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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby kstt » October 28th, 2018, 10:08 am

tr1ad wrote:
kstt wrote:Who owns Innovative? 1%?

Asking



security?


Yes. Hearing about them.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby tr1ad » October 28th, 2018, 10:09 am

kstt wrote:
tr1ad wrote:
kstt wrote:Who owns Innovative? 1%?

Asking



security?


Yes. Hearing about them.



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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby brams112 » October 28th, 2018, 12:31 pm

tr1ad wrote:
kstt wrote:
tr1ad wrote:
kstt wrote:Who owns Innovative? 1%?

Asking



security?


Yes. Hearing about them.



local... for a better term (to shut down the conspiracy theorists) ... creole

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Them only managing,the main company in all kinds of business.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Joshie23 » October 29th, 2018, 10:37 pm

Numb3r4 wrote:
mitch1980 wrote:
Redman wrote:
kstt wrote:If kamla had do dis!


They were SUPPOSED to do this.
Or something to rectify or improve the situation
but they did not.....even though they had the cash flow
They didnt have the fortitude...



In full agreement here
the right decision is not always the favorite.
i have lots of family and friends being directly affected however for the greater economic good of Trinidad the PNM did what had to be done.


Agreed something had to be done...but what I question is was it done the right way?


Judging by public sentiments, some right here on 2NR, I honestly don't think the 'right way' mattered to anyone besides those being retrenched. Stuarty said so..the country will be happier without Petrotrin. National interest or something so. The shipment of refined products reach yet?

In other news, IC case starts tomorrow. Let's see what happens here, even though it's really only a $4,000 fine if the Company is found guilty, so..

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby kstt » November 2nd, 2018, 12:50 pm

O'halloran
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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby kstt » November 2nd, 2018, 1:13 pm

Imagine working 20 years temporary and geting paid for your last 5 years

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Dizzy28 » November 2nd, 2018, 1:15 pm

kstt wrote:O'halloran
Calder Hart
William Espinet


Don't leave the list incomplete
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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Redman » November 2nd, 2018, 3:46 pm

kstt wrote:Imagine working 20 years temporary and geting paid for your last 5 years


And being in a temp job for 20 years is a choice.

In life your choices have consequences.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby tr1ad » November 2nd, 2018, 3:56 pm

Redman wrote:
kstt wrote:Imagine working 20 years temporary and geting paid for your last 5 years


And being in a temp job for 20 years is a choice.

In life your choices have consequences.



exactly... if any temp worker stay that long as a temp, well if they get one week as a payout they should give thanks...

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby pugboy » November 2nd, 2018, 4:44 pm

are the pics of a wedding they had in there still on trinituner site ?
a true bling wedding, with the cars posed up and all the tanty and granny decked in hindu gold

like how ganstas pose up with their gold chains in sealots

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kstt wrote:O'halloran
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Don't leave the list incomplete
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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » November 3rd, 2018, 7:49 am

Image

http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/imb ... c-servants

I believe Petrotrin was the enabler/start.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Joshie23 » November 3rd, 2018, 5:48 pm

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Image

http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/imb ... c-servants

I believe Petrotrin was the enabler/start.


In the interest of the wider national community and given the state of the economy, this seems to be the only viable option going forward and I believe that the patriotism that was shown in the Petrotrin issue will continue to resonate with this wage freeze.

2021 for it, fellow citizens and public servants. Here's hoping inflation and cost of living doesn't change between then and now. Then again, no one is entitled to anything, salary increases included.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby gastly369 » November 3rd, 2018, 9:18 pm

Joshie23 wrote:
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Image

http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/imb ... c-servants

I believe Petrotrin was the enabler/start.


In the interest of the wider national community and given the state of the economy, this seems to be the only viable option going forward and I believe that the patriotism that was shown in the Petrotrin issue will continue to resonate with this wage freeze.

2021 for it, fellow citizens and public servants. Here's hoping inflation and cost of living doesn't change between then and now. Then again, no one is entitled to anything, salary increases included.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby nervewrecker » November 3rd, 2018, 9:25 pm

tr1ad wrote:
Redman wrote:
kstt wrote:Imagine working 20 years temporary and geting paid for your last 5 years


And being in a temp job for 20 years is a choice.

In life your choices have consequences.



exactly... if any temp worker stay that long as a temp, well if they get one week as a payout they should give thanks...
Yunno when I say that they wanna crucify me.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Pointman-IA » November 4th, 2018, 10:06 am

nervewrecker wrote:
tr1ad wrote:
Redman wrote:
kstt wrote:Imagine working 20 years temporary and geting paid for your last 5 years


And being in a temp job for 20 years is a choice.

