nastyman move rowley pull here

[mamoo_pagal]

How is the police going to investigate this fiasco ?
Does rowley document include proper email technical info such as email headers and other smtp details ?

^^this. The most annoying part of this is the dotish Trinis who still refer to it as an email. Anyone can create that document in any word processing software heck I can do it on my phone!!!! It is not an email........it is a bloody document.

[toyota2nr]

This simple unno.
Show pnm u have nothing to hide.
Support whateva investigation they calling for into this.

Now doh get me wrong. Dem emails is rell folly. My opinion. Ah saying it in big before one of u spoonfeds wanna say that i think the email real.

But what are the possibilities of an independent investigation? Access to devices, possibly even bank accounts to try and piece together the puzzle (fake or not). Legal invasion of privacy perhaps?

Doh beatup eh fellas. I just looking at the permutations of this nastyman move rowley pull here

Shouldn't the onus be on the PNM to prove the authenticity of the 'document' since they introduced it?

[toyota2nr]

Spoonfeds.....lol one last shot eh?

[rfari]

This simple unno.
Show pnm u have nothing to hide.
Support whateva investigation they calling for into this.

Now doh get me wrong. Dem emails is rell folly. My opinion. Ah saying it in big before one of u spoonfeds wanna say that i think the email real.

But what are the possibilities of an independent investigation? Access to devices, possibly even bank accounts to try and piece together the puzzle (fake or not). Legal invasion of privacy perhaps?

Doh beatup eh fellas. I just looking at the permutations of this nastyman move rowley pull here

Shouldn't the onus be on the PNM to prove the authenticity of the 'document' since they introduced it?

No. The onus is on the investigators to disprove what he brought to the parliament. If he is wrong either by having a part to play in manufacturing these 'emails' or as little as taking the wrong approach with the revealing of this info, he should pay the political price.

And remember according to rowley, he is merely the messenger of the documents.

[RedTiger]

Breaking Barriers IBN Channel 8 Poll at 9 pm tonight :

E-mail Authentic : 90%

E-mail Not Authentic : 10%

[bluefete]

[X2]

It did it's job... now no one is actually concerned with Section 34 anymore... now all the sheep are bleating about emails...

Notice how much validity the PP is putting into this ? They WANT people to talk... All partners in crime... and so it will continue... suffer little children.

[Country_Bookie]

Here's an article from when Gmail was launched. Gmail has never allowed user names less than 6 characters:

Hal Danziger, a Web development programmer from Holbrook, New York, paid $76 for his Gmail account. It's the first thing he's ever bought on EBay.

"I did a search on Google News to find out when Gmail would launch publicly, and I saw a mention of the EBay auctions. I wanted to get a good username before the service launched, so I placed a bid," he says. Unfortunately for Danziger, his first choice was unavailable: Gmail usernames must be at least six characters long.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/116293/article.html

In 6 months, no-one from the PNM ever thought about verifying the email address. They couldn't just send one email to anan@gmail.com saying HYMC to see if it would be delivered?

[rfari]

Ogooooooaaaarrrr....

Miss Patsy’s chest pains halt debate
...Kamla, MPs rush to activist’s aid in Parliament
By Anna Ramdass anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: May 22, 2013 at 10:54 PM ECT

(Story Updated: May 22, 2013 at 11:56 PM ECT )
In the heat of the parliamentary debate of the no-confidence motion yesterday, a woman experienced chest pains, forcing the debate to halt as Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar went to her side.

Debate was concluded on the Opposition’s motion of no confidence in the Prime Minister and the Government.

At 5.58 p.m., Persad-Bissessar was on her feet in full swing, accusing Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley of being the “great deceiver” as she defended herself and her Government against an alleged Section 34 e-mail conspiracy.

At that time, a woman in the public gallery—United National Congress (UNC) activist Patsy Lezama, known as “Miss Patsy”—stated coughing and appeared to have problems breathing.

The Parliament Chamber at Tower D of the International Waterfront Centre is such that the public gallery faces the Government benches.

Upon seeing Lezama in some difficulty, Persad-Bissessar paused and asked someone to attend to her. She then called on Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh to assist.

