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De Dragon wrote:The LFD RFD PNM gone silent on this one. Yet they are the same ones who accuse you of dancing on people's graves
Redman wrote:De Dragon wrote:The LFD RFD PNM gone silent on this one. Yet they are the same ones who accuse you of dancing on people's graves
He is wrong.
I'm still figuring out how they use that epidemiologic chart to support the case.
The first case of the Brazilian variant of the COVID-19 virus was detected in a Venezuelan migrant.
Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh in the Senate today made the disclosure while responding to a question posed by Independent Senator Paul Richards.
Redman wrote:De Dragon wrote:The LFD RFD PNM gone silent on this one. Yet they are the same ones who accuse you of dancing on people's graves
He is wrong.
I'm still figuring out how they use that epidemiologic chart to support the case.
Habit7 wrote:ummm, I think he was being sarcastic.
elec2020 wrote:lol @pnmblogger. If you look back through my comments i am not that. Anyway, off course what the PM said was bad. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Given what the vigil stood for it was always going to be a touchy topic. I would not have commented on it at all. Not everytime do u need to find a scapegoat. I still believe it is the free movement of venez in and out of tnt that caused the virus to explode recently as, for the whole of 2020 we did not have these kinda numbers but when we got our first case of the Brazilian variant (known to be more contagious) the case numbers all over the place. And how on earth can the Brazilian variant reach in your country if borders are closed? Its only because the maritime border is poorly supervised. Idk why the coast guard is not being taken to task. As well as these irresponsible trinis harboring these illegals. You guys have blood on your hands. People dying due to your selfishness. Anyway, yes the PM was wrong. He should divert those energies to fixing the coast guard and punishing trinis that harbor illegal immigrants. Alas that will never happen.
elec2020 wrote:lol @pnmblogger. If you look back through my comments i am not that. Anyway, off course what the PM said was bad. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Given what the vigil stood for it was always going to be a touchy topic. I would not have commented on it at all. Not everytime do u need to find a scapegoat. I still believe it is the free movement of venez in and out of tnt that caused the virus to explode recently as, for the whole of 2020 we did not have these kinda numbers but when we got our first case of the Brazilian variant (known to be more contagious) the case numbers all over the place. And how on earth can the Brazilian variant reach in your country if borders are closed? Its only because the maritime border is poorly supervised. Idk why the coast guard is not being taken to task. As well as these irresponsible trinis harboring these illegals. You guys have blood on your hands. People dying due to your selfishness. Anyway, yes the PM was wrong. He should divert those energies to fixing the coast guard and punishing trinis that harbor illegal immigrants. Alas that will never happen.
Redman wrote:Yep the PM.
This is unnecessary noise....he could deal with his own mess.
De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:Yep the PM.
This is unnecessary noise....he could deal with his own mess.
Serious questions. Are LFD RFD PNM supporters so gullible to fall for these continual easily disproven lies from JUHN Scarfy? Are they misinformed? Have no access to the information? Don't care?
Where does Tunts7 fall into all this, because he in the trenches deep, deep defending this one, in spite of several well informed, and often neutral posters contradicting him with the facts and the timeline.
‘Covid surge started before Easter’
NO single factor is responsible for the upsurge in Covid-19 cases, but rather a number of factors have contributed to the spread.
So said epidemiologist Dr Avery Hinds yesterday in response to a question over what caused the spike, during yesterday’s virtual news conference.
Both the Opposition and Government have pointed fingers at each other with the Opposition claiming the spike was due to Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley’s invitation for the public to visit Tobago over the Easter weekend.
Rowley has since come under fire for his accusations that the spike was caused by a number of vigils held following the murder of 23-year-old Andrea Bharatt. Rowley said the vigils were “organised and paid for” by the United National Congress.
Asked whether he believed the spike was caused by either of the two factors, Hinds said while there was a surge following the Easter period, cases had already begun to increase before then.
“What we note from our statistics is that we began to see a week-on-week increase in the number of cases recorded from about the start of week 10,” he said.
Hinds noted that there had been a 37 per cent increase in cases in week 10, an 89 per cent increase in week 11 and a 64 per cent increase by week 12.
This was around the time period March 7 to March 21.
The vigils began in early February and ended on March 12.
“We began to see a steady increase from one week to the next, beginning as early as that second week in March,” Hinds said.
“And then while that increase looked like it might have been slowing a little in week 12, that 64 per cent went down to 58 per cent increase in week 13 and 35 per cent in week 14—week 14 corresponding to the 4th of April—we then began to see large increases.”
Increased movement
April 4 was the weekend of Easter, but Hinds said the increases seen then would have been due to activities that occurred before Easter.