In life your choices have consequences.



exactly... if any temp worker stay that long as a temp, well if they get one week as a payout they should give thanks...
Yunno when I say that they wanna crucify me.
I am surprised they have not as yet.

Take care you get tied upside down from the overhead crane.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby nemisis » November 4th, 2018, 12:25 pm

Men getting wage freeze and sour! Months ago we were told you getting a reduction in wages or you being sent home pick 1. "private sector' There was no discussion just a call stating that with immediate effect you will take a reduction of 16.67%.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby sMASH » November 4th, 2018, 1:18 pm

Me, I got a job cut... so be thankful for what u got.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby kstt » November 5th, 2018, 6:49 am

So the imported refined products failed our standard and quality tests.
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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Redman » November 5th, 2018, 7:06 am

We imported oil?

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby pugboy » November 5th, 2018, 7:20 am

what about the imported high octane gasoline and high quality diesel ?
are they at the pumps yet ?

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Joshie23 » November 5th, 2018, 8:02 am

sMASH wrote:Me, I got a job cut... so be thankful for what u got.


This clarifies a lot of stuff bro. I see why you're so moved, for want of a better term, by this massive retrenchment. Respect and I hope you're back out kicking arse and taking names.

kstt wrote:So the imported oil failed our standard and quality tests.

We could of refined it of we had a refinery.


Imported oil? Or refined products? Didn't Petrotrin send out a memo saying they exported their first shipment of crude and successfully imported number one of sixteen shipments of refined products from BP's LATAM arm responsible for fuels and what not? I really did hear something about the fuels failing tests or something but it was a btw kinda thing..can anyone else heard or confirm or deny same?

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby kstt » November 5th, 2018, 8:46 am

Refined products.

Correction made thx

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Joshie23 » November 5th, 2018, 9:46 am

kstt wrote:Refined products.

Correction made thx


Smooth. What's the source though? Like I said, I heard something similar but nothing concrete..

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby kstt » November 5th, 2018, 10:15 am

Company sources

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Redman » November 5th, 2018, 10:27 am

pugboy wrote:what about the imported high octane gasoline and high quality diesel ?
are they at the pumps yet ?

This is what kstt referenced.
I was told that the fuel had significant quantities of water.

What confuses me is that established procedure is that the buyer

1) Has entered into a contract to buy XYZ spec of ABC -and the contract states that it be tested free of contaminants (water is a contaminant)
2)Has the right to test while loading
3)Has the right to test before off loading

In ALL cases- the quality and quantity of fuel is verified and confirmed before custody is transferred.

Therefore if the process was followed,its impossible to receive contaminated fuel

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby hydroep » November 5th, 2018, 10:41 am

If this is true and the authorities knew it was substandard, did they have a choice? Meaning, had they decided to refuse/send it back at this the 11th hour, what would be the supply situation locally?

This is what happens when you do thing vy-ki-vy...:|

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby kstt » November 5th, 2018, 11:04 am

So if I didn't say it failed the tests nobody was going to say?

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby tr1ad » November 5th, 2018, 11:30 am

Redman wrote:
pugboy wrote:what about the imported high octane gasoline and high quality diesel ?
are they at the pumps yet ?

This is what kstt referenced.
I was told that the fuel had significant quantities of water.

What confuses me is that established procedure is that the buyer

1) Has entered into a contract to buy XYZ spec of ABC -and the contract states that it be tested free of contaminants (water is a contaminant)
2)Has the right to test while loading
3)Has the right to test before off loading

In ALL cases- the quality and quantity of fuel is verified and confirmed before custody is transferred.

Therefore if the process was followed,its impossible to receive contaminated fuel


no SGS or Calibret to inspect before loading at port of origin or transfer point?

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Joshie23 » November 5th, 2018, 1:40 pm

kstt wrote:So if I didn't say it failed the tests nobody was going to say?


Love in the house, brother. A lot of us heard about the failed tests but again, I guess people were/are waiting for some corroboration.

hydroep wrote:If this is true and the authorities knew it was substandard, did they have a choice? Meaning, had they decided to refuse/send it back at this the 11th hour, what would be the supply situation locally?

This is what happens when you do thing vy-ki-vy...:|


I don't laugh at others failures eh but this is hilarious, given their memo/announcement of their 'smooth' transition. Remember, however, Fwanklin Khan said there is a 20 day supply of fuel available after the closure of the refinery. As to when that 20 day supply will start being used given it still exists, is another story but I'm sure they'll find a way to prevent any sort of horror story because they'll have hell to pay if they forced/rushed the closure of the refinery to have no/substandard fuel for public use.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby pugboy » November 5th, 2018, 3:18 pm

I guess the next thing to say is if union jefes had good supply of water at home....

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