COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[Redman]

We spray down everything with a 50 50 solution of methylated spirits and water ....with one of those pressurized spray bottles.
Spray all food groceries with the same.

The spray bottle seems much faster and gets better coverage for less money.

[pugboy]

for sure, dunno why ppl wasting money on lysol

We spray down everything with a 50 50 solution of methylated spirits and water ....with one of those pressurized spray bottles.
Spray all food groceries with the same.

The spray bottle seems much faster and gets better coverage for less money.

[pugboy]

that is indian source tho, they kinda at war

only in trini indian and chinee does make a good mix

amm...

[adnj]

for sure, dunno why ppl wasting money on lysol

We spray down everything with a 50 50 solution of methylated spirits and water ....with one of those pressurized spray bottles.
Spray all food groceries with the same.

The spray bottle seems much faster and gets better coverage for less money.

"Alcohol-based disinfecting solutions should be at least 70% alcohol and can be used to clean things like table surfaces, light switches, and mobile phones."

https://www.insider.com/does-alcohol-kill-germs

[Redman]

Yep typo....thx
The 50 is the bleach we wipe down inside with....

[elec2020]

Govt wants cases back to 15-20 per day

What is a realistic time for a lockdown /or state of emer. to relax?

with this variant? you would have to lockdown till october/november if so. And idk if that is feasible.

Reported cases are projected to fall below 20 per day (96.5% reduction) by September 1st.

it possible but basically thats 5 months no pay (depending if this level of restriction is maintained) as well as very little economic activity. This is going to decimate the economy. You basically having two back to back years of significant economic contraction. We in for alot of pain.

[adnj]

Yep typo....thx
The 50 is the bleach we wipe down inside with....

Household bleach is normally about 5% sodium hypochlorite. You can probably lower your bleach mixture concentration to 1 tablespoon per quart (1:64) for a 0.07% mix.

"Regular household cleaning and disinfection products will effectively eliminate the virus from household surfaces.  For cleaning and disinfecting households with suspected or confirmed COVID19, surface virucidal disinfectants, such as 0.05% sodium hypochlorite (NaClO) and products based on ethanol (at least 70%), should be used."

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detai ... -nutrition

[pugboy]

yeah, a safe bleach solution does not leave any residue or long lasting bleach smell
contrary to want many ppl believe

Yep typo....thx
The 50 is the bleach we wipe down inside with....

Household bleach is normally about 5% sodium hypochlorite. You can probably lower your bleach mixture concentration to 1 tablespoon per quart (1:64) for a 0.07% mix.

"Regular household cleaning and disinfection products will effectively eliminate the virus from household surfaces.  For cleaning and disinfecting households with suspected or confirmed COVID19, surface virucidal disinfectants, such as 0.05% sodium hypochlorite (NaClO) and products based on ethanol (at least 70%), should be used."

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detai ... -nutrition

[adnj]

Govt wants cases back to 15-20 per day

What is a realistic time for a lockdown /or state of emer. to relax?

with this variant? you would have to lockdown till october/november if so. And idk if that is feasible.

Reported cases are projected to fall below 20 per day (96.5% reduction) by September 1st.

it possible but basically thats 5 months no pay (depending if this level of restriction is maintained) as well as very little economic activity. This is going to decimate the economy. You basically having two back to back years of significant economic contraction. We in for alot of pain.

Economic pain, social pain, psychological pain, educational pain, and unnecessary loss of life. That all should have been expected the moment that the WHO declared the Covid-19 outbreak a pandemic.

No nation is required to lockdown but historically a lockdown is the most effective means available to mitigate a pandemic. Pick your poison.

[elec2020]

^ fair enough. Maybe by 2025 we will catch back ourselves.

[aaron17]

Govt wants cases back to 15-20 per day

What is a realistic time for a lockdown /or state of emer. to relax?

with this variant? you would have to lockdown till october/november if so. And idk if that is feasible.

Reported cases are projected to fall below 20 per day (96.5% reduction) by September 1st.

it possible but basically thats 5 months no pay (depending if this level of restriction is maintained) as well as very little economic activity. This is going to decimate the economy. You basically having two back to back years of significant economic contraction. We in for alot of pain.

Economic pain, social pain, psychological pain, educational pain, and unnecessary loss of life. That all should have been expected the moment that the WHO declared the Covid-19 outbreak a pandemic.

No nation is required to lockdown but historically a lockdown is the most effective means available to mitigate a pandemic. Pick your poison.

So this means no easing up on certain restrictions like food etc til then?

[Habit7]

For the sanitisation crowd, it is kinda just theatre

[redmanjp]

that is indian source tho, they kinda at war

only in trini indian and chinee does make a good mix

amm...

15% positivity rate? we way worse then with 40+%

[redmanjp]

he tried to warn us

https://guardian.co.tt/news/cmo--no-one-heeded-warning-about-drastic-covid-rise-6.2.1329896.6a40ed8292

[aaron17]

'In fact, according to Attorney General Faris Al Rawi, who referenced Epidemiologist, Dr Avery Hinds, our rolling case average needs to stand at 15 cases per day for at least two weeks in order to see any changes.'

For the above to happen , we need until September or October/Nov? Or am I reading it wrong?


Source: https://tt.loopnews.com/content/ag-tt-n ... ay-soe-end

[aaron17]

^^If its like that ..we still in May right now.. lol
Its gonna be a long long ride

[Dohplaydat]

The reality is we will be in a state of lockdown for the rest of the year. Now fast food/curbside might reopen in 6-8 weeks at the earliest, but do not expect gyms, dining in, cinemas etc to reopen till September/October at the earliest.