“We saw additional increases, but the increases preceded Easter and would have been, in part, related to whatever activities were happening before that and then compounded by additional movement. So, we had a surge on top of a surge,” he stated.
“And if you have one set of increases compounded on another, in terms of movement, then you have one speed of increases compounded on another in terms of this spike, which is what we saw epidemiologically,” he added.
Hinds said the reopening of sporting activities and churches also contributed.
“We had lots of things going on. We had the reopening of sporting activities...we had people who were going to church and not well. So that the driving factors for the surge at that point in time are multi-factorial. Increased movement, increased interaction for sports, increased movement because we were free to go to church and do other things that if we were ill would spark cases,” he said.
Slower rate
Nevertheless, Hinds delivered some more positive news yesterday as he noted that while there has not been any decrease in new cases, the numbers have been increasing at a slower rate.
“We do believe that the numbers of new cases over the past few weeks have actually begun not to decrease, but not to increase as quickly,” he said.
“We are now seeing that while we do continue to accumulate increasing number of cases from one week to the next, that percentage of increase is, in fact, a little smaller and has become smaller consecutively over the last three weeks. We’re hoping that this change in percentage is representative of the braking force that we are applying via all the public health regulations and recommendations that we have implemented over the past several weeks.
“The highest numbers that we saw so far have been those around the 11th, 12th, 13th and 14th of May. And we are now beginning hopefully to see slightly smaller numbers attributed to swabbing on each day. But again, we keep an eye on the data to see whether any retrospective data changes those figures,” he said.
Redman wrote:De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:Yep the PM.
This is unnecessary noise....he could deal with his own mess.
Serious questions. Are LFD RFD PNM supporters so gullible to fall for these continual easily disproven lies from JUHN Scarfy? Are they misinformed? Have no access to the information? Don't care?
Where does Tunts7 fall into all this, because he in the trenches deep, deep defending this one, in spite of several well informed, and often neutral posters contradicting him with the facts and the timeline.
Serious Answer.
I would guess that supporters of the PNM are as gullible as you and I are, and are as gullible as the UNC till they dead.
People are people.Maybe you different?
The PM handles this poorly in response to the cacaphony of crap being thrown at him and the GORTT...and yes he is hot mouthed.
Kamla is a drunk no policy and no party.Yet I've never seen you question why she has 340K people voting for her, or denigrate them for their choice.
Elections will require us to pick one...of the chithongs that offer themselves.
They,you and I have their/our own choices to make...based on what's important to them/us
Why does what Habit thinks or feel bother you guys so much?
Just prove him wrong with real verifiable information...if he is that bad it shouldn't be hard
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Redman wrote:De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:Yep the PM.
This is unnecessary noise....he could deal with his own mess.
Serious questions. Are LFD RFD PNM supporters so gullible to fall for these continual easily disproven lies from JUHN Scarfy? Are they misinformed? Have no access to the information? Don't care?
Where does Tunts7 fall into all this, because he in the trenches deep, deep defending this one, in spite of several well informed, and often neutral posters contradicting him with the facts and the timeline.
Serious Answer.
I would guess that supporters of the PNM are as gullible as you and I are, and are as gullible as the UNC till they dead.
People are people.Maybe you different?
The PM handles this poorly in response to the cacaphony of crap being thrown at him and the GORTT...and yes he is hot mouthed.
Kamla is a drunk no policy and no party.Yet I've never seen you question why she has 340K people voting for her, or denigrate them for their choice.
Elections will require us to pick one...of the chithongs that offer themselves.
They,you and I have their/our own choices to make...based on what's important to them/us
Why does what Habit thinks or feel bother you guys so much?
Just prove him wrong with real verifiable information...if he is that bad it shouldn't be hard
.
Serious response. "cacophony of crap being thrown at him" "hot mouthed" is the most woeful sheittiest justification possible for wrongly, disgustingly and shamelessly accusing concerned citizens and worse, VICTIMS including DEAD WOMEN of resorting to using said citizens of spreading Covid.
You've started to be delusional again, I have blasted the UNC as recently as calling Kamla's sister appointment as nepotism, Moonilal for his jackarse Sinopharm statement, unlike you, who in the face of the PM's statement could only offer a tepid "he is wrong" , which by the way you've essentially walked back with this nonsensical, apologist post. Besides the UNC didn't accuse the Candlelight Movement, so to question their choice of party, when we were discussing JUHN Scarfy's shamelessness, is unnecessary.
Why Tunts7? He and YOU are the most apologistic of the whole LFD RFD PNM 2NR crew, and if you have a problem with people calling out what you acknowledged, even though it was for a millisecond, are condoning disgusting comments, well tough sheit!