Gopeesingh rushed to her side, and after a few seconds, House Speaker Wade Mark moved that the House be suspended for 15 minutes.

A number of Government ministers and MPs went to Lezama’s side to assist, including Persad-Bissessar.

Lezama was unable to walk out of the Chamber; she sat on a chair holding her chest as the Prime Minister spoke softly to her.

Minister of Community Development Winston “Gypsy” Peters was overheard questioning why there was not a medical team or ambulance on site to deal with emergencies.

By 6.13 p.m., fire officers arrived with a stretcher and carried Lezama out to an ambulance, and she was rushed to the Port of Spain General Hospital.

Minutes before this incident as the Prime Minister got on her feet to speak, all members of the Opposition walked out of the Chamber as Government members booed and shouted, “Don’t come back!”

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Mis ... 95411.html

[~Vēġó~]

this place never boring yes....hope the lady feels better.

[rfari]

Here's an article from when Gmail was launched. Gmail has never allowed user names less than 6 characters:

Hal Danziger, a Web development programmer from Holbrook, New York, paid $76 for his Gmail account. It's the first thing he's ever bought on EBay.

"I did a search on Google News to find out when Gmail would launch publicly, and I saw a mention of the EBay auctions. I wanted to get a good username before the service launched, so I placed a bid," he says. Unfortunately for Danziger, his first choice was unavailable: Gmail usernames must be at least six characters long.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/116293/article.html

In 6 months, no-one from the PNM ever thought about verifying the email address. They couldn't just send one email to anan@gmail.com saying HYMC to see if it would be delivered?

Correct.
These impossibilities are obvious. I dunno what rowley spoke about last evening wrt gmail addys shorter than 6 characters. He really going out on a limb here.
But is that grounds enough to dismiss the whole package altogether? Put feelings and emotions aside.
Is there the possibility that there were errors transcribing the emails?
As i said before, the best way to resolve this without lingering ambiguity is to do an impartial investigation and make the findings public.
Winner take all, loser take the fall

[*$kїđž!™]

Breaking Barriers IBN Channel 8 Poll at 9 pm tonight :

E-mail Authentic : 90%

E-mail Not Authentic : 10%

Who watches and pays attention to this sheit...

Breaking barriers waste ah fcuking time.....anyways......

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/E-m ... 96391.html

E-mail Crash
Rowley walks out on own motion; sent to Privileges Committee

By Ria Taitt: Political Editor
Story Created: May 22, 2013 at 11:02 PM ECT
Story Updated: May 22, 2013 at 11:56 PM ECT
PM: Desperate act by Rowley

The Prime Minister made mas as she wound up the debate on the no-confidence motion yesterday, with the expected outcome of a resounding defeat of Opposition Leader Dr Keith Row­ley’s motion of no confidence in her Government. The vote was 26 against, none in favour.

Kamla Persad-Bissessar, who was one of the persons accused of wrong-doing in the e-mails, looked fearless and commanding as she launched her counter-attack. She labelled Rowley the “great deceiver” and the e-mails “the great hoax”, to table-thumping endorsement from her troops.

The Prime Minister had a clear stage on which to parade as the Opposition walked out of the Chamber



as soon as she rose to speak. They did not even return to vote on their own motion. They were protesting her decision to wind up the debate and not allow the mover, Rowley, to do the honours. But according to the Standing Orders, the Prime Minister was perfectly entitled to enter the debate at the end if she so chose. As People’s National Movement (PNM) MPs marched out, Government members booed, thundering: “Don’t come back.”

With the PNM absent, St Joseph MP Herbert Volney, who sat like the lone ranger opposite the packed Government bench, voted with the Government, lustily joining the chorus of nays.

He also rapped his desk approvingly as the Prime Minister concluded her presentation.

At the end of it all, Rowley was referred to the Privileges Committee. The Prime Minister, who moved the motion of privilege, said Rowley abused the privilege of Parliament to mislead the House, that he was reckless and brought the House into ridicule and disrepute.

House Speaker Wade Mark did not defer his ruling as he usually does when such matters are brought for his consideration. “I am of the view that a prima facie case of contempt has been made out,” he stated.