[aaron17]

The reality is we will be in a state of lockdown for the rest of the year. Now fast food/curbside might reopen in 6-8 weeks at the earliest, but do not expect gyms, dining in, cinemas etc to reopen till September/October at the earliest.

Noted

[pugboy]

even if numbers go down
and they relax the rules to pre current lockdown

trinis will get carried away again and it will be same khaki pants cycle all over again
it’s in our dna to lime and overdo it

if disciplined countries like japan and taiwan could experience that virus revival then we just as well

[aaron17]

even if numbers go down
and they relax the rules to pre current lockdown

trinis will get carried away again and it will be same khaki pants cycle all over again
it’s in our dna to lime and overdo it

if disciplined countries like japan and taiwan could experience that virus revival then we just as well

It is understood.

[BUG]

even if numbers go down
and they relax the rules to pre current lockdown

trinis will get carried away again and it will be same khaki pants cycle all over again
it’s in our dna to lime and overdo it

if disciplined countries like japan and taiwan could experience that virus revival then we just as well

We're not even in a lockdown yet. Neigbours all around having limes with friends coming over to enjoy some drinks and shoot the sh*t, eased by removing their masks, all completely legal and by the book. These restrictions are a tragic comedy.

[MaxPower]

even if numbers go down
and they relax the rules to pre current lockdown

trinis will get carried away again and it will be same khaki pants cycle all over again
it’s in our dna to lime and overdo it

if disciplined countries like japan and taiwan could experience that virus revival then we just as well

X100000000

Trinis will be learning nothing from this pandemic.

If the virus is still around, all it takes is ONE day for beaches, bars and KFC to open and i dont have to tell allyuh what’s gonna happen.

Effective vaccines is the only solution as depending on Trinis is hopeless.

[pugboy]

bro
all it takes is somebody at the top to go on tv arm wrestling

[adnj]

even if numbers go down
and they relax the rules to pre current lockdown

trinis will get carried away again and it will be same khaki pants cycle all over again
it’s in our dna to lime and overdo it

if disciplined countries like japan and taiwan could experience that virus revival then we just as well

We're not even in a lockdown yet. Neigbours all around having limes with friends coming over to enjoy some drinks and shoot the sh*t, eased by removing their masks, all completely legal and by the book. These restrictions are a tragic comedy.

Historically, this becomes the high-risk group. The virus spreads, and they are disproportionately affected. It's like people who smoke and people who die from lung cancer.

[BUG]

even if numbers go down
and they relax the rules to pre current lockdown

trinis will get carried away again and it will be same khaki pants cycle all over again
it’s in our dna to lime and overdo it

if disciplined countries like japan and taiwan could experience that virus revival then we just as well

We're not even in a lockdown yet. Neigbours all around having limes with friends coming over to enjoy some drinks and shoot the sh*t, eased by removing their masks, all completely legal and by the book. These restrictions are a tragic comedy.

Historically, this becomes the high-risk group. The virus spreads, and they are disproportionately affected. It's like people who smoke and people who die from lung cancer.

Right now a social person can theoretically (at a minimum) see 16 people over a weekend, indoors, no mask, alcohol to lower inhibitions, minimal social distancing, completely legally, for hours and hours on end.

Saturday lunch: 4 friends over
Saturday dinner: 4 friends over
Sunday lunch: 4 friends over
Sunday dinner: 4 friends over

All it takes is one of those 16 other people to be asymptomatic and they've now passed on whatever strain they have to x number of people (I can't remember what the statistics are for transmission off the top of my head, someone help me out).

Can someone explain the logic here? Maybe I'm missing something and I'd be glad to be educated on the matter and change my opinion.

[Habit7]

The only way out is mass vaccination. It is starting tomorrow. Do your part and get vaccinated.

[VexXx Dogg]

The only way out is mass vaccination. It is starting tomorrow. Do your part and get vaccinated.

Yup. If there are concerns, it's best discussed with your GP rather than "experts" on the internet.

[adnj]

even if numbers go down
and they relax the rules to pre current lockdown

trinis will get carried away again and it will be same khaki pants cycle all over again
it’s in our dna to lime and overdo it

if disciplined countries like japan and taiwan could experience that virus revival then we just as well

We're not even in a lockdown yet. Neigbours all around having limes with friends coming over to enjoy some drinks and shoot the sh*t, eased by removing their masks, all completely legal and by the book. These restrictions are a tragic comedy.

Historically, this becomes the high-risk group. The virus spreads, and they are disproportionately affected. It's like people who smoke and people who die from lung cancer.

Right now a social person can theoretically (at a minimum) see 16 people over a weekend, indoors, no mask, alcohol to lower inhibitions, minimal social distancing, completely legally, for hours and hours on end.

Saturday lunch: 4 friends over
Saturday dinner: 4 friends over
Sunday lunch: 4 friends over
Sunday dinner: 4 friends over

All it takes is one of those 16 other people to be asymptomatic and they've now passed on whatever strain they have to x number of people (I can't remember what the statistics are for transmission off the top of my head, someone help me out).

Can someone explain the logic here? Maybe I'm missing something and I'd be glad to be educated on the matter and change my opinion.

Those same sixteen people could have met in the span of less than two days.

Your safety, rights and freedoms are impacted by them and there is no fix without you giving up some of those existing rights and freedoms.

This is why the strongest swimmers jump ship first.

[Dizzy28]

The only way out is mass vaccination. It is starting tomorrow. Do your part and get vaccinated.

This doesn't help

[Chimera]

I have to say trinis are idiots
I set up a intercom to talk to people outside the door so I can screen them before deciding to let them in. People coming out for real dotishness.

You wouldn't believe some of the senseless things people coming for that really not necessary for them to be outside right now.....