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shake d livin wake d dead wrote:hover11 wrote:I can't believe ppl actually trusted that Russian vaccineHabit7 wrote:There was a time Jamaica was at 4% and we had less than 1% vaccinated. Jamaica is at 5% for a month now and we are almost at 13%. Jamaica has essentially run out of vaccines. https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/new ... d-two-days
Guyana put their trust in Sputnik and vaccinated a very large portion of their population, But now Russia is having a spike and they can't send the 2nd doses needed by Guyana for full vaccination of many. https://dpi.gov.gy/delay-in-sputnik-v-a ... r-anthony/
This ain't no fun and games, this is T&T vs the World.
We trust sinopharm too...tek ah read
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/22/busi ... break.html
hover11 wrote:How effective do you believe sinopharm will be against Delta? Bear in mind Delta has mutated and a new strain called Delta plus is now spreadingshake d livin wake d dead wrote:hover11 wrote:I can't believe ppl actually trusted that Russian vaccineHabit7 wrote:There was a time Jamaica was at 4% and we had less than 1% vaccinated. Jamaica is at 5% for a month now and we are almost at 13%. Jamaica has essentially run out of vaccines. https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/new ... d-two-days
Guyana put their trust in Sputnik and vaccinated a very large portion of their population, But now Russia is having a spike and they can't send the 2nd doses needed by Guyana for full vaccination of many. https://dpi.gov.gy/delay-in-sputnik-v-a ... r-anthony/
This ain't no fun and games, this is T&T vs the World.
We trust sinopharm too...tek ah read
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/22/busi ... break.html
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:hover11 wrote:I can't believe ppl actually trusted that Russian vaccineHabit7 wrote:There was a time Jamaica was at 4% and we had less than 1% vaccinated. Jamaica is at 5% for a month now and we are almost at 13%. Jamaica has essentially run out of vaccines. https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/new ... d-two-days
Guyana put their trust in Sputnik and vaccinated a very large portion of their population, But now Russia is having a spike and they can't send the 2nd doses needed by Guyana for full vaccination of many. https://dpi.gov.gy/delay-in-sputnik-v-a ... r-anthony/
This ain't no fun and games, this is T&T vs the World.
We trust sinopharm too...tek ah read
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/22/busi ... break.html
hover11 wrote:How effective do you believe sinopharm will be against Delta? Bear in mind Delta has mutated and a new strain called Delta plus is now spreadingshake d livin wake d dead wrote:hover11 wrote:I can't believe ppl actually trusted that Russian vaccineHabit7 wrote:There was a time Jamaica was at 4% and we had less than 1% vaccinated. Jamaica is at 5% for a month now and we are almost at 13%. Jamaica has essentially run out of vaccines. https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/new ... d-two-days
Guyana put their trust in Sputnik and vaccinated a very large portion of their population, But now Russia is having a spike and they can't send the 2nd doses needed by Guyana for full vaccination of many. https://dpi.gov.gy/delay-in-sputnik-v-a ... r-anthony/
This ain't no fun and games, this is T&T vs the World.
We trust sinopharm too...tek ah read
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/22/busi ... break.html
is that better than immunity from getting the virus and getting over it?DMan7 wrote:Exactly! The best vaccine is the one that is available to you!
sMASH wrote:is that better than immunity from getting the virus and getting over it?DMan7 wrote:Exactly! The best vaccine is the one that is available to you!
This is not guaranteed and that is why the World Health Organization is nervous about countries using immunity passports as a way out of lockdown.
The idea is if you pass the antibody test then you are safe to go back to work. This would be particularly valuable for staff in care homes or hospitals who come into contact with those at risk of developing severe symptoms.
But while you will find some antibodies in nearly every patient, not all are equal. Neutralising antibodies are the ones that stick to the coronavirus and are able to stop it infecting other cells. A study of 175 recovered patients in China showed 30% had very low levels of these neutralising antibodies.
That is why the World Health Organization says "that cellular immunity [the other part of the adaptive response] may also be critical for recovery".
Another issue is that just because you might be protected by your antibodies, it doesn't mean you cannot still harbour the virus and pass it onto others.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52446965
Habit7 wrote:Honestly I know that Sinopharm is not the best. But if they are not selling the better vaccines to us, are we suppose to die until they have pity on us and sell it?
sMASH wrote:is that better than immunity from getting the virus and getting over it?DMan7 wrote:Exactly! The best vaccine is the one that is available to you!
paid_influencer wrote:Habit7 wrote:Honestly I know that Sinopharm is not the best. But if they are not selling the better vaccines to us, are we suppose to die until they have pity on us and sell it?
there's a strong possibility those vaccines could backfire if the lesser efficacy isn't publicized. Places like Chile or that island chain in the pacific are getting ridiculous COVID spikes because the population wasn't aware those particular vaccines aren't all that protective and they still need to follow the non-medical interventions (masks, social distancing) in their day to day life.
I legit believe we could get a massive spike if they choose to re-open schools in September or try to hold the MOAC (mother of all Carnivals) on the back of Sinopharm. It's a good product but the public communication from the government needs to acknowledge the lesser effectiveness.