Adding to the drama was the fainting of a member of the gallery which a forced a 15-minute suspension.

During her contribution, the Prime Minister resisted calls for what Rowley and Volney called an “independent” investigation and maintained her decision to have the investigation spearheaded by the local police. She said she found it hard to believe that Rowley, who had been a parliamentarian for decades and a minister of Government, did not know that the only agency to investigate these alleged crimes was the police.

The Prime Minister, who said she was prepared to surrender her BlackBerry for forensic examination, asked the absent Rowley: “Why did not you not send it (the e-mails) to the President, the Integrity Commission and the police?”

She said the Integrity Commission would be going outside of its remit if it were to probe the criminal aspects of the e-mail allegations —conspiracy to commit murder, the illegal wiretapping and perversion of justice. She went through the Integrity of Public Life Act to support her case.

She said Rowley shifted the ground from Monday when he started with accusations that it was a case of “murder he wrote”, but he was soon reduced to “investigate it, nah” by yesterday.
She said Rowley tried to create fear, panic and anxiety in the country. “He tried to get the citizenry out there in panic (saying to them), ‘Listen, your Prime Minister, your AG and senior officials, look at them people, my God! Where they come from, conspiring to murder people, to tap DPP (Director of Public Prosecutions), remove him from office.’ That is why he did nothing with those e-mails, except to come here. I can’t believe he had those e-mails for six months.... His credibility is totally shut and gone,” she said.

The Prime Minister said the population understood that this was a conspiracy to destabilise the country. “A desperate act on the part of someone who does not even have the support of his own members,” she said.

The Opposition cards, led by a joker, had collapsed at one point when there was no one on that bench who was prepared to speak, she claimed.

“We know why because there was no way they could get up to defend the indefensible,” she quipped. She said it was hilarious the motion accused Government of undermining the parliamentary opposition when they were doing such a good job of it on their own.

The Prime Minister slammed Rowley for sitting on the information for six months, which he had since December 12, 2012. Did he inform the DPP of the illegal wiretap so that he could have his place swept? Did he inform reporter Denyse Renne of the plot to kill her or even make a report to the police? the Prime Minister asked. Did he inform the Chief Justice and other member of the JLSC (Judicial and Legal Service Commission) of the perversion of justice?

“All the member could say is he went to the President. The President has no investigating powers,” she said. Yet, she said, Rowley said nothing happened when he sent it to the President. “Which is the truth?” she asked.

She said Rowley should have sought techno­logical advice, noting even the children (who she claimed Rowley had labelled dunces) who benefited from the Government’s “ground-breaking policy” of providing laptops must be “wondering who is the real duncy-head”.

Despite Rowley’s assertion to the contrary, the Prime Minister maintained her position that it was impossible to have a gmail account with four characters (such as anan@gmail.com).

Persad-Bissessar said what started out as a no-confidence motion had boiled down like bhajee. Noting the debate took place on the eve of the visit of US Vice-President Joe Biden, she apologised to US Charge D’Affaires Thomas Smitham for Rowley bringing his name “into disrepute” in the House.
The Prime Minister said if someone hacked into an e-mail, that was a crime, and if one fabricated an e-mail, it was also a crime.

“So I suspect the investigation that he (Rowley) is calling for is an investigation into himself. I trust that the Opposition Leader would co-operate with the investigations,” the Prime Minister stated. She said the Government would make available the findings of the investigation.

The House was adjourned to a date to be fixed.

[megadoc1]

I wonder if its possible that, even if the addresses and stuff listed are messed up, this could have been deliberately done on purpose to masked or to protect the whistle blower but at the same time allow for an investigation to discover and expose what was really written in the real emails between the pm,the AG and others during the time of section 34 .that's a serious gamble rowley took dey, lets see whats the results of this crap

[16 cycles]

Section 34 bring down opp and govt......lol

[sMASH]

nah, cause they would only investigate what is in question at the time, and that are those specific emails. they would not try to validate the contents of the emails, but validate the authenticity.

before u open up ur s4 and examine the processor and main board to figure out if it is a real s4, first you would watch the box and ensure that it is spelt 'samsung' and not 'sammsong'



the contents of the emails are damning, but the evidence of the damning are only the emails, and if your only evidence is frivolous, then u have nutting. as some one previously said, 'bettah dan dat, growley'




mind u, this is by no way an exoneration of the unc in the section 34. but, there needs to be better evidence.

i still believe that this is a diversion for sumting else... it have a conspiracy, i just don't kno which one.