I had hope for you, but true to form you reverted to LFD RFD PNM mouth breathing. Maybe you got a call from you handler? I dunno.
timelapse wrote:The voice of Habit is very representative of red party grassroots stooges.They have power in numberRedman wrote:De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:Yep the PM.
This is unnecessary noise....he could deal with his own mess.
Serious questions. Are LFD RFD PNM supporters so gullible to fall for these continual easily disproven lies from JUHN Scarfy? Are they misinformed? Have no access to the information? Don't care?
Where does Tunts7 fall into all this, because he in the trenches deep, deep defending this one, in spite of several well informed, and often neutral posters contradicting him with the facts and the timeline.
Serious Answer.
I would guess that supporters of the PNM are as gullible as you and I are, and are as gullible as the UNC till they dead.
People are people.Maybe you different?
The PM handles this poorly in response to the cacaphony of crap being thrown at him and the GORTT...and yes he is hot mouthed.
Kamla is a drunk no policy and no party.Yet I've never seen you question why she has 340K people voting for her, or denigrate them for their choice.
Elections will require us to pick one...of the chithongs that offer themselves.
They,you and I have their/our own choices to make...based on what's important to them/us
Why does what Habit thinks or feel bother you guys so much?
Just prove him wrong with real verifiable information...if he is that bad it shouldn't be hard
.
De Dragon wrote:Serious response. "cacophony of crap being thrown at him" "hot mouthed" is the most woeful sheittiest justification possible for wrongly, disgustingly and shamelessly accusing concerned citizens and worse, VICTIMS including DEAD WOMEN of resorting to using said citizens of spreading Covid.
You've started to be delusional again, I have blasted the UNC as recently as calling Kamla's sister appointment as nepotism, Moonilal for his jackarse Sinopharm statement, unlike you, who in the face of the PM's statement could only offer a tepid "he is wrong" , which by the way you've essentially walked back with this nonsensical, apologist post. Besides the UNC didn't accuse the Candlelight Movement, so to question their choice of party, when we were discussing JUHN Scarfy's shamelessness, is unnecessary.
Why Tunts7? He and YOU are the most apologistic of the whole LFD RFD PNM 2NR crew, and if you have a problem with people calling out what you acknowledged, even though it was for a millisecond, are condoning disgusting comments, well tough sheit!
I had hope for you, but true to form you reverted to LFD RFD PNM mouth breathing. Maybe you got a call from you handler? I dunno.
elec2020 wrote:so true. But there is too much money in this trade. Cheap labour, cheap ladies of the night, nice rent money, access to high color smallies, etc. So it will never happen. The trinis that support this free movement of venez responsible for the current COVID situation. Yes the government could have done better with vaccinations. Yes the government has made poor statements on the source of the outburst of these cases. Yes the government could have lockdowned better. Ok we get that the government not best. But why we making things worse. Why we adding to the problem. I am sure hundreds of thousands of people now don't know when there next paycheck is or if they will live out the year because some foolish trinis wanna make easy money of these venez. But karma is a beyotch. What goes around always comes back around.
Redman wrote:Serious response. "cacophony of crap being thrown at him" "hot mouthed" is the most woeful sheittiest justification possible for wrongly, disgustingly and shamelessly accusing concerned citizens and worse, VICTIMS including DEAD WOMEN of resorting to using said citizens of spreading Covid.
You've started to be delusional again, I have blasted the UNC as recently as calling Kamla's sister appointment as nepotism, Moonilal for his jackarse Sinopharm statement, unlike you, who in the face of the PM's statement could only offer a tepid "he is wrong" , which by the way you've essentially walked back with this nonsensical, apologist post. Besides the UNC didn't accuse the Candlelight Movement, so to question their choice of party, when we were discussing JUHN Scarfy's shamelessness, is unnecessary.
Why Tunts7? He and YOU are the most apologistic of the whole LFD RFD PNM 2NR crew, and if you have a problem with people calling out what you acknowledged, even though it was for a millisecond, are condoning disgusting comments, well tough sheit!
I had hope for you, but true to form you reverted to LFD RFD PNM mouth breathing. Maybe you got a call from you handler? I dunno.
Lol.
I'm saying stop worrying about personalities.
As usual you more interested in ranting than understanding.
You asked a general question and I gave a general answer.
Stating a fact isn't justifying it...it's just stating the fact....me stating that you're an emotional wreck isn't justifying your emotional state....it's just pointing it out.
So the PM reacted poorly.He reacted to chit thrown.He still reacted poorly and will deal with it himself.
'He is wrong'is an absolute statement...figure that out.
