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5onDfloor wrote:i jus spoke to cro cro his rendition for 2011 is titled GLAMOUR GIRL
chorus
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
She say she going to talk Hillary
but end up collecting a glamour award on TV.
she say the treasure have no money
but give away 17000 laptops for free.
chorus
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
5onDfloor wrote:i jus spoke to cro cro his rendition for 2011 is titled GLAMOUR GIRL
chorus
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
She say she going to talk Hillary
but end up collecting a glamour award on TV.
she say the treasure have no money
but give away 17000 laptops for free.
chorus
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
KAMLA LIE LIE LIE!!!
and she like to FLY FLY FLY!!!
AllTrac wrote:5onDfloor wrote: The fact still remains it has been establish since 1995 under the UNC and its an agency that we need in Trinidad.
Fact??
This was formed in 1991 after the PNM won the election from the NAR, Manning publicly announced that he has no confidence in the special branch since the country was held at a coup. The director he appointed at that time was Laurence something cant remember his last name right now.5onDfloor wrote: This PP government has just compromise our national security for political mileage.
If the SIA was in operation to protect the democracy of the people i would agree that it was justified, but what national security risk does rachel price pose? what national security risk does Ashford jack pose? what national security risk does Dale Enoch pose? what national security risk does President George richards pose? where he could wine down low in legends?? what national security risk does Dr. Kieth Rowley pose? Why also were they still reporting to Manning even tho he was no longer the Prime Minister?
If they claimed that it was done for national security where are the names like Mark grear, Fresh, screwface, Robo, Abu bakar etc, not seeing those names in the monitored list.
zoom rader wrote:it goes like this
Manning spy spy spy
and gave hart billions billions billions
Manning spy spy spy
crash dummy wrote:This "revelation" by the PM has put us back into the stone age wrt gathering intel and protecting our national security.. All for what mileage?
MAHA SABHA TO SUE STATE AND MANNING PERSONALLY FOR SPYING
The Central Executive of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha Inc. of Trinidad & Tobago was shocked and amazed at the revelation made by the Hon. Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar that the Peoples National Movement led Government spied on two officers of the SDMS – Mr. Satnaryan Maharaj, Secretary General and Mr. Devant Maharaj Assistant Secretary.
In addition to the Central Executive of the Maha Sabha other arms of the Maha Sabha such as the Pundits Parishad, Youth Arm, Women’s Arm, etc have also communicated their concerns about the implications of these two officers of the religious organization being spied upon.
During the PNM Government the Maha Sabha, Satnarayan Maharaj and Devant Maharaj had various legal actions before the courts against the State. The attorney for the Maha Sabha, Satnarayan Maharaj, and Devant Maharaj, now the Attorney General of T&T Mr. Anand Ramlogan, was also being spied upon. The implication for this regarding the independence of the judiciary has caused the Maha Sabha and its officers to reflect if its legal actions against the State were in any form compromised.
Upon advice of our attorneys, Satnaryan Maharaj, and Devant Maharaj will be initiating legal action against the State, former Prime Minister Patrick Manning and former Minister of National Security Martin Joseph personally. Letters have been written to the Director of Public Prosecutions.
Details of this action will be revealed at a PRESS CONFERNCE on Tuesday 16th November 2010 at 11:00am at the Headquarters of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha Inc., Eastern Main Road, St. Augustine.
The Media is invited to attend and cover this event.
Satnaryan Maharaj
Secretary General
pioneer wrote:So anywayyyyeeee...what's goin on with allegations of religious discrimination, the IMF and the PSA issue?
eliteauto wrote:MAHA SABHA TO SUE STATE AND MANNING PERSONALLY FOR SPYING
The Central Executive of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha Inc. of Trinidad & Tobago was shocked and amazed at the revelation made by the Hon. Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar that the Peoples National Movement led Government spied on two officers of the SDMS – Mr. Satnaryan Maharaj, Secretary General and Mr. Devant Maharaj Assistant Secretary.
In addition to the Central Executive of the Maha Sabha other arms of the Maha Sabha such as the Pundits Parishad, Youth Arm, Women’s Arm, etc have also communicated their concerns about the implications of these two officers of the religious organization being spied upon.
During the PNM Government the Maha Sabha, Satnarayan Maharaj and Devant Maharaj had various legal actions before the courts against the State. The attorney for the Maha Sabha, Satnarayan Maharaj, and Devant Maharaj, now the Attorney General of T&T Mr. Anand Ramlogan, was also being spied upon. The implication for this regarding the independence of the judiciary has caused the Maha Sabha and its officers to reflect if its legal actions against the State were in any form compromised.