[TriniAutoMart]

Volney sitting on d opposition side?

[16 cycles]

“This Opposition will settle for nothing less than an independent investigation of people (including international experts),” Rowley said. He said what the country could not countenance was “people who are supposed to be the targets of the allegation taking the position that they are innocent. That’s unacceptable.” Science and Technology Minister Dr Rupert Griffith asked Rowley at that point when he would be resigning.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-05-23/pnm-walks-out

[Dizzy28]

Volney sitting on d opposition side?

The small size of the Parliament Chamber at the Waterfront means a few Govn't MPs sit on the opposition side of the floor.

[zoom rader]

Breaking Barriers IBN Channel 8 Poll at 9 pm tonight :

E-mail Authentic : 90%

E-mail Not Authentic : 10%

90% of those in that poll dont even have an email account

[javishm]

Breaking Barriers IBN Channel 8 Poll at 9 pm tonight :

E-mail Authentic : 90%

E-mail Not Authentic : 10%

ppl does still watch that sheit

[zoom rader]

^^^ Mostly ignorant ppl lead by a clown

[20inchstrong]

^^ Dont be surprised if d man didnt even have a poll, he probrably just put up on d screen.

D opposition MP's make theyselves bigger fools by walking out though.... they should beat one another for that!

[DFC]

i lol'd soo hard.


Rowley should go NESC and do a computer course.

[Crackpot]

Lets get back to the facts please.

Former President Maxwell Richards confirmed that Dr. Keith Rowley did indeed pass said e-mail documents on to him late last year. Therefore if anyone wants to say that he sat on the information their statement would be uninformed and untrue.

More-so Mr Richards has said that he in turn passed these documents on to the Integrity Commission who have stated that they will make a statement on this shortly. So the onus is now on the Integrity Commission as to explain if they did their own investigations and what conclusions if any have been found within the past six months and WHY are we now learning of this

I think that Dr. Rowley may have just got tired of waiting and being a politician decided to pr-empt the P.P's anniversary celebrations and local govt elections with this mark now. I mean everybody agrees that the Police has a good enough track record of slow moving investigations and this can cause anyone to get trigger happy.

The leader of the Opposition's job is not to be a forensic computer expert, neither is the leader of the Government's job is to be a computer analyst and state whether yay or nay. He like many others does not trust the Police and so passed it on to the President to do the necessary. Carry on

[rfari]

Couldn't put it better mehself. Well said

[toyota2nr]

Where or when did the former president state that he received the 'emails' ?

[toyolink]

Lets get back to the facts please.

Former President Maxwell Richards confirmed that Dr. Keith Rowley did indeed pass said e-mail documents on to him late last year. Therefore if anyone wants to say that he sat on the information their statement would be uninformed and untrue.

More-so Mr Richards has said that he in turn passed these documents on to the Integrity Commission who have stated that they will make a statement on this shortly. So the onus is now on the Integrity Commission as to explain if they did their own investigations and what conclusions if any have been found within the past six months and WHY are we now learning of this

I think that Dr. Rowley may have just got tired of waiting and being a politician decided to pr-empt the P.P's anniversary celebrations and local govt elections with this mark now. I mean everybody agrees that the Police has a good enough track record of slow moving investigations and this can cause anyone to get trigger happy.

The leader of the Opposition's job is not to be a forensic computer expert, neither is the leader of the Government's job is to be a computer analyst and state whether yay or nay. He like many others does not trust the Police and so passed it on to the President to do the necessary. Carry on

I simply can't recall any pronouncements nor media articles to support this reality and would appreciate your details on same.

[InsanityReigns]

Couldn't put it better mehself. Well said

Well said lies, just like the emails in question.