In your lathering up you missed the point of YOU denigrating PEOPLE for their choices...it wasn't about Moonilal etc.
You have of course went on to demonstrate your inability to accept that your POV isn't the only one.
I going to look for a firetruck to give about you and your hope.
Brb.
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Serious response. "cacophony of crap being thrown at him" "hot mouthed" is the most woeful sheittiest justification possible for wrongly, disgustingly and shamelessly accusing concerned citizens and worse, VICTIMS including DEAD WOMEN of resorting to using said citizens of spreading Covid.
You've started to be delusional again, I have blasted the UNC as recently as calling Kamla's sister appointment as nepotism, Moonilal for his jackarse Sinopharm statement, unlike you, who in the face of the PM's statement could only offer a tepid "he is wrong" , which by the way you've essentially walked back with this nonsensical, apologist post. Besides the UNC didn't accuse the Candlelight Movement, so to question their choice of party, when we were discussing JUHN Scarfy's shamelessness, is unnecessary.
Why Tunts7? He and YOU are the most apologistic of the whole LFD RFD PNM 2NR crew, and if you have a problem with people calling out what you acknowledged, even though it was for a millisecond, are condoning disgusting comments, well tough sheit!
I had hope for you, but true to form you reverted to LFD RFD PNM mouth breathing. Maybe you got a call from you handler? I dunno.
It is funny you calling somebody hot mouth.
Personally I am getting fed up of the consolation prize the Opposition keeps receiving. They bawl on an issue and demand that the govt respond to them. The govt responds and the Opposition cries stop blaming us and they play the victim.
Don't lie now, you didn't recently blast the clear nepotism of Kamla's sister, struggling to accuse Imbert nepotism, you juxtaposed it with Kamla's nepotism which has evidence. Adrian Imbert has no evidence of receipt of nepotism.
If you think Redman should behave hot mouthed like you and say more than "he is wrong" you should do the same. When Kirk Meighoo embarrassed himself and the party with the US embassy you ran out and try to deflect. So don't be a hypocrite.
The UNC in parliament said we would need to have an investigation into what caused the current surge. They alleged that it was the PM inviting ppl to Tobago a week before Easter. The PM responded that an investigation will show that it was the UNC who invited ppl to candlelight vigils to campaign off of Andrea Bharath death. Basic political tit for tat
The epidemiologist basically said that there was a rise at the end of February into March from a number of factors. Also, there was a rise after Easter from a number of factors. Both PNM and UNC were right in one sense, vigils and Easter vacay further the spread, but it was exclusive to that. But both are wrong because the vigils were not just a UNC thing as PNM claimed and Easter vacays were booked up since the beginning of March, the PM was just responding to what was already sealed and there were far more ppl moving around in Trinidad anyway.
Spare me the selective outrage over mentioning Andrea Bharath. If you asking questions, prepare for the answers. Don't tell me Andrea is sacrosanct but then say Dr Rowley is a product of rape and that we all know children of rape can't amount to anything, the UNC is yet to apologise for that. Nobody was demeaning Andrea or the ppl who marched for the cause, but unwittingly it contributed along with everything else we all did to our current situation.
elec2020 wrote:^ LOL! on this very same page I have an article where Avery Hinds said the surge started before easter though.
De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:Serious response. "cacophony of crap being thrown at him" "hot mouthed" is the most woeful sheittiest justification possible for wrongly, disgustingly and shamelessly accusing concerned citizens and worse, VICTIMS including DEAD WOMEN of resorting to using said citizens of spreading Covid.
You've started to be delusional again, I have blasted the UNC as recently as calling Kamla's sister appointment as nepotism, Moonilal for his jackarse Sinopharm statement, unlike you, who in the face of the PM's statement could only offer a tepid "he is wrong" , which by the way you've essentially walked back with this nonsensical, apologist post. Besides the UNC didn't accuse the Candlelight Movement, so to question their choice of party, when we were discussing JUHN Scarfy's shamelessness, is unnecessary.
Why Tunts7? He and YOU are the most apologistic of the whole LFD RFD PNM 2NR crew, and if you have a problem with people calling out what you acknowledged, even though it was for a millisecond, are condoning disgusting comments, well tough sheit!
I had hope for you, but true to form you reverted to LFD RFD PNM mouth breathing. Maybe you got a call from you handler? I dunno.
Lol.
I'm saying stop worrying about personalities.
As usual you more interested in ranting than understanding.
You asked a general question and I gave a general answer.
Stating a fact isn't justifying it...it's just stating the fact....me stating that you're an emotional wreck isn't justifying your emotional state....it's just pointing it out.