Upon advice of our attorneys, Satnaryan Maharaj, and Devant Maharaj will be initiating legal action against the State, former Prime Minister Patrick Manning and former Minister of National Security Martin Joseph personally. Letters have been written to the Director of Public Prosecutions.
Details of this action will be revealed at a PRESS CONFERNCE on Tuesday 16th November 2010 at 11:00am at the Headquarters of the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha Inc., Eastern Main Road, St. Augustine.
The Media is invited to attend and cover this event.
Satnaryan Maharaj
Secretary General
very nice, now the courts will determine legality and redress, as I said before the only claim I see now is a constitutional one, let's see what evidence the Maha Sabha presents since "Kamla say so" is not enough
UML wrote:pioneer wrote:UML wrote:dem eh even spy on the syrians self!!!!![]()
So who's Gary Aboud?k my bad....i didnt want to say the exact name....but Sabga's
And Imbert made the statement AFTER kamala called names so YES obviously he knew they were "spying" on him. oh really....so if she called names today in Parliament...how did i see this in the papers 6am this morning?!!![]()
Apparently ya'll playing right into the smoke screen drop by the PM to detract from the serious burning issues and outright discrimination by her ministers
These "people" on the list are called "persons of interest"...there are MUCH more private individuals the state keep tracks of especially those holding high office in the government (non political sheep) and even private companies. Many CEO's, Directors, Comptrollers and Permanent Secretaries are kept under constant "watch" by the state...especially by Special Branch and other arms of National Security. They don't do it to "spy" on anyone for malicious purposes, they actually do it to protect that individual and the state.
Ya'll seriously need to a get a clue bout how things are done in the modern world and stop this canefield politics dotishness. Kamala knows 95% of her support base are illiterate and guess which portion allyuh fall into.
well dey doing a good job with the runaway crime, kidnapping, drugs, guns, etc.
Kamla to determine fate of 'informants'
By Aabida Allaham
Story Created: Nov 15, 2010 at 10:48 PM ECT
Story Updated: Nov 15, 2010 at 10:48 PM ECT
NATIONAL Security Minister, Brigadier John Sandy says he knew about the Strategic Intelligence Agency (SIA) but not who they were spying on.
"I knew the facility existed, but to tell you who they were intercepting, I have no idea," he said.
Sandy made the comments while speaking to members of the media at the launch of the "Concerts of Hope" initiative at Temple Place in Port of Spain yesterday.
He added that he met with former SIA and Security Services Agency (SSA)—another intelligence agency under the Ministry of National Security—director Nigel Clement four times prior to his being fired last week to discuss "normal administrative reports and other things I can't tell you".
Last week, under the SSA Act of 1995, President George Maxwell Richards signed an order revoking Clement's appointment at the agency after Special Branch and Anti-Corruption Investigation Bureau officers discovered that the old Vistarama Cinema building on St Vincent Street, Port of Spain—which housed one of the SIA offices—had $5.9 million in a fireproof safe and a stash of unregistered firearms during a raid on October 23.
The SIA, which had a staff of 200 persons and operated out of various safe houses, ran private companies as fronts for its channelling of millions of dollars of cash to people described as "informants".
Following the discovery, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar said she was disturbed when she found out that the phones, e-mails and text messages of citizens in the country were being illegally monitored by the SIA and questioned what they were doing with the information.
Asked yesterday how he felt about his phone being wiretapped, Sandy said "I will not want to tell you that on camera".
Asked what was going to happen to the "informants" employed by SIA, Sandy could only respond "This is something that I would prefer you ask the Chairman of the National Security Council (Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar)".
5onDfloor wrote:ah boyyyyyy...........................so Sandy knew and Kamla did not?
Sandy and Clement met FOUR TIMES to discuss admin reports and OTHER STUFF THAT HE CANT DIVULGED?
so who Sandy reporting too?
Isn't the PM the head of the national security council?
Isn't the PM also the head of Caricom Security council?
is really WTN!!!!!!!!!
UML wrote:i see the removal of Sandy very soon.....this is the second time he contradicted the PM....cant remember what it was for before....i think a comment on strike action or something like that.
UML wrote:i see the removal of Sandy very soon.....this is the second time he contradicted the PM....cant remember what it was for before....i think a comment on strike action or something like that.
RASC wrote:UML wrote:i see the removal of Sandy very soon.....this is the second time he contradicted the PM....cant remember what it was for before....i think a comment on strike action or something like that.
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First time was on the issue of the OPV's.
Sandy was in favor of keeping them-in contradiction to the PM's want.
Good thing I living in foreign yes, cause you clearly on top of things home in Trini.
5onDfloor wrote:UML wrote:i see the removal of Sandy very soon.....this is the second time he contradicted the PM....cant remember what it was for before....i think a comment on strike action or something like that.
^^ On what MERIT do u forsee his removal soon?