Dizzy28 wrote:hover11 wrote:How effective do you believe sinopharm will be against Delta? Bear in mind Delta has mutated and a new strain called Delta plus is now spreadingshake d livin wake d dead wrote:hover11 wrote:I can't believe ppl actually trusted that Russian vaccineHabit7 wrote:There was a time Jamaica was at 4% and we had less than 1% vaccinated. Jamaica is at 5% for a month now and we are almost at 13%. Jamaica has essentially run out of vaccines. https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/new ... d-two-days
Guyana put their trust in Sputnik and vaccinated a very large portion of their population, But now Russia is having a spike and they can't send the 2nd doses needed by Guyana for full vaccination of many. https://dpi.gov.gy/delay-in-sputnik-v-a ... r-anthony/
This ain't no fun and games, this is T&T vs the World.
We trust sinopharm too...tek ah read
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/22/busi ... break.html
Delta Plus??
A bigger virus with wireless charging capabilities!!
Dohplaydat wrote:Carnival is actually pretty safe, schools and offices reopening are not.
paid_influencer wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:Carnival is actually pretty safe, schools and offices reopening are not.
Carnival has a pregnancy spike associated with it. The majority of Carnival happens in private residences.
Deadric wrote:Guess the J&J vaccines (if we actually get them) might end up being the backup to the Sinopharm...
sMASH wrote:is that better than immunity from getting the virus and getting over it?DMan7 wrote:Exactly! The best vaccine is the one that is available to you!
u can get covid with the vaccine too,Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:sMASH wrote:is that better than immunity from getting the virus and getting over it?DMan7 wrote:Exactly! The best vaccine is the one that is available to you!
You can get reinfected if you had Covid before.
The immune response to the vaccine is much better
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... d-covid-19
Also we have no idea what the long term effects of Covid are. People who got chickenpox from the varicella zoster virus develop shingles later on in life. It’s very painful.
It’s not a good idea to try to get the virus in an attempt to build an immunity to it.
Dohplaydat wrote:Deadric wrote:Guess the J&J vaccines (if we actually get them) might end up being the backup to the Sinopharm...
Definitely, I was even suggesting we give Astrazeneca to all persons over 60 and use the Sinopharm for those below 60. Instead we went the other way which leads to more Astrazeneca VITT and lower vaccine efficacy older folks.
Sigh, common sense not too common I guess
Just like the flu vaccine I don’t want it, I trust my immune system and my body to do what it needs to doDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:sMASH wrote:is that better than immunity from getting the virus and getting over it?DMan7 wrote:Exactly! The best vaccine is the one that is available to you!
You can get reinfected if you had Covid before.
The immune response to the vaccine is much better
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... d-covid-19
Also we have no idea what the long term effects of Covid are. People who got chickenpox from the varicella zoster virus develop shingles later on in life. It’s very painful.
It’s not a good idea to try to get the virus in an attempt to build an immunity to it.
Habit7 wrote:Well if Sinopharm backfires we will deal with it then, but is the best thing we do right now.
The AG said the next Carnival will be the mother of all carnivals, he didn't say Carnival 2022. Although, we know he would like that to be so.
And our low birth rate is another crisis that nobody speaks about. Ideally, children fair best in a planned, married home but we need to increase our birth rate. The Venes buying us some more time, but during covid our birth rate dipped too low.
hover11 wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:Deadric wrote:Guess the J&J vaccines (if we actually get them) might end up being the backup to the Sinopharm...
Definitely, I was even suggesting we give Astrazeneca to all persons over 60 and use the Sinopharm for those below 60. Instead we went the other way which leads to more Astrazeneca VITT and lower vaccine efficacy older folks.
Sigh, common sense not too common I guessJust like the flu vaccine I don’t want it, I trust my immune system and my body to do what it needs to doDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:sMASH wrote:is that better than immunity from getting the virus and getting over it?DMan7 wrote:Exactly! The best vaccine is the one that is available to you!
You can get reinfected if you had Covid before.
The immune response to the vaccine is much better
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... d-covid-19
Also we have no idea what the long term effects of Covid are. People who got chickenpox from the varicella zoster virus develop shingles later on in life. It’s very painful.
It’s not a good idea to try to get the virus in an attempt to build an immunity to it.
sMASH wrote:^^ also the 400 yearly from the flu, that we have no problem with.
sMASH wrote:^^ also the 400 yearly from the flu, that we have no problem with.
Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:^^ also the 400 yearly from the flu, that we have no problem with.
Sorry to blunt your misinformation but 37 died from the flu in 2019
https://tt.loopnews.com/content/flu-deaths-37
Carry on.
Habit7 wrote:Well if Sinopharm backfires we will deal with it then, but is the best thing we do right now.
The AG said the next Carnival will be the mother of all carnivals, he didn't say Carnival 2022. Although, we know he would like that to be so.
And our low birth rate is another crisis that nobody speaks about. Ideally, children fair best in a planned, married home but we need to increase our birth rate. The Venes buying us some more time, but during covid our birth rate dipped too low.
Wraith King wrote:Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:^^ also the 400 yearly from the flu, that we have no problem with.
Sorry to blunt your misinformation but 37 died from the flu in 2019
https://tt.loopnews.com/content/flu-deaths-37
Carry on.
Did influenza disappear?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/more-are-dying-from-flu-than-coronavirus/article_7565ba3a-5256-11ea-83f4-3b6f1c7621f6.amp.html
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