So the PM reacted poorly.He reacted to chit thrown.He still reacted poorly and will deal with it himself.
'He is wrong'is an absolute statement...figure that out.
In your lathering up you missed the point of YOU denigrating PEOPLE for their choices...it wasn't about Moonilal etc.
You have of course went on to demonstrate your inability to accept that your POV isn't the only one.
I going to look for a firetruck to give about you and your hope.
Brb.
Your "answer" isn't serious. Your "he is wrong" is still tepid, and in no way "absolute"
Your handler seemed to have put the fear of God, or in your case JUHN Scarfy, into you.
Technical Director of the Ministry of Health’s Epidemiology Division, Dr Avery Hinds, says one of the driving factors for the current surge in COVID cases were congregations around the time of the Easter weekend.
April 4 was the weekend of Easter, but Hinds said the increases seen then would have been due to activities that occurred before Easter.
COVID-19 cases rising, warns CMO
By Rishard Khan- March 15, 2021
RISHARD KHAN
There has been a small rise in COVID-19 cases in the country and this has prompted the Chief Medical Officer (CMO), Dr Roshan Parasram, to renew calls for citizens to remain vigilant despite the low numbers, as he blames complacency for the increased numbers.
Speaking during a Ministry of Health virtual press conference on Monday, Dr Parasram noted the increase came within the last week.
“First, we had seven (cases); then we had a spike of 10; and now we have 14 new cases over the last 24 hours,” he said.
“Prior to that, we had been hovering anywhere between a seven-day rolling average of 3 or four for upwards of over a month or more,” the CMO pointed out.
The cases, he indicated, all came from County Caroni, where there were about three major clusters.
“Those clusters would have possibly been involving two families, places of work. We really saw that from one individual being infected—that one person was able to spread it to quite a large number of people in a short space of time,” he said.
This, he said, brings the seven-day rolling average up to seven. This is why he reminded citizens to remain vigilant at all times.
“We are listed in Trinidad and Tobago as community spread. We have not changed that designation for quite a while now. When we look at the classification from WHO (the World Health Organisation) we are at a place where we can be classified as low community spread. This incident or incidents we are seeing in Caroni is reason for us to maintain our vigilance throughout the country.”
“COVID-19 is here. It is in the country. It hasn’t gone away and there has been a little complacency over the last couple of weeks because of the low numbers, in my view,” Dr Parasram said.
This cluster, he said, had the potential to cascade into a more significant outbreak, “in a very short space of time”.
Meanwhile, Minister of Health, Terrence Deyalsingh, dug his heels in to defend his policy that the country would only procure and administer vaccines approved by the WHO.
https://www.cnc3.co.tt/covid-19-cases-r ... s-cmo/?amp
Habit7 wrote:Dr Hinds and the CMO have been very consistent. You just have been uninformed.COVID-19 cases rising, warns CMO
By Rishard Khan- March 15, 2021
RISHARD KHAN
There has been a small rise in COVID-19 cases in the country and this has prompted the Chief Medical Officer (CMO), Dr Roshan Parasram, to renew calls for citizens to remain vigilant despite the low numbers, as he blames complacency for the increased numbers.
Speaking during a Ministry of Health virtual press conference on Monday, Dr Parasram noted the increase came within the last week.
“First, we had seven (cases); then we had a spike of 10; and now we have 14 new cases over the last 24 hours,” he said.
“Prior to that, we had been hovering anywhere between a seven-day rolling average of 3 or four for upwards of over a month or more,” the CMO pointed out.
The cases, he indicated, all came from County Caroni, where there were about three major clusters.
“Those clusters would have possibly been involving two families, places of work. We really saw that from one individual being infected—that one person was able to spread it to quite a large number of people in a short space of time,” he said.
This, he said, brings the seven-day rolling average up to seven. This is why he reminded citizens to remain vigilant at all times.
“We are listed in Trinidad and Tobago as community spread. We have not changed that designation for quite a while now. When we look at the classification from WHO (the World Health Organisation) we are at a place where we can be classified as low community spread. This incident or incidents we are seeing in Caroni is reason for us to maintain our vigilance throughout the country.”
“COVID-19 is here. It is in the country. It hasn’t gone away and there has been a little complacency over the last couple of weeks because of the low numbers, in my view,” Dr Parasram said.
This cluster, he said, had the potential to cascade into a more significant outbreak, “in a very short space of time”.
Meanwhile, Minister of Health, Terrence Deyalsingh, dug his heels in to defend his policy that the country would only procure and administer vaccines approved by the WHO.
https://www.cnc3.co.tt/covid-19-cases-r ... s-cmo/?amp
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